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- MysteryManIntl, on 06/27/2008, -4/+111This is VERY important!
- Surferess, on 06/27/2008, -4/+110This is important!
- angusm, on 06/28/2008, -5/+101Nothing to see here, folks. Just keep shopping. You can trust us, we're the government. We only spy on the bad guys. If you're not guilty, you have nothing to fear. This is necessary for your protection. Just keep shopping. Trust us, we're the government. If you're not guilty, you have nothing to fear ...
- cheezintern, on 06/27/2008, -4/+95Sure is important, we are slowly watching our civil rights go right down the drain (with the help of our elected officials). Retroactive immunity for the telecoms is just disgraceful. George Washington would ***** himself many times over if he were alive to see this happening.
- allowners, on 06/28/2008, -2/+59It's been a done deal for years now, all that remains is to formalize it. Most Democrats are as guilty as the Republican swine.
- inactive, on 06/28/2008, -7/+62FTA:
The Democratic leadership is touting the deal as a "compromise," but in fact they have endorsed the infamous Nuremberg defense: "Just following orders."
It's not bad enough we have to fight Bush, now Congress has declared War on the American People. And Obama is one of the signers of this Declaration of War. It's time for a New American Revolution!
http://futurenewstoday.blogspot.com/2008/06/congre ... - dupswapdrop, on 06/28/2008, -1/+54Maybe we should start spying on the government more.
- kuantan97, on 06/28/2008, -0/+46Another problem to monitor on the spying front is Eric Prince, founder of Blackwater, opening up his own private spy agency--The Prince Group--to parallel his paramilitary force:
http://articles.latimes.com/2007/nov/03/nation/na- ... - uptown, on 06/28/2008, -0/+43How often does government get rid of laws? I mean seriously ... does this happen?
I get that there's a need to make new laws to address new concerns as civilization evolves, but you never really hear about them getting rid of old laws that don't make sense anymore. The end result seems to be a land where everything has a rule/law/tax/bill/policy/penalty/fee/instruction wrapped around it and life just becomes a daily quest to live your life while not breaking one of these laws (either accidentally or intentionally). The reason I see this becoming a huge concern is that it's becoming increasingly easy to detect and report these violations. Once constant monitoring of phone and internet communication is admitted (I say admitted because I'm convinced it's being done today) and allowed to be used as evidence against US citizens, there's nothing to stop the government from either issuing a penalty for each offense they detect, or using that threat as leverage against that person. It's already happening with speeding-ticket cameras, and RIAA settlement offers. A violation is detected, and the bill (or settlement offer in the RIAA's case) just shows up in the mail ... whether it was actually you that committed the "crime" or not. Direct monitoring of voice and data communications will be even more connectible to an individual. And why wouldn't they? It'd mean more money for the government and it'd be pitched as the best way to protect the people.
The experiment of Democracy can only be effective when elected officials make decisions factoring in the past, the present and the future well-being of their country and its citizens when making decisions. But too many politicians have fallen for what will make them look good now, or what will win them points with their colleagues today so that they can receive their support to pass their own pet project in the future. Instead of being effective representatives for the people able to govern with the citizens and the country in mind, most politicians now govern worrying more about fund-raising, re-election, and not standing out from the crowd so they they could be picked off by a challenger.
The nation is suffering from not enough critical thinking ... and the widespread tendency to do whatever is easiest. What is the likelihood that every evening newscast would be covering a story using the same phrases and talking points? What are the chances that every Senator or Representative would actually have the same beliefs about a policy supported by their party? Yet day after day, this is what we see. There's a lack of originality ... a drought of political courage, and an enormous potential to thrust this great nation towards a place where its citizens spend more of their time working to pay higher taxes and penalties just to fund a government that is spending most of their time putting new laws on the books in order to appease a politically active corporation or generate more revenue for the government in a vicious circle. - lundeja, on 06/28/2008, -4/+41Better start purchasing some Guy Fawkes masks...
- crapmatic, on 06/28/2008, -0/+37U.S Spy Bill Creates the 'Infrastructure for a Police State' - 384 diggs
Barack Obama Reveals His iPod Playlist - 687 diggs
Sigh. - mcsenget, on 06/28/2008, -4/+40When will the rest of the country start to regret that Ron Paul did not get the nomination?
- sk11, on 06/28/2008, -4/+34George Washington would be sent to gitmo the moment he'd start talking about overthrowing the corrupt and immoral modern American government. He'll sit in a cold, dark cell awaiting torture thinking: "my god, we have become Britain, in the days of her empire." But a few hours of re-education later they'll have him chiming "hail to King George."
You know what they say: we eventually become our parents. - icantdenythis, on 06/28/2008, -0/+28I feel like everyday this country sends a big "***** you" to our founding fathers and everything they stood for.
- russverney, on 06/28/2008, -6/+30Presidential candidate Bob Barr rips FISA and its supporters:
see the video on Bob Barr's You Tube page - Khast, on 06/28/2008, -0/+23It isn't just the USA which is going Police State. We are just following the lead. If you remember your biblical prophecies. It shall be a one world government. (Okay, I am not Christian, but folks, we are definitely headed in that direction...)
C'mon people, it isn't like it is the end of the world, it is worse... - AgentMull, on 06/28/2008, -0/+22But hey, the Supreme Court will strike it down as unconstitutional, right? Right....?
- btschul, on 06/28/2008, -7/+29Ron Paul was our last chance. You really think Obama will save us from this? Our fate was cemented when Ron Paul dropped out of the running. Enjoy the Totalitarianism!
- lazerus9, on 06/28/2008, -0/+21What then is freedom? The power to live as one wishes.
Marcus Tullius Cicero - NightRiderkami, on 06/28/2008, -1/+21Goodbye America, it was great while it lasted ;(
- ninjadeathcult, on 06/28/2008, -0/+19another week goes by another attack on the united states constitution and the civil liberties of its citizens, your governemnt will keep at it bit by bit until you guys wake up in a fema camp in a police state wondering how the ***** it happened
- londubh, on 06/28/2008, -1/+20Uhm, we already had the infrastructure for a police state. In fact we had it before the Bush-Cheney cabal came into power. It has only been during their tenure have they begun expanding it and using it. If current airline travel isn't a police state I don't know what is. This bill will probably only entrench that police state even deeper.
- NSResponder, on 06/28/2008, -0/+18Maybe.
This court is a mixed bag. They did just admit that the second amendment means what it says, but the same court also allowed private property to be stolen and sold just because the buyer would pay more taxes on it.
-jcr - sockpuppets, on 06/28/2008, -3/+21˙ǝdʎʇ ı ƃuıɥʇʎɹǝʌǝ ʇdʎɹɔuǝ ı ʎɥʍ sı sıɥʇ
- girwen, on 06/28/2008, -2/+20The flippin president threw the constitution into the Chesapeake there ain't nothing to stand in anyones way. "Brave New World"-A Huxley, "A Cool Million" -N West "It Can't Happen Here"-S Lewis "1984" -G Orwell
- inactive, on 06/28/2008, -4/+21Take advantage of our societal situation. Buy guns, lots of them, and plenty of ammo. Learn about guerilla warfare. We are in an energy crisis, and the machine is going to do whatever it takes to survive whether or not you're a part of it. When the ***** hits the fan, would you rather die in a camp starving to death or go out in a hail of bullets taking out a bunch of people?
- obliviousfool, on 06/28/2008, -2/+171) That's the problem. Maybe you didn't follow this in court. The court needed evidence that a specific individuals rights were violated, and the ACLU couldn't produce it because all of this is done at the top levels of secrecy. Until it becomes blatant enough to stir the court's attention, they're going to leave the program be. No one is going to find out what is actually happening behind this veil of secrecy. We'll never know whether rights were violated or not. That's your tax dollars at work!
- krnldmp, on 06/28/2008, -0/+15One of the bigger reasons why this country is in such a sorry state is many of the most proud don't even realize they Have no reason unless they're strongly supporting or taking action in a manner similar to US citizens and employees like Mark Klein. Pledging the flag and bending over to receive your check ain't where its at.
- X86BSD, on 06/28/2008, -0/+15Slowly?? Where have you been the last 8 years. Slow is not quite how I would describe our loss of rights.
Perhaps, shoved in the ass without lube, wrapped in sandpaper in 3 seconds, is a more apt description of how fast and painful our loss of rights has been. And almost as sad as the fact that not a single one of these traitors has been hung (or shot) yet. - zigzagzz, on 06/28/2008, -2/+15Sheeople will NOT pay attention to this!THIS IS SO HUGE, 80% of Americans are just plain STUPID! My RIGHTS that many DIED for. I'm supposed to be a good model "PATRIOT" and just let our Gov't TAKE THEM. I have a BIG F. U. for our Gov't.
- Professr, on 06/28/2008, -0/+12Ha, that's nothing! I use rot-26! You can't even read this message, it's so encrypted!
- marabout40, on 06/28/2008, -2/+14Hey spaz, did you read frankhope's post right above your head? Or are you too spazzed out to notice?
Oh and btw, do you understand the meaning of the word "spy?" I think the whole idea is that you don't know you're being watched/monitored/observed etc. - bjflanagan, on 06/28/2008, -0/+12I think it's time we all got heroically free with our speech.
- godslayer, on 06/28/2008, -1/+12What? the land of the free?
Whoever told you that is your enemy?
Yes I know my enemies
They're the teachers who taught me to fight me
Compromise, conformity, assimilation, submission
Ignorance, hypocrisy, brutality, the elite
All of which are American dreams
-Rage Against the Machine - santaliqueur, on 06/28/2008, -1/+12Yeah, THAT'S what we need to do.
- inactive, on 06/28/2008, -1/+12These work better: http://www.securityprousa.com/tabaleiiima.html
Make sure to get a level IIIA. Pick up a helmet while you're at it and get the mask specifically suited for use with helmets. - Liqkhaos, on 06/28/2008, -0/+11I feel that we're beyond the event horizon in this country. We're being sucked into a totalitarian black hole and I just hope that we can come out on the other side someday to restore this country to her former glory.
- notoneofus, on 06/28/2008, -0/+11Retroactive immunity is especially screwed-up considering the ultimate reason: if telecoms think they will face charges, they won't cooperate with the government. Well, duh. They should have that fear, and they shouldn't cooperate on something they know to be unconstitutional.
- Tyrghast, on 06/28/2008, -0/+10*straps in and waits for the announcement of the new Thought Police department*
- jbird32275, on 06/28/2008, -0/+10He's still getting my vote.
- notruth, on 06/28/2008, -0/+10You have a RIGHT to privacy. You seriously don't care if that right is violated by an unrestricted body of officials who were elected and sworn in to UPHOLD The Constitution so many of our ancestors honorably died protecting? Your country is being run by men and women who lie to The People they swore to defend, cheat in order to gain political leverage, and steal from the population by joining the side of the fence that pays the best and signing bills that move money up the pyramid to the people who already have more than they know what to do with, and keeps money from trickling down to the people who really need it.
- zigzagzz, on 06/28/2008, -0/+9They get rid of laws that protect us and create laws that serve them!
- inactive, on 06/28/2008, -0/+9...after Obama has made excuses for why the huge bases in Iraq (along with lots of people) need to stay?
...after McCain steps down due to cancer reoccurrence and his VP (??? Jeb Bush / Leiberman???) steps in?
... after they each know at least 3 families living out of their cars?? - stonewaljacksn, on 06/28/2008, -0/+9Obama scares me more than McCain with this stuff. Digg me down or tell me I'm wrong if you can prove it, but if any of this conspiracy type stuff is true, it sure as hell seems to me like Obama is being propped up by Bilderberg type globalists much more than McCain...I'm not sure why, but i really just have a bad feeling about him regardless of how "fresh" and "inspiring" he comes off as.
You ever think that if there really WAS some kind of conspiracy being run by some of the most powerful people in the world, they would use their power to put THEIR candidate up against a dud(mccain im looking in your direction)? Has it not struck anyone that basically ALL mass movements that gradually strip away personal liberties begin with the notion of a "National Rebirth" and emphatic cries for "Change"?
I am writing in Ron Paul because tinfoil hat conspiracy or not, he is STILL the only candidate who has proven he answers to nobody but the Constitution, and that's the way it was meant to be. We have better weapons and toys now, but we are really NOT light years away from 230 years ago...the founding fathers were not stupid and they were not just shooting from the hip when writing the Constitution. It was all based on learning from the mistakes of history that had kept repeating themselves up until them. The Constitution is the REAL King, or if you prefer, the God of the secular American Government...that is the most brilliant part of the whole setup. It is a tight, but "wide open" framework for the government which allows the greatest amount of freedom for each person's individual development of any framework before or since. I'm not saying there weren't kinks or whatever (slavery?) but for the most part the thing is ***** brilliant and the most profound testament to Reason and Rationality that I've ever seen.
So, I'm voting for the one man who is going to leave his God at home and bring the Constitution back to the Oval Office.
sorry for the not-so-necessary rant... - silicongat, on 06/28/2008, -2/+10Politician scum! Anarchy today!
- roho76, on 06/28/2008, -0/+8Hey DC use your new rights.
- PopcornDave, on 06/28/2008, -0/+8I'd rather go out defending the ideals that the United States was founded on rather than taking out a bunch of people.
- Veni_Vidi_Vici, on 06/28/2008, -0/+8I don't know about Washington, but Jefferson sure would be.
- twiztidsinz, on 06/28/2008, -0/+8Hey! They're even on sale!!
- webcrumb, on 06/28/2008, -0/+8I wonder if we're at the end of a Golden Age, a Renaissance period, teetering on the edge of a new Dark Age of religious and governmental persecution complete with a new round of Inquisitions. I hope not. I sincerely do.
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