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U.S. Government Subpoenaed Amazon.com for purchasing records
guerrillanews.com — Newly unsealed court records have revealed that the U.S. government issued a subpoena to Amazon.com seeking to obtain the identities of customers purchasing books through the Amazon marketplace.
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- orlando37, on 12/10/2007, -6/+58Big Brother is ALWAYS watching
- noahhoward, on 12/10/2007, -18/+4You know what? Big Brother can get away with it until you all learn to read to. Try reading the article, this has nothing to do with 'big brother'.
- scbysnx, on 12/10/2007, -2/+7you're absolutely right. it has nothing to do with the fictional entity 'big brother' it has to do with a real life implementation of its values!
- theMaxx, on 12/10/2007, -2/+5Big Brother wasn't always watching...
But now he is, get used to it; or do something about it. Election are coming by aren't they?
Skip spam blog: http://www.newstarget.com/022342.html- xBDVx, on 12/10/2007, -10/+6oh boy, a link to worthless Ron Paul spam.
FTL (from that link): "If Ron Paul is not elected President in 2008, the United States of America will self destruct by 2025..."
Riiiiiiight.- diversionmary, on 12/10/2007, -2/+5Ron Paul is a TT (time traveler).
- xBDVx, on 12/10/2007, -10/+6oh boy, a link to worthless Ron Paul spam.
- cheese06, on 12/10/2007, -1/+5its a popular phrase to say "the government is watching," but what about corporate America? Google and various other telecommunication companies know so much about YOU that they outsource their intelligence to governments domestic and abroad a la Yahoo. You check your Gmail account and the ads frighteningly look up key words in your personal emails and make relevant ads. I'd be more afraid of corporate America than the government itself.
- theMaxx, on 12/10/2007, -0/+13What you are describing IS scary, but a government doing it is EVEN more scary.
They're the ones making laws aren't they? - jonnyeh, on 12/10/2007, -0/+12Google can't throw you in jail, the government can.
- theMaxx, on 12/10/2007, -1/+5Agreed! But, they might one day "lobby" you in jail...
- spucky, on 12/10/2007, -0/+6I was with you until your last sentence. I won't digg you down, but the government is supposed to be by us and for us. It is our equalizer against the big corporations. When the government turns against us, we have no recourse left.
- colto, on 12/10/2007, -0/+4That's supposed to be when we grab our guns and revolt but I doubt we will see that happen anytime soon. America is just too damn apathetic to everything.
- OwdenBowden, on 12/10/2007, -0/+1And that is another reason why (even if you hate them) EVERYONE needs to Support your 2nd Amendment rights - which is on the chopping block as we type.
- spucky, on 12/13/2007, -0/+1I am a huge Kucinich supporter, but I do not hate guns, nor do I want the 2nd amendment repealed. I own guns and Kucinich will never take them away from me. Nor does he want to.
- kuzotz, on 12/10/2007, -0/+5Corporate America is in collaboration with the GOV'T..
- theMaxx, on 12/10/2007, -0/+13What you are describing IS scary, but a government doing it is EVEN more scary.
- Gozchev, on 12/10/2007, -0/+7If good judges do not continue to block this sort of *****, we are *****. 2008 might be the new 1984 (orwell)
- rnwen2750, on 12/10/2007, -2/+1I think most people got the reference without the help at the end of the sentence.
- Frnnkdlxx, on 12/10/2007, -0/+12I hope the government sees that the people don't like that they're watching and are increasingly on edge as well. I'm sure if you did a broader census of America you'd find more people apt to violently defend themselves against police officers and other officials because of the fear of being unjustly abused themselves. i'd like to come on here with a big mouth, yelling obcenities and other threats, but in reality, none of us want real confrontation in our lives, but we also don't want to be sheep, seeing our neighbors and family being raped by the 'authorities' they pay for.
I think that it's time people stood up together, peacefully and said ENOUGH. This new technocracy of control just ISN'T working. Scale back and start from a more responsible and accountable point. Because with the average policeman IQ of under 100 and with an even more ignorant population, monstrous government tyranny is inescapable. Where are the Martin Luther Kings... in fact. Where are the Founding Father legacies? Where are those who speak out for us? If in this great time of crisis we only have one, because we all fear assassination by this very government, then what worth are our lives? Freedom is free. Only when it is tested does it become clear how poignant a statement that is. Stand up for yourselves people. Because if you don't stand up today, you'll be on your knees tommorrow and your back the next day. We know how bad slaves are treated, and I remember my heritage. I'd rather die free standing on my feet than life a slave on my knees.
But first, before boldness comes the need to grasp all the forces and repercussions ahead of you. Think wisely, get active, get creative. This is our government and we can hold them accountable with the new media as our weapon. - diggingaround, on 12/10/2007, -0/+4Can we get some ***** names!?
Who are these people behind the "U.S. Government" title in this news story?- dgendreau, on 01/04/2008, -0/+1That information is classified.
- tsos2, on 12/10/2007, -1/+3Soon it will be "Government Issues Subpoena to DIGG.COM" They are watching....
- dgendreau, on 12/10/2007, -0/+2No, it will soon be:
Government has been monitoring DIGG.COM and several other social networking sites for the last year under a gag order. The headline will read: Several thousand unpatriotic individuals were arrested in midnight raids on terrorism charges today. The specifics of the charges are protected by the USA#1 SAFE PATRIOTIC LOVE MY COUNTRY!!ONEONEONE Act of 2008. They will all happen to be left wing diggers, but you wont hear about that part in the news. In other news, we have always been at war with terrorism. And now for your minute of hate...
- dgendreau, on 12/10/2007, -0/+2No, it will soon be:
- noahhoward, on 12/10/2007, -18/+4You know what? Big Brother can get away with it until you all learn to read to. Try reading the article, this has nothing to do with 'big brother'.
- savetheusa1, on 12/10/2007, -1/+77I wonder if our government has ever heard of the 4th Amendment
- accountstube, on 12/10/2007, -0/+174th amendment? now does that relate in ANY way to the constitution? you know, that pesky scrap of paper that set the ground rules for what this country was founded on? cause... cause we don't use no constitution here.
just whatever the power hungery bushmachine deems necessary to ensure the "safety" of this country.- humpy, on 12/10/2007, -6/+4huh huh, you said bushmachine.
- Thedarklord187, on 12/10/2007, -1/+12The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
- noahhoward, on 12/10/2007, -3/+7Hey what do you know, that's exactly what they ended up doing.
- delafere, on 12/10/2007, -1/+2Is it what the government intended? With the other datamining going on, one is tempted to ask.
- delafere, on 12/10/2007, -0/+1Ah. The serialized presentation of the story had me scanning. I see what you mean now. Nevermind.
- noahhoward, on 12/10/2007, -1/+1Yeah, it is, they requested the information from all of this guys customers so they could get interviews and strengthen their case against him. They got the same information but they got it through volunteers so that it didn't harm Amazon.
- noahhoward, on 12/10/2007, -3/+7Hey what do you know, that's exactly what they ended up doing.
- brad3378, on 12/10/2007, -0/+1Yeah - They've heard of it. And they probably watched you type it too.
- accountstube, on 12/10/2007, -0/+174th amendment? now does that relate in ANY way to the constitution? you know, that pesky scrap of paper that set the ground rules for what this country was founded on? cause... cause we don't use no constitution here.
- MunkeeBoy, on 12/10/2007, -6/+28The data mining doesn't just effect U.S. Citizens either, it effects all users of Amazon.com, the U.S. govt has already got my number from numerous sites but I'll be adding Amazon to my growing list of no-go sites anyway.
- bjornski, on 12/10/2007, -7/+2With their GOP contributions, I've been boycotting them since they started.
It's why I don't eat Dominos, either. And McDonalds? That's just because their food isn't worthy of feeding to pets. - noahhoward, on 12/10/2007, -1/+7Go ahead and admit you didn't read the article. They weren't data-mining, they were trying to collect information for a court case. They ended up reaching a compromise and only got to contact people who volunteered.
- MunkeeBoy, on 12/10/2007, -1/+1they were trying to collect information for a court case how?
- noahhoward, on 12/10/2007, -0/+1By requesting the information in a legal manner.
- MunkeeBoy, on 12/10/2007, -1/+1they were trying to collect information for a court case how?
- inf0, on 12/10/2007, -0/+2AFFECT
- bjornski, on 12/10/2007, -7/+2With their GOP contributions, I've been boycotting them since they started.
- wonderchemist, on 12/10/2007, -2/+117Oh great, now they know I buy fresh whole rabbit and uranium ore.
- thebellmaster1x, on 12/10/2007, -3/+35But certainly not anal douches?
- thesonofdarwin, on 12/10/2007, -1/+14I tried to find one; they have sizes XS, S, M, L, and XL, but not government :/ If only someone would make a government-sized anal douche they'd be billionaires.
- ordig, on 12/10/2007, -3/+3Yeah they would get DoD contracts to deploy them in Iraq. Oh wait I think blackwater already did that.
- bjornski, on 12/10/2007, -1/+2They're called enemas, and I'm sure if you ask Larry Craig, or Reverend Haggard, they could show you not only where to get them, but probably give you a personal demonstration.
- KamikazeeDriver, on 12/10/2007, -0/+1Customers who bought fresh whole rabbits also purchased Anal Douches and Thongs
(really, search fresh whole rabbits on amazon)
- thesonofdarwin, on 12/10/2007, -1/+14I tried to find one; they have sizes XS, S, M, L, and XL, but not government :/ If only someone would make a government-sized anal douche they'd be billionaires.
- l33tspam, on 12/10/2007, -13/+1I see what you did there.
- mrsteveman1, on 12/10/2007, -0/+2Apparently not
- sgtpppr, on 12/10/2007, -1/+2They're gonna know I bought a badonkadonk tank now!
- thebellmaster1x, on 12/10/2007, -3/+35But certainly not anal douches?
- JordanTW90, on 12/10/2007, -4/+37Dont buy a Quran.
- williamdyer, on 12/10/2007, -0/+3No, DO buy a Quran, and have it shipped to a middle manager in Homeland Security, and then dime out that middle manager to the FBI. ***** with them. It's the New Entertainment.
- dictum, on 12/10/2007, -2/+1Your mom's the new entertainment.
- williamdyer, on 12/10/2007, -0/+3No, DO buy a Quran, and have it shipped to a middle manager in Homeland Security, and then dime out that middle manager to the FBI. ***** with them. It's the New Entertainment.
- zachshmack, on 12/10/2007, -6/+87*cancels his order for Dummy's Guide to Islamofacism, Volume 1: How to Blow ***** Up*
- phickler, on 12/10/2007, -1/+17http://www.newstarget.com/022342.html
original article without blogspam - philman467, on 12/10/2007, -9/+2Don't fret fellow diggers - but you might want to return all those copies of the Anarchist Cookbook
- jaymzdean, on 12/10/2007, -6/+44You ain't seen nothin' yet. Within your lifetime, you are going to witness your government do things you NEVER allowed yourself to imagine.
- noahhoward, on 12/10/2007, -14/+6Sure we are.
- ufia, on 12/10/2007, -9/+10Are you from the future, or just talking out of your bum hole?
- TheSabre, on 12/10/2007, -8/+2I'm going to say the latter...
- kuzotz, on 12/10/2007, -0/+4I'm emigrating anyway.. I'll be in Switzerland when ***** hits the fan in America. I will be there saying I told yall so.
- TheSabre, on 12/10/2007, -0/+1Congratulations.
- kuzotz, on 12/10/2007, -0/+4I'm emigrating anyway.. I'll be in Switzerland when ***** hits the fan in America. I will be there saying I told yall so.
- TheSabre, on 12/10/2007, -8/+2I'm going to say the latter...
- chan0429, on 12/10/2007, -2/+53Not to be a hater... but old news. Lucky for us Amazon went to court and won. Go Steve!
- bluesnowmonkey, on 12/10/2007, -2/+9I can't believe Amazon had to fight something like this. I can't believe the first judge to see it didn't throw it out. I can't believe someone had the gall to ask for such a subpoena.
- galahan, on 12/10/2007, -0/+10Do you mean "Go Jeff!"?
- chan0429, on 12/10/2007, -0/+1Yes, Go Jeff!
I'm just too used to giving props to Jobs. Sorry.
- chan0429, on 12/10/2007, -0/+1Yes, Go Jeff!
- sieteRevueltas, on 12/10/2007, -2/+0*Phew* thanks for the update. There's me thinking Republican Fascism knows now boundaries
- Nougat, on 12/10/2007, -1/+2Never mind.
- ieataquacrayons, on 12/10/2007, -2/+8They should redo the apple 1984 commercial. In 2008 the US Gov't will take away more of your rights and you will see why 2008 will seem more like 1984.
- aspec, on 12/10/2007, -0/+3They did redo that apple commercial. Where have you been?
- dial0g, on 12/10/2007, -6/+48This article is misleading and should be buried as inaccurate.
Amazon fought this request and won.
See http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20071128-fede ... for the details.- noahhoward, on 12/10/2007, -1/+23Still, the fact that they asked at all and some court issued the subpoena is pretty important.
- noahhoward, on 12/10/2007, -2/+3Never-mind, after reading the article I see that they had a legitimate reason and the claims of big brother watching are simply *****. The compromise should have been the way they went about it in the first place.
- xBDVx, on 12/10/2007, -1/+2Go Amazon! They actually have the guts to stand up to the Feds, unlike some people
*cough* AT&T *cough*- Genma, on 12/10/2007, -1/+2well the difference being that at&t is in the govt's pocket, ie. you bend over and do what we want so we can let you keep raping the public, where amazon has no such obligations.
- jaxcs, on 12/10/2007, -1/+1what part of US gov subpoenaed Amazon.com for purchasing records is inaccurate? A subpoena is a legal action and they did in fact do this. They were taken to court and they lost but they certainly tried.
- sorrow, on 12/10/2007, -0/+1The implication title is inaccurate: everything about it implies that Amazon happily handed over all the records that were asked for, when in truth the only records handed over were from people who willingly *volunteered* to provide the information.
- P5ycHo, on 12/10/2007, -0/+1Thank the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
- noahhoward, on 12/10/2007, -1/+23Still, the fact that they asked at all and some court issued the subpoena is pretty important.
- kushed, on 12/10/2007, -9/+3I hope Amazon fights this, if they just hand it over without a fight, I will never order anything from them. Matter of fact, I am buying everything with cash from now on (whenever possible).
- noahhoward, on 12/10/2007, -1/+7Read the article.
- AzureRise, on 12/10/2007, -3/+1Fascism FTL!
- EdgarVerona, on 12/10/2007, -1/+2Maybe they can find out who was buying those fresh rabbits.
- f4nt0m4s, on 12/10/2007, -6/+4The government listens to people's phone calls without their consent. I'm sure they track your store purchases via credit card. This is mildly disturbing but probably nothing out of the ordinary for our government. This becomes a problem when the government decides it is going to arrest people using Amazon purchases as probable cause. There is so much gray area regarding this topic that it is hard to have a clear debate. I have an inkling that big brother keeps an eye on all of us, just to varying degrees.
- noahhoward, on 12/10/2007, -3/+5'Big Brother' was investigating a business for tax-evasion. It has nothing to do with tracking random people. Also, if they could track people via their credit card they would not have needed to collect this information in the first place.
- f4nt0m4s, on 12/10/2007, -4/+3sshhh, don't contradict the holy tinfoil hat
- noahhoward, on 12/10/2007, -2/+2Crap he was wearing one? I swear I didn't see it, I love tinfoil... so shiny.
- VitriolAndAngst, on 12/10/2007, -0/+5Excuse me, which Tin-foil-hat theories about our government's domestic spying have proven true?
The one about manufactured evidence, the AT&T phone taps, or the one about outing a CIA agent?
- f4nt0m4s, on 12/10/2007, -4/+3sshhh, don't contradict the holy tinfoil hat
- noahhoward, on 12/10/2007, -3/+5'Big Brother' was investigating a business for tax-evasion. It has nothing to do with tracking random people. Also, if they could track people via their credit card they would not have needed to collect this information in the first place.
- cubeeggs, on 12/10/2007, -2/+1New intelligence reports show Iran visiting a website that my gut says is based in South America, and is selling terrorist equipment including uranium ore.
- Kennoad, on 12/10/2007, -2/+4Freedom FTW
- jennamalia, on 12/10/2007, -2/+3§215 of the Patriot Act lives on...
- Frostman3D, on 12/10/2007, -9/+32I hope you bastards vote fore RON PAUL so we can stop this *****.
- soot, on 12/10/2007, -1/+15I hope you bastards actually get off your asses and vote for him with your HANDS, not your credit cards.
- noahhoward, on 12/10/2007, -5/+2Stop legitimate investigations and compromises that make everyone happy?
- synarchy, on 12/10/2007, -1/+3The government did not need Amazon records to prosecute it's case. It's overreaching, and it does indeed need to stop.
- noahhoward, on 12/10/2007, -1/+1I'm sure you were very close to the case and privy to evidence we can't see as mere mortals but it would seem to me they wouldn't be looking for evidence if they already had the evidence.
- synarchy, on 12/10/2007, -1/+3The government did not need Amazon records to prosecute it's case. It's overreaching, and it does indeed need to stop.
- DeFex, on 12/10/2007, -9/+2he is a creationist.
- lowerlogic, on 12/10/2007, -1/+2....which has nothing to do with anything
- kinerry, on 12/10/2007, -0/+3no, he isn't
- bonds, on 12/10/2007, -0/+2Fore!
- demonsnake69, on 12/10/2007, -8/+2I hope the government subpoenas Digg.com next.
- InfamousAtheist, on 12/10/2007, -0/+1Even if they did, it wouldn't do much good... since digg registration is essentially anonymous. Troll.
- jdaniel284, on 12/10/2007, -2/+11I feel like a man without a country.
Sometimes I try to remember what it felt like to belong to a country where everyone was in it together, had similar beliefs, and would fight side-by-side defending liberty and each other. But maybe I was just younger when I felt that way and was too naive to really know the truth.
Has it always been this way?- noahhoward, on 12/10/2007, -3/+1It was that way, then people stopped reading stuff, they just started 'taking [their] word for it' and based their decisions on that word. That said, read the ***** article.
- MSweerts, on 12/10/2007, -1/+0[quote]That said, read the ***** article.[/quote]
Can I just look at the pictures?- PrincessSalami, on 12/10/2007, -0/+1No, this'll be on CNN first.
- MSweerts, on 12/10/2007, -1/+0[quote]That said, read the ***** article.[/quote]
- noahhoward, on 12/10/2007, -3/+1It was that way, then people stopped reading stuff, they just started 'taking [their] word for it' and based their decisions on that word. That said, read the ***** article.
- subterfuge, on 12/10/2007, -2/+4would it be legal for the government to get Amazon's records if they were given with Amazon's consent? or is Amazon bound by some kind of agreement with the consumer and forbidden to share purchase information?
- w09p, on 12/10/2007, -0/+2It may depend on the privacy agreement, but probably - it's an order. However, releasing these records wouldn't be in their interest regardless of how they feel about the guy the government was targeting - if Amazon starts giving in to subpoenas such as this one, consumers will hear about it, and it will hurt their business in a MAJOR way. Just look at the people on here who are already vowing to stop using Amazon (thanks to not reading the article and knowing about the actual outcome). If that's the case, they may as well stop doing a lot of things online that involve personal information.
- noahhoward, on 12/10/2007, -3/+1In this case it was an investigation, it is perfectly legal for the government to demand such records if a court agrees. You have the option of fighting those subpoenas if you feel they are too over-reaching and that is what Amazon did. Rather than give out the personal information, which would undermine consumer confidence, they negotiated to get permission to contact the customers the government was interested in interviewing and ask for volunteers. It was a compromise that worked for everyone and it should have been the method they used to start with, but the first request was well within reason.
- synarchy, on 12/10/2007, -1/+2The first blanket request for 24,000 records was within reason?
- noahhoward, on 12/10/2007, -1/+1Not all 24,000 would have the information they needed, if the guy had had 24,000 customers it is reasonable to have the information of all 24,000 so they can pull a list of people with a backup. I doubt they would have ended up contacting all 24,000 and the rest of the list would be filed away with the rest of the court documents. People move, people forget, what if they had requested only 120 and the information turned out to be useless, then they'd have to go through it all again.
- synarchy, on 12/10/2007, -1/+2The first blanket request for 24,000 records was within reason?
- AlphaEta, on 12/10/2007, -6/+2Old news in spam form! Who's digging this?
- cheesenuggets1, on 12/10/2007, -2/+11The tone of the article is not quite accurate. CNET reported this:
The onetime Madison city official who's facing tax evasion, wire fraud, and money laundering charges is Robert D'Angelo. He was indicted in October on charges that he ran a sizable mail order business from his city office, using city computers, and city storage facilities. The business allegedly generated $238,000 in revenue through the sale of music CDs, costume jewelry, and--through Amazon--used books.
Initially, prosecutors demanded "virtually all" records from Amazon dealing with D'Angelo, including "the identities of thousands of customers who had bought used books" from him, according to court documents. Prosecutors subsequently narrowed the request to 120 book buyers, 30 per year for the four years under investigation--on the theory that FBI and IRS agents could then contact those 120 customers.
David Zapolsky, vice president of litigation for Amazon, told the Wisconsin State Journal that his employer tries to protect its customers' privacy rights from governmental fishing expeditions: "When we don 't know what the government wants the information for and we have a doubt whether it violates privacy or First Amendment rights, typically we will dialog with the government and try to understand what their perspective is or we'll make a motion and have a judge decide whether the government has any need for the information."
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While I have no love for the Bush administration, this seems more like a fishing expedition to prosecute one man, rather than a widespread effort to catalog reading habits.- otaku244, on 12/10/2007, -0/+3Good fact checking! More people like you needed on digg these days!
- synarchy, on 12/10/2007, -0/+2"While I have no love for the Bush administration, this seems more like a fishing expedition to prosecute one man, rather than a widespread effort to catalog reading habits."
That's about it. Good post.
- digitallysick, on 12/10/2007, -1/+8Gov: we must act fast, the citizens are reading about "freedom" how can we fix it? Lets say they are terrorist, yeah, that will work!
- jlhoben, on 12/10/2007, -1/+13This is the real object of the War on Terror - to make ordinary people more compliant.
- Curlz31, on 12/10/2007, -1/+9Whoever bought 9/11: Synthetic Terror.......I think you're screwed. CIA will be breaking down the door in 5,4,3,2.......
- AydenV2, on 12/10/2007, -0/+3BRB FBI!
- agentx216, on 12/10/2007, -1/+12I wonder if Amazon could just say "We 'accidentally' deleted them all". I mean if it works for the White House it should work for anyone.
- AZSanMan, on 12/10/2007, -12/+2More Ron Paul crap. buried as inaccurate
- atomic811, on 12/10/2007, -3/+2WTF no seriously WTF!
- tcpip4lyfe, on 12/10/2007, -3/+3Sources?
- otaku244, on 12/10/2007, -1/+2I agree, this sounds more like a Ron Paul campaign pitch. Don't get me wrong, I think Ron Paul would be good, but this is just FUD.
Post sources, there has to be a more legitimate reason for this than "TERRORISTS!!! PATRIOT ACT!!! WTFOMG!!! EAT YOUR MENTAL BABIES!!!
- otaku244, on 12/10/2007, -1/+2I agree, this sounds more like a Ron Paul campaign pitch. Don't get me wrong, I think Ron Paul would be good, but this is just FUD.
- thewump, on 12/10/2007, -2/+1Are they wondering what kind of person wants to buy a whole rabbit and a douche?
- gthrank, on 12/10/2007, -0/+8If Amazon had actually co-operated with the fascists, I would have deleted my account and never spent another dime there. I have had ENOUGH OF THIS *****.
- lowerlogic, on 12/10/2007, -1/+2Fourth Amendment, Yeah!
- VitriolAndAngst, on 12/10/2007, -1/+9The people who think this is OK, and that "everyone does it" -- what's the harm, need to get the ***** smacked out of them for being such idiots:
1) Unless Terrorists are dumber than the average Digg blogger -- and I doubt it, they aren't going to be buying the book "How to build a bomb" or "How to fly a plane" in Arabic. They would buy in cash or steal the item. We can all note how NOTHING has happened to capture ter'rists, and how incompetent the government has been with regard to security. The ONLY good intelligence comes from following real leads and subpoenas help this process.
2) The FEAR created in citizens, that they can be profiled is real. People curtail their speech, watch what the say, and decide not to get that next Al Gore book. It has a subtle but useful influence on allowing a group to install a totalitarian government.
3) Profiling, and domestic spying, allow a group with the information to blackmail people they can compromise. Wonder why the Democrats are voting down the line with Republicans? Same reason they did it when Hoover was around; someone has dirt on them. Either they are bought out by a corporation, or outed in a scandal if they leave the reservation. If your Tom Daschell and they get nothing on you, you get Anthrax in the mail.
YOU might not have done something wrong -- but someone who has a bit more power over your life may certainly have skeletons in their closet. And YOU have to worry about what power someone has over them. Remember Mark Foley? - JusticeAK, on 12/10/2007, -2/+3Terrorist READ. QUICK burn the books.
- dustyshadow, on 12/10/2007, -4/+1blog spam
- addurobi, on 12/10/2007, -3/+2It must suck to live in the United States.
- themoosejuice, on 12/10/2007, -3/+1Just hand over the raw data and tell em to figure it out.
- morph988, on 12/10/2007, -1/+1if any of you think that Amazon didn't turn over those records, I got some land in iceland that I would like to sell you. Ever seen a judge and prosecutor go through the motions and have a fake hearing?. I have. Lots of times. It's shakespeare. Just like on tv. Most everything is staged these days including some criminal trials as well. Oh, and also the Presidential elections are staged. This article should not surprise those that know that 9/11 was an inside job. This should only surprise the people who are still asleep. bbbaaaaaaaa......bbaaaaaaaaa.....
- sporg, on 12/10/2007, -2/+2I am Jacks complete lack of surprise...
- anon12, on 12/10/2007, -0/+2Advertising has us chasing cars and clothes, working jobs we hate so we can buy ***** we don't need.
- overkillingness, on 12/10/2007, -4/+1Buried as sketchy/inaccurate... This line at the end of the original article says it all:
"About the author: Mike Adams is a holistic nutritionist with a strong interest in personal health, the environment and the power of nature to help us all heal"- BlacklabelSAR, on 12/10/2007, -1/+1Sounds like a good thing.
- agenthex, on 12/10/2007, -2/+0I say they encrypt the raw data with a random one-time-pad, then encrypt with AES and hand it over. It's still technically the data they're looking for.
- StarofTroy, on 12/10/2007, -1/+1Guess I'll be paying cash now and requesting the books at barnes and noble.
- rderveloy, on 12/10/2007, -1/+1Buried as inaccurate...
FTA: "The snooping attempt was blocked by U.S. Magistrate Judge Stephen Crocker who wrote in a recently-unsealed ruling, “Well-founded or not, rumors of an Orwellian federal criminal investigation into the reading habits of Amazon’s customers could frighten countless potential customers into canceling planned online book purchases.”
In other words, the system worked! Nothing more to see here; move along.... - tomis, on 12/10/2007, -0/+2Everyone in the American government should be shot, all the laws burned, it all needs to be reset. There I said it, come get me you power hungry bastards.
- nimbleprune, on 12/10/2007, -1/+0"Amerika"?
- BlacklabelSAR, on 12/10/2007, -2/+1"Until they become conscious they will never rebel, and until after they they have rebelled they cannot become conscious." —pg 61, referring the proles
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