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- inactive, on 02/15/2009, -19/+113Unless they forced hrte children to leave, they didn't kick anyone out. The parents chose to take their kid with them.
You do NOT reward illegal immigrants for having children. - faithforever, on 02/15/2009, -16/+102The US is the only country where children born here automatically become American citizens. If an American goes to another country, say Mexico, and has a baby, the child does not become a Mexican citizen.
Why I understand why people from third world countries want their kids to be Americans, the US cannot afford to be the world's biggest charity. US schools and social support systems are so bogged down with illegal immigrant kids that the US is going to be bankrupted. The huge debt in California is due to having to pay billions for illegal immigrants, and that's going to spread to the whole US.
The US also cannot reward people that break the law illegally entering the US. And many illegals have a kid as soon as they arrive in the US just so they can be allowed to stay and so the child can sponsor them for US citizenship once they become 18. - TheWriteGuy, on 02/15/2009, -5/+79A baby born in America (or American territory) is an American citizen. But this doesn't mean that the baby's parents are automatically entitled to stay in America if they are illegally in the country. Technically, the child isn't being deported, but has to go with his parents or those who have legal custody/guardianship of him. But because he was born an American citizen, he has every right to return to America when he is of legal age, or emancipated. Regardless of which way one feels about this matter, none of this conflicts with our Constitution.
- KenC411, on 02/15/2009, -2/+67Oddly, in Europe, most countries do not grant citizenship until you have lived in the country legally for a period of time. And children born to non-citizens are still non-citizens.
- BullBearMS, on 02/15/2009, -16/+73Are we supposed to forcefully take these children from their deported parents instead?
When these children have grown up, they will continue to be American citizens and can make their own choice between their parent's country and the country of their birth. - vault, on 02/15/2009, -7/+56The kids still remain citizens, though...it's the parents who never were. I don't think any law stops the kids from re-entering the United States when they're old enough to make that choice on their own.
The alternative would be a young orphan remaining in the United States without parents. Imagine if it's a 5-year-old who was born here...I wouldn't expect the parents to abandon their kids.
I am not sure what the solution here is. - opticwind, on 02/15/2009, -1/+40“If they took their children back,” he said of the deportees, “then technically we deported an American citizen. No matter which side of the immigration issue you fall on, there’s something wrong with the notion of kicking American citizens out of their own country.”
I see what you did there! See, he turned "Illegal immigrants *take* their children back with them if they are deported" and made it into "US deports legal citizens". They aren't deported. - Tenlow, on 02/15/2009, -5/+37Still, the idea that having a kid here will grant you immunity from deportation would invalidate virtually every border protection currently in place. All you have to do is stick around for 9 months and you're a citizen? I'm pro immigration and quite liberal in many of my views, but something seems wrong with that.
There should be some sort of test to change your citizenship past the "failure to use birth control" test. - oboshoe, on 02/15/2009, -10/+42This whole notion of using children to avoid deportation has got to stop.
Children are not meant to be anchors, nor tools to get what you want out of the legal system.
If you are a criminal immigrant and are using your kids as an excuse to continue your criminal life in American, then you are a person that we really don't want here anyway. - bpwned, on 02/15/2009, -0/+30No you don't. You need to have lived here for 8 years, don't have a criminal record and be able to live on your own without welfare. Then you can apply for citizenship, though you have to give up all other citizenships from outside the EU:
- crosquillas, on 02/15/2009, -2/+31This "outrage" is fairly ridiculous, anchor babies are nothing new. The children aren't stripped of their citizenship.
- inactive, on 02/15/2009, -3/+31Whats even worse is, look at how Mexico treats its immigrants. First of all, natural born Mexicans will always legally have priority for any job. If you enter Mexico illegally, and many do, it is a felony. Mexico treats it's illegals with a heavy fist, then turn to the US and demand we give our illegals equal rights as citizens. Classic.
- inactive, on 02/15/2009, -16/+44The child should be tazed, that ought to teach him for being born illegally.
- inactive, on 02/15/2009, -10/+36yes...blame hte governemtn at all costs. Not the people who choose to come here ILLEGALLY. (Not sure what part of that word you don't understand.)
- inactive, on 02/15/2009, -3/+29Yeah this is the dumbest story I've seen this year. The same jackass who did this story is the future writer of "They're removing children from immigrant families!"
Why don't they just say what they really mean, "U.S. borders should be completely open." Hey, if it's too crazy to say out loud then you shouldn't be thinking it either. - wkrausmann, on 02/15/2009, -4/+30No, you're missing the point. The children aren't being kicked out of the country. They are going with their parents who won't leave them behind. The parents ***** up and came here illegally and have to go. If they want to retain their children, they go, too.
- inactive, on 02/15/2009, -4/+30Or what about placing some of the blame on the parents? They know by sneaking into the US, they are illegal. They think by having kids here, they can avoid deportation. I do drywall work with a mostly all Mexican crew. They are pretty much all illegal and all have kids here. I ask why, they say, "to stay here."
- inactive, on 02/15/2009, -34/+59No, there isnt.
***** a kid out on the beach after floating here on a wooden door shouldnt automatically make him a citizen anyway. - mannymix03, on 02/15/2009, -5/+30exactly, once you read behind the sensationalist title you will realize the truth. What are we going to do? If the parents are illegal and get deported are we supposed to take their children from them and keep them in the United States, they are being deported to live with their parents, but they still retain citizenship and can return to the country.
- inactive, on 02/15/2009, -3/+28Bury me if you want, but you cant dispute what I said. Look at how Mexico treats an illegal from San Salvador or Guatemala, it's not very pretty. Oops, I forgot, this is Digg, I'm supposed to blame America for everything.
- merslerm, on 02/15/2009, -6/+30the fact that none of you see the unfairness and exploitation of our country done by the parents by having anchor babies blows my mind. Look at los angeles. A huge poor uneducated population feeding of the system, while other immigrants waiting in line for years are punished. This isn't a liberal or conservative issue, the fact that people are defending this shows what kind of ridiculous rhetoric people follow these days. These comments are seriously unbelievable... America, like any other country needs immigrants that can bring something to the table, not leechers.
- Chompy, on 02/15/2009, -22/+44Solution: do not automagically grant citizenship to children whose parents are both illegals. As a bonus, you no longer have pregnant women waddling across the desert and occasionally dying trying to make it across the line before they drop.
- mitrovarr, on 02/15/2009, -5/+27We either need to decide to let these workers in legally and give them rights or aggressively enforce our borders and employment law. This kind of half-state where we don't let them be in the country legally but also tacitly let employers hire them under the table is wrong - it essentially exists to create a class of workers with no rights and no legal status. It basically boils down to neo-feudalism or neo-slavery.
- inactive, on 02/15/2009, -7/+28They should be deported, like he was. Seems to be working fine to me.
- yacks, on 02/15/2009, -1/+21Right on the nose! People want to claim this is hurting the kids because the kids are being "deported" which in fact they are not.. they are just going back to where their parents are from because their parents are being deported for coming here illegally. If you want to ride on the "Why won't anyone think of our children?" Bandwagon, then what about the children in our country born to legal residents that grow up poor and at a major disadvantage? Parents make their choices.. unfortunately kids are always going to be hurt by these choices.. It's the parent's choice to come here illegally, so if they don't want their kids shipped back with them after birth, they should come here legally and then give birth. Sorry, but we cannot care for every child that has a bad life because of their parents' decisions.
- febrilefiend, on 02/15/2009, -12/+32Ok, what you all are forgetting is that they are a foreign invader period. Oh, their country sucks and blah blah blah and now my Country needs to bend to them I think not. I'm sorry if you don't want to deport their offspring. Then you put their offspring in an adoption center. They are foreign invaders period. If you want to live in this country there are proper channels to go through.
- cloviejr, on 02/15/2009, -4/+24Anchor babies aweigh!
- zyko, on 02/15/2009, -2/+21Actually anchor babies are entitled to full welfare benefits. Since many immigrants were/are poor, they can live rather decently compared to their previous country with free food, health care and housing. This also explains why they have so many kids, because in a way they get paid to have kids.
- sportbikepilot, on 02/15/2009, -15/+34we should change the law... if you are born in the USA, you are NOT a citizen unless one of your parents is also a citizen of the USA, living in the USA. that would stop women coming across the border to spawn here.
- anubis2night, on 02/15/2009, -23/+41I have a friend whose sister is happily married to a mexican man who was here for almost 10 years, they've been married more than five years and have 3 children here. He was trying to get his green card, at his last step he was required to go to the border area at which point in the interview they asked how many times he'd come over. He answered twice and they kicked him out. Now my buddies sister and her children have moved over to Mexico to keep the family together. I might ass here that he has always paid his taxes on time and has never asked for aid from the system. I'm sure there's more stories like these out there...
- bobbknight, on 02/15/2009, -12/+29So let me get this straight, your in this country illegally, you pump out a kid and it's automatically a United States citizen.
What other country lets you get away with that *****.
I say you need to be here legally, to pump out US Citizens. - joe122370, on 02/15/2009, -7/+24they're wards of their parents they HAVE to go where their parents go. The only people that have created the problem are their law breaking parents.
- motorhead9999, on 02/15/2009, -2/+19green card does not equal citizenship. Completely different process between the two
- JackSchittt, on 02/15/2009, -1/+17Just because it's difficult to follow the rules doesn't give you the right to break them.
- RomeyRome, on 02/15/2009, -3/+19Don't they call those "anchor babies"? Nice to see the government not caving into that gimmick.
- darkened, on 02/15/2009, -11/+27"No matter which side of the immigration issue you fall on, there’s something wrong with the notion of kicking American citizens out of their own country,”
No there isn't. If your born in the USA to illegal immigrants you're a ***** illegal immigrant. GTFO. period. no questions. - oboshoe, on 02/15/2009, -15/+31Well when you marry a criminal, you have to expect some hardships.
- Betrayer, on 02/15/2009, -8/+24Just because a baby is pooped out in the united states should not make it a citizen.
now this problem is solved.
unless one of the parents are here legally, they are just visitors and need to go home. - zerohelix, on 02/15/2009, -2/+18Though the US is a nation of immigrants this is the issue here: Illegal immigrants come here and have kids who then become automatic citizens. At the same time these illegal immigrants usually take on some under the table job and whatever is left over from paying for food/rent/other living expenses, they send that money back into mexico! And this is where the argument that they don't pay their fair share of taxes comes from. They send their children through out public schools and eat off our social welfare programs..
The mexican government even ENCOURAGES their people to illegally emigrate into the US! Granted any immediate action against illegal immigrants would have immediate and disastrous effects since they are so embedded in our under the table workforce (nannies, janitors, construction workers, etc) but i GUARANTEE that a stronger border defense that brinks on militerism would stop the bleeding. Oh and eliminating that insane and very stupid law that allows the children of illegal immigrants to become US citizens. - yacks, on 02/15/2009, -5/+20Still send them packing.. if they want to take their kids with them, then so be it. Let the kid decide when he becomes older if he wants to live up here or not. We should not be rewarding these ILLEGAL immigrants for having babies on our side of the border. If you wish to let them stay, why have borders?
- drlha, on 02/15/2009, -0/+15Sounds like he got denied for entering the USA without inspection, which they must have suspected by having him go to the border station (that never happened when I got my green card). That is grounds for green card denial, regardless of whether one has paid taxes. Breaking the law is not excused by being a good person sadly.
- inactive, on 02/15/2009, -14/+29don't let the door hit you on the way out.
- davidg11, on 02/15/2009, -10/+25I'm sick of people crossing the border just to make their kids "american citizens" by birth.
And yes, they should go with their illegal immigrant parents back to Mexico until they are 18. Then they can choose. - inactive, on 02/15/2009, -4/+19No one EVER expected that to be the case until the end of time. Immigrants are still welcome, b the way. As long as they come here LEGALLY.
- caramba421, on 02/15/2009, -6/+21You might ass here?
- oboshoe, on 02/15/2009, -8/+23
The child can stay, the criminal parents should leave.
Criminal immigrant parents have the choice. Take their child with them back home to America when deported, leave the child with an American citizen to raise, or give it up for adoption.
Hard choices? You bet they are, but its a choice that they brought on themselves when they decided to become a criminal. - inactive, on 02/15/2009, -15/+29Ya lets encourage more criminals (aka illegals) to ***** out yet more babies by rewarding the ones that do. Great ***** idea Azerael, how many are you going to let live at your house?
Chompy is right on the money, time to amend what it takes to be a citizen. -
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