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- Napoleone, on 02/14/2008, -1/+83URGENT: Immunity is bad, but it is NOT the number one issue with this bill.
This bill seeks to make legal warrant-less domestic spying of ALL the Internet, and ALL phone calls, and ALL financial tranctions. That's in direct violation of your 4th Amendments rights.
I feel it's important we express to the Congress that THIS is the primary issue. Immunity is a big deal, but it pales in comparison to the killing of the 4th Amendment. - elitistmusician, on 02/14/2008, -8/+77Chris Dodd should have gone through with the filibuster...
- azbmr, on 02/14/2008, -6/+61I called my congresswoman, and her staffer made it sound like she was going to oppose any bill with telecommunication company immunity. *crosses fingers*
- GhostWithToast, on 02/14/2008, -2/+357 more votes will stop this from becoming law - here are the undecided dems
http://www.dailyawesome.com/stoptelcoimmunity.html - LunaSoul, on 02/14/2008, -7/+36If you're passionate about our rights than send the letter and get active.
- mknoll1, on 02/14/2008, -2/+23If you believe that the Terrorists hate us because of our freedom then congratulations Government you are letting them win by slowly taking it away from us.
- Daiken, on 02/14/2008, -0/+20Seriously. How do you Americans keep electing moron after moron?
- Napoleone, on 02/14/2008, -1/+20It's the House you want to contact, not the senate.
http://www.house.gov/ - Sic133, on 02/14/2008, -8/+24Obama voted "nay"
- smurf22, on 02/14/2008, -0/+15How is this even constitutional? This would go against EVERYTHING America was founded on.
- eFiniTi, on 02/14/2008, -6/+19Obama voted nay, McCain voted yay, and Clinton did not vote.
- swrostmore, on 02/14/2008, -6/+18Another petition from constitutional scholar glenn greenwald
http://action.firedoglake.com/page/petition/Restor ... - inactive, on 02/14/2008, -6/+17Here's the list of contact info for your congressman.
Call them, email them.
http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/ ... - smurf22, on 02/14/2008, -0/+9We don't they just grab for power, and them we say ***** it what's on tv.
- matrixbandit, on 02/14/2008, -0/+9@LukasSmuth: Obama DID vote against it. Instead of guessing, do a quick google search, please. It will save you from embarrassing yourself next time.
@elitemusician: My understanding is that the vote in favor of the bill was enough to make it filibuster proof. Although I admit I am not completely clear on how that works exactly. - PHiZ187, on 02/14/2008, -0/+8This is so important because it sets precedent. Electronic communications are going to get more and more important as we become more and more wired. Letting the executive branch illegally wiretap and then covering it up by pushing for legislative immunity means that in the future we cannot count on private industry to stand up when they are approached and asked to facilitate an illegal wiretap. And public-private intelligence partnerships like this are going to be more and more common.
- metalclay, on 02/14/2008, -1/+8Obama voted Nay-good. Clinton didn't vote-w/e.
- fwonk, on 02/14/2008, -0/+7Maybe you should have done a little research before opening your mouth.
- odiego, on 02/14/2008, -2/+9I called my FL representative and left a message. Don't just DIGG, do your part..
- asforme, on 02/14/2008, -0/+7Um, yeah It would be much better if they voted unintelligently so you could feel like you did your part making a phone call they will never hear or care about.
- EarlOfLade, on 02/14/2008, -0/+6People can protest all they want, it will not change the outcome. This is not the way to do it, as has been shown with several bills in the last years.
What is needed, is a million people in Washington, demonstrating outside the White House and the Congress/Senate. Actually, you need to remove Bush/Cheney and most of their croonies with arms and throw them in jail before anything will change. And we know that is not going to happen since obese American idol watching pizza eating fatties ain't going to do anything that requires them to turn off the TV or move their fat asses without a car. USA us the safest dictatorship you can imagine. And Americans are still talking about "The land of the free", well, that land is not USA, that's for sure! - shyner, on 02/14/2008, -0/+6*sigh* and yet.. hardly anyone in this country will actually act, know, or care..
- chrisutley, on 02/14/2008, -0/+6BURY THEM IN YOUR PROTESTS - EMAIL, PHONE CALLS, LETTERS - BURY THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- apc3161, on 02/14/2008, -0/+5I called my 18th district Florida representative and let her know how I felt.
- Napoleone, on 02/14/2008, -9/+14Obama voted 'NAY' on immunity, but he couldn't be bothered to stay long enough to vote 'NAY' on warrant-less domestic spying.
Our 4th Amendment right was directly assualted and he let a scheduled speech preclude the defense of our Constitution. The guy's a ***** failure. - TomAHolic, on 02/14/2008, -0/+5"Those who are ready to sacrifice freedom for security ultimately will lose both" -Abraham Lincoln
The only thing worse than the government not adhering to The Constitution is them making changes to it. - redthirteen, on 02/14/2008, -2/+7Thank you for the link. I sent letters to my state senators. Thank you.
- Tiak, on 02/14/2008, -0/+4Update:
Okay, now I've gotten everything straightened out, Obama voted for the Dodd-Feingold amendment (mentioned in the article), which would have stripped the bill of its immunity powers. He did not actually vote on the passage of the bill. Look it up.
I am not anti-Obama. I am just attempting to let the reality of the situation be known. - SkinnerBox, on 02/14/2008, -0/+4Well, it didn't take long for Rupert's icy fingers to affect that paper.
- dizturbd2, on 02/14/2008, -0/+4Sent mine.
- TheTaoOfBill, on 02/14/2008, -0/+4There is no excuse for any democrat to vote in favor of this. Too many democrats have betrayed us in favor of telecom lobbyist money. The system is way too ***** up. Senators and congressmen should have term limits to cut out the people who've been in washington too long and have taken advantage of their power. Washington needs new blood and fresh faces.
- swoopdog, on 02/14/2008, -0/+4Ron Paul!
im just saying - carpespasm, on 02/14/2008, -0/+3more importantly they need to have corporate lobbyists banned.
- korbandallas, on 02/14/2008, -0/+3Killing this bill won't do anything in the long run. Washington no longer acknowledges the Constitution as the basis of our government, but rather as an obstacle to increasing their power.
- barnett25, on 02/14/2008, -0/+3It's not about whether anyone wants to hear us, it's about our rights. If you can't understand that I sure hope you are not voting this year...
- Refrag, on 02/14/2008, -0/+3Here's what the Bush Administration and Republicans are doing to try to force Democratic support for telecom immunity:
http://digg.com/politics/Republicans_Rerun_Failed_ ... - joshuabowers, on 02/14/2008, -0/+3I get the same thing when attempting to send an email to Ken Calvert. Seems the House's email server is borked. Hopefully flooded with messages from people who oppose this?
- fakkedap, on 02/14/2008, -0/+3I'm still trying to wrap my head around how they can subvert an amendment to the Constitution without another amendment.
Anyone? Bueller? - Napoleone, on 02/14/2008, -1/+4Asking one's neighbors is one way of being informed.
- Napoleone, on 02/14/2008, -0/+2I'm not sure what rights you are guaranteed under your Constitution, but under ours, we are recognized the unalienable right to due process of law. We are entitled to be secure in our houses and our papers and our personal effects, and that right cannot be violated except with a warrant that details a probable cause and is specific as to what it is that's being looked for and where it is it will be looked for.
This proposed law would abolish that right, without so much as amending our Constitution. - greenlight2001, on 02/14/2008, -0/+2"To strike the provisions providing immunity from civil liability to electronic communication service providers for certain assistance provided to the Government."
No.... 'nay' means keep it in, 'Yay' means take it out. Nay bad, yay good, in this case. - Loxias, on 02/14/2008, -1/+3I don't know about you but I would rather take the small chance of being killed in a terrorist attack within current constitutional security and die with my freedom than have this bill pass.
/John Proctor FTW - Pritchard, on 02/14/2008, -0/+2People lie. Loopholes are going unfixed. The major news stations are backing the most powerful, corrupt people running for office. Those of us who do have the knowledge to choose the right people for our country and weed out those who seek to abuse their power need to find a way to make this knowledge more mainstream, or else I see a terrible future for the USA.
- extratwice, on 02/14/2008, -0/+2WTF is wrong with the senate, how could anyone vote to pass this assault on millions of Americans. Political Career Moves > Civil Liberties
- Tiak, on 02/14/2008, -1/+3source?... Both the senate website and project votesmart indicate that papaluinkita is correct. (though DatDamWuf isn't, McCain definitely voted)
- apc3161, on 02/14/2008, -0/+2Her assistant said he would put it in the "input box". I said it doesn't matter, cause I wouldn't have voted for her anyways. Shes terrible.
FL 18th Ros - Lehtinen.
hawk on foreign policy
against civil liberties
into big government - BETRAMS, on 02/14/2008, -0/+2How many times do I have to digg this before it gets off the Senate and House floor for debate.
- shakbhaji, on 02/14/2008, -0/+2Technically this isn't the "last chance" to stop this bill from becoming a law because the Supreme Court could rule it unconstitutional (which it is). This should nevertheless be taken seriously because I wouldn't bank on the robes suddenly growing a spine and doing their damn jobs.
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