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- mbonzo531, on 05/26/2008, -8/+60I live in New York and I don't know of one person that voted for Hillary for senate or for the democratic nomination. She bought her seat on the senate and even Bloomberg admitted that the NY democratic primary was rigged after seeing the results from Harlem. There is no trouble brewing... she's just gotta hope she has enough money after the primary is over so she can buy her seat in the next senate election.
- thirdcoastborn, on 05/26/2008, -5/+56I used to despise her. Now I pity her.
- inactive, on 05/26/2008, -2/+40I never understood why New York welcomed her in the first place... she never lived in New York until she wanted to run for office.
- Sham1969, on 05/26/2008, -1/+26So a wealthy liberal (I imagine there are many people like this in New York) who wants to enter politics decides they want to challenge her in the senate primary.
They go around the country fund raising. Their slogan is something like "do you remember back in the spring of 2008 when Hillary Clinton was saying such bad things about President Obama? Now its your turn to tell her how you felt about that"
The thing practically sells itself. So, she is pretty much done now. - inactive, on 05/26/2008, -4/+27dugg for the picture of all the hippies in a giant love nest.
- Bith8654, on 05/26/2008, -1/+22Can't it be both?
- whataboutdave, on 05/26/2008, -1/+19For what it's worth I still despise her.
- Berkana, on 05/26/2008, -1/+19Why pitty her? She was ruthless in her campaign; let her reap what she sowed.
- smacksaw, on 05/26/2008, -3/+17I like how she thinks these wounds can be easily healed. Considering the "several hundred year screwjob" given to blacks in this country, I don't think you can kick someone while they're down and then say "oh, it's no big deal - you'll support me" as she has. If she thinks it's easy to heal, she really doesn't know anything about what it means to be black in the US. If she thinks it's easy to heal, what the hell is Bill Cosby wasting his breath over? She's insulting the constant work by Al Sharpton. I'd be pissed if I were him because she is marginalising the work he does to fight for the disadvantaged. I don't like Sharpton, but I understand his raison d'etre.
- inactive, on 05/26/2008, -0/+13This is what happens when you go the at-all-costs route.
- cadmiumpaint, on 05/26/2008, -0/+12Career Over.
- opencity, on 05/26/2008, -0/+12Women everywhere now have their feelings hurt. (just because the comment is sexist doesn't mean it's less true).
It all depends on how good a soldier she is after the convention. If she campaigns her (pretty little) ass off for Obama she'll be alright. If she's perceived as undercutting Obama, and Obama loses, Eliot Spitzer could beat her in two years.
I'm from New York and I vote. - Brennn10, on 05/26/2008, -2/+13Trouble has been brewing for Hillary since the campaign started.
- IphtashuFitz, on 05/26/2008, -0/+11Just another sign of the fact that Clinton will do/say anything to get what she wants and doesn't mind stepping all over the people who got her to where she currently is.
- mrsteveman1, on 05/26/2008, -0/+11What you are seeing right now, the campaign, this is what Hillary ran for senate for, she was getting ready to run for president and nothing more.
She never wanted to be a senator. - cyclopssmiley, on 05/26/2008, -0/+10I live in New York and many of my African American friends feel this way.
- Intercon, on 05/26/2008, -0/+9Hey! Thanks for being an ignorant racist. Come on up to Harlem, I've got some friends here that want to hear all about your political views...
- mikelieman, on 05/26/2008, -2/+11More like, "don't expect her to lose her seat, because the votes aren't even counted."
- mw113, on 05/26/2008, -0/+8She hasn't done ***** for us NY'ers anyway.
- Ratteler, on 05/26/2008, -0/+8Maybe she'll take her carpetbag to one of those "white middle American states" she's so popular in.
- fani, on 05/26/2008, -0/+7The only reason she ran in NY as its a big state with lots of electoral votes and winning NY or being around there ensures you can also grab NJ, PA, MA, CT and possible rest of north east.
I can't understand why NY voted for her.
Anyways, she'll be moving back to Arkansas soon. - ayiticherie, on 05/26/2008, -1/+8Actually, it's the other way around for me.
- OriginalReplica, on 05/26/2008, -0/+7I live in NYC. Bloomberg is a kickass mayor. Mostly because he didn't have to make any side deals to fund raise for his campaign. He doesn't owe anybody any favors, he's better than 99.99% of the politicians in office today.
- PopcornDave, on 05/26/2008, -1/+8What New York loss? She still thinks she's going to be president.
However, should that fail, she'll go after the Governor's seat presumably. But going a second time against a black man would be interesting. - namat, on 05/26/2008, -6/+13To all those who say they will vote for McSame if your nominee loses know that you will be voting for all of the following:
1). War with Iran
2). Destructive foreign policy with little or no diplomacy
3). Further devaluation of the U.S. Dollar
4). Removal of a woman's right to choose
5). Further erosion of due process rights and other constitutional rights
6). $10-$15/gallon gas prices
7). Food prices quadrupling by the end of his first term
8). Aggravated stagflation
9). Appointment of religious extremists to the Supreme Court who seek to transform the United States into a theocracy
10). More corporate welfare
11). Rising health care costs.
and much, much more. - sovereign3, on 05/26/2008, -2/+8If you're politician it's not wise nor savvy to trumpet the support of one constituency over another. You're effectively saying "I don't need your votes."
- dha07030, on 05/26/2008, -3/+9True or not you don't say it and if you can't control your mouth then you are not a very good politician.
- manu3l, on 05/26/2008, -2/+8I never understood why Bush was reelected...
- LeeSoong, on 05/26/2008, -2/+7Hillary's Response:
"What ?
There are black people in New York ?
I've never seen them!"
/s - PabloMac, on 05/26/2008, -0/+5It's hard to pity people who bring hard times upon themselves.
- itsontheway, on 05/26/2008, -0/+5The person who said that is backing Obama. Toni Morrison
See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toni_Morrison#Politic ... - MizuhoChan, on 05/26/2008, -0/+5Why doesn't she just give up?
- inactive, on 05/26/2008, -0/+5I'm in NY and I have no idea why.
- itsontheway, on 05/26/2008, -1/+5I agree with your point that somewhere, deep inside her head, that she is banking on the public´s bad memory on things. In the past, she may have been able to come back, but nowadays -- so long as the internet is what it is -- a comeback in 2012, should Obama lose, seems to be less and less likely. She is trying to inflict all the damage she can so McCain snatches it in November, so she can challenge him in 2012. Should this be the case, I don´t think the public´s memory will be so bad since the Internet is here.
- itsontheway, on 05/26/2008, -1/+5It is over. Hillary is just in denial. In terms of fundraising = over; in terms of support = over; in terms of votes = over; in terms of delegates = over.
Obama would have to pretty much concede to her for now reason to lose at this point. - brstilson, on 05/26/2008, -1/+5If HIllary Clinton knew there were blacks in NYC, she would give a speech in which she pretends to rap, dressed in a fubu hoodie, laceless sneakers, and a gigantic gold chain. She would also be holding a 40 oz bottle of Colt 45 in one hand and holding up her ridiculously oversized jeans up with the other.
And unfortunately, there would be blacks who would buy this. There were rednecks who bought her "duck hunting" story after all. - eliot2000, on 05/26/2008, -5/+9That's not funny.
People are all clamoring for everyone but Obama to drop out of the race, but everyone knows it's still anyone's game. Biden could totally come back. Hillary's sunk though. - BishkekBuddy, on 05/26/2008, -0/+4I used to pity her. Now, I despise her.
- manteca29, on 05/26/2008, -4/+7fight for the disadavantaged? sharpton is a parasite. he takes their money and in no way helps their cause. remember Tawana Brawley you stupid *****.
- itsontheway, on 05/26/2008, -0/+3The problem with your argument is that you have no sense of identity politics or divide and conquer tactics. It´s one thing to be captain obvious. It´s quite another to divide a group of people for political gain, which IS what she is attempting to do. In case you have forgot, she is not only talking about white voters; her and her supporters have been in charge of pushing the idea that Obama is a muslim, which is false.
Remember her non-denial, denial:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7eAnx6Vxrs
Or another one: Elitist Obama vs Whiskey guzzling Hillary.
Or gun wheeling Hillary vs Obama.
Honesty is the last thing to describe Hillary as. Calculating more like it. She knows she is polarizing people and dividing them with her statements. That´s the goal. To divide, so the GOP can mop up in the fall. Then, 2012.
Classic us against them strategy many politicians use. There is advantages to the tactics and they do work, but in case you haven´t noticed, the electorate is getting tired of it. We´ve been subjected to it heavily over the last 8 years. - Ratteler, on 05/26/2008, -1/+4Like Hillary wasn't in office for almost ALL of that. Look at Hillary and McCain's campaign contributors and you'll realize that the only difference will be which side gets the blame.
- Anonymerican, on 05/26/2008, -0/+3"Desperation is a stinky cologne, John"
- queenbee93, on 05/26/2008, -0/+3HOW? How can the HRC campaign repair the racially divisive damage of this campaign? If blacks forgive her and support her again, the green light to behave as vile as republicans then say "sorry" later will be the calling card in every election that a black enters whether against a fellow democrat or a Republican. The fact is, blacks need to wake up--if you want to discourage wrong or bad behavior, don't ever condone it or appear to tolerate it. To forgive HRC for deliberate remarks will only embolden others to use race as a legitimate means to divide their own party and win elections.
Either Blacks and others "buck up" and learn to stop turning the other cheek continually when people who pretend to support them, backstab them OR they stop whining and accept that their lot in life is to be the political footstool and rug for any party running. It is time that blacks understand that no party deserves absolute and continual loyalty--it is EARNED by how one is consistently viewed and treated not by fake promises that disappear about as soon as the swearing in ceremonies are over.
NO to HRC, not now, not in 2012 and no to anyone else who plays similar divisive games. - dirtyfrog, on 05/26/2008, -1/+4You must live upstate. Upstate NY is typically conservative. The reason NY is a democrat state is because of NYC. Their are more people their than the rest of the state so whatever they vote is what we get. I am sure if you went closer to the city it would be hard to find a voter who didn't vote for Hillary.
- rezist, on 05/26/2008, -1/+3meaning your african born friends who became american citizens, or your black friends?
- yacks, on 05/26/2008, -0/+2But then again Toni Morrison could be wrong because there is a list of other Black Presidents
Thomas Jefferson
Andrew Jackson
Abraham Lincoln
Warren G Harding
and possibly Eisenhower
Look up "Five Black Presidents" by J.A. Rogers - Kas70, on 05/26/2008, -0/+2She is banking on the fact that blacks (for the most part) really are very forgiving and all it usually takes is what seems to be a sincere effort or apology from those who have offended them. She is banking on the fact that blacks (for the most part) have always supported whoever is the Democrat in whatever race. I used to love Bill and like her. I believed that they were good at heart. Even after Iowa, I still thought she could pull it off and even if she didn't, all would be well because they were all Democrats. Now I feel like someone I trusted turned out to be the exact opposite of who I thought they were. That's not simply a little fib here and there; it is their professed core beliefs being at odds with what they have done in this campaign once they saw their sure win slipping away. I am black and I know I am not alone in feeling like she may not be able to fix this one.
- MacEnvy, on 05/26/2008, -0/+2I don't know that Patterson wants the Governorship, TBH, though having a "reluctant leader" is always appealing to me. I'd like to see her run against H. Carl McCall. I always liked him. I wish he'd beaten Pataki.
- dirtyfrog, on 05/27/2008, -0/+2And that is the only reason she came to NY, to run for Senate. Their was no one else to vote for in NY. As mrsteveman1 said above, she ran for Senate only to use that as a spring board for President. That alone keeps me from voting for her. I never understood voting for someone to represent our state when they have only lived here around the amount of time required to run for Senate. I was a year from being able to vote when she first ran. I may have voted for Lazio over her simply because he has lived in NY and she had lived here for maybe a year and a half.
I am sure their are a lot of pockets throughout upstate NY that are Democrats. I grew up in CNY and all of my friends from there and my parents are Democrats. As a whole though upstate NY is more conservative. -
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