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- duggtodeath, on 05/28/2008, -3/+308Of course, how else could we start a war with them?
- zombird, on 05/28/2008, -4/+219"I'm so sick of arming the world, then sending troops over to destroy the ***** arms, you know what I mean? We keep arming these little countries, then we go and blow the ***** out of them. We're like the bullies of the world, y'know. We're like Jack Palance in the movie Shane, throwing the pistol at the sheepherder's feet.
"Pick it up."
"I don't wanna pick it up, Mister, you'll shoot me."
"Pick up the gun."
"Mister, I don't want no trouble. I just came downtown here to get some hard rock candy for my kids, some gingham for my wife. I don't even know what gingham is, but she goes through about ten rolls a week of that stuff. I ain't looking for no trouble, Mister."
"Pick up the gun."
(He picks it up. Three shots ring out.)
"You all saw him - he had a gun." - Bill Hicks - moulin1, on 05/28/2008, -5/+170If Prescott Bush provided war materials to Adolph Hitler while America was at war with Germany and never suffered any penalty, how surprising is it that GW Bush's pals are doing the same thing today?
- kdawg1012, on 05/28/2008, -1/+95FTA: "If the U.S. ends up engaged in a war with Iran in the future, Cheney and Halliburton will bear the brunt of the blame". But they don't care - it's just the "bottom line" that they're interested in - and they don't care how many dead Americans it will take to improve it.
- aliengoods, on 05/28/2008, -0/+83You have a point. It's easier to say they have WMDs when you're the one who sold the components to them.
- Ciryon, on 05/28/2008, -5/+73Please fix your country my American friends.. please.. It doesn't really matter if this story is true or not, you guys still have some ***** up people in power. My head almost explodes when I think about this stuff, it's like trying to think about how big the universe is only this makes you angry at the same time. For you American that actually have a brain, whats it like to live in the worlds greatest democracy and to not have a say at all and how high is your blood pressure? (legit question..)
- ClosedCaption, on 05/28/2008, -2/+69The Neo Cons call it "Free Market Solutions" to waging war
- abby11, on 05/28/2008, -1/+67So Believable,I am not Shocked in the least.
- AeroSquid, on 05/28/2008, -1/+64We should start a war with Halliburton.
- Nougat, on 05/28/2008, -2/+61This is precisely what happened with Iraq.
- VitriolAndAngst, on 05/28/2008, -0/+46Couldn't get any more clear than that.
- pintomp3, on 05/28/2008, -2/+48LOL, little neocon noahhoward trying so hard to justify giving people weapons and then invading them for having those weapons (even when they didn't have them anymore).
- mentallyinhell, on 05/28/2008, -4/+45They couldn't even find the WMDs they sold them.
- MiddleOfNowhere, on 05/28/2008, -0/+34When you're in the business of war, the one thing you can't afford is countries running out of weapons.
- Stonekeeper, on 05/28/2008, -1/+34It's all a big con my friends... a big con.
- pintomp3, on 05/28/2008, -1/+30they are based in the middle east now..
- justjoehere, on 05/28/2008, -7/+35[citation needed]
- spinchange, on 05/28/2008, -1/+27additional sources:
"Cyrus Nasseri Arrested" - 7/29/2005
http://www.iran-press-service.com/ips/articles-200 ...
"Halliburton's man in Iran" -9/16/2005
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/worldopinionroundup ...
"Halliburton operates in Iran despite sanctions" -3/7/2005
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7119752/ - radink360, on 05/28/2008, -0/+26The question is, why the ***** to we keep voting these ***** into office. The minute they do something like this, they should be out and tried as traitors to the country.
- unknownsoldierX, on 05/28/2008, -2/+26You forgot to tell us to stay off your lawn.
- Jlaugh, on 05/28/2008, -1/+25Source: Global Research.ca, August 5, 2005, Title: “Halliburton Secretly Doing Business With Key Member of Iran’s Nuclear Team,” Author: Jason Leopold
Seems it's on the first line, I wonder how you missed it... - VitriolAndAngst, on 05/28/2008, -1/+24The civil war in Iraq was no accident either. They gave KBR a $7 Billion retainer to repair oil wells -- and which they got to pocket 100% of that, as job one was to defend the oil wells on the invasion. The cities, the power grid, the water supply -- all chaos. On a country that had been effectively disarmed for years. Then the weapons depots were unguarded with padlocks at most to protect them, the military was disbanded (oops they say), and sent home with their weapons with no job to feed their family. The government was then divided up along religious differences instead of pushing for a sectarian model. And THESE are the people we were told were the military geniuses -- of course, that title usually goes to whomever spends the most taxpayer money on weapons, but you get the idea.
I don't think you can steal two elections and be this stupid. They only have one fool to clean up after -- he just has to show up relatively sober. BushCo is very efficient. They had plans for New Orleans waiting for a disaster. They had the Patriot Act already written. They had detailed invasion plans with corporations on who would get what. The first thing they did after taking control was to privatize Iraqi infrastructure work.
I don't see why the notion of an inside job is farfetched in the least. We have evidence that MOST wars the US has engaged in had a false flag to start them off -- people who don't know what I mean, are not much into being informed anyway. - FairDinkumMate, on 05/28/2008, -0/+21And the worst of it is Halliburton will get billions more in 'non-compete' contracts for reconstruction!
Gotta love US capitalism!!! - mobilexile, on 05/28/2008, -7/+26It's sinful that Americans don't read more ... this is old news.
A few more news flashes:
1. Ronald Reagan lied to the American people and to Congress by telling us Pakistan didn't have a nuclear bomb program.
2. Ronald Reagan lied to the American people and to Congress when he said all the aid we were giving Pakistan was going into fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan. Truth is we funded their nuclear weapons program. That's right, kids, we bought the bomb for Pakistan.
3. George H.W. Bush allowed the Pakistani weapons program continue throughout his stay in the Oval Office.
4. Bill Clinton didn't do ***** about Pakistan's bomb program either. If anything he supported it by keeping his mouth shut.
5. George W. Bush can't find Pakistan, Afghanistan or Texas on a map and thus is not worth further comment. - noahhoward, on 05/28/2008, -5/+23Yeah except for the fact that our intelligence shows they stopped building weapons.
- EarlOfLade, on 05/28/2008, -1/+18"worlds greatest democracy" has nothing to do with USA. It's so far from being anything close to a functioning democracy you can be without being a total dictatorship.
- XeXers, on 05/28/2008, -1/+16Source: Global Research.ca, August 5, 2005, Title: “Halliburton Secretly Doing Business With Key Member of Iran’s Nuclear Team,” Author: Jason Leopold
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va& ... - aliengoods, on 05/28/2008, -1/+16Historically speaking, over the last 100 years Iran has been more peaceful than Germany. They haven't attacked anyone in the last 70 years.
- Neoanarchist, on 05/28/2008, -1/+16Bill Hicks is an amazing comedian.
- VitriolAndAngst, on 05/28/2008, -1/+16Ahhh,... now we are getting to the great unwinding!
Let's go back in time -- way back to the outing of Valerie Plame Wilson. Now remember that her agency, was Brewster Jenn!ngs, a brass plate C!A op to do what? Stop proliferation of WMDs. The best way to make sure that a country has WMDs, is to give them some. Maybe, the outing of Valerie wasn't as retaliation -- but to get rid of a group that was in the way of the hidden policy. There were reports that some VX gas had Carylse labels on them. Too bad they didn't go to the press. Any damage assessments done on that yet?
Take a peak at what whistle-blower Siebel Edmunds has to say,... as a translator for the FBI, she intercepted Turkish communications that showed that higher-ups were stopping the FBI from following investigations into weapons sales. Basically, that the Bush government was selling weapons to the very enemies, they tried to make us get all worried about. Add in a few stories about A Q Kann in Pakistan. It was late last year that public outcry got the military to stop selling F14s to Iran -- probably because they ran out of stock.
It is classic Bush family MO to play both sides against the middle. They did it in the "arms for no hostages" in Iran to give the "dangerous" anti-American extremist faction the leg up on the moderates. Note that the boat, the SS Poet, sank with all hands -- that was the boat that allegedly transported the weapons. Maybe we need to ask the great american hero Ollie North a few more questions?
Boy, Saddam was a sucker too -- I'd love to ask him what James Baker told him when he asked about invading Kuwait. Remember that ambassador's daughter complaining about babies thrown out of incubators? The kingdom of Kuwait, was saved from dangerous Democracy by the invasion. Somehow, all the fearless leaders were outside of the country when it was invaded. "Saddam bad!" Like ringing a bell and we all drool. Of course he was bad -- he worked for the Bush's.
Now we get down to who loves war, and tries to profit from it. 3 Books; "War is a Racket" by Smedley Butler. "Confessions of an Economic Hitman" -- which is starting to seem tame these days. And one that should be read just to get the list of names of people involved; "The Family" by Jeff Sharlet (I think that is the right one).
How can we have a Prez who has family money involved in groups that clean up wars, and those who sell weapons (Carlysle), and even have moved their assets to a foreign land (Dubai). Oh, did everyone know they now have Nukes? Apparently it is no big deal, unless the CorpGov rings the "Oooh, Scary" bell. - gandhii, on 05/28/2008, -0/+14Ya'll are confusing Iraq and Iran.
- pintomp3, on 05/28/2008, -3/+17ahh yes. the space gun. i believe that was made be ACME.
- junkwheel, on 05/28/2008, -1/+15And whoops, Iran stopped trading their oil in dollars!
They have gone to the euro!
As did Saddam! (before he was hung) - inactive, on 06/30/2008, -2/+15How? This is the only way we know how, by informing everybody. Maybe we'll get a miracle and the average sheeple will take notice and start to worry like we do.
- inactive, on 05/28/2008, -0/+13Cheney recently purchased a huge compound in Dubai and I'm sure he'll have Blackwater type "security" protecting him. He's already planned his escape, have you?
- inactive, on 05/28/2008, -0/+12they were not voted in... see florida 2000
- Cuchanu, on 05/28/2008, -0/+12It seems to be a common mistake for people that don't like him, yet people that are going to vote for him never make that mistake.
- buggles, on 05/28/2008, -2/+14So that's how they know Iran is building nuclear weapons. They are a customer!
Hey, I just had a brainstorm. Stop their program by NOT SELLING THEM THE PARTS.
Our government is a bunch of dicks. Republicans, Democrats, all of them. Elect Ron Paul. - inactive, on 05/28/2008, -1/+12"Cheney was the chief executive of Halliburton Corporation at the time he uttered those words. It was Cheney who directed Halliburton toward aggressive business dealings with Iran—in violation of U.S. law—in the mid-1990s, which continued through 2005 and is the reason Iran has the capability to enrich weapons-grade uranium.
It was Halliburton’s secret sale of centrifuges to Iran that helped get the uranium enrichment program off the ground, according to a three-year investigation that includes interviews conducted with more than a dozen current and former Halliburton employees.
If the U.S. ends up engaged in a war with Iran in the future, Cheney and Halliburton will bear the brunt of the blame.
But this shouldn’t come as a shock to anyone who has been following Halliburton’s business activities over the past decade. The company has a long, documented history of violating U.S. sanctions and conducting business with so-called rogue nations. "
I don't get how any conservative can justify supporting this government. - Crowlos, on 05/28/2008, -3/+14It's time to prosecute Dick Cheney and Haliburton for war crimes.....
- RandomGorilla, on 05/29/2008, -0/+11"They have advanced weapons of mass destruction."
"How do you know that for sure?"
"We have the receipt." - inactive, on 05/28/2008, -0/+10wasn't that from Lord of War?
- Jexie, on 05/28/2008, -0/+10Iraq let the inspectors in and look how much good that did. Besides, why should a country allow the US to inspect their military capabilities at will? Maybe the US should allow China to come in and have a look around their own military installations then.
- Ellipsys, on 05/29/2008, -0/+10I'm not sure where you live, but if you do so in europe ,there may come a time that a handful of us get fed up enough to come over and ask you for aid, just like we did with the French in the 1700s. Sometimes I think that's really the only way that a system so entrenched will ever be changed.
- Hetman, on 05/28/2008, -1/+10So just like Iraq we know they have WMD's because we gave it to them. Even though there were no wmd's in Iraq at the time we invaded. We still gave help and technology to Iraq and they used it to commit genocide on the Kurds.
- buckrogers1965, on 05/29/2008, -0/+9Yeah, and president Eisenhower warning us about the military industrial complex was crazy too, I bet. You just keep on with your loony faith that all is well.
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/ike.htm
Until the latest of our world conflicts, the United States had no armaments industry. American makers of plowshares could, with time and as required, make swords as well. But now we can no longer risk emergency improvisation of national defense; we have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions. Added to this, three and a half million men and women are directly engaged in the defense establishment. We annually spend on military security more than the net income of all United States corporations.
This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence – economic, political, even spiritual – is felt in every city, every Statehouse, every office of the Federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society.
In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.
We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together. - rewinn, on 05/28/2008, -1/+10No. In 1996 Dick Cheney, the same one who is Bush's VP, did it.
- junkwheel, on 05/28/2008, -1/+106. Iran has oil.
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