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- adamh227, on 10/11/2007, -16/+167Tony Snow is a joke. I don't know how that douchebag sleeps at night.
- theNazz, on 10/11/2007, -11/+130'Scooter' gets convicted of obstruction of justice charges and this ***** stands there like it was a ***** jay walking ticket...
- Arkonnan, on 10/11/2007, -7/+98Well, this is quite a break from tradition. Usually, the Press Corps can't wait to get in line to tickle his ass and balls for fear that they'll lose their precious White House access if they step out of line.
I expect that these intrepid reporters will not be asked to come back next time. Can't have dissent among the ranks, can we? - qdkk, on 10/11/2007, -18/+76Tony Snow-job.
- mattgo, on 10/11/2007, -2/+57here's a YouTube link.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Owb6w0fxkbM - Dannychico, on 10/11/2007, -11/+61Mouth of Sauron.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -6/+56It's a "nuance" that Scooter gets effectively pardoned and yet our jails are filled with repeat pot possession offenders.
I think lady justice might be peeking through her blindfold. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -3/+52Tony Snow gets this kind of reaction all the time, and its what he's paid to do. He's just running interference.
If the Press Corps really had any cojones, they would go much further than this. - redd2600, on 10/11/2007, -8/+56I wouldn't call that an ass handing.
- RoroCo, on 10/11/2007, -3/+35I would imagine that he is the little spoon to W's big spoon. How else would he sleep?
- Shaman760, on 10/11/2007, -7/+39You bushbots need to get over the Clinton thing. Bush ran on the party wings of "morality and sanity" and yet he brings us:
Hundreds of thousands dead
Obstruction of justice
spying on Americans
lying to the american public
pissing of the world - futuretense, on 10/11/2007, -3/+31that was not an ass handing. those were at best given the situation meek responses.
- NikhilPK, on 10/11/2007, -6/+34I hate this *****.
- spraguep, on 10/11/2007, -5/+29As usual someone is comparing a blowjob/lie to uncovering a CIA agent and then obstructing the investigation. Clinton didn't compromise the status of several groups of agents working overseas. The Bush administration did.
- Terr01, on 10/11/2007, -4/+26"Nuance" has it's place. For example, when explaining to someone how chemical weapons created by insurgents after the fall of Saddam aren't relevant to whether the original invasion was justified.
Snow's not using "nuance".
TRANSCRIPT:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/07/20070703-6.html
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MR. SNOW: It said that, in fact, the -- consistent with the guidelines that it talked about, for the general use of guidelines in mitigated circumstances, and it goes in some length into those considerations.
Q I'd like to know, if someone else perjures himself, someone unknown to the President, does the President believe that prison time for that offense is excessive?
MR. SNOW: It depends on the circumstances surrounding the case.
Q And so what is it about these circumstances that --
MR. SNOW: I'm not going to get you -- beyond what we've said, I'm just not going to play the game.
Q But is one day, even one day in prison excessive for this kind of a crime? I mean, people have spent time in prison for --
MR. SNOW: No, no -- this crime. This crime.
Q This crime, yes.
MR. SNOW: Not this kind of crime; this crime.
Q One day is too much for this particular crime?
MR. SNOW: The President decided that it was too much for this one.
Q Why not some jail time served, as was --
MR. SNOW: Tell me why.
Q I'm asking you.
MR. SNOW: No, it sounds to me like --
Q -- obstruction of justice, is why --
MR. SNOW: You don't think --
Q -- convicted of obstruction of justice.
Q For lying, perjury.
Q Perjury.
Q He was convicted of -- am I right? He was convicted of obstruction of justice.
Q He was convicted of perjury. He lied about leaking.
MR. SNOW: -- running high in the press room today.
Q No, you're trying to take the logical and change it around and make -- you're insulting our intelligence.
MR. SNOW: No, I don't think so. What I've tried to do is to insert a little nuance into a conversation that continues to try to create broad generalizations that can be used, frankly, to twist the case out of context. - swrostmore, on 10/11/2007, -2/+23"How could there have been obstruction of justice if the prosecutor already knew who had outed Plame?" Ask the JUDGE and JURY who CONVICTED HIM, *****!
- geometry, on 10/11/2007, -2/+20I agree. How surprising to see reports actually asking follow up questions and not letting them get away with their normal ***** answers.
- MacEnvy, on 10/11/2007, -1/+18So I guess we're the hobbits in this scenario? Coulter is an orc, and O'Reilly and Limbaugh are Uruk'hai?
I bet Dennis Kucinich is a dwarf. - drmobutu, on 10/11/2007, -2/+19I guess they were afraid that if Libby spent any time behind bars, he might feel "forsaken" by the administration, and start talking about all the OTHER stuff he was in on...
- SenorCardgage74, on 10/11/2007, -1/+18So are you
- ElGuano, on 10/11/2007, -1/+18Ahem. Clinton didn't commute his own sentence. Nor did he fail to serve time because someone who was not a presiding judge/senate body decide unilaterally that jail time would be "excessive." If you're going to use creationist argumentation tactics, at least vindicate them by attempting logic and relevance.
- thienrry, on 10/11/2007, -1/+17It is a link to the video...
- Zoshchenko, on 10/11/2007, -5/+19Snow sold out when he accepted this job. He deserves the same contempt and scorn everyone else in this corrupt administration receives. The press should rip him a new one every time he opens his mouth to spread another lie.
- WazzaM, on 10/11/2007, -4/+17John Stewart should be asking the questions... He calls a LIAR a LIAR !
- Tippis, on 10/11/2007, -1/+13Meh... at least the MoS was clever and innovative...
- taswizard, on 10/11/2007, -4/+16Finally the reporters are really tearing into the White House Press.
Hopefully this is the beginning trend of the end for this administration. - MacEnvy, on 10/11/2007, -1/+13The media outlets have already done the polling. Bush is at something like a 22% approval on this particular issue - even lower than his overall %. The media isn't going to rock the boat with 78% against the commution.
- dggeek, on 10/11/2007, -0/+11Based on your past posts, I think you'd say that for any situation short of him stabbing one of the press corps.
- jdstorer2, on 10/11/2007, -0/+11STOP IT! Start taking responsibility for the god damn president YOU elected into office!
- mace2, on 10/11/2007, -2/+13Upside down.
- spongeworthy, on 10/11/2007, -2/+13If there's a Hall of Fame for being full of crap, this guy goes in first. He's the Michael Jordan, Wayne Gretzky, and Babe Ruth of being full of *****.
- rald84, on 10/11/2007, -2/+12... on a big pile of money, of course!
- Niallgriff, on 10/11/2007, -1/+11Why is he trying to make this seem like a complex event? It isn't.
Also why is everyone acting surprised by this? Did anyone honestly think Cheney's friend would actually go to jail? - AgentDale, on 10/11/2007, -1/+11The big quote was he was insulting their intelligence. It took them this long to notice? He's been doing that since the first day on the job.
- Shmoo, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9The press didn't seem particularly well versed in the subject either unfortunately. More than a little dissapointing.
- Sertorius, on 10/11/2007, -0/+9Folks, Thomas Jefferson enunciated in the Declaration of Independence, the 231st anniversary we celebrate tomorrow, that if a government isn't doing its job for the common good, than it is incumbent upon the citizenry to overthrow it and establish another one. Why in the hell are we wasting time questioning a forked-tongue like Snow?
- lordmike, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8Umm... yeah, they did.. a lot... That's why Mike McCurry quit... perhaps you were watching Fox News and were ill informed of the situation.
- sancho320, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8or Firefox apparently
- Niallgriff, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8This has nothing to with Bill Clinton, he has not been President for quite some time now...
- JimV, on 10/11/2007, -5/+12I'm getting pretty sick of the people who use the "you're using the 'but, but...Clinton' excuse" as a cop-out when someone brings up something about Clinton. Dammit, both presidents are/were *****.
- pdbailey, on 10/11/2007, -1/+8You forgot that your supposed to use a line about how there was, "no underlying crime." Be sure to work that into your future astroturf.
- Serifos, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7Yes yes, just because other presidents pardoned people (with possible reason--your link doesn't give any actual details of the cases) makes it okay for this one to commute the sentence of a political friend for political reasons.
- GreyICE, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7As usual, conservative propaganda. Find a Democrat that did something superficially similar to the situation the Republican is responsible for, say the Democrats have no ground to stand on.
In this case, Clinton never pardoned someone who was accused of obstructing justice while protecting his administration. That's a very personal relationship, almost makes it look like Libby took the fall for the people in the administration who were actually responsible, then Bush bailed him out, doesn't it? But yeah, Clinton pardoned some people who he had nothing to do with, obviously the same... if you're a neocon spin artist. - stepnw1f, on 10/11/2007, -20/+27Fox News + RNC.
nuff said - Terr01, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7Just to nitpick about "unchallengeable"... He can most certainly be impeached over his choice of pardons.
- ElGuano, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6Right, but as you mentioned before, those are PARDONS, not commutations. Also, pardons are given for a number of reasons, but generally NOT because a president feels that a a federal judge's sentence falling within sentencing guidelines are too "excessive" for his tastes.
- Snowspot, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7I'm pretty sure most of these people served some sort of jail time. It's also unprecedented how the administration seems to be able to do all they want. So if Dick Cheney is impeached tomorrow or any of these people are sent to jail...Bush can just give them a get out of jail free card and no one will challenge it.
- Squarsh, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6Yeah. That makes it OK I guess. As long as Clinton did something similar, it's fair game. In fact, why just Clinton? Let's start comparing Bush to Taft. Taft was pretty worthless, so I guess that gives Bush license to be the same... just like he is.
- mikelieman, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5Why would someone *SUPPOSEDLY* in favor of MANDATORY MINIMUM SENTENCES commute or pardon anyone?
It goes right to Bush's lack of integrity and honor. - Ninja337, on 10/11/2007, -3/+8Breakfast of Champions
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