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- BXRWXR, on 08/08/2008, -6/+128That we even have to discuss this at all means the terrorists have already won.
- Subriot, on 08/08/2008, -2/+121Just make a folder on your desktop named "Terrorist Plans" and fill it with rickrolls, goatse, tubgirl, meatspin, etc.
- rcrabb, on 08/08/2008, -1/+67What is even the point of searching laptops at borders or airports? Is it to prevent certain data from entering the country? It can far more easily be encrypted and transmitted over the internets. Is it to recognize terrorists as they try to cross the border? Any terrorist worth his salt won't carry incriminating evidence on his person.
Is there any evidence of such a search ever preventing a crime? I'm sure there must be a reason that the Constitution gives the power of rule-making to the Congress, and not some lame-brain departments. - aimhelix, on 08/08/2008, -1/+62Sweet.. I'm going to screenshot my desktop full of files and folders and set it as my wallpaper... and then have them wonder why the hell the shortcuts or folders wont open up when they double click it and watch them for hours trying to figure it out. Should be fun.
- throop77, on 08/08/2008, -1/+56The DHS is the definition of government bloat. A whole department created with no real purpose but to try and justify themselves. They need to do that so they can claim they are doing something.
- Ubermann, on 08/08/2008, -1/+54There was a decision made... back in 1791 - it's called The Bill of Rights.
Amendment 4: The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. - inactive, on 08/07/2008, -1/+51You can bet this issue will be decided by the Supreme Court.
- 89greener, on 08/08/2008, -2/+46My laptop has full hard disk encryption. I'm willing to rot in a cell for the simple pleasure of knowing that without my password, their attempts are futile.
- VAXcat, on 08/08/2008, -0/+36 HA! We were having a panic at work about porn on people's PCs. The head of security laucned a pogram and started regularly scanning workstations for porn.
One wag here created a folder labelled "hard core pornographic images". In it he put one file - a jpg of the security chief. He got yelled at for that stunt, but became a hero to his coworkers. - wunksta, on 08/07/2008, -3/+38ridiculous
- slappy83, on 08/08/2008, -1/+33Am I committing a crime if I have pictures of myself pissing on a hooker?
- inactive, on 08/08/2008, -5/+37sure you would tough guy
- BooLag, on 04/23/2009, -2/+31Ever walked the plank?
ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!! - ileftfark, on 08/08/2008, -3/+29Sounds like someone's been waterboarded.
- fuzzmeister, on 08/08/2008, -2/+26If we got to the point where American citizens are being waterboarded upon entering the country, we have bigger problems than laptops being searched.
- Lyk4n, on 08/08/2008, -1/+24My plan is just take a high res picture of my privates and put it as my background on my laptop right before I go through security. If they look at my computer they won't want to again!
- qdkk, on 08/08/2008, -6/+29I'm not so certain that this Supreme Court (read neocon cronies) won't make an activist rule against the People's Fourth Amendment right.
- SilverBlade2k, on 08/08/2008, -1/+23Use True Crypt (Which is free!). One feature of it is that it creates a 'false OS'. Give them the password to the 'false OS' and they will see nothing is in there worth anything.
Or just not take a laptop along (Which would kill business travel, but if Homeland Security wants to kill business travel....this is the way to do it) - dondara, on 08/08/2008, -0/+20So now the idiots feel that information is a threat? Since legal documents are protected by lawyer/client privilege I predict a quick end to this ...just kidding. Lawyers will get a pass at the border while the rest of the rabble get our rights trampled under the boot, as usual.
I have to go with BXRWXR on this one, the terrorists have already won. - Ledfndr, on 08/08/2008, -0/+20wow, ASCII fail :(
- RUFuKinCrazy, on 08/08/2008, -7/+26I would not be so sure about that.
- RajAtWork, on 08/08/2008, -2/+21the real purpose is to play "copyright police". They are interested in (and can fine you) for any digital copies (music, dvds, etc.) that they _think_ you illegally have.
- McBradd, on 08/08/2008, -3/+21Pedo Bear's Laptop MUST NOT be searched!
- inactive, on 08/08/2008, -0/+17Homeland security can get ***** and so can all of the idiots of this country who work for them. They can't even develop a sound reason for their illegal searches. They just keep saying ***** reasons. DHS should be abolished immediately.
- DarkSideofMoon, on 08/08/2008, -0/+16I don't get it.
The leaders of the United States say they're bringing "freedom" to other countries, but why have their own citizens lost so much of their own? - inactive, on 08/08/2008, -1/+16Mister President You can take this laptop from my cold, dead, cheeto covered hands!
- fluffyturtle, on 08/08/2008, -0/+14They would think the laptop is not functional and is instead a bomb.
- Ubermann, on 08/08/2008, -1/+15Amendment 4: The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
- Dwebtron, on 08/08/2008, -1/+14he's right. The fact that we "have to help Homeland Security understand why they're wrong" means the Terrorists have won. Of course homeland security knows it's wrong, they just want us to believe they don't. Anybody know anything about Joesph Stalin? Last semester I had a European History class (1914 - present... but the professor stopped at the end of WWII) where we would watch videos about the major WWII dictators. In the video about Stalin, there was an entire 10 minutes dedicated to the Russian propaganda machine. Apparently Stalin's propaganda worked so well that most people in the country believed that "If only Stalin knew of the gulag or our starvation. He'd fix it all for us! If only someone could tell him!" Obviously Stalin was behind both of those things.
The way I see it, history just repeated itself. - wexmajor, on 08/08/2008, -2/+15Why the ***** do I have to waste my valuable time and effort "helping" some megalomaniacal jackasses understand why they're fascist sacks of ***** that pose more of a threat to our country than any terrorist ever could? Why are they not already in jail!? Don't we have some kind of check or balance system that's supposed to lock people up when they take a ***** all over the constitution?
- BXRWXR, on 08/08/2008, -7/+20Ever been waterboarded?
- 5DMT, on 08/08/2008, -1/+13So how do they plan to copy every file off of a hard drive in any timely manner? The average laptop contains at least one hard drive ranging in size from 80 GB to 350GB. Please tell me how the DHS plans to copy the files off of every laptop that comes through? Anyone who has tried copying several Gigabytes lets say to your iPod knows that it takes a few hours to copy all of those files. And we all know how awesome the copy manager is in windows... Even utilities that ghost an HD can take over an hour or two PER DRIVE.
Not to mention the multitude of OS's and hardware platforms that are sure to cause incompatibility errors and delays. Not to mention that the people that work for DHS/TSA are complete idiots. Remember the story on digg a few months ago when the Apple Air came out? They didn't even know what it was! What a bad idea. Not only that, how can you justify confiscating people's belongings with out a warrant or probably cause?
Look what happens to people who give their computers to Bestbuy for repair! They get computers with missing ram, cables cut, missing hardware or hardware thats worse than what was in it. Not to mention the logistical nightmare. Where the ***** are they going to store thousands of laptops at the airport? They cant even find your luggage half the time. What makes you think that they are going to take better care with your $3000 laptop? Try telling Apple that the reason your screen is broken and your computers trashed is cause the TSA/DHS did it. Sure. Like that will work.
Not to mention the privacy implications and trouble this will cause for every businessman that travels. What good is an NDA if the gov't can just copy all of your files and keep them as long as they like? Whats to prevent that the files will be disposed of properly? I sure don't want some fat greasy security guard looking through my porno collection or my photos or music. Whats to stop these people from pirating your music. They would have full access to all of the media on every laptop that pass through an airport.
They just want to pass the legislation to further erode our rights. Next thing you know every OS will give direct access to the NSA to see what you see, copy files, delete files, steal passwords, check your browser history, and even take control of your computer. Forget impractical,.thats just ***** WRONG. - maxgoedjen, on 08/08/2008, -0/+12Just because we're encrypting our hard drives doesn't mean we have anything to hide. We just don't like people poking around in our *****.
- Lyk4n, on 08/08/2008, -2/+14I'm assuming they will likely be men, I am male. Most men don't like to look at other mens' penises. That aside, I am as ugly as sin itself.
- shredswithpiks, on 08/08/2008, -2/+14Dugg, but they missed the point that things should only be checked for immediate physical threads (like knifes, guns, explosives...). Physically checking your laptop (x-rays, dog sniffing, whatever) is fine.
Checking the data on the hard drive? No way.
Everyone should be writing their representatives about this. - kemp34, on 08/08/2008, -1/+13Department of Fatherland Security
- kokoshka, on 08/08/2008, -0/+11http://www.truecrypt.org/
- Cybermaul, on 08/08/2008, -4/+15Waterboarding for tubgirl? That stuff's pretty sick, but torture's pretty extreme for that kind of prank.
- shredswithpiks, on 08/08/2008, -0/+11Our checks and balances work like this:
you vote for representatives to run the country
they do whatever they want and screw up a bunch of stuff
in 2 to 4 years, you vote for someone else
they do the same thing
Our system is broken because the citizens have no immediate pushback against corruption in office. All we get to do is vote for someone else with the hopes that maybe, just maybe this dude won't be a fraud. - dafragsta, on 08/08/2008, -0/+11Do you have a ship that can make the Kessel run in 12 parsecs?
- SLockhart, on 08/08/2008, -1/+11You watch too many movies. True Crypt is totally free and has never been cracked by anyone anywhere.
- erikerikerik, on 08/08/2008, -0/+10Cliff: TSA agents in SFO dont like boarder patrol (DHS).
Funny recently on a flight I was traveling with 2 laptops and oodles of camera equipment and I'm red-flagged or "SSSSSSSS+'
and I strike up a conversation with the TSA agents. More then 1 was needed to go through every itty bitty bit of electronics equipment I had.
Back to the story, I asked them if there going to search my laptop? They looked at me like I was crazy. "nope, we just turn it on see it work turn it off"
I Then told them that when I enter the country that they (I assumed the TSA) could copy my hard drives, ipods (mpaa/riaa might something to say about this) phone, sim-card everything and the TSA agents looked at me with the most dirty look EVER and informed that "thats the Boarder Patrol *****,"
on the plus side I got to skip to the head off the line :D - maxgoedjen, on 08/08/2008, -1/+11@wuxia
I once had a teacher that kept a folder on his unix box, named 'CONFIDENTIAL,' filled with windows viruses, so that would-be crackers would end up with the same fate. - wrxpert, on 08/08/2008, -1/+11Now if you can figure out a way to make the webcam start recording as they turn it on.
- wexmajor, on 08/08/2008, -0/+10"Basically by choosing to cross an international border you agree to submit to the requirements of the border authority. If you don't like it don't cross."
IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE WAY THINGS ARE WHERE YOU LIVE THEN LEAVE
IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE ***** YOU HAVE TO PUT UP WITH IN ORDER TO LEAVE THEN STAY WHERE YOU ARE
Where exactly do you think this train of thought leads to? I guarantee it isn't freedom. - Asvetic, on 08/08/2008, -0/+9But doesn't the bill of rights apply to citizens of American whether they're in America or not, as long as they're under amnesty? So, if I'm in an US Customs agency, I'm technically protected by the bill of rights because I am a citizen of the US... or am I just talking out my ass here?
- iamgnat, on 08/08/2008, -1/+10So then rather sending you on your way (assuming there is no password that you are refusing to give up), they'll hand you over to local police for the likely violation of archaic decency laws.
Yeap, that'll show 'em.
If they want me to show them that my laptop indeed works and is not likely a bomb (battery jokes aside), i'm fine with that (on planes anyway). If they want to look at the data, they need a warrant/probable cause and won't get it out of my hands otherwise.
But the joy you get out of taunting the person doing the searching is probably only going to last until they A) arrest you on some stupid decency charge, B) just take ALL your digital devices and then never get around to returning them to you, or C) all of the above. - inactive, on 08/08/2008, -0/+9I think he's saying that if he rots in a cell, he'd ponder the reality of give a password or rot in a cell and never see family or friends again.
- inactive, on 08/08/2008, -0/+8Nailed it!
- kylere, on 08/08/2008, -0/+8When they outlaw laptops, only the outlaws will have laptops...I have an idea for a new business. For $5000 I will smuggled your laptop Hard drive in and out of the country for you!
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