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- ciaran036, on 11/21/2008, -4/+45We told you his policies would not be any different to Bush's!
But you didn't listen! - inactive, on 11/21/2008, -3/+40All roads lead to the same place.
bushobamaclintonville.
- CoolHandLuke70, on 11/21/2008, -1/+36Yeah Change! Wait until he starts! Of course there will be some circumstance to springboard off of like a new 9/11!
- meshelluh, on 11/20/2008, -2/+33WTF
- lazerus9, on 11/21/2008, -1/+28I know everyone on this thread already knows this, but the only thing that Obama will be choosing is his new puppy......and his daughters will probably pick that for him.
- kemp34, on 11/21/2008, -1/+26These Obama choices are appalling. I was holding out slim hope for him, but he's gone over the edge with these picks.
- ciaran036, on 11/21/2008, -1/+19Just after Bush is elected, 9/11 occurs. Just before he is elected again, the Madrid bombings occur. Just after he is elected again, the London bombings occur. Notice the close proximity between elections and terrorist attacks.
- twistaspliff, on 11/22/2008, -0/+17I'm always amazed by Americans who vote for either of the two official parties and think there is going to be some kind of difference between them. They are the same party with two different faces for the media. It's good cop bad cop, but they are both on the same team. They are two sides of the same coin, and that coin is in the Rothschilds pocket. When are you people going to finally figure out that you are being scammed? The "differences" between these parties are only for show on your propaganda machines. Time to wake up and smell the fascism.
- Beautyon, on 11/21/2008, -2/+19WTF did you expect?
- quesi, on 11/21/2008, -1/+17TFA:
U.S. policy is not about one individual, and no matter how much faith people place in President-elect Barack Obama, the policies he enacts will be fruit of a tree with many roots. Among them: his personal politics and views, the disastrous realities his administration will inherit, and, of course, unpredictable future crises.
they forgot to mention the predicted future crisis.... - sheeplescareme, on 11/21/2008, -4/+20and they still aren't listening. his troops are scampering about chanting "yes we can" and waving copies of the chosen one's holy books while arguing that the philosophy he wrote of in those pieces of drivel are what counts, and the fact that he is a war-mongering fool who has voted their civil liberties away whilst surrounding himself with other war-loving, freedom hating, constitution ignoring, washington criminals is irrelevant!
- inactive, on 11/21/2008, -0/+13Are his acolytes ever going to come down?
Or are they going to remain blind to reality and swoon in a blissful euforia at every pronoucemnt from the chosen one? - sheeplescareme, on 11/22/2008, -1/+13oh, they're flying high on hope! it has given them wings! though biden has already warned the enamoured followers that they will have to be prepared for some tough decisions and be willing to stand by their messiah as he is faced with a crisis. the followers chanted "yes we can!" for the messiah had spoken. when they are hungry, he shall give them bread, when they are thirsty, he shall give them wine, and if you're worried about your mortgage, he'll take care of that, too (right after he cures cancer and re-invents the wheel)! like a child believes in leprachauns and unicorns, his followers believe only sunshine and rainbows shall come from his reign.
- inactive, on 11/21/2008, -1/+13Don't blame me clarin036.
This isn't my mess, but it looks like we are all going to suffer. This man has an agenda to continue the militarization of US foreign policy, to continue to put Israel first before American interests, to continue to pursue globaist "free trade", but his agenda does not include protecting the liberty of Americans.
Woops, we did it again...... we listened to the "pundits" and f**ked ourselves again.... - censormagnet, on 11/22/2008, -1/+12change isnt always for the better
- inactive, on 11/28/2008, -0/+10Did I mention that he chucked the Palestinians under the bus?
http://whitehouseprotest.org/index.php/20081105170 ... - inactive, on 11/22/2008, -0/+10LOL @ bushobamaclintonville.
(CFR is the abbreviation) - quesi, on 11/21/2008, -1/+11not a nice place to visit, and you sure as H E Double Hockey Sticks don't want to live there!
- inactive, on 11/28/2008, -0/+9He's had his four years in the Senate. During that time he
1) voted to extend and expand the PATRIOT act 2) voted to expand warrentless wiretapping 3) has committed to the perpetual occupation of Iraq 4) threatened to nuke Iran 5) sucked up to the perfidious Israel Lobby 6) embraced the "clean coal" hoax 7) championed the wall street bailout ripoff, and still works for an even bigger ripoff 8) embraced Bush's tax cuts for the über-wealthy 9) in obedience to his sponsors at Exelon, champions construction of new nuke power plants
This list could easily go on to item 30 or 40, but I am so tired of doing the homework for everyone who should already know this *****. - inactive, on 11/22/2008, -0/+9Not that it matters much, but wouldn't elections (if they weren't fixed) be more fair if we knew who the cabinet members and main advisers would be before voting?
I've often wondered why we only vote for the Prez / vice prez, when there are so many more people that dictate policy (get to be puppets for our shadowy overlords) then just the Prez... Just doesn't seem fair.
(sarcastic) - inactive, on 11/28/2008, -1/+9I don't respect points of view that support warmongering, torture, imperialism. I don't respect points of view that attack our 4th amendment protections and subjugate the interests of the American people to the interests of corporate fatcats. I don't respect points of view that subjugate our national interest to that of a tiny country in the Levant.
Your screen name "eco57" is ironic. Are you trying to imply that Obama is somehow "pro-environmental"? What a laugh!
Obama fanboys are pathetic. They get all misty eyed and chant "change! change! change!" while their fact-free blubbering disgusts those of us that do the hard work of studying the issues. - quesi, on 11/22/2008, -2/+9and we don't actually vote for the President/Vice President, which makes it the more strange... our votes on those positions are to trick the People (who don't read the Constitution) into thinking we have a democracy. that's the awful joke, and it's on U.S.
- inactive, on 11/22/2008, -0/+7Feigned change we all believed in; feigned hope we all believed in.
- NonServium, on 11/22/2008, -0/+6And if people had been smart enough to vote for the person they wanted to become president instead of the lesser of the two evils which they thought could win, we'd be in perotnaderpaulville. According to some quantum physicists such a place exists in one of an infinite number of parallel universes. What did I do wrong to end up here instead of there?
- americangoy, on 11/22/2008, -1/+7goddamit.
i am a cynic but i was hoping against hope that obama would prove me wrong.
in anything.
that the hype was justified, even 5% of it.
sadly, the delusional americans got hoodwinked again.
hey idiots for obama - watch this:
http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=2nvbetio4fI
yes, an actual LIBERAL - not an obama democrat retard - speaking his mind.
an actual populist in America, speaking to idiots who do not understand 1% of what he is saying.
Preaching to the missing link in darwin's theory.
sad. - inactive, on 11/28/2008, -1/+7Don't even get me started on the hawkish neocon cabinet that has been appointed for him. Don't try to pretend that there is not already a reputation behind Barack Obama and it stinks to high heaven.
- inactive, on 11/28/2008, -1/+7Any factual information you'd like to offer? Specific predictions? Or are you just expressing an emotion? As usual, Obama fans are either a) incapable of real analysis or 2) choose to ignore facts
- ciaran036, on 11/22/2008, -1/+6Why the sarcasm?
- ciaran036, on 11/22/2008, -1/+6Political structures like these didn't fall together by chance.
And funnily enough there are exactly the same scenarios in the UK as well. For example, in Northern Ireland, the two main parties are the Democratic Unionist Party and Sinn Fein. Again, they are both right-wing and provide another illusion of opposites. One of them is made up entirely of Catholics and the other is made up entirely of Protestants. The result of this is a sectarian political deadlock which never ends. Nothing ever gets done. Just constant sectarian squabbling and bickering...just like the Republicans and Democrats really.
More of us need to start looking at the alternatives. The alternatives are by no means perfect but they are a vast improvement to the 'mainstream' parties. - ad33lshahid, on 11/28/2008, -0/+3called it
- inactive, on 11/27/2008, -1/+4Genuine leftists respond to Obama fans
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDOXkdyoMFc - inactive, on 11/28/2008, -1/+3Here's some more for Idiots for Obama:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDOXkdyoMFc
We genuine leftists promise to oppose with the greatest vigor this sham government. With every fiber of our being. - inactive, on 11/24/2008, -0/+2Yea, us humans are... well... human... not perfect by any means.
- bwisok, on 11/30/2008, -0/+1Excellent and informative:
I've been writing that the Freedom Movement needs to basically leapfrog what I'm calling the Obamanon (Obama phenomenon) and go straight to Constitutional liberty. I definitely believe, especially with what we're seeing in the O populating his leading edge with Kleptocon militarists, that the left and right will come together to insist on that change (toward peace and liberty) he was talking about.
http://www.brianrwright.com/Coffee_Coaster/01_Colu ...
Brian Wright - GrandmaSheila, on 11/28/2008, -2/+3Check out Cenk Uygur, it's great.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsQ3ZAW1E_8&NR=1 - Spartz, on 11/28/2008, -1/+1With these people chosen by Obama, change doesn't seem like such a great idea, right?
Guess who gave Obama and these people the permission to go change the US? Yep, the majority. *****. - eco57, on 11/28/2008, -1/+1@yellow -
"I don't respect points of view that support warmongering, torture, imperialism. I don't respect points of view that attack our 4th amendment protections and subjugate the interests of the American people to the interests of corporate fatcats. I don't respect points of view that subjugate our national interest to that of a tiny country in the Levant."
Cool - we agree on all those points.
"Your screen name "eco57" is ironic. Are you trying to imply that Obama is somehow "pro-environmental"? What a laugh!
Obama fanboys are pathetic. They get all misty eyed and chant "change! change! change!" while their fact-free blubbering disgusts those of us that do the hard work of studying the issues."
Gosh, I seem to have struck a nerve! Who's really being emotional here?? I'm sorely tempted to cross swords with you, but it would accomplish nothing. Just like this fractious style you have - with it you will accomplish NOTHING. Indeed, you'll make such an easy target for the right wing that you will set back your own goals for additional months, if not years. You are your own worst enemy.
Just to relieve you of some misconceptions, I'll let you in on something. Me, my wife, and my two daughters attended anti-war demonstrations held in Houston *prior to* the Iraq invasion. Let me tell you, they were really popular down here in Texas. LOL A massive outpouring of maybe...200, 250 tops - in a city of 4 million! Those were very disappointing days, and it's been mostly disappointing since. We've been to many demonstrations now, and I'm proud to have been able to share that experience with my daughters. It's just unfortunate we've been on the losing side for so long. But now, I think we have a chance to push back. And yeah, I'm allowing myself the luxury to hope. After so many disappointments, it feels pretty good. But that doesn't mean I'm not going to sit idly by when I perceive immorality or injustice. I will do whatever I can to support what is right. So you would do well to not alienate me, and others like me.
@GrandmaSheila -
Center-left you say? - ZZeke, on 11/28/2008, -2/+1It's as if the bush fans gave the obama fans their blinders and rose colored spectacles..."here, you're gonna need these now."!
- eco57, on 11/28/2008, -3/+2"Genuine leftists" (1) respect other (moral) points of view; and, (2) despise labels.
- thefredsociety, on 11/22/2008, -5/+2The Americans made the right decision, except they always had a choice between bad or worse.
Obama is just another politician with a second agenda. However, he has already changed the face of American politics abroad; rooting out foreign perception and having already created good, strong diplomatic ties is making his office look more and more hopeful. Lets hope it stays that way. - inactive, on 11/28/2008, -5/+2Give the man a chance! Fer krissakes!
- eco57, on 11/28/2008, -4/+1Mr1001nights' insipid delivery of doom and gloom bores Obama fans. :)
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