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- zlatinb, on 05/20/2008, -15/+332You have to love it when the guy who prosecuted Charles Manson is now thinking about Bush.
- inactive, on 05/20/2008, -29/+182Just murder?
You're leaving out so much.
Crimes against humanity (torture)
Treason (sending the military to die for false reasons)
Conspiracy (which was required to fabricate evidence)
I'm sure there's few more we can add. - inactive, on 05/20/2008, -9/+105Charles Manson was a charismatic leader. I don't think we can say the same for Bush.
- Krisgi, on 05/20/2008, -31/+125In Europe, there is a movement to have Bush and Cheney brought before The Hague -- the International Criminal Court.... just like they did with the Nazis in Nuremberg.
Bugliosi is the most brilliant attorney... Maybe he could represent us against Bush...
Bush might end up with an international search warrant if he steps outside the US in the future. Look what happened to Pinochet when he went to England! And it was a judge from Spain, who represented the victims of Pinochet´s regime, who started the whole thing and had him detained and extradited.
The same judge just did the exact thing with Peron´s widow. She had a whole bunch of murder and kidnapping charges pending in Argentina... Now she will stand trial. - oldhick, on 05/20/2008, -13/+88Good read. Its always one little point though that bothers me... The author rightfully makes the case that Bush should not only be impeached, but tried for murder IF he lied. The problem that the author completely ignores and so does nearly every other author is, how do you PROVE he lied.
Nearly every member of the bureaucracy and the administration that has spoken publicly discusses the complexities of the intelligence and the need for interpretation and ultimately lays the blame on failures in judgment. I wish someone would do a better job of PROVING he lied.
That is all the American people want is concrete, irrefutable evidence he actually LIED. - jhirsch4, on 05/20/2008, -23/+79***** bush
- dondara, on 05/20/2008, -3/+56He has experience with nutjobs, perfect guy for the case.
- Madoc, on 05/20/2008, -2/+36Politics aside, lying is not illegal; perjury is.
- inactive, on 05/20/2008, -16/+45This will probably work just as well as Bush's impeachment. How's that coming along, anyhow?
(insert fake outrage here) - swrostmore, on 05/20/2008, -3/+28This essay was disappointingly shallow, I was hoping for some explanation of the legal basis for murder charges, when the person being charged did not actually commit the murder (as is the case with both Bush and Manson).
- Hetman, on 05/20/2008, -5/+29I do not know see how you could actually prove that Bush willingly lied to the American public. I am not saying he didnt. It just seems like it would be very difficult to prove that he intentionally lied to the American people to start an illegal war.
- inactive, on 05/20/2008, -24/+43Digg is really slipping. Here's the quintessential anti-Bush article and it has yet to make the front page after being submitted almost 22 hours ago. I thought with a title like this it would hit the front within 3 minutes. Maybe the submitter should find a story calling for a public lynching. That would certainly get the diggs.
- Smuikas, on 05/20/2008, -3/+19Evidence is tried in court. We can't look obliquely at the evidence until it is laid out in court.
There is more than enough evidence to pass a Grand Jury - what I want to see is an actual trial. Whether or not he lied and the evidence thereof is not something that can typically be used to convince a grand jury to turn down a case. Imagine this:
Man shoots wife. Gun is wiped clean, but found in his car under the seat. Back of the car is covered in her blood. He reported the car stolen six hours before killing her. She had been cheating on him.
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He comes before the grand jury and says, "but I MIGHT not have done it!" the grand jury says, "Well, yeah, you might not have - but that's for the jury to decide! there's more than enough evidence here to go to trial."
Grand jury does not say, "Ok, you might not have. We've only heard a little bit of evidence, but you seem like a nice guy even though you deliberately mislead investigators with suitably vague rhetoric, so we won't even send you to court." - AirRaven, on 05/20/2008, -5/+21The key difference between Pinochet and Bush being that *Bush* leads a nation with over twenty thousand armed nuclear warheads.
- wacomwacoff, on 05/20/2008, -4/+20That's not the way it works. If a leader offers up false information to mislead people into voting the way he wants them to vote, and the lies are uncovered later, then he's responsible for his actions, not the people he misled.
- kooky, on 05/20/2008, -0/+15He also wrote a book about how the OJ prosecutors messed up, and another book about how the Kennedy assassination was not a conspiracy. Both books were fantastic.
- smacksaw, on 05/20/2008, -11/+25It's funny, because going to war is an excuse - mitigating circumstances. Of course the people who appealed to him to commute their executions had an excuse. They had mitigating circumstances. He just didn't care to weigh them against his desire for punishment.
It's impossible to be pro-death and not be a hypocrite. There are always exceptions to the rule, but those exceptions define how much of a hypocrite a person is. We're all guilty of being hypocrites. And if we can't be hypocritical once in a while you become fanatical. Fanatical in your inflexible beliefs. Bush is not only fanatical, but he's hypocritical. Both to an extreme, and that's the worst. You simply cannot execute all of these people accepting no excuses (152 of 153) and yet expect us to buy your excuses about being wrong on Iraq. - Amazetbm, on 05/20/2008, -6/+19Only until Jan 20th, 2009. After that he's a private citizen again.
- swrostmore, on 05/20/2008, -4/+17The US military doesn't estimate civilian casualties, you know that, Jim. And the Iraqi government that was placed in power by way of this war isn't exactly an unbiased source either (they estimate 150,000).
- pakruse, on 05/20/2008, -0/+13To fall under the jurisdiction of the ICC, a case must meet one of the following (according to the Rome Statute):
- The accused must be a national of an ICC member state;
- The alleged crime must be committed on the territory of an ICC member state; or
- The case is referred to the ICC by the UN Security Council
It seems unlikely that the third will occur, and as neither the US nor Iraq are or were members of the ICC, the court has no jurisdiction. - h3lx, on 05/20/2008, -2/+15After hearing the interview with Douglas Feith on the John Stewart show where he(Douglas) knowingly admits that the misdirection was intentional to support the overall perceived immediate threat that led us into this war, Bush did undoubtedly lie.
It's not a failure of judgement to omit scenarios better represented by current intelligence and replace it with 'questionable' information previously refuted by the intelligence community simply because it further supports your intentions to go to war. That whole 'mushroom cloud' bit, preached from every pulpit is fairly concrete. - jer2eydevil88, on 05/20/2008, -2/+15http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_and_weapons_of_m ...
Please enlighten me on the evidence we found that was relevant to the 2003 invasion? The only evidence we found in Iraq was that the weapons program had pretty much ceased operations by 1991.
I don't drink the kool aid but then again I actively spoke out against Bush and the war in the 2004 elections. - delvach, on 05/20/2008, -1/+13Why do we keep calling it a 'war'? Isn't it an occupation? Our country invaded a sovereign nation. Our nation maintains a military presence while it assembles the 'local' government. It never garnered international support because it did not meet the justifications for declaring war, correct?
- bobjohnsonmilw, on 05/20/2008, -8/+19I wish I truly had the freedom to type what I believe should be done to him.
As one of my favorite Sopranos lines goes, "It won't be cinematic".
Actually as to proving that he lied, which is a good point: Why can't we just waterboard the truth out of him? He authorized it. - Digger1218, on 05/20/2008, -8/+18"In Europe, there is a movement to have Bush and Cheney brought before The Hague -- the International Criminal Court.... just like they did with the Nazis in Nuremberg."
Yeah, good luck with that. - inactive, on 05/20/2008, -9/+19The US doesn't recognize the ICC and any attempt at forcing him to appear before them would be an act of kidnapping.
- Smuikas, on 05/20/2008, -2/+12"There is no evidence that this war is anything but a bad decision or a mistake."
Read that sentence again -- you typed it. Let me reword it so you can understand what it means:
"This war is a bad decision and a mistake. I have no evidence that proves otherwise."
Let's break down the grammar of your sentence so you can see what this means.
"anything but a bad decision or a mistake": anything except a bad decision or a mistake; as in, something that is not a bad decision or mistake. This phrase means, basically, "Good decision."
Now, let's replace that in the sentence:
"There is no evidence that this war is a good decision."
There you go. ***** plebeian. - m4lomb, on 05/20/2008, -4/+14I dont believe in the death penalty. Bush should be in Guantanamo bay and Bill Clinton should follow. Those who violate our civil liberties do not deserve their own.
- csm888, on 05/20/2008, -7/+16Aren't the US voters who voted him in for a second term also culpable?
- TritonVision, on 05/20/2008, -1/+10oh Just Shut Up.
- inactive, on 05/20/2008, -2/+10He will never be a private citizen. He will always be a former President with a Secret Service detail to protect him.
How are you going to feel when some idiot from the ICC comes to arrest him and things get violent? - salinemist, on 05/20/2008, -2/+10Which is one of things Clinton was impeached for.
- darkcooger, on 05/20/2008, -2/+10It would be difficult to prove, but since there is reasonable suspicion, it's worth taking it to trial.
- jer2eydevil88, on 05/20/2008, -1/+9Glad someone else actually remembers why Clinton was impeached. I was afraid it was lost to the masses on Digg.
- onawaz, on 05/20/2008, -1/+8Where to I sign. I am all for it. Such deciept, disregard for constitution, law, people and human life should not be let unchecked. These people are a disgrace to humanity with the endless greed and selfcenteredness.
- 55mph, on 05/20/2008, -2/+9You get over it!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=-PCr8CyG1Sg&feature=rel ...
You have been sold out by the Globalists. They count on your national patriotic idiocy to advance their agenda. Keep up the good work azzwipe. - LMControl, on 05/20/2008, -3/+10Yeah... that impeachment is coming any day now.... I can feel it.
- delvach, on 05/20/2008, -1/+8True, but Bush has Manson's body count beat hands-down.
- Nanite, on 05/20/2008, -2/+9I'm sure there's miles and miles of fraud in all of his business dealings, all of his old companies went under.
Not to mention the croniyism, but is that illegal?
He also completely ruined the Texas Rangers for years to come! And yet he is still treated like a hero here, i just don't get it... - TheInfamousOne, on 05/20/2008, -3/+10Honestly curious about the evidence we found? I've never saw anything about it on the internet or news. I'd like the chance to read about it if someone has a link.
- Hetman, on 05/20/2008, -0/+6The congress and senate has also failed us. The reason e have three branches of the government is so things like this do not happen. If you prosecute the president, you must also prosecute the senate and congress. Because they allowed this to happen and are just as much responsible as Bush.
- diskit, on 05/20/2008, -8/+14Good luck with that...
- GhostyBoy, on 05/20/2008, -15/+21I recommend the gallows.
- Merendino, on 05/20/2008, -2/+8ZING!
- sodade, on 05/20/2008, -1/+7In the years to come, as all the blowback for our insane foreign policy keeps coming back, we will learn that these actions truly were treasonous. Just like Operation Ajax, which kicked off 60 years of criminal US foreign policy.
- MoofTheStoof, on 05/20/2008, -1/+714? Must have been a late bloomer...
- thedogfatherx, on 05/20/2008, -6/+12Give it up guy. Give it up.
- jennicamorel, on 05/20/2008, -3/+9This news story is the first one that ever made me sick to my stomach because of Bush. Mimicking someone who's begging for her life? Isn't that something that only 3rd world nations do?
- DownkeyKowng, on 05/20/2008, -4/+10Poisoning Gotham's water supply with a psychotropic hallucinogen.. a panic inducing toxin.
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