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- duggtodeath, on 10/10/2007, -19/+102Christ, as a Christian, the right's hijacking of my religion is sad and really angers me. I love how the right always wants to tell us who is attacking us. 10 years from now, when we all forget terrorism, they will just turn our attention to a new 'threat'.
- wwwspirit, on 10/10/2007, -25/+79Christian extremists in America are the best recruiting tool atheism has! When I see how Christian jihadists have twisted everything around, it makes me sick.
- aliengoods, on 10/10/2007, -8/+53You're ignorant to think anything that's been done in the last 6 years has been to stop terrorism. The thousands that have died have died for nothing. Yes, I said nothing. The closest they've come to putting a dent into terrorism has been Afghanistan, and the Taliban is regaining ground there. The Right needs terrorism to keep their God-fearing masses scared, and they'll keep letting people die so the threat seems real.
- Dumbledorito, on 10/10/2007, -8/+45I just wish Christmas would get back to being after Thanksgiving instead of starting about a week before Halloween.
- Apokalyps2547, on 10/10/2007, -13/+47The article bashes the FAR-RIGHT for corrupting Christianity and the way it's percieved in the US.
It's not attacking CHRISTIANITY. - DeFex, on 10/10/2007, -11/+41I have yet to hear about a christian dragged behind a bus, burned at the stake, shot, or pilloried by an athiest.
- kufu91, on 10/10/2007, -1/+25you are ignorant to think that the threat of communism is going away, and you dishonor the thousands that have died.
/sarcasm - Bamborzled, on 10/10/2007, -7/+28I love how you associate liberalism with the Democratic Party, attempting to turn this into a partisan issue. I guess the right is very adept at doing that.
- Scynet, on 10/10/2007, -4/+24The article doesn't seem to have anything against christians. You didn't even read it did you? You just saw the word "cristianity" and immediately withdrew into your protective flamewar-suit, didn't you? That's not helping at all.
- ToxicBomber, on 10/10/2007, -8/+27The "Christian-bashing" on Digg, and in more highly populated societies (i.e. cities, counties, states, etc. places of high diversity and more education...) in America really is a problem. Speaking as an atheist, in a perfect world there would be no need for people to have to feel they need to rely on religion to make sense of their lives. The lack of respect though towards one religion is really starting to make me angry. Having grown up in a very christian family, a true christian family, I know very well how much good comes from those within the religion. Sadly now there are all of these "bad apples" causing all the anger and discontent in this country toward Christians, from more and more people everyday and it just isn't right. The problem is when these people that are obviously doing things that most of civilized society can agree is really wrong and "immoral" in a sense, quoting their reasons and justifications "in the name of the lord". Bombing "clinics", mass murders, hate crimes, discrimination, sexism, bigotry....these things are always in the media limelight and spread like wild fire on the Internet. It may be a generalization to say but the majority of them are christian extremists! You don't hear about the non-denominational good they do, like build homes, help the needy, support families who have lost everything in floods, fires, disasters (i.e. Katrina). When was the last time CNN did a brief report on stuff like that? Never...its always the bad apples doing thins in the name of YOUR lord. The only way your gonna stop the "War on Christians" is to fix your image and support anything you can to boost the good, and alleviate the bad. Talk more about the good things YOU did, and not the good things Jesus wants us "non-believers" to do. do some good based on the teachings from Jesus, not your or anyone else's misguided "interpretations" of the bible. "Lost in Translation" comes to mind when that happens. Sorry to say this is all on the "few" good ones left (I say that in sarcasm as I know from my own experiences that the good far outnumber the bad) to fix, but your gonna have to really try.
- toast1226, on 10/10/2007, -2/+20I'm a Christian myself and I do believe there are many other "Christians" (whether they are or not) who make rash decisions and generally set a bad example for the world to see. The problem with some Christians is they read/see something and act on it immediately without thinking of the whole picture/scenario presented to them.
To effectively spread the Christian faith is not as simple as many Christians think. It takes tolerance and acceptance, as well as ensuring that you don't impose on other's beliefs and still get the message through to those who want to hear it.
Because many Christians are thinking for what they think is the greater good, and they are only trying to help. It's just sometimes we approach things the wrong way.
Just my thought. - MJG2007, on 10/10/2007, -10/+27Many Christians suffer from "persecution envy". They cannot distinguish between a teacher in a public school not being allowed to preach the gospel and being throw to the lions for entertainment of the pagans. Any excuse to claim they are spat upon (despite the fact that upwards of 70% of the population of the United States identifies as Christian and that there is a Christian church on practically every corner in America) is seized upon to bear witness to how they are a persecuted majority. That whole idiocy with clerks saying "Happy Holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas" was made out to be the equivalent of being hung on a cross and beaten to death (regardless of the fact that they don't seem to realize that it's highly presumptuous to assume that the customer is Christmas celebrating Christian).
It's just silly. A lot of it goes back to the bible claiming that Christians will be persecuted for their beliefs so they pounce on any excuse to claim they are being persecuted and it gets to the point that it just becomes laughable and tedious to hear them going on and on and on about how horrible they have it. - yeahitismeagain, on 10/10/2007, -6/+21As a Canadain I am amazed at how every issue in the U.S. of A. is a politically charged, emotional, and adversarial event. Wow. Everything is so black and white, us or them, all or nothing...
Anyway, persecution of Christians all over the world is underreported in the West. Take a look at http://www.persecution.net/ to get some idea. The killing of thousands because of faith is real. - Leach, on 10/10/2007, -9/+24It's amazing how Christians can practically run my government while at the same time claiming to be victims of it.
- murphygr, on 10/10/2007, -6/+19i'm a Christian. i don't agree with 99% of what these vocal Christians say. it's called extremism and it's bad with anything. extreme liberals, conservatives, christians, muslims. i don't feel under attack and i don't listen to anything extremists say
- Bamborzled, on 10/10/2007, -3/+15I fail to see how an article about the right's attempts to influence Christians is an attack on Christianity itself. Do people just go to Digg articles about Christians and automatically assume it's an article that attacks Christianity?
- dillibob, on 10/10/2007, -0/+11remember the war on communism? neither do i
- MJG2007, on 10/10/2007, -0/+11I concluded a few years ago that a consistently vocal group of Christians isn't happy unless they have some reason to claim they are being persecuted. This subset of Christians would claim persecution if they made every clerk in America say "Have a Jesus-blessed Day" and offer communion to everyone walking in the door because they refer to the store manager as a supervisor instead of a preacher.
- cfulp, on 10/10/2007, -1/+12A school's responsibility is to teach facts. Religion is not based on any facts. The theory of evolution is based on available evidence. It has gaps, like any theory, but it's the best we have. My question is why don't we teach every religion in class? If Kansas is "teaching" creationism in classrooms why not teach every religions creationist beliefs? Wouldn't that make for better equality?
- DeFex, on 10/10/2007, -3/+14lol did you make that word up your self? i dont think killing other people because they dont agree with your religion is very moral either. i haven't seen atheists do that but christians are doing it right now.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -11/+22Facts? No wonder christians feel threatened! Facts make baby jesus cry!
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -3/+14That just earned him an extra week in purgatory, along with all the unbaptized stillborn babies.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -4/+15Whatever happened to being a free country?
Please. If I lived in kansas am I free to send my kid to a school where hes not going to get religious ***** crammed down his throat? Of course not!
So long as the church controls the state (and its looking more and more like they do) there is no freedom! - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+11By digging you down, it proves your point? You're ***** delusional aren't you?
- sevenout7, on 10/10/2007, -5/+15What I have a problem with is that nobody on the left has any problem with any of the bile that spews out from any other religion except Christianity. It is a two-faced standard. A imam can get on his podium and say that Jews are pigs and Christians should be killed and nobody bats an eye. However if the Christian says that Islam is an evil religion, then the Christian is guilty of a "hate crime." Furthermore, I find it interesting that leftists have no problem with Muslims literally telling the leftists that they hate them and want to kill them, but have more of an issue with a pastor telling them if they don't walk the straight and narrow path, then they are going to go to hell.
- feckineejit, on 10/10/2007, -2/+10exactly - you can't have it both ways...
- yeahitismeagain, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8Absolutely. And neither of us would stand for it, right?
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -3/+11The moment you mentioned that you are a Evolution Denier is when you lose all credibility when it comes to arguing facts. Evolution is the foundation of modern biology. To not teach evolution, it to retard the education of your children.
Creationism is a load of crock. It has no testable hypothesis, it has no use in science and industry and it has no evidence. Why don't we teach alchemy in out schools? Because it is *****. - kufu91, on 10/10/2007, -4/+12violence? how many have died from this article.
are Christians routinely killed in greater percentages than non Christians?
and aren't Christians the main supporters of recent violence (war in iraq)? - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9If those options are valid. You can teach Creationism or ID in religion or philosophy class but it isn't science and is therefore not a valid option to evolution in science class.
- zephc, on 10/10/2007, -10/+18Christian's often have an undeserved persecution complex - this is nothing new, and is evident to anyone who is awake around Xmas time.
- MJG2007, on 10/10/2007, -1/+9Give it a few more years and it'll roll back around to the right time of year. They'll start putting stuff out this year after labor day. Next year after Independence Day. Eventually working it's way all the way around the calendar.
Of course then we might start seeing ads like: ONLY 367 more days until Christmas! Come to our last chance Christmas sale! - holdie, on 10/10/2007, -4/+12I mean, if you want to interpret a lot of dissent from a website such as digg as a "war on Christianity" you can, but then I suppose there is also a war on almost every idea in the world
- cfulp, on 10/10/2007, -6/+13Christians are the ones with the anti-stem cell agenda. When I die from heart disease because there was no funding in stem cells, you'll have one less person bashing Christians. I don't care what you believe, any religion should not interrupt mans technological evolution.
- souluos, on 10/10/2007, -13/+20Christianity has been under attack long before people started using it to help push their agendas. I will keep diggnation in my prayers!
- Ebulating, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7Whats complete ***** is that the Taliban has kidnapped this many Korean missionaries and threatens to kill them for no reason, and in fact has already executed two, but all Diggers can do is demonize Christians. The Taliban are truly the most degenerate group on the planet, and Diggers have lost perspective. And this is coming from an Atheist.
- arbulus, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8Toast, I think you sound like a reasonable person, and it's refreshing to see level-headedness coming from the Christian point of view.
But I want to make a point about spreading the Christian faith that you refer to:
There's no need to do it. There is hardly a single person on this planet who DOESN'T know Christianity exists. Everyone is well aware of it. I think that the Christian faith as a whole needs to take a new approach, one that allows them to live as they believe, but allows others the liberty of not having a belief system pushed on them. Christians need to realize that everyone knows they are there and take a "wait for them to come" approach. Just set up your churches and seminars and whatnot, and if people are interested in learning more, they will come to you; don't take it to them. Don't denounce people publicly because you disagree with them. Don't try to force the doctrine into public schools. This coupled with a "live and let live" mentality, will help the Christian faith be more accepted because people will see that you are not the militant, Bible-toting terrorists that the extremists paint you all to be. But rather, people will see you as the "kind, loving, were-here-for-you-if-you-need-us" folk that you'd like to be seen as.
Just my $0.02 - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -5/+11Do you have something to refute or are you just spewing ***** out of your mouth?
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -3/+9You're mistakenly equating "We hate CHRISTIANITY" with hating Christians.
- holdie, on 10/10/2007, -5/+10Read "What's the Matter with Kansas" by Thomas Frank...
Really interesting book about why there is such a strong conservative support system, among other things it talks a lot about how the only way for conservatives to garner votes is to play the "we're all victims in this together" card because if anyone actually looked at their economic policy they wouldn't be quite as enthusiastic - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6Imagine if you saw Judaism mocked in movies and on TV the same way Jewish producers and writers mock Christianity. The screams of outrage would echo off the walls. Just look at what happens in The Simpsons and countless other shows, the foundations of Christianity are undermined and attacked and it's mainly Jews doing it. When Jews are the subject it's all really jokes about how they are oppressed or the occasional cheap joke. You don't see Solomon and Moses made to look like *****.
- ronaldinho, on 10/10/2007, -8/+13I'm a Christian, but I hated it when the Right is using MY faith as their ally for their own agendas that I don't support (like going to war). Religion in itself is not harmful; it's harmful when someone is not using it for its own sake. Much like someone acquiring knowledge and using it to make atomic bombs instead. When has anyone ever claimed knowledge to be evil? I certainly don't, but it just depends on how people uses it.
- WasabiBomb, on 10/10/2007, -4/+9...aaaand burying o0300o for spamming, trolling, and making a new account every day to get around the block filters.
- OneHine, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6He's a creationist.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7The Supreme Court and every court completely refutes your statement. The Freedom of Religion also means Freedom from it.
- lacronicus, on 10/10/2007, -4/+9the fact that we are here does not necessarily prove the existance of god any more than it disproves it. our existance is not a coincedance, it is a result of the rules of our world, whatever they were created by. for all we know, or may ever know, they may very well have been random.
- iDragonFly, on 10/10/2007, -5/+10"The killing of thousands because of faith is real."
Just as killing thousands who do not adhere to faith is real.
Both are wrong. - duggtodeath, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7I was refering to myself, and yes I am aware of the humor in saying Christ first :)
- hierophantus, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5It's definitely undeserved. Whenever the vocal right wing fundamentalists claim there's "persecution" going on (like the "War on Christmas"), they simultaneously claim to be the vast majority in America and yet somehow under the thumb of the evil atheist elites, who somehow have the power to keep them down despite being a tiny minority. Poor oppressed majority. Christians haven't been truly persecuted in a long, long, long, long time (Eaten by lions vs. not allowed to force people to pray in school? -- Not much of a comparison.). It's just a tactic to rile up followers who get a nice boost of fervor from a sense of being put-upon.
- troyfoley, on 10/10/2007, -10/+15"Christ, as a Christian..."
You're serious? -
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