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- Gannoc, on 10/12/2007, -36/+218Actually, I've also heard comments that Time Magazine is too conservative. If a media outlet is going to be critical of anything political, its obviously going to have to take a "side".
Should the media completely ignore the fact that the Bush administration has collapsed out of fear they'll be labeled too liberal? - subgeniusd, on 10/12/2007, -51/+170@KDX
When you have no defense just blindly swing at the speaker. Standard right wing knucklehead tactic. - drmangrum, on 10/12/2007, -29/+137Time's slant aside, the Bush administration has been riddled with failure and incompetence. Even people with strong republican history are finding it hard to swallow the ***** that is thrown around. It was clearly evident that Iraq was a decision made purely on Bush's personal vendettas.
- MrVictor, on 10/12/2007, -22/+122@KDX200rider
You should try to find fault in the essay writer's arguments before you question their motives. Anything else is a straw man. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -16/+107Not one of the remaining Republicans here so far have even attempted to address the issue, that the Bush administration somehow isn't collapsing.
Three have attacked Time as liberal (even though this is an editorial) and didn't address the argument.
One attacks Digg as hypocritical and didn't address the argument.
One claims that "everybody does it" (ie. attacks the speaker).and didn't address the argument. - Waiting2awake, on 10/12/2007, -16/+87 It is too bad that there are still some that defend this fella. It makes one wonder how badly someone would have to muck things up before those remaining 30% get it through their heads?
Still, what is more disheartening is that for a while, a good while, the majority of Americans bought this clowns act, while demeaning those friends and allies that were pointing exactly this stuff out 3,4,5 years ago....
I guess better late than never, but you all know he will still walk away from this without so much as a slap on his wrist...
Pretty sad, but if they want it, Americans can take back their country. I just don't know if enough of them want it. - ColinCampbell, on 10/12/2007, -22/+93Was the ship ever afloat? Outside of a small period after 9/11, Bush and his Administration have done nothing but continually ***** up.
- keyboardduder, on 10/12/2007, -54/+124http://moveon.org
http://opencongress.org
Be counted and be aware - dtd00d, on 10/12/2007, -19/+82What's frustrating is that there still _is_ a ship to be sunk.
It's nice to see them crash and burn but really we need to move on and start fixing things. - Sithlrd, on 10/12/2007, -7/+56And he was right. He's united 70% of America against his administration.
- AttackMantis, on 10/12/2007, -21/+63Worst president of my lifetime. (maybe of all US history)
I love threaded comments! - foooey, on 10/12/2007, -17/+57"Those remaining 30%" have been conditioned their entire lives to never under any circumstance think for themselves. The only way they could possibly "get it through their heads," is for the magical bearded guy in the sky to stop by and do it for them.
- FloppyLlamaDigg, on 10/12/2007, -11/+51>Nah, they are too busy watching NASCAR and getting fat.
Or watching ANNA NICOLE SMITH: STILL DEAD?, CNN's new special. - WarpFox, on 10/12/2007, -8/+46@floppy
it's an OPINION essay. - Jeveran, on 10/12/2007, -5/+41drkboarder,
The Daily Show with Jon Stewart had been on for ten years. He did three years of Clinton (remember him?) satirizing before moving on to the current administration. Stewart is a bright, talented guy with a fantastic writing staff. Whoever lands in the White House, male or female, Republican or Democrat, religious conservative to social liberal, is going to present a huge target of opportunity.
Think about it for a moment. What president hasn't been easy to joke about? - JonForTheWin, on 10/12/2007, -11/+44This administration isn't sinking. This administration, is SOARING. We're re-arranging the chairs on the hindenburg.
- WarpFox, on 10/12/2007, -35/+63@darksheet
That's because there's a lot of intelligent people on digg, and intelligent people tend to be liberal.
Plus, most of the time when a conservative calls a news outlet liberally biased, it is usually just a swing at them (reality has a strong liberal bias you know). Granted there ARE some heavily liberal biased media outlets that just take swings at republicans, but usually it's not the case.
There's a lot of morons too; (see caoimhinn below) that's what the digg down button is for. - cosmokramer1, on 10/12/2007, -12/+39Lets look at the bigger context here
Bush said, ' if you're not with me, you're against me ' - Translation - My way or the high way.
American approach - if you don't support the war, you're " conservative ", " un-patriotic ", " emboldening the enemy ", etc. etc.
We know Bush is a politician. Forget him for a moment.
As a common man, how hard is it to think " what if my president is wrong about this? ". If you term that ( also ) as 'un-patriotic', you're unfit to live in 2007. That's the crucial question that American's didn't ask and voted him again ! That's a mistake.
Going by the argument that in 2004, we didn't see what we see now in 2007, fine - agreed. But knowing what we know now, if we still don't have the gut to speak in one voice to say "no, I've been patient, now I don't accept to what you're saying", that's actually un-patriotic toward your country, than what they try brain wash you.
How do you say in voice - just stand up for yourself and reach out to local leader. Non-violent, un-cooperative protest will work. It has to e.g. Indian Independence, South African protest by Nelson Mandela. Why go so far - Martin L King.
American's need to understand that President is not god, he/she is an human being, who are prone to make mistakes, who are prone to be arrogant. Don't quickly conclude that I'm democratic, that's nonsense. The point is the approach of the people toward any person in power.
If Americans are going to say, oh well - we have him as the president, we have to support him, you're no different than a sheep following the other, no matter what.
This ignorance mixed up with arrogance is what people hate about this country, more than laughing at the incompetent leader.
Open your eyes ! - Phrag, on 10/12/2007, -13/+40If Time Magazine is so 'left wing' then why did they run two consecutive cover stories on the whitewater scandal during the Clinton administration?
http://www.time.com/time/covers/0,16641,19960318,00.html
http://www.time.com/time/covers/0,16641,19940404,00.html - TheSource, on 10/12/2007, -5/+30@floppyllamadigg
Why would you read People anyway? I don't know if it's just me and a few of my friends, but does anyone else find the lives of celebrities completely boring. I love movies and have a bunch of favorite actors/actresses, but there's a point in which I don't care who they're dating, who they're breaking up with, or whose kid they're carrying. - foooey, on 10/12/2007, -8/+32Unfortunately, we won't see that until it benefits them the most politically.
The real gotcha is Bush has the best anti-impeachment insurance policy in the history of America. NO ONE wants to see Cheney as President.
It's incredibly difficult to impeach a president, it would have to be virtually impossible to impeach both the President and VP at the same time. - scrimaxinc, on 10/12/2007, -8/+30@squantix
Your ridiculous over-the-top America bashing is just making Americans automatically disregard any criticism of them. Why read through a bunch of "Stupid lazy American" comments to get to something constructive.
@waiting2awake
Thank you for being coherent in your criticism.
Some of us did vote for the other guy. - ichbinladen, on 10/12/2007, -21/+42The article is dead on but one question remains; when will impeachment proceedings begin?
- deadbaby, on 10/12/2007, -10/+30The only silver lining to the Bush disaster is maybe Americans will finally learn how to vote. It's NOT a popularity contest. You have to vote for the most qualified candidate.
- KazamaSmokers, on 10/12/2007, -7/+27NASCAR isn't "American". It's "southern".
- quakerorts, on 10/12/2007, -21/+41FTA "Arrogance", "incompetence" and "cynicism." I would add greed, corruption, immorality, and criminality.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+24what if the 2 wealthy candidates have already been pre chosen for you.
they have to ban companies from donating to candidates, and ban lobbyists for a start.
they are supposed to be "for the people" not "for my corporate buddies" - socket, on 10/12/2007, -10/+27Never. Congress doesn't have the balls. Not until the remaining few Bush supports open their eyes and demand him and Dick be held accountable for getting us into this mess.
- davesbrain, on 10/12/2007, -6/+23@Spuy767
Read some literature on what the most extreme Christian neo-cons want.
Abortion: Illegal.
Birth Control: Illegal.
Gay Marriage: Illegal.
Homosexuality: Illegal.
Pre-Marital Sex: Illegal.
Heterosexual Marriage: Mandatory.
Having Children: Mandatory.
Religion: Mandatory Participation in a Christian Church.
Rejection of Darwinism.
Rejection of Scientific Study.
National Institution of Biblical Law.
Christan Fundamentalists are every bit as intolerant and terrifying as their Islamic brethren. - GoneSouth, on 10/12/2007, -6/+23Support the troops, rancor. Enlist!
- davesbrain, on 10/12/2007, -3/+18He's also the self-proclaimed "decider." He just decides against the proper course of action most of the time.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -11/+26mrfoos:
>The Collapse of Objective Reporting
It's an editorial, not reporting. In the print magazine there's even a title for the slow, dimwitted folk "opinion." Since you're evidently unsure, check the author. - londubh, on 10/12/2007, -11/+23When did the mainstream media grow testicles?
- davesbrain, on 10/12/2007, -19/+31Time does have a leftward slant, but does that mean this article is false and should be ignored? Look at the reasons Bush gives for justifying his actions regarding the three points in this article and then make a decision.
- TrueXtremeIcon, on 10/12/2007, -4/+15What part of Opinion/Editorial eludes you?
- yournamehere, on 10/12/2007, -5/+15bugzero,
you are an idiot - biggychong, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12@KDX200rider
Damn reality and its liberal bias! - drmangrum, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11Yes, it does matter. When you fail to hold a leader, any leader, accountable for their actions, a precedence is set. With any luck, more people will see how dangerous not voting or voting irresponsibly really is.
- CourtesyFlush, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9The simple truth is this:
- The Dems REMOVED IT FROM THE TABLE of their own accord..
- Impeach Drones will read, discuss, promote and orgasm over any article or opinion piece that comes along and mentions the word.....despite the fact that it has been off the table for half a year.
- The press realizes this and takes advantage of the Pavlovian tendencies of Impeach Drones to line their pockets with traffic revenue.
Anyone can make up a reason for impeachment being taken off the table. The most likely one is this:
- The Democrats in power know they don't have enough concrete evidence or the TIME to follow through with Impeachment proceedings. Motive placement does not stand up in court and they've all said the same exact ***** Bushie has said. In other words, THEY would end up looking just as bad in a legal contest as the President. They do not want this.
"Not having the ballls" is really the same as "I don't understand why." - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+13Yeah, they could launch WMDs in 45 minutes. True! I heard it from O'Reilly! And Bush!
- AxeSwinger, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9I very clearly remember Bush talking about Saddam trying to kill his dad,as justification for war. It was not reported that he said it; it came from his lips. I also found it interesting I only heard that rationale once and then it became all about WMD.
- Woomanchu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7That couldn't be any more true. Imagine if our lives were under this much scrutiny; talented comedians would tear our lives to shreds. This is definitely not exclusive to celebrities and political figures.
- drmangrum, on 10/12/2007, -6/+13Yeah, cuz Iraq was so well equipped to bring war to America.
- warmonger48, on 10/12/2007, -9/+15"I'm a uniter, not a divider". Nuff said.
- davesbrain, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8Just what one would expect from you.
- GoneSouth, on 10/12/2007, -7/+13Let us not forget to add cowardice to his list of failings. The Decider is going to leave the hard choices about cleaning up this mess, to his successor.
- generalinterest, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Yeah and instead of idolizing Mao and Che, maybe we should follow real revolutionaries like Washington, Jefferson, Franklin, etc...
- mt066, on 10/12/2007, -9/+15Bias is ONE tool, of many that you should use with critical reading, and it gets waaay too much weight on here. Probably because it's an easy way to dismiss something out of hand or make a snap judgement without actually using your brain. It implies some sort of bending of the truth to suit your agenda. Like shouting "Lies!!" without actually saying it. However, it pulls no weight if the "biased" person is stating facts. This article is pointing out facts. It doesn't matter if the most middle of the road moderate wrote it, or Hilary Clinton wrote it at an abortion and gay rights rally. It doesn't take away from the FACTS that are in the article.
- Hetman, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10He is not even a captian. He is like that ***** kid with no skills who gets to play on the varsity football team because his dad was coach.
- Hetman, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6conspiracy theorist base all there facts on weak anaologies. They have no scientific proof.
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