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- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -10/+74The unAmerican neo-cons want everyone to think the terrorists fight us because of our "freedoms" because they most assuredly don't want us to think it's our foreign policy!
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -7/+38FTA: All this is to say that Scheuer’s War on Terror credentials are absolutely impeccable. He is hard core, and if our leaders would have listened more carefully to the likes of him, there would have been no more bin Laden after we had a chance to take him out during the Clinton Administration. If they had followed his advice then, there may not have been the terrorist attacks on our country on September 11, 2001, as a result.
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Bin Laden is a CIA patsy.
Webster Tarpley:
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-609179074068244932 - seks03, on 10/11/2007, -4/+33Most people still believe what Rudy said, thats the sad Part, We have to get the word out about Dr.Ron Paul to people off the net http://www.digg.com/business_finance/4_steps_on_how_to_use_to_spread_the_word_about_Ron_Paul_picture
- nokla, on 10/11/2007, -9/+29Neocons *are* terrorists. Terror is their primary tool for achieving their goals - and they benefit more from terrorism than the perps. Neocons hate 9-11 truthers because the benefits are so visible to them that they have concluded that Neocons are behind the attacks. Doesn't make much sense to hate someone who gives you far more credit than you deserve though. The Neocons should be buddies with the truthers because they both object to key findings of fact in the 9-11 Commission Report (with the Neocons it's the substantiated evidence of blowback that they conveniently ignore).
- Bigboomer223, on 10/11/2007, -6/+19Ron Paul is so right. Pray he is our next Pres.!
- reed311, on 10/11/2007, -6/+19You folks act like Ron Paul was the first to say that American intervention contributes to terrorism. Liberals have been saying this for years and years. Except when they say it, they get labeled anti-American or anti-Semitic.
- g30ff, on 10/11/2007, -3/+14I think he raises some valid points, but I can think of at least one issue where I'd be glad if he were ignored: extreme rendition. Michael Scheuer was responsible for developing the redition process and continues to deny that mistakes were made despite all evidence to the contrary. In my books this makes him a world class douchebag. I hope his advice will be read with a critical eye since it includes forcibly transporting people on the basis of mere suspicion to countries where they can be tortured. Anyone who buys into this clearly lacks the integrity to abstain from torture but is too cowardly to take responsibility for it.
- sodade, on 10/11/2007, -1/+10It's not about "complementing it" you dumbass, it is about staying the ***** out of it until it is a tangible national threat.
- Jowsley, on 10/11/2007, -2/+11It's an explanation, not justification.
- udahlen, on 10/11/2007, -1/+9Rudy Giuliani and president Bush and others know almost nothing about the real world. Please don't vote for Rudy in '08 if you want a change for the better.
- WalkerBurgin, on 10/11/2007, -5/+13Ron Paul ftw.
- veganoob, on 10/11/2007, -5/+12The whole article is silly because its based on the pretense that "terrorists" from foreign countries attacked the WTC. 9/11 was an inside job. The only terrorists we should be concerned with are the ones on Capitol Hill.
- dysfunction, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7Because the Democrats in office are power-structure shills? Please don't confuse 'Democratic politician' with 'liberal real person', the latter were well aware of what the results of this war would be and protested fervently against it well before it began.
- zezerik, on 10/11/2007, -3/+9again, if Democrats are so against this war, why did they vote to fund it in 2003?
- ccheath, on 10/11/2007, -4/+10bin laden's cia codename: Tim Osman
true or false? - Drkboarder, on 10/11/2007, -1/+7Can we just use extra names like Snowball I to ensure that Paul gets elected? Just cheating the cheaters...
- Patogrande, on 10/11/2007, -2/+8Did anyone read Washington's letter (the link at the bottom of the page)? It was amazing. The grammar and diction almost went over my head! It's amazing how standards have changed.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5there is a significant problem if there is 100 digg.com comments and only one of them states that bin laden had zero to do with 9/11. USA groupthink is in very bad condition indeed. people from outside the USA laugh and laugh at us. the whole world knows. one person called it "the open secret." those of you who believe this official bin laden story need to re-evaluate. you are very, very, naive.
- Bigboomer223, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6True.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -3/+8He's not qualified because he's a corrupt mobster. HTH.
- Sertorius, on 10/11/2007, -2/+7Congressman Ron Paul is the only sane voice on the political horizon. Why would anyone in their right mind vote for the likes of Giuliani, Romny or McCain: they are in not in touch with reality?
- thecoolestguy, on 10/11/2007, -2/+7I think of all the corporate shills running for president, Giuliani is the best one. He brought security to New York City, which is an important achievement. That being said, Ron Paul is the only candidate that would bring real prosperity to America, because he doesn't give a sht about playing political games, he just wants to do what's best for America.
- khfn, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5American interests? What exactly, pray tell, do you know about American interests? Are you referring to the welfare of the state and those in power or the welfare of the citizens of the nation? Because these usually end up conflicting, honestly.
- slenderdog, on 10/11/2007, -1/+6"The nation, prompted by ill-will and resentment, sometimes impels to war the government, contrary to the best calculations of policy. The government sometimes participates in the national propensity, and adopts through passion what reason would reject; at other times it makes the animosity of the nation subservient to projects of hostility instigated by pride, ambition, and other sinister and pernicious motives. The peace often, sometimes perhaps the liberty, of nations, has been the victim." --Washington's Farewell Address, 1796
http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/washing.htm - SouthsideIrish, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4What are you talking about? I am an anarchist, and I am for Ron Paul and I am an American. There is a difference between an American and a United States citizen, and I do not want him to carry an un-American banner. If Ron Paul gets elected, then he will do exactly what I want him to do, and that is move the United State in a more pro-freedom direction, and anything he does will not disappoint me.
I wonder if we are even using the same definition of anarchist. - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -3/+7bin laden didn't do 9/11. he said it was done by people from inside usa and israel who were against the american system. it's from a bbc radio pick-up from around 9/30/01. clear as a bell. OBL was just an object of propaganda to the usa. cheney is the guy who sat in the bunker and gave the stand down orders for the fighter planes. this has real human witnesses.
- biggsdarklight, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4 Some have, but none of them are running for President now and had the guts to say it in a Televised Debate like Paul did. Also, none of the Democrats running for President are saying this now either. He's already been labeled "Anti-American" by the neo-con crowd. The anti-semitic accusations will come soon enough. Those claims derailed Buchanan in 1996 and when Paul wins New Hampshire they'll start going after him as well.
- venicerocco, on 10/11/2007, -3/+7The fact that he's supported by the same type of Republican bafoon who supports "strong talking" candidates, immediately renders him inadequate for the highest office.
- thecoolestguy, on 10/11/2007, -1/+5You're an insane idiot.
- kethraal, on 10/11/2007, -0/+4"Unless extreme action is taken, many more innocent lives will be lost all in the name of a belief."
And if extreme action is taken, many other innocent lives will be lost in the name of a belief. The only difference is that it will be a different belief. - mighty_mouth, on 10/11/2007, -5/+9"don't you find it a bit odd that the American super power has this many failures on a single issue??"
No, I don't find it odd at all. It's the government's amazing efficiency at work.
Bureaucracies suck at doing things. Welcome to planet Earth. - tehbishop, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4Without naming who I'm talking about directly, there was a leader of Germany in the 1930s that brought them out of recession, helped rebuild Germany into a leading nation and also protected the German people from outside influences ... well, that guy being a leader in the end didn't turn out so well now did it? So your points are ... useless, thank you drive though.
What someone has done does not mean anything regarding what they will do. Also, nothing you listed really answers why Guiliani is so wrong on this issue, does it? - williamdyer, on 10/11/2007, -2/+5We are in the current war because of Israel, specifically PNAC, AIPAC, and other agents of influence in the U.S.
If you don't want your kids to be shipped off to Iran to die in an even stupider war, you must do whatever it takes to:
1. End neocon influence on the U.S. government
2. End the linkage of evangelical Christians to zionism - Delphium226, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Pity those interests no longer include catching Bin Laden.
Makes you think, doesn't it? (that's if you have a brain to think with) - abdrahman, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4one doesn't even need to be liberal to realize that the war was doomed from the start. I, a social conservative, told my friends there was going to be a civil war day one of the war, but was told I was being "pessimistic" and needed to be "patriotic".
- asian1, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3Why did they come to France in the first place? Because it's their RIGHT??? It wasn't their right, and if they have difficulty coexisting with that place THEY CHOSE TO COME TO, then they have the choice of returning to where they were ORIGINALLY, instead of trying to destroy their new destination to re-make it to their liking.
Let's face it, Muslims feel that entry into other countries in their right, and that said entry involves the new destination re-making itself to meet their requirements. Wow, that's not a country, that's a COLONY. - g30ff, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3Calling them "stressed interrogations" goes well beyond euphemism to outright lie. We aren't even talking about the resrained torture that the US government likes to pass of as somehow acceptable when they do it in Cuba, we're talking about beatings, electric shock, etc. For the little you gain from these tactics you lose much more in the form of lost reputation in the international community and even from American citizens themselves.
People like you like to paint the question of whether or not to use tortue as bein gone of "would you torture one guy to save the lives of hundreds", but in reality (not to be confused with the TV show 24) things are never that clear cut. Rationalize it all you like, but if the American people really thought as you do then why not torture people in your own country? For that matter, why not make it a regular part of your justice system? - nokla, on 10/11/2007, -2/+4Give them his phone number:
Ron Paul's Weekly Report
(888) 322-1414
Updated every Monday - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Ron Paul plans on going after the Fed, the CIA and the IRS!!!! If that aint tough, I don' t know what is.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3I think it's in Americas interests that people don't fly planes into our buildings.
- abdrahman, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2All I am trying to say is that religious people don't need to have things "now, and right now"; they are quite content waiting hundreds of years to take advantage of something.
- sodade, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Oh yeah - dude in afganistan with an AK47 and some psycho friends decides that he wants to RULE THE WORLD - mwahahaha
WTF ever dude - kindrobot, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3He didn't steal your camera, did he?
- geekee, on 10/11/2007, -6/+8The fact that they don't like US foreign policy doesn't justify their actions.
- gmason08, on 10/11/2007, -3/+5@oddcarom & jedikv-Perhaps it is those that faithfully trust concentrated power to do the right thing against all evidence/facts of history/human nature that need tinfoil hat fittings and cuckoo clock shopping sprees.
- g30ff, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2I don't expect they will, but if you torture people I do expect that they will tell you whatever they think you want to hear to make it stop regardless of their guilt or innocence. These people have been found guilty of nothing; even a process (criminal trial) designed to protect the rights of the accused makes mistakenly punishes innocent people all the time. Do you really think the slightest suspicion by the agency responsible for the "Iraq has WMDs" ***** is going to be more reliable?
"Clearly bad guys aren't going to talk unless they're made uncomfortable"
The same is true of any bad guys, if torture is such a great tool to protect society, why not use it to put away the drug pusher who poisons hundreds, the pimps who force young women into what is essentially paid rape, the paedophiles who are powerless to stop assaulting children, or the heads of organized crime families whose actions will kill many and hurt hundreds more? Why waste time gathering evidence and conducting trials. Americans are far more likely to fall victim to criminals like these than they are to be killed by terrorists. - hasheman, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2Ach's "broad vulgarization" is right on the money. The United States approached Saddam Hussein in much the same way as Osama. We built him up only to remove him from the position of power that we put him in. Our close ties with the Saudis and all of our investments in Israel were at stake when Saddam turned his sight on neighboring Islamic states. The US foreign policy is indeed formed around protection, but not protection of what you might think.
- plastree, on 10/11/2007, -2/+4But it's not, so what's your point? Christianity condemns non-believers to hell, but most followers brush that aside in order to retain some semblance of humanity. If you actually think that 22% of the world's population wants to destroy everyone else, you've been fooled. Un-brainwash yourself please.
- dodus, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2And...FDR and Stalin were?
- khfn, on 10/11/2007, -1/+2If Giuliani gets into office, we will most likely lose the rest of the freedoms we have left.
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