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- 5celery, on 09/07/2008, -9/+473Q: What do you call parents who teach abstinence?
A: Grandparents - inactive, on 09/08/2008, -8/+146teach anal
- inactive, on 09/07/2008, -4/+119Glad you asked. She's the Governor of Alaska who believes in abstinence only sex "education" and has an un-married pregnant teenage daughter.
Funny, isn't it? - rosered621, on 09/07/2008, -4/+106Dr. Malcolm said, "Life finds a way."
Only in Jurassic Park dinosaurs had to change sex to procreate. Here horny teens only have to overcome tired "no sex before marriage" rhetoric.
My money is on Malcolm. - Shogi, on 09/08/2008, -10/+108Abstinence is a joke.
- ironhide, on 09/08/2008, -6/+100Q: What do you call parents who teach abstinence and think the teenager will heed them when the hormones kick in.
A: Naive - funkyloki, on 09/07/2008, -3/+96What is particularly funny is that her and McCain want us and the media to leave her family alone with this "private" matter, but at the same time they want to take away the privacy and choice of millions of American women by telling them what they can and cannot do with their own bodies.
So hypocritical. That's ***** no matter how you look at it, but I guess that is what you can expect from people who get some of the best FREE medical coverage in this country, yet tell us that we can't have the same. - thelif, on 09/08/2008, -7/+91Q: What do you call parents who teach abstinence but got pregnant before being married and whose daughter also got pregnant before being married?
A: Moral....? - vector66, on 09/08/2008, -5/+84Abstinence alone as a means of educating our youth about sex and it's complications is completely inadequate. Case in point, this Palin story.
- inactive, on 09/07/2008, -11/+90Who is this Sarah Palin anyway? I don't think I've come across the name before.
- inactive, on 09/08/2008, -1/+62Now that is a policy that we can all get behind!
- fxu1989, on 09/08/2008, -5/+65Kids are gonna do it whether you want it or not.
Why not give them the means to safe sex and prevent teen pregnancies. Time to get your head out of your ass.
The public schools in U.S suck. I was in a private catholic school in South America from kindergarten to 6th grade. Sex Ed class started at grade 5. I had many friends in public schools, and they said it started on grade 6 for them.
Here, they barely mention sex ed in Health class... and you don't get health class until you get to 10th grade... half-year health, half-year driving. - inactive, on 09/08/2008, -7/+63And her own family is proof of just how well abstinence only programs work.
- Murrabbit, on 09/08/2008, -3/+59Look it up, Condoms alone, when properly used, reduce risk of pregnancy to 0.02%. If a girl happens to also be on the pill, with her boyfriend using a condom properly, the risk of unwanted pregnancy goes down so low that the pair of kids are more likely to be killed by a meteor strike while having sex than producing a baby.
Kids need to learn these facts, because while abstinence is most certainly the ideal method, let's face it kids are going to screw, it's what they are wired for. They're a bunch of hormonal fiends without mature adult reasoning and judgment capabilities.
Sex will happen, it's meant to happen, it's how our species got where it is today, let's not pretend that we can just make all that disappear if we ignore it and act morally outraged. Sex is risky yes, but it can also be fun natural healthy and SAFE! Kids need to know this so they don't ruin their lives. - susilou, on 09/08/2008, -7/+63Abstinence only programs are a complete waste of money and irresponsible.
- inactive, on 09/08/2008, -13/+66Sarah Palin is ***** crazy
- bitfreak, on 09/08/2008, -0/+49Both true. They could be moral grandparents. But it would be a fallacy to imply that parents who take the sex education and empowerment route are not moral, they just don't have their heads buried in the sand. They could easily be moral and not grandparents.
But, the evidence in Palin's case is....it failed. Period. She's going to be a grandma, moral or not. - chrissku, on 09/08/2008, -2/+48Maybe she should worry about her own house before she tells us how to handle ours.
- JAMMR, on 09/08/2008, -3/+48Great, my boss was walking by and saw "Teen Sex, Sex E" in the tab for this article.
- inactive, on 09/08/2008, -3/+39"Right and wrong" do not belong in sex education. It's all totally relative. I know you're an insecure and unstable person who needs absolute, rock-solid stability in everything you encounter, but we're not all like that. It's not "right" to give a hand massage but not a foot massage, and it's not "wrong" to enjoy oral sex. It's not "right" to do man on top and "wrong" to do woman on top. Putting basic morality - be nice and polite, don't hurt others, etc - right next to sex education sends the absolute wrong message.
- pilot3033, on 09/08/2008, -1/+37if you had sex in highschool, you were part of a normal group of teenagers who reached sexual maturity sooner rather than later.
If you didn't wear a condom and got some girl preggers, you're and idiot. - ryan83189, on 09/08/2008, -2/+36Abstinence: most effective, least practical. Thats not to say it's bad in sex ed, but abstinence ONLY sex ed is stupid. I'm not going to count on my kid's school to teach them what to do either, given the terrible quality of education, and because the "report card" for failing sex ed is STDs and pregnancy, and I don't want to deal with that *****.
- Prosequi, on 09/08/2008, -1/+34Give the children the tools they need.
Giving information that has been shown to result in less desirable results because it is "moral" implies that you're not setting the morals; that some other entity is imposing the morals on you. Clearly this entity does not have your children's best interest in mind. If you use personal morals you'll give the children the tools they need. - inactive, on 09/08/2008, -1/+32Dude, if you're going to protect the little teenagers, why don't you protect the big grown-ups who end up in therapy because of the emotionally charged relationships? Teach responsibility and be done with it. There's no need to generalize and decide that no teenagers can handle relationships; they've been doing it since forever, so you should know better.
- Phyraxus, on 09/08/2008, -1/+31Sex education is just that... EDUCATION. Deal With IT!
- bitfreak, on 09/08/2008, -2/+32Palin's daughter proves the point. Hormones trump abstinence. Maybe if she'd have put her bible down and talked to her kid about sex in a frank and adult manner, this might not have happened. Either way, Palin's end result proves that the bury-your-head-in-the-sand "do as Mommy says" approach is a losing game. I have a 20 year old daughter - not pregnant. We talked it over, and told her it was up to her to have sex or not. But we also prepared her with contraceptive guidance starting at about 16 when she could go out on group dates. She was ready and able but she waited until 18 to become fully active. Worked for our family, and everyone is fine. She's in the Air Force now, paying taxes and preparing for college.
- Brennn10, on 09/08/2008, -7/+34Hypocrite.
- Klinky, on 09/08/2008, -0/+27Is it possible that they could step outside the house and get hit by a meteor? Step in a car and crash it? Go down an alleyway and get gunned down?
You act like an emotionally charged relationship is a bad thing. Heck a sour relationship can get ANYONE down, even adults. If you continually protect a teen from something because you think they can't handle it until they're an adult, we're going to have a bunch of adults who still act like children. - thejimmyo, on 09/08/2008, -1/+27Q: “What about grants for sex education in the United States? Should they include instructions about using contraceptives? Or should it be Bush’s policy, which is just abstinence?”
Mr. McCain: (Long pause) “Ahhh. I think I support the president’s policy.”
Q: “So no contraception, no counseling on contraception. Just abstinence. Do you think contraceptives help stop the spread of HIV?”
Mr. McCain: (Long pause) “You’ve stumped me.”
Q: “I mean, I think you’d probably agree it probably does help stop it?”
Mr. McCain: (Laughs) “Are we on the Straight Talk express? I’m not informed enough on it. Let me find out. You know, I’m sure I’ve taken a position on it on the past. I have to find out what my position was. Brian, would you find out what my position is on contraception – I’m sure I’m opposed to government spending on it, I’m sure I support the president’s policies on it.”
Q: “But you would agree that condoms do stop the spread of sexually transmitted diseases. Would you say: ‘No, we’re not going to distribute them,’ knowing that?”
Mr. McCain: (Twelve-second pause) “Get me Coburn’s thing, ask Weaver to get me Coburn’s paper that he just gave me in the last couple of days. I’ve never gotten into these issues before.”
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/03/16/mcca ... - Ebonsteel, on 09/08/2008, -0/+26"These days"? What are you, a ***** idiot?
Oh, you're a right-wing apologist mouthpiece. Sorry, same difference. - Sertis, on 09/08/2008, -2/+28Grandma Palin
- Phyraxus, on 09/08/2008, -3/+27Rogue, don't be ***** stupid.
- joepeg, on 09/08/2008, -1/+25In response to a questionnaire during Alaska's gubernatorial race, Palin said, "I am opposed to explicit sex education."
Apparently. - ofenza, on 09/08/2008, -8/+31If people like this get in charge of the USA, that's it, we just won't care about you americans anymore. Please stop the evolutionary regression.
Signed: Europeans - diggproof, on 09/08/2008, -0/+22"So, teens have no self control these days"
By these days, you do mean the last 50 or so years right? You're not that out of touch right? - SpacaB, on 09/08/2008, -3/+25rogue,
you are an idiot - itseffinkasey, on 09/08/2008, -1/+22I don't understand these people. Educating someone is never ever a bad thing.
- inactive, on 09/08/2008, -0/+21You've still not given us a reason why teaching teenagers responsible sexual practices is detrimental. Perhaps you forgot that if you effectively teach them to be responsible, they won't be getting pregnant and diseased all across the country?
- rz8472, on 09/08/2008, -1/+22She also cut funding for special needs children by 62%. So much for 'an advocate in the White House'...
- Sahdow, on 09/08/2008, -0/+20time to find a new job - again.
- eir574, on 09/08/2008, -0/+19@justjoehere
"Teaching sex education is a parent's responsibility, right along with morality, not the schools"
Are you aware of any sex education program in schools that does not give parents the option to opt their children out? If I remember correctly, my school might even have been opt in. If your parents opted you in, you spent one quarter in the class instead of in gym classes. Since there were always people who weren't taking the sex ed class in any given quarter, I doubt anyone would have noticed if some students didn't take the class. No parents were forced to have their kids either take the class or risk being singled out. What's wrong with that? - inactive, on 09/08/2008, -0/+18biogears, I'm afraid you don't know what you're talking about. The beautiful thing about being in support of choice is, um, letting women CHOOSE. Bristol Palin may be 17, but she's no less a woman and it's no less her choice. If her mother had forced her to take either route, she would be robbing her child of her rightful choice and I would be disgusted.
- bobcatman, on 09/08/2008, -3/+21We can tell that she did a great job teaching her own children about abstinence!!!!
- Nidy1, on 09/07/2008, -2/+19Prosecuted for what? Wtf?
- ironhide, on 09/08/2008, -0/+16Tough crowd eh Johan?
- Lewie, on 09/08/2008, -0/+16The only time people waited for marriage to have sex is when they wed at age 14-15.
Shoving sex? I don't know what planet you're from, but the world IS sex. It's the main reason why men and women get together at all. - inactive, on 09/08/2008, -2/+17rogue, I'm curious. Why do you think that simply stating something that you believe according to your arbitrary and subjective, and therefore worthless to anybody not screen-named rogue780, morality is going to convince me, or anyone? Do you have some special title that we should know about, like Supreme Global Arbiter of Morality? I'm afraid that you aren't going to get very far just declaring something, that you probably don't know much about, to be "wrong." We construct real arguments using facts and evidence around here; we've long since abandoned simply declaring things good and bad because of the way we personally feel about them. You've got a long way to go and a lot of growing up to do before you can run with the big boys. Now go back to school and pick up an argumentative writing class. You may return at the end of the semester.
- str1fe, on 09/08/2008, -1/+16"Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers"
-- George Carlin - rosered621, on 09/08/2008, -0/+15I think the point is being missed...
We're not fighting society, we're fighting biology. There's a reason why girls start menstruating in their preteens. It's ridiculous to think hormones will cause those biological changes without bringing on the urge to have sex.
We've already tried that whole calling girls sluts and whores thing to scare them out of sex. Let's stop sending them to take care of sick grandmothers for nine months and try something different. - inactive, on 09/08/2008, -1/+15Want to see what abstinence education, FORCEd on a country by a church, does to that country?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/artic ...
A tale of two countries. They started with (roughly) the same population. One followed church mandates, the other didn't. Guess which country is crippled by the population expansion? -
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