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- RansomHoldiay, on 03/22/2008, -31/+48615. Black people and young people would desert the democratic party and politics as a whole in mass numbers. The democratic party would, in one fell swoop, set itself back an entire generation.
16. If it came to just an out and out fist fight with the other country's leader, Obama could kick some ass.
17. The cackle. - Bobaliki, on 03/22/2008, -17/+31315. You dont see anyone making lists about 14 reasons why Obama should quit
- callinthelaw69, on 03/22/2008, -20/+175There's only two really important ones:
Her nomination (gag, I know) would put McCain in the White House
and
She's not qualified.
Plain and simple. - Pinkertinkle, on 03/22/2008, -6/+122But there's one reason Hillary Clinton won't quit: she believes she is 100% entitled to the nomination and the presidency just for being Hillary.
- Harboggles, on 03/22/2008, -31/+142Reason #1. She's hillary.
- damnitkitty, on 03/22/2008, -24/+135This guy writes for Time magazine? It came off as very amateurish, almost like something someone commenting on Digg might write. For example:
"11. If she somehow found a way to win the nomination, she would have to offer Obama the veep slot, and she doesn’t want to do that."
...uh....what? - SeaweedWater, on 03/22/2008, -9/+10715. That horrible yelling she does during her speeches. Just talk.
- JavanSClark, on 03/22/2008, -6/+98Black Person here. She would lose us to the, "Not going to vote" category.
- ReidFleming, on 03/22/2008, -8/+81Here's how digg works, if you like something, 'digg' it. If you don't, 'bury' it. I'm surprised you're having trouble with the concept as it's relatively simple. Perhaps your schooling should have better dealt with your special needs as a child.
- 22pages, on 03/22/2008, -12/+68If she cares about this country, she will quit. But that's not going to happen. She's going to pull a Lieberman and put herself before her party and the country. Both the Clintons sicken me at this point. After Bill's latest comment about patriotism I'm all for impeaching them from the party.
- inactive, on 03/22/2008, -5/+56@PATSCRU, I disagree. The only way that she can win now is by employing dirty tricks. American blacks would NEVER forgive her for stopping Obama through shady backroom shenanigans. She would definitely lose black voters, and unless Obama struggled to keep them loyal, the Democratic party would lose them too.
- saxreturns, on 03/22/2008, -3/+48I find it pretty ironic that you're using a 'vote for me or you're all idiots' tactic.
- rzxc, on 03/22/2008, -7/+51I wonder if she's taking the weekend off to consider quiting the race. Perhaps the super delegates are trying to get her to quit. There have been several articles in the past few days suggesting that she has no hope of winning the nomination. This is true. However, not much has changed during that time period. Obama did get Richardson's endorsement, however that's only 1 delegate. That's not exactly a knockout blow. I wonder if the whole race issue has the Democrats wanting to end the infighting. It's hard to tackle the race issue while all this infighting is going on. Ironically, by pressing the race issue, the conservatives are pushing the Democrats toward unifying behind Obama.
- inactive, on 03/22/2008, -2/+39To apathy and nonparticipation.
- TheSwashbuckler, on 03/22/2008, -2/+36"the media still wants Obama to be the nominee — and that has an impact every day."
Probably the most honest thing Halperin's ever written... - akatsuki, on 03/22/2008, -2/+35Not Black Person here... No, the point is to punish the party for betraying them and force them to listen to black concerns instead of taking them for granted. Good for them. Something like that could cause the collapse of the party to be replaced by some other party (it has happened in the past and could still happen again regardless of the fact that most diggers think that stuff stays the same no matter what).
- JavanSClark, on 03/22/2008, -1/+34IF the roles were reversed, we would, and we would have seen them much much sooner.
- qwerter, on 03/22/2008, -2/+32I don't think I'm speaking only for myself when I say that for a lot of us, Obama is our one and only choice for president. I really can't see myself voting for someone who ran a dirty fear and smear campaign against my guy. Maybe the right thing to do would be to turn the other cheek and say, "please ma'am, may I have another?" while I pull the lever for her in November . . . but she made this personal when she started attacking us, Obama's supporters. If she thinks we're going to be okay with voting for her after wresting the nomination away in spite of the popular vote, she's got another thing coming.
I doubt it will come to this, but it's important that the superdelegates know how we feel. Going against the will of the people will be suicide for the party. - inactive, on 03/22/2008, -10/+39The beautiful thing about Obama (there are many) is that this doesn't affect him. As a strong leader, a challenge like this can only make you stronger.
Step down, Hillary, or don't. It really doesn't matter.
The next 8 years will be quite a ride for the US and the world. - facelesscoward, on 03/22/2008, -3/+32Yeah, if a white person came out and blamed the black elite for mistreating white Americans for the past 250 years, he would have to drop out.
Because he'd be ***** delusional. Rev. Wright may be a bit over the top, but a lot of what he is saying is rooted in reality, not blind racism. - inactive, on 03/22/2008, -4/+32I don't understand why yet again Obama is getting blamed for "killing" revotes in Michigan and Florida. I guess it's his fault the state legislators moved up the primaries and the DNC penalized them for it. I guess it's his fault that it would be unfair to allow Michigan voters who voted in the Republican primary to get a second vote in the Democratic primary. It's also Obama's fault I stubbed my toe this morning.
- beakerwimp, on 03/22/2008, -3/+30Well, what happens when you research both of their political records? If you spend 30 minutes on it you quickly realize that Obama's record is more robust than Clinton's in many ways. I'm not even talking about the fact that she polarizes people more. I'm just talking about the fact that Obama's legislative record is more productive when you look at them both impartially. This is surprising to many people since they have never done the research themselves and have just been subjected to a lot of speculative media stories. They've been fed the line that Obama has little experience. Do some comparisons on their real records though. You can easily find the info you need online. Here are some decent comparisons. I'm not saying they are all completely unbiased, but they all contain real facts that point to the robustness of Obama's record getting things done and working on important issues:
Thorough Comparison Between Obama and Clinton's Records:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/2/20/201332/807 ...
Well-Compiled Lists of Legislative Records:
http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/2/16/1398/33448
Barack Obama vs. Hillary Clinton Records on Transparency, Lobbyists, and Ethics
http://thinkonthesethings.wordpress.com/2007/11/05 ...
Good Summary of Obama's Legislative Record (at both the state and nation levels):
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/2/20/11354/7731
A List of Other Informative Comparisons:
http://thinkonthesethings.wordpress.com/compare-cl ...
If you're going to vote, it is important to look into this stuff. - Burrito, on 03/22/2008, -4/+31I have chosen to not click either icon and instead leave a comment calling you a retard.
Kobayashi maru, retard. - Yesplease, on 03/22/2008, -6/+32Description: "It is impossible for Hillary to beat Obama in the number of delegates or the popular vote"
FTFA: "3. Catching up in the popular vote is not out of the question"
I want Obama to have this all wrapped up too, but remember to get out there and vote for the guy, she still has avenues to the nomination, even if they are becoming more and more far fetched. - dxgg, on 03/22/2008, -5/+31She's an arrogant, controlling, abusive woman.
- Unriggable, on 03/22/2008, -3/+28Probably because he's winning, but that's just my guess.
- sakuraz, on 03/22/2008, -11/+3518. If we elect Hillary, We're not really putting a woman in charge.
- dn11, on 03/22/2008, -1/+25It's not a knock out blow, but Hillary staying in this until summer - continuing to make Obama fight a two front war, continuing to damage him even though he is sure to become the nominee anyway, could be a knock out blow for the Democrats. Unless Billary is even more arrogant and self serving than I even thought they were - they've got to be asking themselves some hard questions at this point. The only possible way she can win is through manipulating the super delegates - and that will pretty much seal her defeat in November.
- inactive, on 03/22/2008, -2/+26... and a Democrat can't win without a big chunk of the black electorate voting for her. They don't even have to vote for somebody else-- just sitting the election out dooms the Democratic candidate.
- Eivo, on 03/22/2008, -5/+28Ok, I can't stand Hillary, but barely half of those are *reasons* to quit. Hell, barely half of those make any ***** sense. I just home you dems can get me an Obama ticket that doesn't have Clinton as the v.p. I really don't want to look into the 3rd party arena this season.
- zspade, on 03/22/2008, -3/+25This sort of schoolyard 'I am rubber and you are glue' mentality doesn't really say a whole lot about your own intellect, sorry.
- wild, on 03/22/2008, -6/+28Honestly, after Hagel's comments this week, I almost (*almost*) want the DNC to rip itself apart. Yes, the ensuing 4 years would be rough. But if Obama is the man I think he is, he and Hagel could come back on 2012 with a new party. One that is bipartisan and carries two of the heaviest hitters on either side of the aisle at the top of a ticket. Both have made refernece to it, Hagel the most clear cut. And since Obama says he highly respects Hagel and would choose him to be his Sec of Defense its a very possible reality.
If I can't have Obama 08, I would go nuts for Obama/Hagel 2012. - adrianmonk, on 03/22/2008, -1/+23But, a highly-relevant fact is that the roles are not reversed.
- Jauladeoro, on 08/27/2008, -2/+22cygnus2112 (Cool name, RUSH fan?) ... Anyway, I'm a non-black Obama supporter and if Clinton is the democratic nominee there is NO WAY I will vote for her. She miscalculated when she figured she could offend and insult all the Obama supporters because she won't need them. She needs us badly and we don't want her after all the dirty tricks and insults.
I will write in Obama - and I hope all Obama supporters would do the same. He could still win that way. - JavanSClark, on 03/22/2008, -4/+23Once again, RRJackson, you are an idiot. As far as you're concerned the only racists in the world are those who stand in the way of White Entitlement. His grandmothers reaction are typical, especially if you factor in her age. As you indicated, in an earlier post, your last concern is the facts, your main concern is twisting the truth to try and paint Obama as a racist, with lies and deception. Check this guys post history, and you'll find it.
- adrianmonk, on 03/22/2008, -2/+21She has been planning this for a long time, and she doesn't want to let a little fact like that there is a better candidate out there stop her.
- shortysmyname, on 03/22/2008, -2/+21Another non-black Obama supporter here, Hillary will no way get my vote either. I will write in Obama. I figure Hillary doesn't have a chance against McCain, and then he'll screw things up after he's elected. So it will be Obama - 2012.
- cambob76, on 03/22/2008, -2/+20Dude it's time to get off the Fox news. They are brainwashing you into being a stupid retard. Oh. Maybe you just are a stupid retard. Either way, STFU.
- executorzz, on 03/22/2008, -3/+21Anybody concerned about number 6:
"7. The Rev. Wright story notwithstanding, the media still wants Obama to be the nominee — and that has an impact every day."
Why do we want our media to have an impact on our election process?? - JR__, on 03/22/2008, -2/+20I watched the speech reverend Wright gave and never understood the controversy. Something about the "chickens coming home to rest" is what offended some people. Basically, reverend Wright was just using that as a metaphor for karma. I saw nothing racist about it.
- dn11, on 03/22/2008, -4/+22Nope. I happen to agree with 95% of everything I've seen Rev Wright say. I've seen anger from Wright, but not hatred. Black Nationalism /= Black separatism. Rev Wright strikes me as a rare thing - a true Christian. A man who was born into oppression but has learned compassion, and teaches his congregation to be empowered - to recognize racism as it still exists and to rise above it to succeed. I think you're just afraid of that message. I think you have to look at your own biases. I have yet to see him say that the white man must be brought down in order for blacks to succeed - I have yet to hear him utter a racial slur against whites. Certainly he hasn't spoken in a way that is compatible with "white" political correctness - his words when played in 30 seconds sound bites are inflammatory - but that completely distorts the meaning
- PATSCRU, on 03/22/2008, -11/+29I don't really buy your "black people would leave" argument, but she is going directly against a huge wave of Obama support.
- dn11, on 03/22/2008, -7/+2515) Your continued campaign can lead to nothing but a permanent rift and ultimate total obliteration of the Democratic party.
- dn11, on 03/22/2008, -1/+18He's a racist against himself and his upbringing? Even though his black father left him at the age of two and his white family sacrificed to raise him right, he is a racist? You've got some explaining to do.
- DeadFox1, on 03/22/2008, -1/+18come on- you didn't think we would fall for the uuiU now, did ya rick?
- smacksaw, on 03/22/2008, -1/+18Perhaps it's a natural effect for a democracy to eventually have a third party. I'm always surprised at how effective a 3-party system is here in Canada. You have the (not-so) Conservatives on the right, the NDP on the socialist left and the Liberals somewhere in the middle.
The Christians can start their own Christian Democratic Party in the US. The Southerners still don't like voting Republican - they just have to because the Democrats are too anti-Christian nowadays. Then you would have your centre-left party of socialists and liberals and your centre-right party of libertarians and non-Christian conservatives.
Of course if we didn't have a Republic, but a parliamentary democracy it would work far better, but that's wishing for a lot at this point. Still, if Obama wins, the Democrats are re-defined and the Republicans will have to purge the religious right to come back. If Obama loses, I think a lot of people are right in that there might be a fracture of the party to create a viable 3rd option. I know a lot of Republicans would jump ship as well. - kirkfarl, on 03/22/2008, -3/+20Mark Penn ruined a sure thing with horrible management skills.
- dizilbdog, on 03/22/2008, -4/+21She's going to go to the Convention and they are going to have to drag that bitch off the stage.... Any other candidate would have quit by now to save face, not her...
- esbern1, on 03/22/2008, -6/+21that really fell apart at the end.
these are just forcing it:
11. If she somehow found a way to win the nomination, she would have to offer Obama the veep slot, and she doesn’t want to do that.
12. This is a change election, and Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton can never truly be change.
13. Obama is having fun most days, and she isn’t.
14. Even though her campaign staff is having more fun than it has for a long time, there’s hardly anyone there who, given half a chance, wouldn’t slit Mark Penn’s throat — and such internal dissension won’t help her in the home stretch. -
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