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- vatosplace, on 09/08/2008, -4/+184The congress/courts can't get BUSHCO to agree to give documents, how in the hell are they going to stop them from destroying records?
- pinkpackrat, on 09/08/2008, -6/+105Do you really think these guys will be intimidated by citizen action???? Naaaaah not in a million years.
- mikemiller1000, on 10/30/2009, -4/+98Oy - just think of how much of the stuff they've already destroyed...
- seltaeb4, on 09/09/2008, -1/+57Here are two vital questions for every American:
What *is it* they are trying to hide? And *why?* - scoot87, on 09/08/2008, -7/+59Retarded Cowboy
- highlymodified, on 09/09/2008, -1/+52All governments are lying *****.
-Bill Hicks
But this one's doing the best job of destroying documentation of how many and whose ***** it sucked. - anachronaut, on 09/09/2008, -0/+31Wow. Apparently people just aren't getting that reference, because you're getting buried pretty hard. Short memories, folks? Too many Bushco scandals to keep track of them all?
"Stop throwing the Constitution in my face," Bush screamed back. "It's just a goddamned piece of paper!"
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/arti ... - duggtodeath, on 09/09/2008, -26/+55IT'S ONLY GODDAMN PIECES OF PAPER!
- dt07, on 09/09/2008, -6/+28Some would go to great lengths to destroy records, including allowing their own buildings to be blown up.
- TheJimid, on 09/09/2008, -2/+20The Executive branch paper shredder motors are burning out as you read this.
- PhilLesh69, on 09/09/2008, -0/+13There was a fire in the OEB on Dec 19th, 2007 which just happened to be in Dick Cheney's office.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?story ...
I can't remember what sort of court proceedings or discovery processes were underway at the time, but I'd be willing to bet that this fire prevented at least some documents from being disclosed under subpoena. - chrgrose, on 09/09/2008, -0/+11All of the horrible things Bush has gotten away with over the last 7 years, the one thing I am most worried about is this. We might never find out the true extent of their corruption.
- hootie233, on 09/09/2008, -3/+13And we all know that theres nothing we can do to stop them.
- mushoo, on 09/09/2008, -1/+11Come on, next time try harder.
Anyone with two neurons on their skull can click on the show button on a buried comment. Or better yet, and this a gasping moment; you might want to save your OMGs, you can go into your settings and set your comment viewing threshold to "SHOW ALL" (you ***** whinny moron).
Whereas in this case none of us has the option to magically retrieve all those destroyed documents.
Concerning you quip about the Clinton's doesn't make any sense. How can you cheat lying and destroying records and lie in their teeth?
Concerning Michelle Obama, I won't dignify your mad ramblings, that is unless you can show all us said thesis. - stretch611, on 09/09/2008, -0/+9Your absolutely right. After all, Bush has already demonstrated on many occasions that he considers himself "above the law." Any change to the PRA will not influence Bush/Cheney.
- duggtodeath, on 09/09/2008, -1/+10Thanks for the back-up :)
- bjornski, on 09/09/2008, -1/+10Dugg, because I saw your invisible /s tag
"Honestly, I think we should just trust our president in every decision that he makes and we should just support that," - some bleach blond binbo - temugen, on 09/09/2008, -0/+9I don't think anyone else caught your sarcasm.
- xieodeluxed, on 09/09/2008, -0/+8I wish I knew which of all of those weird conspiracy stories are true. I'm sure at least one of them are..
- Shiftgood, on 09/09/2008, -4/+12The way to beat McCain is to attack bush.
Justly, but we need to call him on it.
Think about it, try to get recent bush stories up in the MSM.
I know if people talk about it online, someone has to be listening to us. - codyodell, on 09/09/2008, -1/+9Real power is made of people not money, the American people just haven't figured it out yet.
There will be MASS protest soon. for more, see http://www.breakthematrix.com . - rz8472, on 09/09/2008, -0/+8Also all that Bush is concerned about is preserving his legacy in some sort of positive light. That would almost automatically entail destroying records.
- PhilLesh69, on 09/09/2008, -0/+8urazn13, you better hope you aren't into kiddie porn if you believe formatting your drive will eliminate the files.
Hell, even Rosemary Woods knew to erase the 18 1/2 minutes of incriminating evidence on Nixon's secret Oval Office recordings NINE TIMES. Erasing them only once would have allowed restoration of the magnetic material.
That is why even the National Industrial Security Program (DOD 5220.22-M) requires 7 passes with random data when deleting a file.
I hope you realize that when you "delete" a file, all you are doing is replacing the first character of the file name with a ? in the MFT. The data is not touched when you delete a file, it is simply removed from the list of files. - inajeep, on 09/09/2008, -1/+8One of Rove's laws. Shred, burn, deny.
- PhilLesh69, on 09/09/2008, -2/+9Where did I just hear that?
Oh, it was that british comedian that has all the redneck nascar fox news fans up in a tizzy. - rz8472, on 09/09/2008, -5/+12To be succeeded by a retarded moose-hunter.
- weeFred, on 09/09/2008, -0/+7I used to believe that many passes would be needed to make data completely irretrievable until i read this http://16systems.com/zero/index.html
- t3rmv3locity, on 09/09/2008, -1/+8"Stop Bush/Cheney From Destroying Presidential Records"
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"CREW and several historian organizations are also filing a separate lawsuit today, asking a federal judge to declare that Cheney’s records are covered by the Presidential Records Act of 1978 and cannot be destroyed, taken or withheld without proper review."
How exactly can I sway the decision in a federal lawsuit? Bribe the judge? Intimidate the jury? - PhilLesh69, on 09/09/2008, -0/+7That's the beauty of the whole "conspiracy theory" argument. It is merely designed to cast doubt on everything because you know the people making accusations against the virtuous and heroic government official are also believers in UFOs and faked moon landings, and reptilian shape shifters and whatever else.
Rational people just know that if there's more than one explanation for an event, then you cannot believe any of the explanations, no matter how "official" one answer might be. All you can do is know that hardly anybody is telling the truth and that the people asking questions are simply trying to get to the truth. - OJDidIt, on 09/09/2008, -7/+14Did you ever think you should maybe show a little more trust in our President. Maybe if these records are being destroyed it is for our own good, ya know? McCain/Palin '08!!! :)
- PopcornDave, on 09/09/2008, -0/+7If you're going to rant, at least get it right. It was Sandy Burger that removed an uncatalogued document from the archives. And since the document(s) in question had not been archived, we'll never know exactly what it was that he took.
I've never heard of Bill or Hillary actually destroying documents. That's not to say they have or haven't, but I've never heard the accusations. Hiding or stalling like every other politician, perhaps. - PhilLesh69, on 09/09/2008, -0/+7Yes, they pay attention. They consider the "zeitgeist" when reporting. Mostly to debunk everything the people are thinking that isn't in line with the official party line. I've seen examples of it from comments I've made, or comments I've seen other people make, coming up in discussion a few days or a week later.
And you can especially count on both campaigns having a score of people just dredging the blogs, comment areas and other internet resources looking for things to take advantage of or to attack.
Not to mention, there's always the "100th monkey theory", if you get an idea out to enough people it will become common knowledge. - PhilLesh69, on 09/09/2008, -1/+8I used to park in a parking garage in a building on 16th and I st, where one of Bush's appointees was a law partner before he appointed him.
I used to see Shred-it trucks parked out front at least every two weeks.
I also used to see a secret service detail of limousines and chevy blazers parked out front at least once a week.
Don't know if there's any relationship between the two, but you never know. - schroeder, on 09/09/2008, -0/+7Digging down is not censorship. It shows whether you agree with someone or not. I have my threshold set to show buried comments (as well as everyone I know). It gives a sense of responding to a post without words as well as shows the divide in opinions. Being able to see + and - diggs makes this even better. That is the whole point of the buttons. Reporting is the only way for users to censor each other on Digg.
- PhilLesh69, on 09/09/2008, -0/+7He isn't "above the law", but apparently the law doesn't apply to him.
It's that "national security" argument, or the "we're at war" argument.
It's convenient that he started those wars, but whatever. - urazn13, on 09/09/2008, -2/+8At least the records aren't fully digitalized. Cuz then destroying them would be as easy as format c
- blarch, on 09/09/2008, -2/+8he's a Mainenite who moved to Texas so he could pretend to be a cowboy.
- PhilLesh69, on 09/09/2008, -2/+8Ever hear of Rosemary Woods?
- diggenerate, on 09/09/2008, -1/+7then we could use EnCase to recover them.
- ReidFleming, on 09/09/2008, -0/+6You deserved it. You may never get enough thumbs-up to recover, though.
- PhilLesh69, on 09/09/2008, -0/+6dude, like you should keep watching a corporate media outlet owned by an Australian Globalist.
Neoconservatism's most successful strategy was to merge public relations and politics into a seamless operation in which it could use modern marketing methods to convince people to vote against their own interests. - PhilLesh69, on 09/09/2008, -0/+6Whatever happened to that troll?
He swore to stalk my every digg and comment and then the next day his account vanished. - PhilLesh69, on 09/09/2008, -0/+6Do you think we've ever found out about the true extent of any of our past and present politicians' corruption?
I mean, sure, we hear about the ones who the establishment needed to eliminate, the larry craigs and the kwame kilpatricks, etc but they are all corrupt, from the bottom to the top.
Anyone coming to Washington is either corrupted or run out of town to prevent them from exposing the whole mess.
And all the scandals we hear about are really only political hit jobs. Everyone in the system knows about everyone else's vices. They only use them against the other person when it is politically expedient.
As long as you play along, you get along. You can screw philipino boys or suck the dick of a transvestite all you want, as long as you support my legislation, or go along with my plans for war. But as soon as you don't, I'll tell them all about how you love to kill hookers and throw them into the anacostia river. - inactive, on 09/09/2008, -2/+7609 days since joining
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128 diggs a day - mexretroshore, on 09/09/2008, -2/+7War Crimes
- TheSwashbuckler, on 09/09/2008, -2/+7As if a mere law would affect what Bush and Cheney do...
- bjornski, on 09/09/2008, -0/+5Rumor has it he was banned. Probably for just what you explained.
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I got curious and googled it. Found this. http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Ahhhh_Ron_Paul_s ... - souljaboytellem, on 09/09/2008, -0/+5I'm sitting here at school, clicked on this article and i got an error page saying it was blocked for Political/Activist Groups? So school kids aren't allowed to be active in politics anymore? In this land of Democracy i face Communism in my own school district
- Voide, on 09/09/2008, -2/+7Wow man. That takes some balls to say that ***** so blatantly. I do not envy your interaction with the next person knocking at your door.
- meerling, on 09/09/2008, -1/+6Asking them to preserve that info is like asking a criminal to not wipe off the fingerprints.
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