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- CAICEO, on 10/10/2008, -28/+293Even the saner conservatives are beginning to see the light - John McCain/Sarah Palin are BAD FOR THIS COUNTRY! If you truly agree with McCain and put "Country First" then you have the obligation to vote Obama!
- jhbarr, on 10/10/2008, -10/+159Heads are currently exploding at the National Review. That is a good thing.
- texasred54, on 10/10/2008, -9/+144WOW. Just WOW. His dad was the conservative movement! Pass this one along!
- rondeth, on 10/10/2008, -10/+112Thanks for posting this...this is a spot-on article written without breathless hyperbole which often pollutes these opinion pieces.
- jackspade, on 10/11/2008, -5/+86I wonder if deep down, John McCain is disgusted at what his ticket has become?
- magus_melchior, on 10/10/2008, -6/+73"Let me be the latest conservative/libertarian/whatever to leap onto the Barack Obama bandwagon. It’s a good thing my dear old mum and pup are no longer alive. They’d cut off my allowance."
I don't know how much priority his father put on party loyalty. He was pretty intrigued by Obama's rise to fame and his real grassroots approach to campaign organizing. I think he would have refrained from endorsing anyone as Colin Powell had-- he originally thought Clinton would be the candidate and the de facto winner of the general election, and he didn't live to see how the Democratic primary turned out. My guess is, and this is from reading a very small subset of his writings, that Bill Buckley probably would've voted against McCain. Given his firm disapproval of Bush 43 and the incumbent Republicans now in office, I'm thinking he would've gone for Obama, Barr, or Baldwin at the polls.
I saw a part of his last interview with Charlie Rose, and he seemed genuinely disenchanted by the Republican party. He knew that people wanted a change from George Bush and his followers and allies, well before the primaries even started.
This was pretty brave of Chris Buckley. Given the tenor of the conservative media, he will be blasted by his own staff and by every so-called "conservative" as a traitor. One would hope that some more conservatives will read what he wrote and decide whether they want to be the ones arguing against change for the better. - magus_melchior, on 10/10/2008, -4/+62'Dear Pup once said to me sighfully after a right-winger who fancied himself a WFB protégé had said something transcendently and provocatively cretinous, “You know, I’ve spent my entire life time separating the Right from the kooks.”'
Oh, man, that would describe a LOT of talk radio. - audomatix, on 10/11/2008, -4/+61I gotta give it to this guy he isn't doing what I hate. It's funny, I get one vote. I 'm one person so I get one vote. I'd to think I'm an educated voter, I read about politics everyday and I feel a real passion for it. I watch the house of representatives and have multiple sources of news from which I draw my opinion. I actually know economics and understand the meltdown far better than most. I've known about these things that are happening now way in advance from the books I've read and people I have talked to. Yet I only get 1 vote. I voted against bush and opposed this war, I actually actively protested against it and yet one vote....
What is my point? Simply put, one of my votes is equal to one of their votes. The uninformed, the people who take the first thing they hear and hold on to it. These are the people that will say they have payed attention as much as me but can't have a constructive conversation to show it, they'd rather lie and save face. They're the ones who vote this way or that because hey, that's how dad votes, or their boyfriend or girlfriend votes, how their wife or husband votes or how Hollywood or their boss votes. They're the people who vote one way because they don't like someone who is voting the other way. My vote is equal to theirs, the people swallowing propaganda who can't answer questions, who can't debate.
They are so blind it makes me ashamed to be one of their fellow Americans. My daily researched, well informed vote will be canceled out by an idiot who claims they know when they know nothing at all. The ignorance is absolutely humbling
Don't vote one way because your parents vote that way. Go out and learn for yourself, then vote. Don't be a ***** sheep. - FlaG8r, on 10/10/2008, -4/+51Don't worry Chris, the kooks are separating themselves from the rest of America right now.
- Depthfunction, on 10/11/2008, -4/+47It's hard to believe how any reasonable person would vote for McCain at this point. By the time election day rolls around all that will be left in Republican party will be a bunch of racists, creationists, and homophobes.
A landslide is coming, better get out of the way! - EternalParadox5, on 10/11/2008, -7/+48Hey my dad is voting Obama too! He originally was voting McCain, but then saw the debate where McCain was wandering around like he was lost, and switched his vote. It was a great day.
- Wryly, on 10/11/2008, -7/+38Surprised that a conservative would vote Democratic? Not. This. Time.
- strangewill, on 10/11/2008, -5/+31"Only 4 years ago Obama admitted he did not have the experience to be President."
Source? First time I've heard this, and you know the Republicans would be raping this all over Fox if they had a soundbite of it. - darkciti2, on 10/11/2008, -1/+27His dad was the farthest thing from a neo-con.
He was a true conservative.
Neocons are fascist and anti-liberties.
Today, the true conservatives are libertarians. The radical right are the "republicans"/neo-cons - longat, on 10/11/2008, -3/+28This is frankly amazing. When the very conservative have now started endorsing "the other side". I have hope that Obama will win, I have hope. The mindless assassinations of character have turned what I viewed to be an honest and civil election into something ugly. I am pleased to see that there are others who might not share my opine for every civil liberty, but share my disgust at those who would attack me for my thoughts. Thank you Mr. Buckley, you as well have given me some hope.
- p9s50W5k4GUD2c6, on 10/11/2008, -3/+25Conservative though he was, Mr. Buckley was an eloquent orator.
He would likely find warm appeal in Obama's intellect - and, like George WIll, much disgust in Mr. McCain. - magus_melchior, on 10/10/2008, -1/+23I compared Bill Buckley's writings with the stuff they're putting out today.
The difference is like night and day. I strongly advise everyone to read Bill Buckley through the archives, not the paranoid trash they are dressing up as "news" or "commentary". - Syric, on 10/11/2008, -3/+25Buckley's voting for Obama, from what I can tell, A) because McCain's gone downhill, and B) because even if he doesn't agree with him, he at least respects the man's intellect and character.
Sounds like a reasonable basis for deciding a vote. - FENWAYFREAK, on 10/11/2008, -2/+24John McCain has changed. He said, famously, apropos the Republican debacle post-1994, “We came to Washington to change it, and Washington changed us.” This campaign has changed John McCain.
That couldn't be a truer statement. I am hoping that John McCain can go back to his old self after the election, win or not. - Chordonblue, on 10/11/2008, -0/+21There was NOTHING 'neo' about Buckley. Do your homework. It sucks to see his legacy smeared like this.
- inactive, on 10/11/2008, -3/+24Sorry dad, since there are no real conservatives to vote for, just rabid fascist racist Nazis who are raping the country to the ground, I guess ill have to vote for the other guys.
- ErickStevenson, on 10/11/2008, -3/+24I don't know if this will sway the republican base, the fact that people still believe Obama is a muslim just says a lot about how these people think. I can't even stand watching McCain's rallies, it's like watching a lynch mob get ready to go to town with the black folks, and it has gotten worse and worse. And that ***** synical laugh he has everytime he speaks! And he changes policies so much it's hard to keep up with this guy, as soon as something is convenient that's what he jumps on. Too many backwards people living in this country, I just hope Obama wins this election. I would love to see a third party but seriously they have no chance in winning this and I rather have Obama than McCain.
People who say race is not an issue here, it sure has a lot of effect in changing peoples mind. I have asked people who support McCain and the only reason 50% of them are voting for him because Obama is black, the other 50% thinks his muslim or they don't know Obama, then ask them if they know Palin and they give you that look, well she's a soccer mom thing. - BobbyMC, on 10/11/2008, -4/+24I'm voting for Obama BECAUSE I want Ron Paul. It isn't simply that it is a wasted vote, but rather that Obama's election is the only realistic world to get to a point where men like Dr. Paul can be elected. Obama is a hell of a lot better than most, and I still believe he is hiding a lot of the liberal cards for play after the election. Better yet, if he is elected we then have a country that has defied over 200 years of the same and has taken a giant step into what has been for so long the unknown.
I firmly believe that when McCain loses it is the end of the neocons. If this country turns away McCain, it will turn them all away. The only type of Republican that will have a chance after that sort of total shutdown is a man like Paul, and we find ourselves in a circumstance where no matter whether he runs as a Republican or independent, 4 years from now there is an infinitely greater chance he can be elected compared to today's 0 chance.
As a final note, let me add that I'd be more supportive of a Paul vote if he hadn't chosen to run against the impossibly unfair odds of the Republicans since the beginning. As a write in he has no chance, but the movement could have been made greater if he had taken the (admittedly tainted) place of Nader in this election. Instead, Nader replaced Nader. - Azriel7, on 10/11/2008, -5/+23A lot of people said the same thing about Kerry/Bush in 2004 and we know how THAT turned out. Even if you are a heavily Obama supporting area, do you want to give Mccain even a 1% chance of being president? I do understand how you feel and in an idealistic world I would be with you, however it WILL be one of these two men who will be president and by avoiding giving support to the better candidate you could inadvertently give support to the worse candidate. A lot of people who did not vote or voted 3rd party for the bush/kerry 2004 election have regretted it and wished they had voted to make a difference. Hopefully, none of us will regret our choices this election.
- roxgod666, on 10/11/2008, -2/+20Has anyone noticed that the republican party is especially disgraceful this year? Did they forget that Obama is only half black/Christian/American/ivy league student? I don't think i have ever seen such a large generalization and stereotyping of someone just by their skin color. I think its safe to say an extreme Republican supporter is as bad as a Nazi.
- eliot2000, on 10/11/2008, -3/+21He wrote the hell out of that piece.
Seriously, that was fantastic. - TimDigg, on 10/11/2008, -1/+18You underestimate how many people in this country are racists, creationists and homophobes.
- jonmlm, on 10/11/2008, -4/+20waaahhh
- dinot, on 10/11/2008, -2/+18I know. Your candidate has driven away everyone that used to be on his side. How sad indeed.
- seantubridy, on 10/11/2008, -4/+18s0m31john is a socialist. He just admitted it.
- MrARPA, on 10/11/2008, -1/+14Let's hope this is a sign of things to come. The Republicans need to lose the election badly which might pressurise them to begin "separating the Right from the kooks.”.
- TheOmbudsman, on 10/11/2008, -2/+15He might have his father's blessing; Buckley Sr. was no fan of the current crop of neocon ideologues. I believe not long before his death he said that the conservative movement should go out into the woods and cleanse itself.
- MrARPA, on 10/11/2008, -0/+13Buckley summed up the way I feel about McCain. It's as if he has slowly become poisoned by the fundamental nastiness that the Republican party seems to exhibit.
- dinot, on 10/11/2008, -3/+15That word "SOCIALIST". Explain what the means to you.
Really. I encourage you to reply. - Cavemonster, on 10/11/2008, -1/+13I hope it was the issues and not the wandering that changed his mind.
- inactive, on 10/11/2008, -2/+13What the hell? I thought digg banned your ass after I reported you for making death threats.
Oh wait this is a new account.
Alex jones is a scam artist who takes advantages of gullible idiots like yourself. - BotchaMcCoola, on 10/11/2008, -2/+14There is no big contradiction. Bush and friends are the worst consevatives and worst Republicans in history. We are only just now seeing how drunk at the wheel he has been. Keep that cretin off TV and give us some hope of recovery.
- seantubridy, on 10/11/2008, -1/+13I bet you think using his middle name will scare people the way it scares you. How sad for you. It must suck to be so ignorant, angry and afraid.
- sicksb, on 10/11/2008, -2/+14this is a conservative.
- enigmatics, on 10/11/2008, -2/+13While he may be inexperienced compared to time spent in public office I think the thing people don't often think about is the President's cabinet, among other things. The president does not lead alone. I believe Obama will be the best choice in that regard because he will bring in the most experienced people in their respective fields to head them regardless of political affiliation. By doing that he will surround himself with more than enough experience to counter his younger age, not to mention he wont be surrounded by yes men, but those who think critically and for themselves and the people they serve.
That is more important than any experience a single person could have.
/edit F, this was supposed to be a response to chrisbasham and BikerDude69 at the top but digg ate it and put it at the bottom.. - paintgrl, on 10/11/2008, -2/+13Puddles where are you Puddles? Have you seen my dog Puddles. What McCain was saying as he was wandering the stage.
From The Daily show - trafficlight, on 10/11/2008, -1/+11I don't think he has any grasp of his situation at all.
- readacook, on 10/11/2008, -2/+12Good call. I'm a pretty big Obama supporter, but if McCain ran his campaign the way he wanted instead of how the GOP told him it had to be run, it'd be a choice between two good candidates.
Unfortunately, McCain sold his soul and distanced himself from everything about him that was most appealing. - MelvinSchlubman, on 10/11/2008, -2/+11"Dad, you'll be glad to know I'm a conservative and big enough to take my country's interests seriously, and not one of those extremist nutjobs who call themselves conservatives."
- Mark2600, on 10/11/2008, -0/+9I'm also a conservative that is jumping on that Obama bandwagon... After watching the debates, and doing my research on both candidates... How can I NOT vote for Obama?
I know "niceness" shouldn't factor into my vote, but, how can you even find one negative thing to say about Obama? The guy is as ordinary as any of us, and seems to be that way when the cameras are off. McCain comes off as a 100% prick... I voted for George W. Bush the second time around... I won't make that same mistake again in casting my vote for McCain. - trizzlelv, on 10/11/2008, -0/+9You hate Xbox AND Obama? Man, you and I would never get along.
- migshark, on 10/11/2008, -0/+9If the Keating affair resulted in him openly remarking upon the degradation of his honour, then, as long as he's not senile, he's really going to hate himself after this.
Imagine selling your soul for magical beans that aren't really magical. - darkciti2, on 10/11/2008, -1/+10I think his point remains. Do we need a "wandering" President or a Leader?
Obama '08 - senseofit, on 10/11/2008, -2/+11Mr Buckley has sent a very clear message that it is time for a new direction.
- aznpwnzor, on 10/11/2008, -1/+10yah, he can't stop bullets to save his life
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