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- jenniferstruth, on 02/01/2008, -2/+51Too many of our soldiers are coming home not only physically scarred but emotionally, they are battered and bloodied. The reality of war has devastated our soldiers. We sent them to Iraq with orders to shoot on sight anything that moves. We turned our young men and women into killers and then pay private armies five times more. Support the troops; the irony of that statement. *shaking head* True support of our troops is demanding they be brought home. True support of our troops is impeaching the bastards who sent them there to die for a lie. The think tanks have all bought and paid for plenty of commercials and ads to make you feel like unless you support the war, you do not support the troops; as if supporting their death is some noble cause. Understand the only reason this war is happening is because there are many individuals whom have vested financial interest in maintaining this war. Follow the money. Have you ever heard of the saying "order from chaos"? The ruling elite or the Council on Foreign Relations/Bilderberg/Club of Rome elite have stated that there goal is the depopulation of our earth and to restore order after they create the chaos. In other words, break the country with our bombs and guns (who gets paid for supplying those guns and bombs?) then come in and re-build the country in our own image, to "bring democracy" to the region. (who gets paid for the re-building of all those buildings?) The absolute truth is we here in America are guilty of war-crimes. At this point we have allowed war criminals and war profiteers to set our countries mentality and objective toward this war, which has made us just as guilty. We are endorsing their policies with our silence. The troops are the first victims on our side, we will be next.
Peace, Love and Respect,
Jen - inactive, on 02/01/2008, -14/+55That's why the majority of contributions from active duty military and veterans like me go to the only candidate who will end our involvement in Iraq.
If you think we should continue these undeclared and unending wars vote for someone other than Ron Paul . - sherrife, on 02/01/2008, -2/+39The American ruling class cares for the average American about as much as they care for the average Iraqis who they have been slaughtering for the past few years. Soldiers, workers, students, we're all the same thing to the ruling class capitalists; people to be exploited for profit and power.
- sherrife, on 02/01/2008, -2/+34"The biggest killer of US soldiers serving in Iraq is not the resistance - it's suicide. While in 2005 825 soldiers died in active duty in Iraq, CBS recently revealed that a staggering 6,256 returned soldiers - over seven times as many - took their own lives.
The toll outside 2005 is unknown - the government refuses to keep a tally. CBS's conservative estimate is that 12,000 have taken their lives. If 2005 is representative of the whole period of the Iraq war, 25,000 is a more realistic assumption"
http://www.sa.org.au/index.php?option=com_content& ... - medalian1, on 02/01/2008, -13/+41Yeah I like how everyone wears shirts and stickers on their car that says they 'support the troops' or some bull like that. Then they vote for someone other than Ron Paul, so we can stay in Iraq for 100 years and have more wars. Great job Amerika!
- TritonX, on 02/01/2008, -2/+25I guess fighting an illegal war is not very good for the moral.
- jenniferstruth, on 02/01/2008, -8/+30Also, Kucinich was a great candidate and so is Gravel. There are anti-war candidates, it is just that those who control the media are pro-war. Not because they believe in the mission, they are pro-war because they are making rediculous profits from the deaths of brown people. Follow the money and all is understood, like 911.
Now though Ron Paul is the only candidate to vote for, I hope that everyone realizes that.
jen - Bagos1, on 02/01/2008, -1/+21Support our troops. Get them home and get them back into the world intact. Stop using our soldiers for economic gain.They swore an oath to protect us and to do that with the only thing they own, their lives. Stop wasting their lives.
- Rotzooi, on 02/01/2008, -0/+15But the world is safer! ...
- wufoo, on 02/01/2008, -0/+13Did we still need more reasons to bring them home?
- missingalaska, on 02/01/2008, -2/+14Look around. You will find the number of suicides upon return is closer to 15,000! Never reaches the news.
- raada, on 02/01/2008, -0/+12Reality of war will devastate anyone with a conscience...
- h3lx, on 02/01/2008, -1/+12Sarcasm so thick you can chew it.
- simplicityiskey, on 02/01/2008, -0/+10This is a good story, and an important one. Thank you for posting it. While this is important, it is also very important to put this in perspective and investigate how the Army's suicide rate compares to the suicide rate of the rest of the country. The only stats I could find were for 2004, and the article didn't have comparable stats for that year, but it put total suicides at 12.5 per 100,000. Nevertheless, 17.5 is 17.5 too much and we need to do something to help these people.
- solarsavior, on 02/01/2008, -1/+10@TritonX
"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."
-George Orwell - Plinkotic, on 02/01/2008, -1/+10The people you kill or see die stay in your head until you pass. If you're a sociopath then it usually isn't an issue; normal men and women end up with trouble sleeping and worse. These soldiers under a lot of stress. Maybe no more so than any other soldier in any other army, but we now recognize it better. I'm not saying I know the answer or a fix, but for their sakes don't let it be ignored by the gov't. Keep it in the media, make it something the politicians have no choice but to talk about.
- lnf69, on 02/01/2008, -4/+13So who is really [morally] supporting our troops?
a) pro-war advocates, who support sending them there and keeping them there
b) anti-war advocates, who support getting them out of there asap.
c) no one, really. - pintomp3, on 02/01/2008, -4/+12i'm so glad we keep going to war on behalf of israel.
- lazerus9, on 02/01/2008, -3/+11Do you think that being showered with depleted uranium may have something to do with it?
- greevar, on 02/01/2008, -0/+7You have hope in one hand and ***** in the other. Which will fill up first by the end of the day?
- ispellkonfusion, on 02/01/2008, -0/+7Bring our troops home!
- tommy7154, on 02/01/2008, -10/+17He's the only one running that will stop the crash of the dollar, among a thousand other things nobody else cares about until it's too late. Do you even really understand what that means for us and the country? Hate Ron Paul all you want but open your eyes and educate yourself on all their policies and look at where everyone stands and the direction they're going to take this country in. Our country is ***** unless we get someone that's ACTUALLY going to make some changes into office, and quick.
Where do you think the government is getting all this money they're going to hand out to us to "stimulate" the economy? We sure as ***** don't have it. Just more debt
...ugh I wish people would wake up. - JustJulieNC, on 02/01/2008, -3/+10Of course some one may write me off as another crazy person supporting a man "who can't win" for President; but I'll take that chance to point out a few things.
1. Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate who supports bringing the troops home.
2. He has voted CONSISTENTLY every time AGAINST our illegal occupation of Iraq.
I will vote my beliefs this election year! And I am voting with my time & money, too. Thank you Ron Paul.
Other points for me; eliminate Income Tax & the IRS; they are against the Constitution.
Support our Troops;
Bring them HOME from an illegal war they can't win.
Don't take my word for it; but don't let the Media tell you who to vote for either.
Check out http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/ to make an educated decision. - amirman, on 02/01/2008, -0/+6***** you! how is that selfish? if they had children i could see it as being selfish otherwise they own their own life. no one else has a right to their life.
- pintomp3, on 02/01/2008, -1/+7he will just call them phony soldiers, deny it, and change the transcripts.
- tgc1, on 02/01/2008, -1/+7Somehow, I doubt the numbers of suicides post-deployment are listed among the casualty figures. This 3,000 soldiers killed b.s. is vastly under reported. I bet if you were to look at those suffering from PTSD and other ailments related directly to war, you'd come up with a hell of a lot bigger a figure. More like multiply the above by about 50 and you'd get a more realistic number.
- h3lx, on 02/01/2008, -0/+6Apparently.
- greevar, on 02/01/2008, -0/+6Why in the hell do they need to convert to Christianity? I thought America believed in freedom of religion? I will not stand for any such hypocrisy. This is an occupation, plain and simple. Our government loves occupations. Remember WWI and WWII? After WWI concluded the allied nations divided Germany into American, French, and Russian sectors. After WWII America occupied Japan. The ruling class LOVE occupations, because it makes them filthy stinking RICH!
- BobOki, on 02/01/2008, -1/+6WE, the Americans have not profited from a single day of this illegal war.
While is pretty ***** easy for a douchebag like yourself to say "get an accountable democracy" i think you fail to realize that the country has been HIJACKED essentially from the masses, and to "take it back" would be the same as going to war against Americas military. I don't see you jumping up and down volunteering. - manicallday, on 02/01/2008, -0/+5I wonder if this will lead to the enactment of legislation, which provides veterans with the physiological help they need.
- lazerus9, on 02/01/2008, -3/+8Quit spreading disinformation;http://www.cadu.org.uk/intro.htm
- lnf69, on 02/01/2008, -0/+5So every piece of news you don't like must be some "leftest fact distortion"?
Are you saying that going to war has no negative affects on a person?
Are you saying that any complaining about the war is just some more "Leftist Propaganda"?
Can we expect the truth only from the right? - markgl, on 02/01/2008, -1/+6Dang, look at all the psychologist here at digg. I feel honored to be here.
- greevar, on 02/01/2008, -0/+5Anything above zero is too much.
- LokitheComplex, on 02/01/2008, -2/+7Are you really saying 911 was an inside job?
- Observant1, on 02/01/2008, -4/+9most of that junk made in china and sold thru hillary's pet WalMart, funneling money and jobs out of the US for years.
- jeexbit, on 02/01/2008, -0/+5More US soldiers died from suicide after Vietnam than in actual combat there. Terrible...
- pintomp3, on 02/01/2008, -0/+4isroil.
- CuddyBuddy, on 02/01/2008, -0/+4Most of us see and read only the statistics about war in newspapers...these are real people who have been through traumatic stuff, I mean, lived through it...some of them simply snap...perhaps wars are necessary evils, but there should be some way to comfort those who have been in the thick of it all!
- pintomp3, on 02/01/2008, -1/+5gravel is still in the race.
- Phrag, on 02/01/2008, -0/+4Where are you from?
- lnf69, on 02/01/2008, -0/+4Well I took about 5 minutes to search out the "male female ratio in us military". Since you try to compare suicide rate for males verses suicide rate in the military, I think you would need to show that the ratio of men to women is so small that would have no effect on your own calculations.
I guess that's what the news is here. - Phrag, on 02/01/2008, -1/+5Yeah. Damn you 'lefties'. Why can you be completely honest like those on the 'right'... partisan crap FLT!
If you want information, don't sit there waiting for someone to hand it to you. Go get it. From what I can find, there are about 500,000 active duty Army soldiers in Iraq. 121 suicides means equals 0.025% of those troops in one year. There are about 300,000,000 people in America and about 30,000 commit suicide every year. That means the average suicide rate in Americans is 0.01%. That shows that the suicide rate in the Army is two and a half times higher than the national average. Its even worse when you consider that the national average takes into account people who have mental and behavior problems and are at a higher risk of suicide. I'm assuming that we don't let clinically depressed people into the army (I could be completely wrong on that one) so I think the ratio would be even higher is we compared the suicide rate of people in the army to the suicide rate of civilians who are capable of serving in the army. - amirman, on 02/01/2008, -0/+4don't you know how to do a mouseover?
- thefandango, on 02/01/2008, -0/+4she's from the netherlands
- MrTulip, on 02/01/2008, -3/+6are you serious? after impact the uranium turns to a fine dust which then ignites and leaves an aerosol of floating particles made of uranium oxide and uranium. that stuff can easily be inhaled and suddenly your alpha radiation isn't so harmless anymore.
excellent link (in german though): http://www.physik.uni-oldenburg.de/Docs/puma/radio ... - Erich100, on 02/01/2008, -0/+3The reality of war should stop anyone with a conscience from actively starting one or two or three.
- BobOki, on 02/01/2008, -0/+3HAHAH It seems people do not understand sarcasm,... next time try putting "< /sarcasm.>" at the end of your post.
- BobOki, on 02/01/2008, -1/+4But... if we leave that place... they will have to fight for themselves...... not like they are not already doing that... against us.
- BobOki, on 02/01/2008, -0/+3I prefer Gravel more than the other two front runners, but being honest, hes just too "out there" to be electable.
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