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Seung-Hui Cho Was a Mind Controlled Assassin

prisonplanet.com — Seung-Hui Cho was a mind-controlled assassin, even aside from clear evidence of influence from outside parties, the fact is that the cultural brainwashing of violent video games and psychotropic drugs directly contributed, as it does in all these cases, to the carnage at Virginia Tech on Monday morning.

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  • ttravis84, on 10/12/2007, -8/+43No doubt... the timing, the convenience, the inconsistencies, the obvious facts, government black op as usual. It never ends sometimes.
    • SherlockReport, on 10/12/2007, -12/+33It's the picture of Hui in the Marines uniform that makes me wonder, along with the fact that he only had the guns for a month, but used them and acted like an accomplished assassin.
    • kluikart, on 10/12/2007, -11/+37The sheeple believe that burning jet fuel pulverizes concrete, so I'm sure they won't blink at the MS media story of some untrained college student just buying a gun last month then shooting and reloading with accuracy.
    • dshPls, on 10/12/2007, -41/+15ROFL!

      Prison Planet and Alex Jones have really outdone themselves with this one.


      I mean this is comparable to the deathstar/inside job thing.
    • MarkCiccone, on 10/12/2007, -36/+15This is hysterical. Mind controlled black-op agent. Right.
    • NoOneButMe, on 10/12/2007, -36/+8You would know how an accomplished assassin works? let alone an assassin?

      And as for the jet fuel thing? It didnt have to melt the damn steel completely. It just had to weaken it enough so that it would collapse under the weight of the rest of the building.
    • mrharvey518, on 10/12/2007, -33/+10dshpls
      I know that you are laughing as hard as I am on this one. I mean, wow. I almost WANT it to get to the front page because I know that others will really enjoy this one.

      "Seung-Hui Cho was a mind-controlled assassin" They call themselves Truthers but this is a completely unfounded claim.

      "Either way you cut it, Seung-Hui Cho was a victim of brainwashing and mind control." This guy was a loony who should have been locked up years before this. But it had to be either of these two options. Idiots.
    • dshPls, on 10/12/2007, -34/+15Yeah, I almost dugg it because of the shock/laugh value. Then I realized 32 people died, and no matter what, that isn't a joke. Alex Jones loves when tragedy strikes, because he can exploit emotion to get his name out. He's just gonna spin this and suck it for the next couple of years, always claiming there's amazing proof, but never offering it.

      There's no proof, only crazed imagination. I want concrete evidence that this super assassin on LSD who played Halo 2 somehow managed to act with the government.
    • gmason08, on 10/12/2007, -8/+24What I find most interesting in these cases is that the pharmaceutical aspect receives relatively little attention.(power/influence of pharma industry?)

      Guns have been available for a long time. Insane people have and will remain a percentage of the population. The widespread drugging of individuals with psychotropic drugs generally coincides w/ the increase in both frequency and severity of these type of atrocities.

      The first few minutes of this documentary are compelling:
      http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3609599239524875493&q=DRUGGING%2BOF%2BOUR%2BCHILDREN
    • crillbilly, on 10/12/2007, -23/+10The videos he made and sent out were made TWO years before he even shot anyone... therefore, the guns in the videos were not the ones he used in the shootings. You idiots say that he only had the guns he used for a month... but do you honestly think that those where the only guns he's ever used. Besides, I'm really sure the "Big Bad Gov." wanted to kill a hand full of college students. Stop sucking Jack Thompson's dick.
    • dforty3, on 10/12/2007, -5/+25Whenever people are terrorized into giving up Constitutional rights, we should really take a thorough look at what s really going on.

      How many people realize Tim McVeigh was in the MK Ultra program?

      http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd119.htm

      ^^^ From this article... "For those who think this is silly stuff or conspiracy theories, in McVeigh's Second Trial, you will read excerpts from the actual Senate hearings by Adm. Stansfield Turner on the government's mind control projects (MK ULTRA). In the book, Bluebird: Deliberate Creation of Multiple Personality by Colin A. Ross, MD, you will read the proof based on 15,000 pages of documents obtained under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) from the CIA, which prove the Manchurian Candidate was not fiction, but fact."
    • DigitalOmnivore, on 10/12/2007, -12/+3This wasn't mind control.

      The picture of him in the military uniform looks a whole lot like one of the character models from counterstrike, could that be what he was dressing up as?

      Anyway, if you want a common thread in these shootings, it's a simple one. The shooter is always on prozac or some legal mind destroying substance that was perscribe to them because they sought help for their problems. The field of psychology has always been a joke, and feeding people prozac is the chemical equivalent of giving them lobotomies, only worse, since they do not become placid, they become homicidal.

      While it is trendy for leftists today to claim about the "BIG PHARMA" comapnies, this is more likely a case of a quack field commiting one more act of quackery on the general population. The media barely even touches on this common link, yet it's there.

    • dforty3, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15I'm not saying it's definitely a Mind Control incident, but I am suggesting that this seems suspicious and you shouldn't rule it out. I don't doubt that Prozac is destructive, but it is used so widely that if it routinely led to turning people into mass-murdering suicidal psychopaths, then I'd have to imagine the VT incident would be the rule, not the exception.

      So I don't see how you can just rule it out. We know the MK Ultra program has existed since the 1950's.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i46RI2twVao
    • sollycardy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12Mind control (the history channel):
      http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=-2927316845773056069
    • DigitalOmnivore, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6I don't think prozac turns everyone into psycho killers (obviously) but it's also obvious that all of these people have looked for help, which is why they were on the drugs. It's also becoming apparent that while prozac (or just SSRI's) may not turn everyone into psycho killers, it sure does seem to be a common theme among them.

    • JBURNES, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3One of the first things that the media did was go to the gun shop that he bought his gun, The owner said that he spent almost $550 on a gun with ONE clip. Did you get that ONE CLIP!!!!!!!!!!! how did he get off more than 100 shot with only one clip!!!!!!! One student interview said that he was loaded down with ammo. Where did he get all the extra clips to hold all the ammo!!!!!!!!
  • gonegoogling, on 10/12/2007, -11/+20Also the timing people, always mid april...????
  • dibdidit, on 10/12/2007, -7/+22Humanity never needed a video game to do horrible thing! Since the dawn of time there as been murderer. Video games exist for less than 30 years....
  • njpublius, on 10/12/2007, -10/+41It is a DOCUMENTED FACT that certain groups within the CIA, DoD and other government agencies have experimented on unknowing citizens.

    This includes LSD, atomic bomb radiation, poison; etc.

    The VERY REAL possibility that Cho was some type of "Manchurian Candidate" exists -- of couse the government won't admit anything. They'll just claim "national security."

    • COMPACTION, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11Funny how he went somewhere for a few hours everyday and nobody knew where he went.
  • choppasizzle, on 10/12/2007, -11/+34100% ACCURATE! Also, if you are watching the mainstream media's coverage of this you are seeing the same pattern after 9/11 - constant parroting of the same story.
    • KMye, on 10/12/2007, -15/+5That's because they want to fill up ~12 hours of air time each day with a high-ratings story that only takes about ~5 minutes to tell. Jesus ***** offensive christ...
    • ryanmm, on 10/12/2007, -21/+11you know what sounds MORE like constant parroting?

      Conspiracy! Cover-Up! Government Lies! 9/11!
    • ryanmm, on 10/12/2007, -19/+3doh double post, digg needs a delete button :(
  • kluikart, on 10/12/2007, -7/+32No way he only had guns for a month. If Americans weren't so afraid of guns, they would know that you don't just pick up a gun and shoot and reload with accuracy unless you have trained. Most police officers cannot even shoot with this type of precision.
  • ttravis84, on 10/12/2007, -10/+17Hey dibdidit... the top 10 school shootings rated by death toll are all many years after 1970. Before 1970 there are practically none done by students, and if so the student has 1 target in mind. The fact is we know video games are used to keep the subject of these ops further desensitized from reality. In the experiments key words or simulated suicide end the torture or pain that the doctors would be imposing on the would be assassin. Please read some declassified government documents before you shoot your mouth off.
  • refugeechris, on 10/12/2007, -27/+9too bad there is no evidence in this article AT ALL-- prsionplanet sounds like nancy ***** reagan with their anti video game rhetoric
    • ttravis84, on 10/12/2007, -10/+27No evidence? Why would the pentagon help create the first person shooter DOOM or Full Spectrum Warrior, and many others as well. (I guess they help national defense huh)... Look it up dude, that is mainstream knowledge. This is not all due to video games, but it is a contributing factor without a doubt. Like the government does not know the desensitizing effects of video games? Get real.
    • dshPls, on 10/12/2007, -14/+9So DOOM led him to do this? Do you have any evidence he even played DOOM?



      PS, this falls under NEDM.
    • thenativeraver, on 10/12/2007, -6/+4Wolfenstein 3D For the win!!!
  • baiken, on 10/12/2007, -7/+17Here's the direct link to the picture of Cho in his marine fatigues, now pulled from wikipedia:

    http://www.prisonplanet.com/images/april2007/190407killer.jpg
    • EntropyMan, on 10/12/2007, -12/+7Um, that doesn't actually look like him -- unless you think all Asians look alike...
    • MAdaXe42, on 10/12/2007, -12/+2Except it has his name on the top.
    • dshPls, on 10/12/2007, -9/+7No it doesnt, actually.
    • crillbilly, on 10/12/2007, -5/+9That nametape says "Hu". Don't know how you got Cho out of that....
    • sollycardy, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2from his last name i suppose: Cho Seung-Hui

      It looks like him to me... but it is hard to tell with half his face covered
  • refugeechris, on 10/12/2007, -26/+13sheeple? your the one who believes whatever alex jones says...
  • tsoldrin, on 10/12/2007, -14/+12What's with all the scary 'violent video game' references? That's just scare tactics, besides being completely false. When did prisonplanet start taking pages from the neocon playbook?
    • smittysize, on 10/12/2007, -7/+11the fact that you like playing video games has you completely ignoring the mountain of scientific research linking video games to desensitization, lower empathy levels, and firing rate. in your mind, whether you know it or not, you feel that any attack on video games is an attack on you and what you like to do. well, get over it...i like playing video games too on occasion...but you cannot deny that some people develop an altered sense of reality and desensitization as a result of continual playing. just google the studies, they're everywhere.
    • refugeechris, on 10/12/2007, -7/+6and you think any attack period is carried out by the government....and by attacking an aspect of one's character you are attacking the person. watch. christianity makes people believe ***** lunatics. I'm not talking about you though....just christianity

      also, people go crazy from reading certain books, seeing beavis and butthead, etc. you want to attack books and tv? Point being you can't hold a medium accountable for the actions of some user of the medium
    • tsoldrin, on 10/12/2007, -7/+10I don't have time to play video games, but I can smell bs. There are no credible studies linking games to anything besides time wasting. This whole line of reasoning has been discredited and by continuing it, it discredits everything else they say. Then again, these are the same folks who think the world is 6000 years old and dinosaurs were people's pets in biblical times.

    • nblsavage, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7@smittysize - why don't you google them and post the links if they are indeed "everywhere"
  • refugeechris, on 10/12/2007, -10/+12prisonplanet, without admitting it, is really very far right. Whereas bush is a phoney conservative, PP heeds very traditionally cons. values.
    • tsoldrin, on 10/12/2007, -9/+5I know... I actually think they're some of the only remaining true conservatives... and they usually adhere to the 'good' parts of conservatism such as small government and fiscal responsibility... but linking video games in this article is just bad journalism. The guy wasn't a gamer.
    • kluikart, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13Who cares if they have conservative views? What does that have to do with the VT shooting?
    • refugeechris, on 10/12/2007, -9/+2well, they're blaming videogames......
    • BravoLima, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Prison Planet has NEVER represented itself as Left or Right, because that is Hegelian Dialectic
      doublespeak; nevertheless, what sort of idiot would think PP was Liberal??? Reduce the dosage!
  • hiphoc, on 10/12/2007, -4/+23This just goes to show how the gov't works. If they are backed up against a wall, they can activate 100 VTech's or Columbines. Digg will kill this story. Re post on your own blog and try to get that on digg, Email, tell friends. I didn't even know much about Columbine but when I heard about this on Monday, I said fishy. Imus for 1 week, Cho for 1 week, Anna Nicole Smith 1 month. Distract folks from the real. Lets take this out of the web and into real life before our cousins, friends and relatives are gunned down in schools and malls. This could be us or our family. FOLKS THIS ***** IS PERSONAL!!!!
  • biggD, on 10/12/2007, -5/+19This is a terrible tragedy. My sympathy goes out to all the victims and families.

    I agree that there is a lot to suggest government involvement here. Thank you Mr. Watson for bringing these out so clearly.

    It seems to me that a society's attitude towards guns, like alcohol or anything else is telling. Culturally, we seem bi-polar in our attitude towards them. We commonly exhibit paralyzing fear or fanatical obsession.

    Fear of guns exposes an individual or a society to abuse. If we allow ourselves to be disarmed, and put our trust in others to manage guns, we risk those we entrust becoming corrupt and no longer acting in our best interest. On the other hand, an obsession with guns leaves us similarly vulnerable to crazed individuals. As long as we are polarized on this issue, it will remain a point of vulnerability.

    Somewhere between the poles is a healthy attitude towards guns. The point of mastering the use of a weapon is so that you will be able to, when required (hopefully never). That is really all there is to it. Glorifying weaponry is a perversion, and fearing them is a delusion.

  • swrostmore, on 10/12/2007, -15/+5hahahaha! too soon? i dont think so.

    ...wait, this isnt a joke?
  • tsoldrin, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11Better article, same subject but without the bs added on: http://kurtnimmo.com/?p=835
  • xrox, on 10/12/2007, -5/+16Better go get a piece while you can folks.Only a blind person could not see through this crap.Support Rosie as she makes it a point to say something everyday about the truth on The View.
  • refugeechris, on 10/12/2007, -12/+4Aspects of the Fed Funded the development of videogames just like they fund most all new technologies. They also helped fund SLR digital camera production, is that part of the New World Order plot? They fund them so they can use them, in this case, for military training. What's wrong with that? All of prison planets followers are crazy Christians who fear technology. Yes the government is incredibly corrupt, inept and deceitful. But that doesn;t mean citizens don't lash out on their own accord.
    In the world of conspiracy's, there are no coincidences.
    I think alex jones usually provides VERY good info, with questionable methods. this time, he's wrong on all sides
    If you can be brainwashed by a videogame, i pity you.
    Also, Flying multi ton objects can pulverize concrete, people forget planes flew into those buildings. this doesn't mean i believe the official story...
    • ttravis84, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8No one is saying video games did this, it was a contributing factor.
    • NoOneButMe, on 10/12/2007, -6/+4jack thompson is..
  • McTendo, on 10/12/2007, -12/+6"the fact is that the cultural brainwashing of violent video games and psychotropic drugs directly contributed, as it does in all these cases, to the carnage at Virginia Tech on Monday morning"

    Violent video games and psychotropic drugs? Since when did Jack Thompson become a Scientologist?

    You people are ***** creeps if you believe this garbage.
    • dshPls, on 10/12/2007, -16/+6Don't even bother, they're off the deep end.
  • yaroslav1980, on 10/12/2007, -9/+9Actually, he was a robot controlled remotely via a PSP.
    • refugeechris, on 10/12/2007, -10/+2wow-that's a sweet psp mod--i knew videogames were evil!!
  • sensi313, on 10/12/2007, -5/+7As for the video game references....it is obviously not the sole cause, but it desensitizes us to violence. The government recently stated that in the near future, most of our warplanes will be operated by remote control. When that happens, they will have millions of candidates to chose from, most of which would never feel guilt about pressing buttons. I think the real point here is that violent video game control would make much more sense than gun control. More guns = Less crime. If you take away the guns of responsible citizens, only the criminals and cops have them. I don't trust either to protect me....I don't know about you all. Cops are never around to stop crimes like this from happening, the just show up after and clean up the mess. Its time to protect ourselves! If there was no gun ban at VT this kid would have been turned into mince meat before the death toll hit double digits.
  • ttravis84, on 10/12/2007, -6/+21Bottom line this kid did not shoot 60 something people and have a 50% kill ratio without help. This campus just installed a very odd loudspeaker system that was not utilized for 2 hours after the initial shooting. Are you kidding? As usual the police and FBI dicked around for over 2 hours before acting, in 1966 a janitor and an off duty cop took it upon themselves to kill Charles Whittman in the UT tower. Now they just bumble ***** around and wait for orders meanwhile the black op agents to slip out the back (proverbially speaking). That way the loyal actual good cops can not interfere with the black op agents inside. And as expected there were strange bomb threats and odd FBI drills at the school the whole week before. These events always utilize drills to confuse the actual operation just like on 911. Furthermore, just as many of us suspected…. This case has raging inconsistencies with the tapes and letters he happened to send into ABC. Excuse me? A schizophrenic, calmy and methodically does this? Anyone who buys that has the critical thinking skills of an ant. He goes and kills 2 people, makes a movie, burns it, and mails it to ABC before walking 20 minutes to continue killing 32 more and shooting 60. Hardly believable in the vaguest since. The government has blood on its hands either way, they should be ashamed of their conceal and carry ban on campus. 1 student allowed to carry, as many stated they wanted to, would have stopped this incident in its tracks. Black op all the way.
    • refugeechris, on 10/12/2007, -5/+4do they shut down every campus in every town in America every time someone gets murdered? didn't happen here last week when someone was murdered @ 6 am outside of some campus housing. Seems excessive to expect them to shut down the whole campus, after all, you assume the killer will flee, not come back. he sent the tapes out of a sense of grandiosity. I don't see why people have a hard time believing he killed 32 people, that's like what? 2 classrooms? what's unbelievable?
    • DetroitAdam, on 10/12/2007, -5/+4Excessive? That would seem like the appropriate thing to do when two are killed on campus. Securing a perimeter seems like the appropriate thing to do as well. I've seen helicopters here in Detroit flying around wasting gas looking for standard robbery suspects and car-jackers. Streets are closed, people are turned away from the area, etc. Even saw a police tank or two after a bank/hostage job a few months back in action. SWAT took hours to suit up while the undercovers and uniformed officers went straight to work telling people to leave the area. Cops should never assume, stand up, and Serve.

      The main point about this, in my opinion, is not video games or even mind control- that may or may not be true- it's the false news and government trumpeting the psychological and "mental health" aspects all day long. Making all people the State deems psychologically "damaged" or forcing people into "the proper facilities for help" because someone is depressed based on some opinion a state-sponsored shrink or paranoid vision a neighbor had about an individual is absolutely a final step into tyranny.

      This kid was messed up, that's for sure. He probably was desensitized by a cocktail of media, depression, drugs, and possibly video games and we better believe the power structure will use that to their advantage. However, unless we the people want to have snitches running around calling the cops/CPS/community mental health every time someone is a little sad or angry at situations in this world, we had better fight hard now to present good arguments, stick to truths, and be aware. The talking heads, "experts", Dr. Phil, and "profilers" have a lot of sway on the sheep. They're mounting a huge offensive on "outsider" behavior. Time to wake up because they will come for you shortly either through legislation or through force. here in Michigan, it takes just ONE person to call the cops on another human being and have them committed for 72 hours under psychiatric observation.

      Most importantly, if those students or the staff were armed that day the slob SWAT teams wouldn't have been needed. Let us all live in peace but let us all learn how to use firearms responsibly right now and get the word out about how to do it.

      Peace.
    • refugeechris, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1virginia tech is a huge school, which makes it completely unfeasible. Blame society is basically the jist of what your saying, as well as a coordinated effort by "talking heads" to take on "outsiders"?

      I think we're all in agreement it was handled poorly, but your saying all of those cops intentionally delayed action? or possibly some shadowy upper level cop who calls the plays?

      but it can't be a Lunatic, it has to be a coordinated effort incvolving manchurian candidates, police, Dr. Phil and Defensive gun owners?
    • DetroitAdam, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1"virginia tech is a huge school, which makes it completely unfeasible. Blame society is basically the jist of what your saying, as well as a coordinated effort by "talking heads" to take on "outsiders"?

      I think we're all in agreement it was handled poorly, but your saying all of those cops intentionally delayed action? or possibly some shadowy upper level cop who calls the plays?

      but it can't be a Lunatic, it has to be a coordinated effort incvolving manchurian candidates, police, Dr. Phil and Defensive gun owners?"

      If those were questions, No to all of the above. Thanks for the spin. Peace to you from Detroit.
  • hiphoc, on 10/12/2007, -5/+9I was an RA in college. When any crime happend we called campus security. Their purpose was to take care of issues on the inside. Just so that the stats about campus crime doesnt hurt the schools rep. It backfired this time. Black Op all the way
  • kluikart, on 10/12/2007, -6/+8@dshpls
    Does that stand for Dumb Sheeple Sh**? Why do you read Alex's web pages if you think he's a fruit loop?
    • dshPls, on 10/12/2007, -8/+5It's important to gauge the intelligence level of others. In till you can't vote, I'm going to judge you on your beliefs.
    • BravoLima, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2I try not to JUDGE anyone, but it's difficult NOT to form an opinion about a self-important pseudo
      intellectual who judges people in a public forum!
  • ttravis84, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11refugeechris... you obviously have no concept of how hard it is to kill 32 people with a .9 pistol. Like most of these effeminate half men you have probably never shot a gun in your life, and have no clue about gun safety. A .9 pistol is effective at close range and self defense but never used as a massive assault weapon . It takes a double tap to the head or a chest and head shot on each victim to kill them with this particular weapon. And one person, untrained, alone, supposedly schizophrenic, is going to be able to conduct this on his own? Schizophrenic’s can not plan anything, let alone something of this magnitude. This kid must have been one bad ***** is all I can say, in order to believe the bs CNN story one must accept that. Just like always… he tidies things up with a suicide at the end. Which does not fit the M.O. either. OH NO everyone turn your guns in, so the criminals will still get them, and you will be completely helpless.
    • MAdaXe42, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9Don't forget - he was using hollowpoints - one shot will do nicely.
    • refugeechris, on 10/12/2007, -8/+11Whatever *****- i'm a registered gun owner, card carrying nra member, and i KNOW you can kill easily with a 9mm, especially with HOLLOW TIP BULLETS. Even without the hollowtips, it's deadly. Hence them being police issued. Way to resort to trying to make fun of me, which by the way, is just a regurgitation of what your hero, Alex, has been saying all week. So go ahead, believe the guy with no evidence. A classroom is small, people are scared, doors are barricaded, and a 9mm has really really good range and accuracy. Wait, no, your right, it is absolutely impossible this guy learned to shoot. thanks for overwhelming mounds of evidence to support yourself.

      all jokes aside, people need to realize that this doesn't have to be "staged" to be used against not only gun owners but other issues as well.
  • kluikart, on 10/12/2007, -6/+9@mrharvey518
    Same for you...Why do you read Alex's web pages if think he's a fruit loop? Why not just move onto more important things like Global Warming?
  • kluikart, on 10/12/2007, -9/+5@noonbutme
    Where in my comment did I say anything about steel? I said people like you believe burning jet fuel can pulverize concrete. Incredible how you people cannot even see what's right in front of you when your reading it.
    • dshPls, on 10/12/2007, -11/+6Concrete falling off of a building is going to maintain its shape?!

      Go drop a concrete block off of the Empire state building and observe what happens as it smacks the ground.
  • drxavier, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14I don't agree with every point in this essay, but the VT shooting story is so full of anomalies and unanswered questions, that one would have to ask what is really going on here. Initial reports were that the shooter was six feet tall. Cho is only 5'8". His "confession video" was lifted straight from a Korean B-movie. Wouldn't he have anything at all original to say or offer even the slightest personal detail that would explain his motive for such an act? Why did he go to the Engineering Building? If he had a beef with anyone, wouldn't it be in the English Dept. since he was an English Major? And where did he acquire his proficiency with handguns? Don't tell me that came from playing video games using toy guns! What I find most annoying is the treatment of the story by the mainstream media. Instead of examining facts and evidence and asking hard questions, they keep bringing out friends and relatives of the victims, and ask over and over again: "How do you feel?"
    • Coven, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Just to address the "engineering building" portion of your argument:

      At least eleven fatalities were found in a French class (room 211), five in a German class (room 207), nine in a hydrology class (room 206), two in solid mechanics (room 204) and one in the hallway.

      Just because its an Engineering building doesn't mean classes from other departments aren't being held in there.
  • ttravis84, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6And yes if there is a double murder in dorms, and the perpetrator is not accounted for it is procedure to start taking measures as to securing campus. No one said "shut down" campus. The speakers were not even utilized to warn the students for 2 hours. That was the whole purpose of the speaker system to immediately warn the students. This school just had a shooting a year ago, so they were said to be on heightened security, and then this proves that irrelevant.
  • manmademark, on 10/12/2007, -15/+11Oh *****. Someone let all the conspiracy nuts out of their cages.
    • BravoLima, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3We are only interested in what we can prove; once you have proof or reasonable belief based on
      FACTS, it isn't a "theory" anymore; get over your programmed prejudice and try to deal with reality.
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  • ttravis84, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11@ manmademark... yea i hear ya... mind control does not exist. There aren’t billion dollar research grants for it. The NSA and CIA havent been perefecting it for 55 years. This is too far fetched, surely nothing happens other than my day to day work, come home go to sleep. Get real, stop writing facts off as conspiracy nuts and actually use some critical thinking. Just because it is out of your normal perception of reality, does not mean it cant and doesnt happen.
    • refugeechris, on 10/12/2007, -7/+3just because your idea is out of the "normal perception of reality" doesn't mean it's true.

      Mkultra is real, but i would have to see EVIDENCE before i'll believe they're responsible.
    • BravoLima, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5NASA has invested DECADES into research of Behavior Modification, aka Mind Control, usually in
      concert with the CIA. A matter of public record; invest an hour on google and prove it to yourself.
    • BravoLima, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2____________________________________________________________________________________
      Google search engine compromised; the search that once produced 100s of pages now produces 14 links.
      If you want results, try the Meta-Search Engine at Kartoo:
      http://www.kartoo.com/en
      Keep in mind the Left-Center-Right controls give you many more choices for your search; have fun
      discovering what the Google Gatekeepers are paid to deny you!
      LIBERTY or DEATH!
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    • BravoLima, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2___________________________________________________________________________________
      http://www.kartoo.com/en
      MK/ULTRA The Mind Murderers Mind Control: A Brave New World or Enhancing Human Performance
      MONARCH TRANCE FORMATION OF AMERICA Cathy O'Brien Mark Phillips Blacksburg Facility

      http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/comment/comment_list.asp?categoryCode=117&newsIdx=1180
      ___________________________________________________________________________________
  • kahotep, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8Here is an interview with Duncan O'Finioan, someone who claims to have been involved in MK-ULTRA during his youth. Duncan's describes how they use trauma-based mind control to create alternate personalities that will unflinchingly do whatever they are commanded to do without knowing or revealing the source of the command.

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8816519826373820792
    • dshPls, on 10/12/2007, -9/+3Ok, so? Please explain how this is even somewhat related...
  • ConfusedONE, on 10/12/2007, -8/+9These "truthers" are hypocritical in saying that we believe everything the government says about 9/11 but here they are eating up EVERYTHING Alex Jones has to say.

    This is opportunistic attention grabbing at best.
  • fordicus, on 10/12/2007, -10/+7By all means, PLEASE allow this story to make it to the mainstream media. Not because it is true, so much as it will show the delusional fantasies of conspiracy nuts.
  • ryanmm, on 10/12/2007, -9/+5Seriously, if they are exposing all these supposed cover-ups why wouldn't the government just send one of their brain-washed assassins to kill all the "truthers"

  • mistermonkeyman, on 10/12/2007, -5/+7It is very unusual that so many points of the globalists agenda have been vivified by this one horrific and headline grabbing event. And also think of the timing, with Gonzales’ testimony scheduled that day and Rove's missing 4 years of emails the current top story.

    The globalist agenda aims to:
    disarm the general population and neutralize their resistance capabilities
    it wishes to force vaccinate/medicate those who will not accept innocualtions/meds (this guy we are told wouldn't take his meds) as a first step to general forced medicating/innoculation of all
    They wish to also begin their program of 'security' biometrics, real ID and chipping via schools, from elementary to college, as a first step to bringing it to the masses of US residents

    Unusual that so many current globalist wishes were presented with this one 'lone gunman'

    He spoke like a robot too.....
  • kluikart, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8@dshpls
    You are hopeless. I did not say anything about concrete losing its shape. I said pulverize as in turning to dust. Losing shape and turning to dust are not one in the same.

    Pulverize: to ruduce(as by crushing or grinding) or be reduced to very small particles:demolish
    Particle: a very small bit of matter
    • dshPls, on 10/12/2007, -9/+4Again, unless there wasn't one piece of solid concrete at ground zero, your logic fails. Here's the thing, there WAS. Solid pieces of concrete were broken up and smashed, creating the dust you love to point to.
    • Bankal, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Drop a piece of concrete of the top of a 110 story building. Will it turn to powder and chase New Yorkers down the street in a pyroclastic flow? There simply isn't the energy to do that without some secondary source of energy. Just sit down and watch the "collapses" and really think about the laws of physics. Two building fall in under ten seconds each. The first fall would have to be an anomaly within itself, but to then add the second fall, and then building seven: that's a double-plus anomaly. I mean c'mon people you can't seriously believe that gravity and fire did all that damage. That's absurd! Just watch the collapses and listen to them. 911 Mysteries is the number one video on Google Videos unless they took it down. Watch it.
    • Groovemaster, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2"I mean c'mon people you can't seriously believe that gravity and fire did all that damage."

      You're right. No-one does *seriously* believe it. They believe it in the same sense that some people believe in gods - they know it's ridiculous, absurd and irrational but the alternative is too terrifying for them to confront... So they just pretend.
  • refugeechris, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1Next These Peep's will be blaming Rock'N'Roll for something
  • rockbysea, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6The disinformation agents always resort to name-calling...best just ignore them and keep posting the truth because their days are numbered. The number of those who are waking up and seeing these creeps for the murderous creatures that they really are is growing day by day.
  • buzneg, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Once you begin to understand how the powers that be work, Alex Jones has more credibility then mainstream media. CIA does mindcontrol tests on innocent people, that's a fact, now what do you think the CIA chief that signs off on that is willing to do??

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2927316845773056069&q=mind+control&hl=en

    Where's there's secrecy and a fews things have come out you can bet there's much more that hasn't come out.
    • tsoldrin, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1Alex is great on a lot of things, but you can't play the credibility card because he doesn't cite sources like a journalist... even a phony one would. He's a commentator expressing opinions without cites.

    • tsoldrin, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1.
      foo
  • simbolo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12Someone has to investigate and follow the links because the fake media will not.
  • Celor, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3I play the "violent videogames" all the time, and, guess what, I never have thoughts of mass-murder or feelings of hatred toward others EVER. Of course I am not on anykind of psychotropic drugs or prescriptions.
    I can see how they made the connection between Counter-Strike and this drugged-up idiot, and I do think that violent videogames can have a negative effect on those with a weak mind, but I do not, however, think that videogames are too blame; this scumbag, and VA Tech itself are too blame.

    No video games found in VT shooter's dorm (Joystiq article.)
    http://www.joystiq.com/2007/04/19/no-video-games-found-in-vt-shooters-dorm/
  • theinsidejob911, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10I do not understand why people say Alex Jones is a nut case and full of sh!t, but take the time to listen to his shows, get on his web site, read his articles, digg them, respond to them , come back to check on the post, respond to people, try to prove them wrong, throw insults, and expect us truthers not to realize: A. You are a disinfo operative. B. If you are not an operative you are a loser with to much time. C. You are dumb enough to do the job of a disinfo operative for free. You people suck at your jobs and or f$cking losers. GET A LIFE! Stop betraying your country with or with out a pay check.
    • LinearChaos, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0Alex Jones is ok, I've watched his films and go to his site. You take the good with bad. He has an agenda just like everyone else and likes to ignore certain things. I am not into the network he is on either. I guess veiled $cientology propaganda and a Bigfoot army from Nemesis coming to kill us in 2012 are just not my thing for credible news...

      You need more than 9/11 Truth and the words of Paul Watson and Alex Jones to put all the pieces together...
  • portman, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6dshpls... No, the GOVERNMENT loves it when there's a mass murder like this. THEY get to ratchet up their Police state. THEY get more funding and more power and more control over us. Alex Jones is a real American and a sensitive, compassionate, mature human being who is truly upset and sickenned when these things happen. At least he is looking into this case instead of automatically believing what the T.V. says. He always proves his case, and I've never seen a time when he didn't. What PROOF do YOU have that it ISN'T a Black Ops? All you and your ilk ever seem to resort to is character assassination anyway.
  • depburns, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9I heard from a caller on the Alex Jones show about a woman, Cathy O'Brien, who predicted in the past that VT would be involved in an incident because of its many connections to things like NASA and Project Monarch, which is a mind control program. I immediately searched the Internet for references to her and her partner -- a former CIA operative -- who helped to deprogram her, Mark Phillips. If you go on Google Video, you can view many of her talks to various audiences, and she seems both very credible and very articulate about the processes used and their impact on the individuals involved. Given the subject matter, it is highly compelling viewing and sheds a great deal of light both on how the CIA uses mind control not just on individuals, but on the society at large. herself was basically a mind control sex slave/spy who was programmed by trauma based mind control. What she discussed will blow your mind, I promise.

    Watch these videos now before they get pulled!!!!!!! This is incredible power stuff and fits so neatly with everything that is going on currently!!!!!!

    One point she made, which literally sent a chill down my spine, was that trauma makes people more suggestable and open to being lead where the abuser wants to take them. This made sense not just in the case of how individuals respond to abuse, but it also hit home in terms of the VT incident and 911.

    When you present this proposition that the shooter was mind controlled, many will question "What could the motive be for a government body to act in this way?" The answer is in her lectures: by traumatizing the public and instilling deep fear within the individual members, they can be lead to allow for more intrusive actions against them. Look at what has already happenned. Already there is a media blitz for gun control, there were over 34 schools locked down in California today. Expect to see more police and checkstops, more social workers dropping by homes based on reports from schools, more pressure to drug kids. President Bush says we should be reporting on anyone who acts suspicious. We are all criminals now, all suspects, and we should all be afraid, very afraid.

    Do you notice how many mission critical "problems" that demand "action by government" are popping up lately? The War on Terror, Global Warming, now the "War Against Loonies" which of course could be any one of us now. And each event serves to destabilize us and demoralize us so that we are less and less able to react effectively. That is, unless we can pull the curtains back and see Mr. Oz at the controls.

    Interesting article I saw as well on the DIGG biggest political story highlights that the CIA has grown by 50% since Bush came into office. From what Ms. O'Brien talked about last night, many recruits are young Mormon men who have just finished their two year "apprenticeship" -- not the right word but the only one that comes to mind -- who are at that stage are highly suggestable. (Not knocking Mormons, just reporting what she said, which makes some sense to me.) In addition, she mentions that many CIA agents go through various types of brainwashing and programming. As well, this has been going on since at least 1947 when the US took much of the materials that Adolf Hitler had developed and expanded upon them. In actual fact, trauma based mind programming goes all the way back to the Egyptian Book of the Dead.

    Ms O'Brien also states that what the elites want to achieve is a totally mind controlled population "in the interest of world peace."

    Again, go see these videos and show them to people!!!!!

    • depburns, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1Sorry about the double entry, something wierd happenned when I tried to edit, and I can't figure out how to remove.
  • depburns, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10I heard from a caller on the Alex Jones show about a woman, Cathy O'Brien, who predicted in the past that VT would be involved in an incident because of its many connections to things like NASA and Project Monarch, which is a mind control program. I immediately searched the Internet for references to her and her partner -- a former CIA operative -- who helped to deprogram her, Mark Phillips. If you go on Google Video, you can view many of her talks to various audiences, and she seems both very credible and very articulate about the processes used and their impact on the individuals involved. Given the subject matter, it is highly compelling viewing and sheds a great deal of light both on how the CIA uses mind control not just on individuals, but on the society at large. She was basically a mind control sex slave/spy who was programmed by trauma based mind control. What she discussed will blow your mind, I promise.

    Watch these videos now before they get pulled!!!!!!! This is incredible power stuff and fits so neatly with everything that is going on currently!!!!!!

    One point she made, which literally sent a chill down my spine, was that trauma makes people more suggestable and open to being lead where the abuser wants to take them. This made sense not just in the case of how individuals respond to abuse, but it also hit home in terms of the VT incident and 911.

    When you present this proposition that the shooter was mind controlled, many will question "What could the motive be for a government body to act in this way?" The answer is in her lectures: by traumatizing the public and instilling deep fear within the individual members, they can be lead to allow for more intrusive actions against them. Look at what has already happenned. Already there is a media blitz for gun control, there were over 34 schools locked down in California today. Expect to see more police and checkstops, more social workers dropping by homes based on reports from schools, more pressure to drug kids. President Bush says we should be reporting on anyone who acts suspicious. We are all criminals now, all suspects, and we should all be afraid, very afraid.

    Do you notice how many mission critical "problems" that demand "action by government" are popping up lately? The War on Terror, Global Warming, now the "War Against Loonies" which of course could be any one of us now. And each event serves to destabilize us and demoralize us so that we are less and less able to react effectively. That is, unless we can pull the curtains back and see Mr. Oz at the controls.

    Interesting article I saw as well on the DIGG biggest political story highlights that the CIA has grown by 50% since Bush came into office. From what Ms. O'Brien talked about last night, many recruits are young Mormon men who have just finished their two year "apprenticeship" -- not the right word but the only one that comes to mind -- who are at that stage are highly suggestable. (Not knocking Mormons, just reporting what she said, which makes some sense to me.) In addition, she mentions that many CIA agents go through various types of brainwashing and programming. As well, this has been going on since at least 1947 when the US took much of the materials that Adolf Hitler had developed and expanded upon them. In actual fact, trauma based mind programming goes all the way back to the Egyptian Book of the Dead.

    Ms O'Brien also states that what the elites want to achieve is a totally mind controlled population "in the interest of world peace."

    Again, go see these videos and show them to people!!!!!
  • baiken, on 10/12/2007, -2/+102 GUNSHOTS TO KILL YOURSELF!? What's wrong with this eyewitness (second-hand) testimony?

    http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/19/vtech.victims/index.html

    "Her son was "absolutely scared to death," she said. "He kept his wits about him, but he was scared to death."

    The gunman again shot Colin, hitting him in the shoulder and buttocks. Then he walked to the front of the classroom, she said.

    TWO GUNSHOTS were followed by silence.

    Police broke that silence as they stormed the room, shouting, "shooter down! black tag!" Goddard said, which apparently are code words indicating deaths at the scene."
    • dshPls, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2Two guns?


      You don't know what happened, so don't act as if you were there.
  • ejmarti, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5That picture can show some light on where he got his experience with guns. ROTC go to gun ranges too. I'm sure the Marines don't want any affiliation with this so that is why the pic was probably pulled. Maybe the guy in the picture helped him and escaped during the ruckus as a victim. I did remember two different account of what the shooter had on, one said he was dressed like a boyscout??? and the other said he had a leather jacket on with a maroon hat. I heard this from the news clips on that day from eye witnesses. I wonder what the killer was wearing when they found him?
  • Phoenix1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7prisonplanet.tv
    infowars.com
    prisonplanet.net
    READ the real News there eh?
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