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- TheUngod, on 10/12/2007, -7/+56I'm pretty sure it's rednecks like yourself that will lead this country down the tubes.
- mad1stl, on 10/12/2007, -6/+54You sir, are an idiot.
- uday0210, on 10/12/2007, -5/+44what in the ***** is wrong with you..
- gumby05, on 10/12/2007, -10/+41I'd vote for him. He's the one public offcial that makes me proud to be from Illinois.
- danielwsmithee, on 10/12/2007, -6/+32After his speech at the Democratic National Convention I thought he was a man I could vote for. I subscribed to his podcast. He is an excellent public speaker with a great vision into the heart of Americans. He reminds me a lot of JFK in that respect. The problem is his ideas he has proposed in his podcasts to solve problems in America are too socialist and completely conflict with my own views. Too many of the democratic candidates preach about the government owing you this that or the other, and ignore personal responsibility, or an individual serving the country rather then the other way around.
For example his idea to pay for the medical insurance of the auto industry? Coddling that industry is what got them in the situation they are in now in the first place. You want to help the industry show them they need to compete to be profitable. His other idea to pay the oil companies to supply E85, why just make it a requirement. They don't need any more money. Remove some of the other special blends they have to supply and replace them with E85.
It just seems frustrating to me when the only solutions I here out of politicians involves spending tax money and making government larger. - techdugger, on 10/12/2007, -1/+26America needs more large political parties, 2 is not enough.
- BaldMonkey, on 10/12/2007, -3/+27ooooh racism. that is so fresh.
*****. - glaive, on 10/12/2007, -7/+30dumb *****.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -8/+27Obama / Clinton 08
Also know as: How to make sure the Republicans hold the White House for four more years. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+21a black atheist lesbian woman!
- jayhawk, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12senators typically don't run after 4 years either. the longer you sit in the senate, the more likely your votes can be twisted. barack has played it pretty safe. he even co-authored an immigration bill with john mccain. i think the smartest thing to do is run before you have a record. you'll get hit for being inexperienced, but bush was a 1 term gov from texas that has a weak gov. and that wasn't much of a barrier. obama charisma outweighs the negatives tenfold.
- gharding, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11Honestly, if he were a prime candidate, I'd be worried about the votes he got just because he IS black. I wish people would just vote based on issues they care about or are important to them. Race and religion plays too big a part in elections.
- dagnabbit, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11Might want to mull it over.
- sanman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10Well, I think any ticket Hillary attaches herself to will guarantee a Republican victory.
Hillary's supporters are vociferous, loud and few in number. Most people don't want another Clinton admin, no matter how badly they want Bush out. I think Obama could tie up with Kerry, Gephardt, or one of the others not totally tarnished by the Clinton years.
Besides, she's not even a native New Yorker, and she's occupying a seat that was basically gifted to her by Daniel Patrick Moynihan. - bjkrautk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10Senators don't get elected President. (IIRC, Kennedy was the last Senator elected President over 40 years ago.) Governors, with their executive and delegatory skills, tend to do far better on the campaign trail.
- fried, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11how about a black woman?
- sandfish, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11@Chompy
It's actually that kind of mentality from people that keeps racism going in America. It shouldn't be anything we even think about. He's got my vote. - wild, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10I saw him speak during his election run in 2004. He seems to have a brilliant mind for understanding both sides of an issue. Thats what we need in a country that is so divided in half.
I have a feeling I wouldn't always agree with him, but at least I would respect his opinion and have faith he got to that opinion through careful though. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10I don't understand why people are digging you down. Considering that the civil rights movement just ended 40-50 years ago, and the current politicians, administration, big business owners, party conributers are between 50-60 years old, it's not to far fetched to say what you said.
Obama would have a better chance if he were born in a later generation (generation X or later) simply because the majority of the "good ol' boys" would be dead and hopefully most of their beliefs with them. - techweenie1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Well if Oprah thinks he should be president than he should be, because Oprah is all knowing and powerful..
(Sarcasm) - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7You mean, with their executive and delegatory skills in campaigning
- 303nate, on 10/12/2007, -8/+15Run Barack Run!!
- Subiklim, on 10/12/2007, -6/+13Uh, despite what Jon Stewart may tell you, republicans have quite a good record with minorities. See the civil rights act, see bush's cabinet.
As for democrats, see recent racist remarks against a congress candidate, see Robert Byrd, etc. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8There are of course many non-geek issues that are vitally important, but it's interesting to note that Obama is 1) Strongly in favor of net neutrality and 2) Strongly in favor of energy independence through diversification of the power structure, delivery systems, biofuels, and plug-in hybrids.
http://savetheinternet.com/=senatemap?state=IL
Obama on net neutrality:
"On June 8, the Senator made this statement:
"It is because the Internet is a neutral platform that I can put out this podcast and transmit it over the Internet without having to go through any corporate media middleman. I can say what I want without censorship or without having to pay a special charge. But the big telephone and cable companies want to change the Internet as we know it. They say that they want to create high speed lanes on the Internet and strike exclusive contractual agreements with Internet content providers for access to those high speed lanes. Everyone who cannot pony up the cash will be relegated to the slow lanes."" - mikedroz, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10It's amazing to me that everyone is ready to sign off on Obama for President. The guy has given one speech. You might want to check out his Illinois voting record, he will have problems trying to move to the center for a national campaign.
- IceSabre, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9He's lucky his parents weren't mean and name him Alfred (or Al for short).
- themonkielives, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11Not so sure, Black men got the right to vote before white women.
- Nougat, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9Been reading your comments all day BGN, and now you're blocked. Thanks!
- TheUngod, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6@ OMGWTFROFLMAO
The minority population of the US is 31.86%. That is, anyone who is not a white non-hispanic. Just looked it up on the software I use for work...very specifically used for these types of demographics. - reed311, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6This guy is a Freshman Senator, he doesn't have the experience to be President yet. He needs to pay some more dues. It seems like they've been trying hard to push him as a celebrity politician and I really haven't heard of one accomplishment he has made since he took office, not to say that he hasn't.
- mikedroz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Vote for "Osama"? Was that a Freudian slip?
- Chompy, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7"It's actually that kind of mentality from people that keeps racism going in America. It shouldn't be anything we even think about. He's got my vote."
He's got my vote too, but he's still not going to win. - grunherz5x5, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Good post.
Further, I'm a centrist who has been leaning a lot to the left lately, mostly on social issues.
Obama is a very charismatic person and has a lot going for him, but he is far from a centrist and I have a feeling that many people will go against their beliefs to support him just because he's charismatic.
Sometimes too strong charisma can be a bad thing. History is littered with individuals who came along, won over the masses with promises of greatness and prosperity, only to go down in history as a tyrant.
The 20th Century specifically had a lot of them.
I'm not saying his political views are wrong, or trying to trigger Godwin's Law by any stretch. I'm just positing a concern that I think too many people are judging him on the wrong criteria and it could, maybe, come back to bite us all someday in the distant future.
Use your eyes and ears, but vote with your brain. - Ndiggnation, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5http://www.vote-smart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=BS030017 Obama's voting record.
- jlbraun, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Obama is an old-school gun-grabber. Ain't no way I'm voting for him, charisma or not. No anti-gun politician ever deserves the nomination of either party, ever again.
Barack Obama on Gun Control
Democratic Jr Senator (IL); previously State Senator
Ban semi-automatics, and more possession restrictions
* Principles that Obama supports on gun issues:Ban the sale or transfer of all forms of semi-automatic weapons.
* Increase state restrictions on the purchase and possession of firearms.
* Require manufacturers to provide child-safety locks with firearms.
Source: 1998 IL State Legislative National Political Awareness Test Jul 2, 1998 - interiot, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6(source: his book, "Dreams from My Father")
I'm sure he didn't inhale... - ElectroOverlord, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Even if we didn't take you serious and knew it was a joke...we should bury you do to a lame sense of humor.
- jlbraun, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Obama = Chicago-style gun control advocate = NOT ELECTABLE.
Support pro-gun Democrats, not Obama. - bloodguard, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6I’ve been listening to his (Obama's) podcasts and my impression of him is of someone who's well managed but not overly bright. He’ll rattle off the jingoistic talking points of the day but there really doesn’t seem to be any substance to him.
I was kind of hoping Mark Warner would make a run at it in '08 but I guess Hillary's black ops squad dug up something unfortunate about him and warned him off. - Chompy, on 10/12/2007, -11/+15As someone mentioned in another thread, there is entirely too much racism in this country for a black guy with a name that rhymes with "Osama" to be elected President. If the Democrats nominate him, all they'll be doing is handing the Republicans the White House for another four years. I'd certainly vote for him, but he could never win.
I know it's not politically correct, but it's true.. and you know it. Can we just stick to getting a not-totally-evil-bastard in there for now, and then focus on the social progress during the next election? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4As a republican even I think Obama is a slick politician and a more than competent orator, there's no denying that. A democrat like him makes John Kerry or Al Gore look like the morons they are. Not to mention Cynthia McKinney, Charlie Rangel, Maxine Waters, John Conyers, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, et.al. Obama's right up there in intellect, articulation, and class with Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice.
But I have to say, the fawning over him and his potential because of; or in spite of; his race, seems so disingenuous coming from the Left after some of the ugliness we've recently heard from them regarding race. Blacks who do not toe the liberal line are derided in the nastiest ways by these liberals. People like Powell, Rice, Ken Blackwell, and Michael Steele are slandered with racist hatred by those who are supposedly on the side of the minority.
If Obama was a conservative running as a republican, these same Leftists who praise him would be saying he is not "black" enough. They would call him a "house *****", an "Uncle Tom", and make crude comments about him sexually servicing his republican "massas".
If we are for the advancement of ethnic minorities, should we not celebrate their successes in whatever endeavor they pursue? - L0t3k, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I suspect this will be an unpopular opinion simply because it's frightening commentary on the country, but I think the only way a black man (important to distinguish gender here) would get elected is if the Republicans ran one.
Simply put, I don't think your average Republican would ever vote for a black Democrat, but Democrats might jump sides to see a black president... even if he's a Republican.
An election like that could even turn out to be a lock. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8What does this man stand for? What does he stand against?
I kind of need to know this to make up my mind about a possible Obama presidency, unlike, it seems, some of you fine gentlemen. - mishima8, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6From what I have seen of him, he is intelligent and thoughtful. I only hope he maintains his so far "squeaky" clean image (ok, ok, as much as possible - he is a politician after all). So long as he doesn't try and take my guns away, I would consider voting for him. :-)
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5I don't know a lot about him (being I'm a left coaster, and I don't affiliate myself with either party), but he certainly has a lot of buzz about him.
I'm sure I won't be the only one doing more research should he choose to run, and win's a nomination - Equalizer, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Just wait til the Clinton's get ahold of him... You're right, though, nobody knows what he's about but 1) He's Black (I'm sure I'll get dugg down for mentioning that he's black, but he is)
2) He's a big time lib and 3) He's black and NOT jesse jackson
Commence Neg. Diggs Lib Bitches! - Equalizer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Great Post! I was really wondering the same thing... If he's a Dem, he's okay, if he is (gasp) a Republican then there must be something wrong with him because ALL blacks are Democrats.... Never mind JC, Condi, Colin, etc.... They're all just "token" blacks
- u2wedge, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5to those wondering what he stands for/against... Google is your friend.
- anillop, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6Yeah well not having a record is an asset for a presidential run. Just look at Bush he was a governor in the weakest governors office in the country . If you don't have much of a record you don't have much to attack.
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