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- JavanSClark, on 11/02/2009, -18/+471Well done lady!
As for Vitter.. he was busted soliciting prostitutes.. his opinion is worthless, he in no way values the personal safety of women. - Junkyarddawg, on 11/02/2009, -2/+380What an evasive ***** weasel, trying to blame _HIS OWN VOTE_ on Obama. I hope this bites him. I hope this bites every single congressman who voted against. I hope this bites them HARD.
- dynamojoe, on 11/02/2009, -4/+325"WOMAN: But I'm not asking Obama. I'm asking you."
It's a bit disconcerting when a republican hides behind a democrat. Funny, though. - 08soso, on 11/02/2009, -5/+249It is disingenuous to say the least that this provision can't be enforced. If not enforced by the executive branch, any victim which brings suit in federal court will be allowed to proceed with their suit rather than being sent to mandatory secret arbitration. The federal government requires all sorts of things in its contracts with contractors and their subcontractors. "You must pay for fish within one week. You cannot hire convict labor. You must pay prevailing wages." You cannot force women who have been raped by your employees while under your control to settle for mandatory secret arbitration. The woman goes to court and the court says that the clause which requires binding arbitration in a federal contract is void -- that's the enforcement. Contractors in Iraq were not subject to American criminal law at the time this woman was raped. Therefore, this was her only shot at justice. Also, the employer is not usually criminally liable for acts by its agents unless it directed those acts. However, they could be held civilly liable if they did not provide proper protection and response in the even that their employee committed a crime while employed.
- jess21496, on 11/02/2009, -4/+242How Vitter stays in office is disgusting by itself much less his voting record.
- ilovecheese1, on 11/02/2009, -3/+232That's right Mr. Senator... walk away.
- ryanisjimdandy, on 11/02/2009, -2/+220Dear Republicans,
Compromising your morals and ethics is okay because, "Well, that guy over there did it", isn't a ***** excuse.
It wasn't an excuse when you were six years old and it's not an excuse when you're sixty. - Glugory, on 11/02/2009, -4/+189You know you've got em by the balls when they just have to ignore you. I've seen this from my own congressman on more than one occasion (Wally Herger if anyone cares). Absolutely disgusting.
- TheEggAndI, on 11/02/2009, -1/+164something tells me that yes, he would tell his daughter to be silent.
- Chapman9110, on 11/02/2009, -2/+156"And I'm absolutely supportive of any case like that being prosecuted criminally to the full extent of the law."
Uhhh..... no you're not, that is kind of the point. Unless, is mandatory arbitration paid for by the case's defendant considered the full extent of the law now? - Dustin00, on 11/03/2009, -4/+142"Mr. Obama was against that amendment that his administration was against that amendment."
***** liar.
The Department of Defense was against the amendment. Not everybody in the governement thinks/believes exactly what Obama does. That was the DoD's opinion.
The White House in no way was against this amendment.
What a scumbag. - newfrickinshow, on 11/02/2009, -4/+138Anyone else think Vitter had a condescending look on his face talking to her? Anyone else think Vitter just has a general disregard and disrespect for women? Anyone else think Vitter's a chauvinist POS? Anyone else think Louisiana would be better off if they kicked his ass to the curb?
- fasda, on 11/02/2009, -1/+97The ability to be sued for something is not the same as being forced to incriminate yourself.
- Dustin00, on 11/03/2009, -1/+88Obama did not hire the DOD.
Obama let the DOD state their opinion. It was then IGNORED by Obama's administration. NOBODY on his cabinet agreed with the DOD.
You fail civics AND google search. - johnnr2, on 11/02/2009, -7/+90wow! powerful.
- chrismwood, on 11/02/2009, -0/+74Yes! Blame the emotional rape victim and not the fact that the argument is ridiculous in the first place. Vitter is completely devoid of ethics, and it makes perfect sense that you defend him.
- aftonhalters, on 11/03/2009, -3/+65My son was stationed at Bagram for 6 months. KBR provided all the labor to maintain food service, computer rooms ect.. These young people are from India, they are given 1 that's ONE day off a year , to update their name tag info.. After 2 years ( 2YEARS) they can go home. It was like prison, forced labor. Bad food; my son would sneak a young man food from the cafeteria to the computer room where this boy worked. Great kid , very smart! He's home and in school now , but he will always remember how my son gave him food. It was VERY risky but he did it anyway. He didn't like what he saw , and he learned WHY foreigners hate Americans, with their arrogance. But I really hate KBR, owned by Haliburtan . They are American businesses owned by the likes of Cheany and getting away with slavery, and abuse !! Add rape to that list, of one of our own. To bad they can't go down with the other trash !
- Dubersive, on 11/02/2009, -1/+58http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victim_blaming
People like you disgust me. - swantamer, on 11/03/2009, -3/+60David Vitter and his ilk are the embodiment of everything that is wrong with America.
- Dubersive, on 11/02/2009, -1/+57Because that was a useless comment. Buried.
- SmokenJoe, on 11/02/2009, -0/+54Well said. The only reason to vote against this one is for money. Any congressman that puts money over justice needs to go and anyone that supports then shares their lack of honor.
- EddiePotato, on 11/02/2009, -0/+47You wouldn't even have to hear what was being said to figure out that guy is a narcissistic jerk. His body language and facial expressions give it away.
- TrevorBelmont, on 11/02/2009, -1/+48Let's assume that she was an actress. The fact remains that his response was to deflect the heat to someone else and then to quickly walk away in silence when it didn't work.
If you can't stand liars then maybe you shouldn't supplant the actual details of this story with ones that you made up until it resonates with your opinions. - Chapman9110, on 11/02/2009, -0/+46The criminal case would have to be prosecuted by the Iraqi government, and they were prevented from prosecution by an American law protecting foreign contractors. Secondly, she has been prevented from civil action by a clause stating that all "work related" complaints must be handled in arbitration at the arbitrator of KBR's choosing. The Franken bill essentially said that from now on, gang rape will not be considered a work related offense and can therefore not be kept exempt from litigation by an employment contract. There is no way to justify voting against a woman's right to prosecute her attackers. By the way, Jamie Leigh Jones can't identify the specific people who raped her because she was given date rape drugs and KBR locked her in a shipping container for 24 hours to keep her from reporting what happened, giving her assailants plenty of time to destroy evidence. You should actually read up on the case.
- downneck, on 11/02/2009, -3/+48i heard Glenn Beck did AND he refuses to deny these serious allegations
- candre23, on 11/03/2009, -1/+46Actually, every point you made is completely false. Jones cannot file criminal charges. Iraqi law does not apply to US military bases, and military law enforcement declined to investigate. Any investigation that did occur would be unlikely to end in a conviction, as all evidence was "misplaced" by KBR. Jones's own memories of the event are hazy, and would not hold up in court as she was drugged by her attackers. A proper medical examination could have at least proven that she had been drugged, but KBR prevented that from happening.
If all Jones wanted was money, then she would have opted for arbitration. Most arbitration hearings of this sort end in financial payouts to the victim, provided they sign a gag order. KBR would have gladly paid her to be quiet, but instead Jones took her case public to make sure this wouldn't happen again. KBR's policies created a this situation, and without public outrage and court sanctions, they have no incentive to change those policies. - seltaeb4, on 11/03/2009, -2/+47I think Dave probably crapped himself.
But legend among his prostitutes says he's into that sort of thing. - piieerrrree, on 11/02/2009, -2/+46You're a disingenuous douchebag.
The bill says that the government won't hire contractors that require internal arbitration. This is in no way compelling corporations to self-incriminate. - LiquidIse, on 11/03/2009, -2/+42This captures my sentiments exactly. This man favors prostitution and votes against rape victims.
- mablung, on 11/03/2009, -1/+40Are you ***** serious? You seriously need to drive your double wide off a cliff. Frogger was a class act and you shame his memory.
- Scarecrow237, on 11/02/2009, -4/+43Since when is a corporation the same as an individual?
- azurite, on 11/03/2009, -1/+38Whats really heartbreaking is the way he droned at that lady in a dead, monotone voice and talked over her. Then when he got irritated and tired of talking to her, he just walked away. Like his prerecorded tape ran out and he had no answers.
We should expect and demand better of our elected officials. They work for us, not the other way around. We want real people who engage issues not mealy mouthed robots who babble back the company approved doublethink. - FongoBongo, on 11/03/2009, -1/+36What a coward. He just tucked his tail and ran rather than answer her questions. He should be ashamed of himself.
- candre23, on 11/03/2009, -0/+34You do realize that posting the same ***** half a dozen times does not make it any less wrong, don't you?
Read harder. As pointed out in the article, Vitter lied when he claimed that Obama or his "administration" was against the amendment. The Department of Defense came out against it, but you can hardly call that "Obama's administration". The head of the DoD (the person who makes decisions like this) is the Secretary of Defense. Our current Secretary of Defense is Robert Gates, who was appointed under George W Bush. - Kungfumantis239, on 11/02/2009, -4/+38Wait to stick to the question and not let him deflect it.
I still think all convicted rapists should be locked in a cell with Bubba. You all know which Bubba I'm talking about. - Stingrays, on 11/03/2009, -3/+35***** this guy. Don't allow this spineless bastard to be re-elected, for the good of this nation.
- SmellyKelli, on 11/02/2009, -1/+33Skywise & Scarecrow - Corporations have not always had personhood under US law. That didn't come for another 100 years or so. I suppose that would cause a rise in corporate lawyers and it's been downhill ever since.
I would love to see that change... - candre23, on 11/03/2009, -1/+33Especially when he had to LIE about the democrat's position just to try to make himself less of a filthy douchebag.
Sorry senator Vitter, the extent of your douchocity cannot be hidden. - knightsend, on 11/03/2009, -1/+33Yes, conservative journalists never ambush people...
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Daily_Show_slams_ORe ... - fury420, on 11/03/2009, -0/+32somehow "you locked me in a shipping container for days after I reported being drugged & gang raped by my co-workers" does not seem like the kind of "civil matter" that should be covered by private arbitration.
Furthermore, in this specific case there was no appropriate legal jurisdiction for a criminal complaint (at the time private civilian contractors in Iraq were completely above/outside the law, both Iraqi & American) - EdgarVerona, on 11/03/2009, -1/+33Conspiracy theory much...
- DemiRonin, on 11/03/2009, -1/+31Major props for that woman for 1) Revealing a terrible tragedy that happened to her and 2) Having the assertiveness to try and talk to a representative of congress.....oh wait I meant to say representative of corporate lobbying
- spar303, on 11/03/2009, -1/+31What a weasel.
- EarlOfLade, on 11/02/2009, -1/+28Wanna know how KBR operates?
Read some of good old Dickens! It's very much the same mentality... - squ1sh, on 11/03/2009, -1/+27Ouch. OYAHHH just had his balls placed in a vice grip. I really hate it when people do zero research and state their opinions as fact.
- killamockingbrd, on 11/03/2009, -3/+29http://www.republicansforrape.org/
- dman24752, on 11/03/2009, -1/+27Being for the legalization of prostitution in no way makes you pro-rape. Being against the legalization of prostitution while seeing prostitutes makes you pro-rape. Voting against the Franken Amendment makes you pro-rape.
- keving727, on 11/03/2009, -1/+26Its pretty remarkable how he doesn't defend his vote and rather states that Obama doesn't support the bill. This is supposed to be seasoned politician and when confronted he turns into a teenager getting in trouble in class. "Well, he's doing it too".
- neoness, on 11/03/2009, -1/+26This man is awful.
This kind of cowardice should not be found in a political figure.
Anyone who deflects questions on to Obama as a knee-jerk reaction should not have a say in anything important.
It is embarrassing to have people like this in positions of power. - Phernoree, on 11/03/2009, -2/+27Not even six months in office, and already I tip my hat to Franken for being a political master-mind in anticipating an automatic knee-jerk Republican partisan anti-"libby" vote against his amendment, which would in effect demonize (perhaps rightfully so) the Republican opposition and generate just enough sympathy votes for the upcoming health care bill. F***ing brilliant.
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