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- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Feel free to contact the Port of Seattle and let them know how you feel:
http://www.portseattle.org/about/contact/ - Kinser, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12People who complain about things like x-mas trees need to grow up or get hit by a truck. Maybe both.
- appleann1, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Thanks for the link. I sent an e-mail, hope others follow suit.
- Jonas1982, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5He wasn't complaining about the Christmas trees. He was asking them to display a Menorah as well.
- ahsen74, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Something similar happened earlier this year, when Muslim parents asked a Florida school board to recognize Eid as a religious holiday, since they already recognized certain Jewish and Christian holidays. Instead, the school board decided to no longer recognize the Jewish and Christian holidays.
Of course, the Muslim parents also did not threaten to sue, as this gentleman did. In fact, when the school board ruled in this manner, the parents rescinded their request and asked that the other holidays be re-instated. - rodtrent, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I agree -- a Christmas tree is a universal symbol of the holidays, not a religious icon. This just shows the liberal type of world we've allowed to be created. It's sad that it's the minority voice that controls this country. Majority rules is a long lost sentiment.
- danielrh9, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I fear that all of this bitching and complaining about the merits of all of "the holidays" will lead to a mix-matched ambiguous celebration of nothing aside from commercialism. If you don't like "Christmas", stop your whining and get the ***** over it. No one is exactly trying to force your conversion or anything. You can go praise Xenu's birth or whatever the hell you want, just allow to let others enjoy their Christmas without you and the ACLU knocking down the door crying that it's offensive.
- nepawoods, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3"Christmas no longer has a religious connotation in this country."
To Christians, Christmas is a religious holiday. Christmas trees, however, have no religious meaning. - chicbicyclist, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4I don't even consider a Christmas tree a religious symbol anyway). It is one of the least offensive and universal holiday symbol out there regardless of the name and I'm a hardline atheist!
Does it even have any Christian symbol or meaning behind it? Wreaths are supposed to represent Christ's crown but I highly suspect it's just Christians putting thier own made up symbol on a pagan thing so I consider wreaths highly secular as well. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+6"There is no war on Christmas."
- chicbicyclist, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2@jonas
Christmas no longer has a religious connotation in this country. It's a commercial holiday, and I'm not complianing. That's how various winter holidays came into being, an excuse to celebrate something in the dark and cold months. Even the word holiday itself used to have religious connotation but that is also not the case anymore. - pintomp3, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1that's just sad. rather than honor other ppl's holidays, they would rather not honor their own. just seems really spiteful. it's like setting something on fire because you don't want to share and not let anyone else use it.
- nepawoods, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2"You cannot continue to call it a Christmas tree and deny that it is a fully Christian symbol."
That's like saying you can't call it a hamburger and deny it is made of ham.
I know many non-Christians who put up trees, and call them "Christmas trees". It isn't religious. - swiseman, on 10/12/2007, -6/+5So the rabbi wanted to spread his message by threatening a lawsuit? Congratulations! Now 71% of Washington hates you, Scrooge! If I didn't have respect for all religious symbols, I'd tell you to stick your menorah up your ass. And then spin it a couple times.
- Jonas1982, on 10/12/2007, -5/+4The airport was being even more hard-headed than the rabbi by refusing to display a Menorah.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+4I didn't realize the only reason Christmas survived was because government put up all those Christmas trees. In fact, I had this wacky notion that Christmas was about family and needed no government endorsement whatsoever.
But then again, I'm not slavoring for a theocracy. - pr1268, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0The whole "Holiday Tree" idea seems like a nice compromise. After all, I've read and heard from various sources that "Christmas" trees were actually a pagan or non-sectarian tradition, and that it had a lot to do with a celebration of the Winter solstice (in Northern latitudes). Note that the most commonly-used species of trees are evergreens (fir, pine, juniper, etc.).
http://www.firstchristmastree.com/
http://www.christmastrees.on.ca/ednet/lesson1.html
http://www.history.com/minisite.do?content_type=Minisite_Generic&content_type_id=1284&display_order=4&mini_id=1290
That being said, I'm not upset that Seattle chose the easy way out of a sticky situation; after all, they have to avoid lawsuits the most effective way they can. They're correct in thinking that if they caved to a Rabbi's silly demands, then every other discrete religious faction would get their way with the Seattle Airport, also. Bah humbug! - deepdiggdude, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2Recast them as 'Holiday trees' and be careful not to decorate them with an angel or a star(Christian symbols) on top.
- Jonas1982, on 10/12/2007, -6/+3If you believe the tree is secular than you should refer to it as a Holiday tree. You cannot continue to call it a Christmas tree and deny that it is a fully Christian symbol. I am an atheist as well and I am more disgusted by the airport for allowing one overtly religous symbol but refusing to display another.
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