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- mnocket, on 11/01/2009, -27/+141I'll give you lots of money if you say you'll use it to create or save jobs. All you have to do is send in a report in several months and say you saved those jobs. If you happen to report that you created or saved more jobs than you actually did - no problem, we're not checking very closely. If the media actually checks and finds out that you reported falsely - no problem, we'll just call it an error - not fraud. So go ahead and use the money to give your people raises and falsely report you saved 129 jobs. It makes us look better and if you happen to get caught we'll call it a mistake - not fraud. That's what we call a win-win situation.
Now what could possibly go wrong with a program like this? - wilsonkeywest, on 11/01/2009, -16/+88That boils down to a cost per job of $92,000, Bernstein said.
- Troika37, on 11/01/2009, -39/+108What DO they know?
- dancenhance, on 11/02/2009, -18/+79It seems the only numbers the government gets right are the taxes we owe.
- missinglink, on 11/02/2009, -18/+79This comment will save or create 1,000 jobs!
Prove me wrong. - RealmDown, on 11/02/2009, -17/+74How to be ambiguous and still claim a positive result.
- TherealObadiah, on 11/02/2009, -31/+88Hey, it's the college age Diggers who are going to bear the brunt of Obama's reckless incompetence. Good luck finding a decent job after graduation when real unemployment is now around 17%. And if Obamacare passes it will suck even more life out of the economy!
- rizzo2008, on 11/02/2009, -24/+78Since when was close to 10% unemployment evidence of successful job creation?
- Bagos1, on 11/02/2009, -7/+54Did you forget the /s?
- pinchduck, on 11/02/2009, -5/+43And they make you do the math.
- drmangrum, on 11/02/2009, -6/+40Please please tell me that was sarcasm and you aren't that clueless.
- alais, on 11/02/2009, -8/+41Keep setting that bar low and you'll always be satisfied?
- BreakpointNate, on 11/02/2009, -21/+50No one can digg this post down. I m college age and the market is horrible for anyone graduating. No college people are getting jobs. Thanks Obama. Kind of funny that most college people voted for him, irony. zing!
- pathouston22, on 11/02/2009, -14/+41How to spend.
- akeldama, on 11/02/2009, -5/+28When this ridiculous "saved or created" balloon was first filled and floated, why did not a single member of the Press Corps question its ability to be accounted or scrutinized? This is really the first I've heard of it anywhere, and I've been asking this question myself for some time. "Jobs saved or created" is a White House CYA stimulus play, plain and simple.
- Wiini, on 11/02/2009, -10/+32Sorry, those 'blame bush' coupons have expired for Obama.
- biogears, on 11/02/2009, -18/+40Don't forget our grandkids have to pay the money back that created/saved these jobs.
- dwtc, on 11/02/2009, -0/+21Or make you pay someone else to do it for you.
- YZBot, on 11/02/2009, -9/+29Even IF there was a tangible paper trail that showed a specific job was created due to the stimulus, there is still the little known fact of the unseen consequences. Some other job was not created or saved. Most likely it will be the loss of a future job somewhere else in the economy due to increases in taxes or the loss of value in the dollar due to monetization of the debt.
The shortsightedness of politicians and the public in general is just mind blowing. People are throwing away longterm prosperity for a little shorterm satisfaction of feel good policies. - inactive, on 11/02/2009, -41/+61LMAO.......Obama hasn't saved anything. The government cannot create or save anything WITHOUT stealing it from someone who earned it. Cut the damn tax rate and watch the money flow into the USA. As a matter of fact, pass the fair tax and watch outside investment soar! http://www.fairtax.org
PLEASE, before you say no, at least take the time to READ it. - Waiting2awake, on 11/02/2009, -5/+24"Read Keynes."
- That explains why you are having a harder time with this. Keynes, as brilliant as he was, really didn't understand human nature. Maybe you should try Wealth of Nations for a more rounded conception?
"What's clueless about recognizing that the economy moves on expectations?"
- That expectations are expected to be fulfilled. When they aren't, as this can't be, then what? It is like living high on the hog with the expectation that you are going to hit the lotto - when you don't, what happens? Not only are you beaten down emotionally because the expectation wasn't fulfilled but you have incurred senseless debt that you can't repay. - therightside, on 11/02/2009, -24/+43Obama is mortgaging our childrens future for short term poplularity and you guys are falling for it.
- akeldama, on 11/02/2009, -5/+23You're a leftist tool. A little independent thought would do you well.
- FearlessFreep, on 11/02/2009, -12/+29Easy, just say "if it wasn't for us and this plan you must pass now unemployment will be 12%" and then when it hits only 10% you can say "see, success" in spite of the fact that the 12% number was just FUD in the first place
- ftx437, on 11/02/2009, -8/+24Then you are very misguided,
I bet you also still blame bush - boozedrinker, on 11/02/2009, -5/+21"agreed. we need to stop blaming the leader of our government for his own failed program."
WTF? If it's "his own failed program" shouldn't we be blaming him? - akeldama, on 11/02/2009, -4/+19You don't justify bad behavior by pointing to other bad behavior.
- TrevorBelmont, on 11/02/2009, -3/+18That is a profoundly stupid statement.
- AbsurdParadox, on 11/02/2009, -2/+17No, it shouldn't.
- JayTee44, on 11/02/2009, -1/+16Obama increase govt spending by a factor of 4 over Bush. So are you 4 times more disgusted? No, you're too busy bashing Bush.
- ProfessorRiffs, on 11/02/2009, -31/+45Obama can't tell? Try "the government can't tell".... one man is not the entire government.
- mnocket, on 11/02/2009, -2/+16By the poor that are getting *****, do you mean the 40% of american households that pay NO federal income tax?
- COinOR, on 11/02/2009, -1/+15how is this trivial?
- Rugrash, on 11/02/2009, -18/+32They DO know that it was GW's fault...lol /s
- drmangrum, on 11/02/2009, -1/+15@SummerofGeorge
What part of his post was incoherent? - greendalek, on 11/02/2009, -8/+21Truly, is there anyone here who honestly believes that the government can "create" jobs? Both parties make this promise all the damned time and it NEVER FREAKING HAPPENS. Unemployment continues to rise, the debt continues to grow, and the Fed continues to magically print more money out of thin air to cover it.
I don't care WHICH party is running the show, government CANNOT CREATE JOBS. Period. Auto-deduct 50 I.Q. points from anyone who asserts that it can. (Start with Ben Bernanke.) - Skyplatoon, on 11/02/2009, -2/+15True, it could be the end of the republican party but when the dust settles and this country realizes they elected a president who spends more time trying to be a celebrity than he does actually implementing his policies we shall see the end of ignorance as well. And take Reid and Pelosi with you too, they shame our ancestors.
- dalittle, on 11/02/2009, -3/+16Obama just approved a $672 Billion Defense Appropriations Bill. Oddly not a peep out of you guys. Who exactly are we fighting that needs that kind of money?
- drmangrum, on 11/02/2009, -2/+14Funny, I voted for Obama. So, by your measure, I technically "won" the election. However, I can't stand many of Obama's little stunts or his "change." I, like many others, are having severe voters remorse.
- roddack, on 11/02/2009, -2/+14What you think saving/creating 640,329 job for only an average of $1,229,055.69 spent per job was a good thing?
- redxii, on 11/02/2009, -6/+17Higher Dow ≠ Recovery
The higher Dow only currently indicates that they know how to debase the USD, which has been in a freefall since Obama rammed his porkulus through Congress. You can also see it in higher commodity prices. - marksangenito, on 11/02/2009, -7/+18"That boils down to a cost per job of $92,000, Bernstein said."
Probably would have been better giving 1.28 million people $46,000 each, what a ***** joke. - methdwman3, on 11/02/2009, -2/+13What does GLenn Beck have to do with anything??
- Stingrays, on 11/02/2009, -6/+17Nothing, except how to waste money and ***** over the American populace in as many ways as they can.
- scoottie, on 11/02/2009, -18/+29Do not question the messiah
/s - lindenwold, on 11/02/2009, -4/+15Keyword: *MAY*
- DarkShroud, on 11/02/2009, -5/+15More like great grand children with the way Obama is spending.
- BreakpointNate, on 11/02/2009, -3/+13Before you try to say 95% or higher try looking for sources, college employment rates are down
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=college+e ... - Waiting2awake, on 11/02/2009, -2/+12Chuck _ so spending 92K per job, without cause - is a good plan to you?
Sometimes the right thing to do - is nothing. - Waiting2awake, on 11/02/2009, -2/+12Dalittle - Those things that cost that money that you are clearly, and IMO rightly, angry about are still going on. All that money is still happening, AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, Obama is spending how much more?
If Bush was bad IYO, then how can Obama be anything but worse? -
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