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Savage Defends His Comments, Claims Media Matters Hates Kids

thinkprogress.org — Last week, Media Matters caught right-wing radio talker Michael Savage claiming that autism is a “fraud” and “a racket” Savage refuses to apologize. On Larry King Live last night, he told guest host Glenn Beck that he had simply been “taken out of context” by “men who specialize in hating families and children, namely Media Matters

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  • RealmDown, on 07/22/2008, -23/+7This will teach him to share ideas over lunch with Don Imus.
    • bjornski, on 07/23/2008, -2/+8Imus help kids with "issues". Him and his ranch actually do a lot of good there.

      Tho his racist blatherings on the radio still make him look like an idiot.

      I actually like Imus, except for his racist views.
  • SouthernGuy118, on 07/22/2008, -16/+28..and down syndrome...total BS!!
    • Onion575, on 07/23/2008, -12/+6Down syndrome is a clearly visible and identifiable disease. Unfortunately, autism is not so.
      • Abomonog, on 07/23/2008, -4/+9Methinks you missed the sarcasm.
      • siszam, on 07/23/2008, -3/+5Clearly you haven't met many people with autism.
      • jaredcat, on 07/23/2008, -6/+4Well thats the whole point.. there are medical tests available that clearly diagnose downs syndrome. autism requires a subjective diagnosis, with a scale of survey questions such as 'does the child like to line up objects?' or 'does the child make a habit of counting things?'

        now there are very clear cases of autism, but the study that savage was refuting claimed that 1 out of 150 children in the US suffer from some form of autism, and that using these surveys, a diagnosis could be made as young as 2 years old. i think many people would agree with savage that this is abserd.

        using that kind of broad spectrum diagnosis includes many succesful and capable people under the 'autism' umbrella. for example, einstein, bill gates, and savage himself would all have been diagnosed as mildly autistic today and put on medication. that is what savage is complaining about--- albeit he did so with a poor choice of words.
  • Babblin5, on 07/22/2008, -19/+5He seriously needs to get laid...
    • dondara, on 07/23/2008, -6/+12Or dropped in a wood chipper. I good with either.
      • Coven, on 07/23/2008, -4/+11Just as long as they lower him in legs first
      • StaticThunder, on 07/23/2008, -3/+9No no, just make him live in San Francisco. Its more cruel that way.
      • bjornski, on 07/23/2008, -0/+9He already lives in the Bay Area.

        Isn't that San Francisco?

        /stupid MN resident here.
      • StaticThunder, on 07/23/2008, -2/+4Well, that explains the bitter complaining about it.
    • wishninja, on 07/23/2008, -3/+2Agreed I think he's probably homosexual so getting laid for him will keep him out of heaven.
      • bjornski, on 07/23/2008, -1/+5He's got a romantic tryst with Alan Ginsberg in his past.

        Look it up. The man was a man-loving, tree-hugging, hippie beat-poet loving flower child who wanted to save the world with his natural cures.

        He's come to hate everything his own past stood for.
  • tufftugg, on 07/23/2008, -42/+61 'right-wing' = morons'
  • alapoet, on 07/23/2008, -19/+83Michael Savage has revealed himself to be an ignorant blowhard... again.
    • stix213, on 07/23/2008, -9/+22As usual these are comments taken out of context. Even the clip from Glen's show in the link conveniently removed his rebuttal and explanation.

      Savage has said Autism exists over and over and over and over. You morons who are condemning him obviously didn't hear the show, nor have you actually looked into the cause of the recent surge in Autism cases. I'm sure your level of research into the subject, nor your mental capacity to do so, doesn't go beyond reading left wing blogs.

      The 99% of kids he was referring to was not kids with autism, but the kids misdiagnosed with autism due to the recent enlarging of the definition of autism to what they now call the "Autism Spectrum" where you don't actually have full blown Autism, but share some of the symptoms. The autism spectrum is analogous to saying someone who needs glasses is part of the blindness spectrum. Now with the new definition of Autism, the drug companies are having a field day, which was what they wanted when they had the definition changed.

      http://www.tomholman.com/msdd.htm

      Savage was saying that 99% of those kids WHO WERE MISDIAGNOSED with autism were just misbehaving, etc... not that 99% of kids diagnosed with autism were just misbehaving. The percentages of children misdiagnosed with autism vary from expert to expert. 40-60% of all child autism cases are misdiagnosed is the range I see most often. The medical doctor Savage had on his show discussing the topic put the figure at 58% based on his research. (and Savage was saying that 99% of that 58% were misbehaving, not 99% of all cases)

      Savage has said over and over and over that Autism is absolutely real! But, the drug companies and doctors who peddle their drugs are in a rush to diagnose children with mild social abnormalities with autism... hence the drug company backed new definition of Autism as the Autism Spectrum, which by itself has lead to the dramatic increase in cases of Autism. Not to mention that 100% of the tests for Autism are completely subjective, since there are no biological markers for the disease.

      Today, anyone who is even slightly anti-social (like most diggers) absolutely falls into the Autism Spectrum. Yes, you reading this article have Autism by the new medical definition, and if a doctor quizzed you, you would have some nice new drugs waiting for you at the pharmacy to change your behavior.

      http://www.nichd.nih.gov/health/topics/asd.cfm

      Current symptoms of the Autism Spectrum of disorders accepted by today's doctors are even mild problems in these areas:
      * Communication - both verbal (spoken) and non-verbal (unspoken, such as pointing, eye contact, and smiling)
      * Social - such as sharing emotions, understanding how others think and feel, and holding a conversation
      * Routines or repetitive behaviors (also called stereotyped behaviors) - such as repeating words or actions, obsessively following routines or schedules, and playing in repetitive ways

      Yes, if you don't like to talk to people as much as some of your friends... If you don't really like to share your emotions... If you do a few repetitive behaviors (like sitting in front of Digg everyday)..... If you keep playing that same copy of Star Craft you have had for 10 years..... Then YOU HAVE AUTISM BY DEFINITION! And getting a diagnosis of Autism opens the floodgates for both your ca$h and the health insurance company's.

      Media Matters does this every single time, and you morons who are too lazy to get a copy of the actual text before and after their cherry picked clip just lap it up like the sheeple you are.

      Wake up and do a little thinking for yourself for once!!!!
      • rexcom, on 07/23/2008, -11/+1I just want to chime in and say. . . poop.
      • TheToad1, on 07/23/2008, -3/+8stix213 - thank you for posting all the information these people are too lazy to research.

        Sheeple.
      • Tomchei, on 07/23/2008, -3/+8Pretty funny that the `article` is taken out of context as well.

        I usually don't agree with Savage but his full educated opinion on the matter is right on.
        Media Matters hates families.
      • haydesigner, on 07/23/2008, -8/+8Even if that was his original statement (haven't seen it, don't care), his responses alone have shown him to be an ignorant asswipe.

        "Media Matters hates kids"? Seriously, that's his primary response/explanation?

        Combined with all the other racist and homophobic ranting I have read from him before this, he deserves everything that is coming to him for this episode.
      • Thuktun, on 07/23/2008, -2/+4This is overly-simplistic. Having a symptom of a condition does not mean you *have* that condition, there are other tests necessary.

        A cough is one symptom of a cold. It's also a symptom of many other things, so having a cough does not imply you have a cold. Either way, though, if the cough impairs your function, you may want to be treated.

        Autism happens to share some symptoms with ADD or ADHD, that does not mean those symptoms imply autism. (It does, however, lead to misdiagnosis.) Either way, you (or your parents) may want treatment for it if it impairs your function.
      • etherreal, on 07/23/2008, -1/+7Stix, thank you for your post. It was dead on. I am no fan of Micheal Savage, I listen to him merely for the entertainment factor (same reason I listen to that douche Hannity). Savage was clearly taken out of context here. He had a very nice conversation as a result with a representative of an Autism activist group, he cleared the air, explained how he was taken out of context, and everyone was happy. I agree with Savage on this topic, our kids are overdiagnosed and overmedicated. He said himself, the misdiagnosed are taking resources away from the kids that really need the help. He repeated over and over that he has no problem with "real autistic" kids getting the treatment they need.
      • chrislerch, on 07/23/2008, -6/+3"The autism spectrum is analogous to saying someone who needs glasses is part of the blindness spectrum."

        And you still treat the problem, not slap the kid on the head and tell them to "just see better". That's why Savage is an idiot.
      • stix213, on 07/23/2008, -3/+4"And you still treat the problem, not slap the kid on the head and tell them to "just see better". That's why Savage is an idiot." - chrislerch

        No *****, but treating your child's mild anti-social behavior with the drugs originally developed to control patients at mental hospitals (which is what they are doing) isn't the right answer.... which was Savage's entire point.
      • stix213, on 07/23/2008, -1/+5Hey Thuktun you are 100% repeating Savage's own point. Just because your kid may be a bit anti-social doesn't mean that your kid actually has Autism, but many are being misdiagnosed and proscribed extremely powerful and damaging drugs.

        Thanks for making Savage's point more clear.
      • stix213, on 07/23/2008, -2/+5Heydesigner - you are the poster child of ignorance with your "haven't seen it, don't care" statement. If you don't care to even get the facts, why do you feel your opinion is important?

        Plus, all the racist and homophobic rants you heard also came from Media Matters, which were taken out of context as well. I'm sure you "haven't seen it, don't care" to check if those were actually true or not either.

        Next time your knowledge of a subject extends to "haven't seen it, don't care" please keep your ignorant opinion to yourself.
      • Monk22, on 07/23/2008, -2/+4@haydesigner: this was his response from the website the day after the show and the media blowup

        The Autism Controversy

        My comments about autism were meant to boldly awaken parents and children to the medical community's attempt to label too many children or adults as "autistic."

        Just as some drug companies have overdiagnosed "ADD" and "ADHD" to peddle dangerous speed-like drugs to children as young as 4 years of age, this cartel of doctors and drug companies is now creating a national panic by overdiagnosing "autism, for which there is no definitive medical diagnosis!

        Many children are being victimized by being diagnosed with an "illness" which may not exist, in all cases. Just a few weeks ago doctors recommended dangerous anti-cholesterol drugs for children as young as 2 years of age! Without any scientific studies on the possible dangers of such drugs on children, corrupt doctors made this controversial, unscientific recommendation.

        Increasingly, our children are being used as profit centers by a greedy, corrupt medical/pharmaceutical establishment. As the brother of a severely disabled person who suffered and died in a New York "snake-pit" of a "mental hospital," I know first-hand what true disability is.

        To permit greedy doctors to include children in medical categories which may not be appropriate is a crime against that child and their family. Let the truly autistic be treated. Let the falsely diagnosed be free.

        Michael Savage
      • ManyAsOne, on 07/23/2008, -0/+3Has anyone considered the possibility that the same arguments you're making against overmedicating hypothetically misdiagnosed kids may be just as valid for autistic kids who were diagnosed accurately? Those psychotropic drugs aren't any less powerful or dangerous for an autistic child than they are for a non-autistic child, after all. There are better and safer ways of handling so-called 'problem behaviors' than heavy-duty neuroleptics- they just take actual effort.
      • stix213, on 07/23/2008, -0/+2@ManyAsOne

        Hey now, keep your old fashioned medicine to yourself and get with the 21st century. In today's world when you have any problem, you should be only a signed check away from a solution.

        Are you actually suggesting taking some personal time away from your own wants and needs to help a.... child, when drugging the child into submission would both solve the behavior problem and utilize only minutes a day???

        We cured ADHD without spending a minute more of our time than necessary, and I won't let another parent's afternoon be wasted when their health insurance already covers a quick fix!
  • Detritus, on 07/23/2008, -21/+75I'm glad to hear this guy is getting canceled all over. Parents dealing with autism have so much to contend with, they don't deserve blowhards like this jackass blaming them for their kids' condition.
    • dropnet, on 07/23/2008, -24/+8I think Savage is a tool. No question there. However, in this country we have a little thing called free speech. Sure, none of us here agree with what he has said, but---that doesn't give people to right to tear down his radio shows. Same with Imus. What he said was beyond inconsiderate, but again--- free speech people. Question: why can't we all just let people say whatever-- and let them look like idiots-- instead of running all over the place screaming "Oh, Oh my God, he said really, really mean things. What a meanie head. We should ruin his career and spread it all over the news."
      Get over it people.
      Next topic please, preferably one with substance.
      • diggduggDOOM, on 07/23/2008, -3/+29I have to admit I haven't looked too closely at this particular situation, but I don't think free speech is the issue here. Freedom of speech does not mean you are free from consequences. Is Savage being censored by the government? I think it's much more likely that people upset with his comments are contacting the radio station and its advertisers to complain. The radio station is free to discontinue the program, and the advertisers are free to pull their advertising money.

        Get over it.
      • hauntedchippy, on 07/23/2008, -4/+19No one is argueing AGAINST free speech here. In fact I think everyone is much happier that this guy had the freedom to say what he did, now we all know what kind of person he is.
      • Evilena, on 07/23/2008, -2/+12The 1st amendment only applies to the government. No one is telling him he can't turn his stupid little show into a podcast.
      • kayala, on 07/23/2008, -1/+12There's a difference between freely speaking on your own time and your own dime and being paid to work for a broadcast network. For instance, we fire news anchors who get off-topic and start ranting about how much terrible stuff Bush has done in the middle of a report on the latest G8 summit. If you do not please your network, you get fired. If you do not please your audience and the complain to your network, you get fired. Freedom of speech doesn't carry total protection from the consequences of saying stupid *****.
      • tdogg241, on 07/23/2008, -2/+15You're absolutely right, we do have freedom of speech, and blowhards like Savage and Imus are living proof of that. Neither are in a prison cell for what they said, right?

        People like you misunderstand what "freedom of speech" means. Savage being cancelled has nothing to do with his right to say what he wants, he's just losing his platform to spread what he's saying. People in broadcasting should know by now that if you say some ignorant or unpopular *****, there's going to be consequences.

        But not from the government.
      • greenm1981, on 07/23/2008, -2/+15Right, and clients have the right to yank their advertising dollars from supporting his show. Savage may say whatever he wants, but those offended have the right to demand that his show be cancelled.
    • clak, on 07/23/2008, -3/+23@dropnet

      Free speech doesn't mean you can't lose your job over saying stupid things. Go ahead and try it. Go to your boss right now and tell him you want to rape his wife and see how long you stay on the job. Free speech means you don't go to jail for what you say, but even then, it has limits. For example, you can go to jail just for threatening someone.

      So, yeah, free speech is great, but don't exaggerate. Free speech has limits.
      • skyscape, on 07/23/2008, -4/+2Kind of like you cant say George Bush is a moron?
        This isnt soviet Russia my friend. When it will be, then you will not be able to say these things. Right now, defend free speech while you have it.
      • kayala, on 07/23/2008, -1/+2Skyscape, you must be making a valiant effort not to understand. Clak spelled out the concept perfectly.
    • stix213, on 07/23/2008, -7/+3"Parents dealing with autism have so much" -- Detritus

      Why would you say that these parents have so much??? Do you want to take from parents of Autistic kids???

      (sarcastic mis-quote, just like the Savage misquote you morons are masturbating over)
      • Detritus, on 07/23/2008, -2/+6Wow...

        "Now, the illness du jour is autism. You know what autism is? I'll tell you what autism is. In 99 percent of the cases, it's a brat who hasn't been told to cut the act out. That's what autism is.

        What do you mean they scream and they're silent? They don't have a father around to tell them, 'Don't act like a moron. You'll get nowhere in life. Stop acting like a putz. Straighten up. Act like a man. Don't sit there crying and screaming, idiot.'"

        I don't think you can hide behind this being mis-quote or out-of-context or anything else. Right there is a whole block of text coming out of his mouth in the order he said. ***** this guy, and ***** you for trying to defend him.
    • Verz, on 07/23/2008, -7/+12I have an autistic younger brother and I agree with Savage. If my brother wasn't constantly spoonfed and sheltered by my parents and was made to go out more and not spend 14 hours a day playing video games, he'd be in a much better social condition right now. My parents are both foreign and speak broken English, so that was over half of the English he has ever heard in his younger years, damaging his core lingual development and making it harder for him to communicate like most people do. That is hard to unlearn - imagine ridding yourself of your natural accent and relearning a language you thought you knew. But recently I've worked with him long and hard to try to help him. I believed that he could actually get better, unlike his counselors and therapists that immediately slapped on a disorder sticker on his forehead, hit him up on some mystery drugs and called it a day, almost destroying any hope for him and my family that he could function as a regular human being in society. And what a surprise! after a few weeks of work he's been making more progress than he has ever been, with me there to help him build his lingual skills up from scratch.

      Anyway, my point is that autism is mostly an environmental thing, and it can almost always be avoided or hurdled over. We all have our little natural mutations that make it naturally harder for us to learn some things and easier to learn others (otherwise we'd all be brilliant actors and mathematicians), but we generally learn to cope with those mutations and teach ourselves (or get taught) to function on an at least satisfactory level in most aspects of our lives. If parents treat their kids like they're magically perfect in every way their entire lives, the imaginary castle that they've built for them will all come tumbling down on them once they figure out that they don't know how to function with other people. Give your kids a degree of discipline, or at least make them go OUT starting from a young age so they can make their own mistakes and relationships to develop their core, and they'll have enough cognitive ability later on to thank you.
    • skyscape, on 07/23/2008, -8/+13Parents who have kids with Autism were simply made to believe their kids have autism. Thats the difference. Do research on internet and find out what real autism is. We have bunch of foolish liberals on digg who think they are enlightened and know so much about Autism. Although I know very little about Michael Savage, I know his right.

      I'm not foolish enough to give my kid to drug peddlers who want to destroy the brain of my child by injecting drugs into him which were used in the past on inraged inmates.
      • bjornski, on 07/23/2008, -2/+9My ex-wife's daughter is autistic. It's not something her "mom was talked into believing". After living with her, I didn't need a doctor to "talk me into believing" it either.

        You know very little of what you're talking about.

        And you know very little about Savage, but you know he's right.

        Aaah, the opinions of the ignorant. Thanks for the contribution.
  • crom99, on 07/23/2008, -17/+61He just can't seem to stop vomiting stupid.
    • edgedmurasame, on 07/23/2008, -1/+1Well, he has to have a regular intake of it as well.
  • nellshini, on 07/23/2008, -16/+13This article would've been much cooler if it had been about Randy Savage like I had originally thought...
    • Evilena, on 07/23/2008, -1/+2Michael Savage makes Randay Savage sound like Jesse Ventura.
    • sugarazor, on 07/23/2008, -2/+2OOOOOOOH YEEEEEAAAHHH! SNAP INTO AUTISM, DIG IT?!
  • rlh1, on 07/23/2008, -18/+21This really can't be a serious thread................. I am 99.3245 % positive that no one on Digg ever listens to him.
    • xsecretfiles, on 07/23/2008, -16/+5I used to, but I found it too obnoxious and the local station here moved the show late at night

      But like you said, this is a very left wing site and any right wing nut job will appeal to the masses, which have no idea who the guy is
      • JackSrenton, on 07/23/2008, -8/+4I always figured he was well known, ive heard him and I dont like him. I guess you could consider me left wing.

        And when did rlh1 say this is a very left wing site?

        thats called putting words in peoples mouths.
    • Scrappy1850, on 07/23/2008, -2/+10i dont agree with him, but i find his show and the conversations entertaining.
      • Thuktun, on 07/23/2008, -5/+2His show is entertaining in the same way as watching a skateboarder fail and faceplant. You feel you shouldn't be entertained by it, grimace and move on to something else.
      • etherreal, on 07/23/2008, -0/+2I also find his show entertaining even though I dont agree with him. He has some pretty interesting stories.
    • Evilena, on 07/23/2008, -2/+9Its really annoying when people just make up statistics.

      I am 100% positive that someone on DIgg has listened to him at least once.
    • Abomonog, on 07/23/2008, -8/+3rlh1: Even digg has it's share of idiots. As your -1 digg count shows.
    • rz8472, on 07/23/2008, -3/+5I do... Savage is so far to the right that he is hilarious. He actually DEFENDED the Texas polygamists, claiming that their 'persecution' was an attack by feminists on 'The Patriarchy'*

      *he casts that term in a positive light
      • etherreal, on 07/23/2008, -0/+4@rz8472 Um, actually, the women were quite happy to be part of their cult. It is completely within their right to do so. The government had very flimsy evidence and no right to bring them down.
      • Scrappy1850, on 07/24/2008, -0/+1somebody should have consulted you before they put that whole "freedom of religion" thing in the bill o' rights.
    • skyscape, on 07/23/2008, -1/+4Not only that, On digg no one reads original articles, they jump from headline to commenting.
    • Anonchrist, on 07/23/2008, -1/+1Personally, I think of it as monitoring a religious extremist that tries to spread his extremism by mixing it with misinformation, and common sense that everyone agrees with.

      Maybe one day he will realize that a limited government leaves no room for the government to dictate religion and morals to us. Involving such ideas in government makes him more of a socialist than he accuses Obama of being.

      And sometimes, just for the lulz.

    • mllawso, on 07/24/2008, -1/+1Whoa, someone needs to learn about significant digits.
  • ssn697, on 07/23/2008, -14/+23This may set a new standard for the "taken out of context" claim.
    • haydesigner, on 07/23/2008, -3/+6And may also set a standard for bat-***** insane reactions from the accused.
  • colonelbuckshot, on 07/23/2008, -10/+24Sometimes I wonder if Michael Weiner is a deliberate caricature or parody of the right wing
  • mile, on 07/23/2008, -37/+14media matters are total pricks. every last one of them. same with move on whack jobs. total asses. people lie so much these days that there is no telling who to believe anymore. global warming is a crock, weapons of mass destruction.... uh - yea, all that crap we went to war over, obama and clinton lying through their teeth during this entire campaign, local politicians getting caught left and right lying, cheating and stealing. Everyone has a cause these day and they go to CRIMINAL lengths to expose the cause and to generate publicity for the cause.

    I really dont believe a damn thing I hear anymore unless I see it for myself.
    • sugarazor, on 07/23/2008, -4/+20You don't believe a thing you hear unless you see it?
    • omegared, on 07/23/2008, -4/+13so do you believe in history because you didn't live it? or do you think ww2 was a lie? good to see that your a scientist since i guess you also don't believe anything they say until you do you own research and experiments.
    • stix213, on 07/23/2008, -6/+2And all these morons here digging you down and just lapping it up. They cut out just a couple sentences before the clip that made the context of the 99% figure make absolute sense.
    • greenm1981, on 07/23/2008, -0/+3It makes my day when people like you attempt to attack some person or group on their merits, but end up illustrating your own ignorance. Why should I take anything you say seriously when you can't even lash together a decent sentence.
    • BlacklabelSAR, on 07/23/2008, -0/+2So what did you think of the Video/Audio clip? ;)
    • MammasMilk, on 07/23/2008, -0/+1So you don't believe that you're mom and dad were bumpn' uglies in order to create your dumb-ass? Or did they video tape it for you?
  • reelskamachine, on 07/23/2008, -10/+42Its true, and according to Tom Cruise, ADD doesn't exist either. Look people, they're experts, you're not. They have science to prove it. Science and Xenon on their side.
  • kayala, on 07/23/2008, -12/+33What an *****. If Don Imus can fire up a ***** over "nappy-headed hos", then Michael Savage should be tarred and feathered for total disrespect towards kids with real disabilities.
    • tdogg241, on 07/23/2008, -4/+8Are you implying that being a "nappy-headed ho" isn't a *real* disability!?

      /kidding
    • etherreal, on 07/23/2008, -4/+6Savage did not disrespect kids with disabilities. He disrespected parents and doctors so eager to diagnose autistics that essentially all kids get diagnosed as "autistic".
      • kayala, on 07/23/2008, -2/+4People keep sticking to Savage's nonsense but obviously have no clue what autism is or what it entails. You'd know if a kid were autistic, I promise you that. Not even a thick-headed Savage worshiper could see a truly autistic child and say that all the kid needs is a father there to tell him to stop acting like a putz.
      • etherreal, on 07/24/2008, -0/+1Actually, I do know what I am talking about. I have seen the Autism screening process, my son went through it. It's a ***** joke. There is no doubt that there are serious Autism cases out there, but this is not what this is about. This is about expanding the definition of Autism from those who truly need care to just about everyone.
    • rock774, on 07/24/2008, -0/+1http://www.breggin.com/
      • kayala, on 07/24/2008, -0/+3As believable as the source may be, the line "what your doctor doesn't know/doesn't want you to know" automatically marks a site as ***** for me.
  • RegalBegal, on 07/23/2008, -14/+14....and to think he used to suck Ferlinghetti's and Ginsburg's *****.

  • CrazyChester, on 07/23/2008, -21/+31Jesus Christ. They let Glenn Beck guest host? He's worse than Goebbels.
    • hydrogenbomb, on 07/23/2008, -9/+1Glen Beck is a converted mormon. He has 3 wives and 30 children.
    • haydesigner, on 07/23/2008, -3/+2"He's worse than Goebbels"

      Not a fan of his, but that is just a *slight* overstatement.
      (Rove, on the other hand...)
  • Chahrlie5, on 07/23/2008, -6/+36TIMMAH!
    • FukUrCouch, on 07/23/2008, -5/+8YOUR LIVIN A LIE!
    • PJ1967, on 07/23/2008, -5/+8Stop faking it, Timmy!!!
    • bjornski, on 07/23/2008, -3/+2I think Michael is seeing little pink Christina Aguilera monsters....
      • FukUrCouch, on 07/23/2008, -3/+0I was going to say HUH?....then i saw your ralph wiggum pic....it all makes sense now...
  • wildone71, on 07/23/2008, -32/+12Go Savage!! He exposes the crazies for what they are! Liberalism is a mental disorder for sure!
    • Coven, on 07/23/2008, -5/+12you forgot the '/s'
    • fsweep, on 07/23/2008, -8/+13And conservatives are not pathologically paranoid?
      • kayala, on 07/23/2008, -5/+8In the "conservatives" I've dealt with here, I've seen paranoia, schizophrenia, persecution complexes and pathological lying. It's not pretty.
    • kayala, on 07/23/2008, -2/+12And we know this because Savage is a professional psychologist...?
      • StaticThunder, on 07/23/2008, -1/+12I think he said he was a nutritionist that couldn't find work because of affirmative action.
      • bjornski, on 07/23/2008, -0/+7He used to be a Ginsberg snuggling flower-child who wanted to save the world with his rain forest cures.

        And he was turned down.

        So he got mad, and devoted the rest of his life to taking down "those hippie vermin" who wouldn't make him a famous doctor.
  • ronpaulblows, on 07/23/2008, -18/+50Glenn Beck interviewing Savage? Talk about the willfully ignorant leading the willfully ignorant.
    • edgedmurasame, on 07/23/2008, -1/+3...or practicing "free speech" while silencing dissent.
    • cdelwood, on 07/24/2008, -2/+1Kind of like the Big 3 anchors interviewing Obama, huh?
  • pintomp3, on 07/23/2008, -11/+26michael weiner is a homophobic, xenophobic blowhard.
    • mtjohnson, on 07/23/2008, -3/+2You could have just said republican, we would have known what you meant.
  • Treoinmypocket, on 07/23/2008, -18/+8The funniest thing about this is when you google for this ("Savage autism") you get a mojority of first page results that this has "unleashed a fury of attacks from Hollywood".

    I nearly laughed myself off the chair. Why the hell is Hollywood so upset and why would anyone care?
    • ProUSADigger, on 07/23/2008, -14/+11Because liberals always look to celebrities to tell them what they are
      supposed to think.
      • kayala, on 07/23/2008, -7/+7That's cute, because the braindead "conservatives" on this site tend to sit eagerly and let Laura Ingraham and Rush Limbaugh tell them what to believe. At least the liberals you bemoan have learned to think for themselves.
      • bluto36, on 07/23/2008, -7/+6At least the liberals you bemoan have learned to think for themselves.

        BuuWaHaHahahaha

        that is funny! good job
    • omegared, on 07/23/2008, -6/+14and conservatives look to people like rush, savage, bush and glen beck, all respectable people......
  • Intercon, on 07/23/2008, -9/+32

    The guy has an ad on his website for a t-shirt that says "I'd Rather Be Waterboarding." Obviously he's an evil ignorant swine wrapped in a flag. I'd normally assume that no one would listen to an ass like that, but there's too much of this ***** floating around the public forum these days. Nice to see the people lean on advertisers to get rid of this douchebag.
    • BobsYourUncle, on 07/23/2008, -5/+11"I'd normally assume that no one would listen to an ass like that..."
      Have you been following American politics at ANY time in the last 8 years? If you have, then that's a pretty stupid assumption.
    • executorzz, on 07/23/2008, -6/+8Obviously you've never listened to his show and are reacting to what a bunch of detractors say about him.
  • sonaboy, on 07/23/2008, -10/+19the cause of autism in children?
    Rock Star Energy Drinks.
    Go ahead - look it up.
    it's science...
    • sugarazor, on 07/23/2008, -3/+4Well, most energy drink commercials make me feel retarded... is that what you're referring to?
    • rz8472, on 07/23/2008, -1/+3Savage's son owns the company that distributes those drinks
  • evo8ftw, on 07/23/2008, -30/+9"Last week, Media Matters caught right-wing radio talker Michael Savage claiming that autism is a “fraud” and “a racket” Savage refuses to apologize." ZZOOOOOOM thank you media matters you caught him if you wouldn't of caught him no one would of ever noticed.

    Last time I checked the 1st amendment was still valid you don't like his opinion so be. He has just as much right to say what he is saying as you do to say you don't like him. If you want him to stop how about media matters and thinkprogressive and thedailykos and moveon.org stop.
    • nblsavage, on 07/23/2008, -3/+25As in the Dixie Chicks case (as conservatives are fond of pointing out) Freedom of speech doesn't shield you from the repercussions of said speech. Or do you only think it applies to people you agree with?
    • FukUrCouch, on 07/23/2008, -4/+13Do you say whatever you want when you go to work? Call you boss a ***** sucker and then tell him it's you 1st amendment right to do so. Should you be fired for that?
    • Nairebis, on 07/23/2008, -1/+21The first amendment guarantees the government not stepping in to stop speech. The first amendment does *not* guarantee a forum for your speech. If certain groups thinks he's an idiot and should be removed from the airwaves, it's their right to speak their mind. If the advertisers don't like what he says, it's their right to pull their advertising.

      If Savage gets canned, his free speech rights have not been taken away. He can still say whatever he wants. He just doesn't have his particular (privately owned) forum anymore.
    • omegared, on 07/23/2008, -4/+8so he can say what he wants, so can thedailykos, moveon.org and all thus left wing blogs right? what did media matters, they pointed out what he said.
    • kayala, on 07/23/2008, -3/+12Freedom of speech does not imply freedom from criticism.
      • skyscape, on 07/23/2008, -4/+3You can criticize but don't threaten. Racketeers like Media Matter and MOveon hoaxers are not the ones to criticize. For some reason legit agencies dont criticize such NY times, LA times, CBS, NBC, FOX...etc only front groups who were put together for special agendas.
  • rationalbeats, on 07/23/2008, -23/+18Another McCain supporter showing their true grasp of reality.
    • executorzz, on 07/23/2008, -5/+19Another digger using group think.

      He is definitely not a supporter of John Mccain.
      • Thuktun, on 07/23/2008, -1/+7No, he thinks John McCain is too liberal.
      • executorzz, on 07/23/2008, -0/+2McCain is far from being a conservative if you take a look at the issues he supports.
    • stix213, on 07/23/2008, -2/+12hahahahaha, you dumbass moron. Savage absolutely hates McCain, and says that like every 5 minutes on the show.
    • nutmac, on 07/23/2008, -1/+1I see what you did there. A$$hole = McCain supporter. I guess you are a McCain supporter too then.
  • solodan1000, on 07/23/2008, -7/+21Think Progress just made Savage's point. We didn't even see his response and it just ended with the host saying he has special need kids.
    • careyyb2000, on 07/23/2008, -2/+0Talk about the negative responses to the article about Michael Savage......don't you folks work? Who here has a PHD in the sciences? not many! A bunch of blowhards waiting to pounce on any mistatement a person makes.
  • careyyb2000, on 07/23/2008, -29/+8Wake up people, this guy is very educated and has eaten the apple from the tree of wisdom to enlighten those that will listen to the problems facing the United States. Listen sometime and experience insight and a different perspective. Some of his comments are quite remarkable.
    • Munkoh, on 07/23/2008, -8/+6Whoa finally someone who is not completely lost their mind. Bravo :)
    • amoirae, on 07/23/2008, -6/+7Do you two want to be left alone to have your circle jerk in peace?
      • Munkoh, on 07/23/2008, -8/+0Now Now, stop telling us about your wet dreams kid.
      • bluto36, on 07/23/2008, -5/+1at least you can dream fap fap fap
  • Skywise, on 07/23/2008, -8/+31"BECK: It seems pretty clear you don’t really believe autism exists?

    SAVAGE: No, no, no, no. Again, you took what they gave you but you didn’t take the entire preceding material. Preceding this, Glenn, was a discussion of the American Academy of Pediatrics, which has had the nerve to say that children as young as two years of age should be given anti-cholesterol drugs.

    BECK: Right.

    SAVAGE: There’s been not one study about the damage this would do or potentially do to two year-olds, and yet you have had doctors come out and say these drugs should be given to the children. This was in the broader context of the over-medicalization, the over- diagnose of disease, using our children as profit centers. I’ve spent all day saying what a shame it is that I, as man who has spent his entire life defending the defenseless, mainly children, should have to defend myself from charges leveled at me by men who specialize in hating families and children, namely Media Matters who probably come after you as well, by ripping me out of context and making me look like the monster that they are."
    • Swift2, on 07/23/2008, -12/+11In other words, change the subject when asked to defend something undeniably false and "savage" as well. But it's fine. Der Fuhrer loves it when you hate science. Michael Weiner (his real name) would love to sell you some crackpot cures, as he did in his former life.
      • stix213, on 07/23/2008, -4/+7Dumbass, the clip was edited to remove Savage's actual rebuttal.
    • Logicexe, on 07/23/2008, -2/+5Good old fashioned red herrings.
  • Guitarsenal, on 07/23/2008, -17/+14Biggest. *****. Ever.
  • Newportbeachguy, on 07/23/2008, -19/+36He's got a point! Get the ***** over it. A lot of kids today are misdiagnosed. The big pharmaceuticals make sure they are. They need to sell drugs. It's their business to sell drugs.
    • byronm, on 07/23/2008, -9/+12Thats why social medicine is so much better. Take the profit out of making people sick and put the profit back in creating smart doctors who don't serve the industry but serve the people.
      • bluto36, on 07/23/2008, -3/+9ya cus social medicine takes the profit out whenever it has been tried.

        how about you take a look at the examples of social medicine we have in the world now.
    • DerpDerpMD, on 07/23/2008, -3/+1why exactly would big pharma wanna see kids misdiagnosed. if i was them i would rather have them correctly diagnosed so they get the right drugs. pharma isn't in the industry of hurting people. overdiagnosed is a whole other issue. but really only with ADD.
      • Sugaruss, on 07/23/2008, -1/+2You may be the most naive Digger in this thread.
    • Ladymongoose, on 07/23/2008, -0/+4Are you talking about ADD or autism? I agree Ritalin is over-prescribed, but honestly, I have never met a single autistic kid who was misdiagnosed or had parents encourage the diagnosis so they could get 'grant' money or money from the Gov. And I've met a LOT of autistic kids and their parents.

    • rock774, on 07/24/2008, -0/+1http://www.breggin.com/
  • FearFactory, on 07/23/2008, -7/+27I don't like his attack on autism but this country is overloaded with medication. There is a pill you can pop for anything and everything. There are pills to alleviate side effects of other pills for Christ's sake.
    • byronm, on 07/23/2008, -5/+7Yeah, once your on one med you need meds for all the side effects, you know. Itchy Anus, Compulsive Gambling, Sore Throat, Cotton Mouth, Bloody Stools, Stinging Piss so on and so forth
    • bacterio, on 07/23/2008, -0/+6Erm. Autism on the whole does not have a pharmacological treatment.

      There are medications for other illnesses like schizophrenia or depression. I think the reason people are against medications for mental disorders is because of the stigma of mental illnesses. Often people do not view mental illnesses/disorders as biological problems that require biological treatments. With diabetes or epilepsy for example, chronic conditions as well there is no controversy.
      • Sugaruss, on 07/23/2008, -1/+3That is exactly the point of Savage's remark: there is no scientific definition or diagnosis for autism, leading to gross misdiagnosis across the country.
    • Ladymongoose, on 07/23/2008, -0/+3Thank you bacterio. There is a lot of misinformation on this board about drugs for autism. The only one is called Risperdal and it is not prescribed very often.
  • damian7, on 07/23/2008, -23/+17*****

    MICHAEL

    SAVAGE
  • nedzeve, on 07/23/2008, -19/+14"Michael Savage should be taken out and shot." -- Nedzeve

    "Wait, you took my comment about Michale Savage out of context!" -- Nedzeve
  • Nairebis, on 07/23/2008, -14/+42I hate to actually defend this fool, but while he phrased his point unbelievably poorly and inflammatorily (if that's a word), there is actually a kernel of truth buried in there. Autism *is* getting misdiagnosed on kids that are simply outside the norm and need more time to develop. Autism is very difficult to diagnose in very young children, and the signs are very subjective. There is no chemical test -- it's all behavioral.

    So, yes, the messenger is an idiot, but don't reject the message. A kid getting misdiagnosed early as autistic can be devastating to their development. Same with the ADD insanity, where too many schools are diagnosing kids as ADD who simply don't fit in with the rote way school is taught.
    • knyghtryda, on 07/23/2008, -15/+10Well yes, there's always a kernel of truth in almost any message. The problem is that kernel is normally wrapped in spin, stupidity and lies, normally to the point were the original "truth" is completely lost. When you get guys like savage pulling numbers out of their ass in order to support a point, you know that kernel was long since crapped out.
    • Ladymongoose, on 07/23/2008, -2/+3Actually there are several biological issues that many autistics have in common: Candida (yeast overgrowth in the gut), certain bacteria found in autistic kids' GI tracts, serious digestive and reflux issues...it's not just a neurological issue. Nearly every autistic child I have know, met or talked to their parents have very similar digestive issues and food allergies.

      Also, where are you getting those stats on kids who are supposedly misdiagnosed? I have never met any that were either in my son's school or at the many meetings and play groups we attend that are wrongly diagnosed. I'm really curious how you know for a fact that there is such rampant misdiagnosis?
  • nomojunkscience, on 07/23/2008, -12/+19I think he has a point with kids being diagnosed with disorders that really stem from poor parenting. Obviously some kids really have disorders, however have you ever seen how bad some kids are when their parents don't discipline them? Anyways if you read the transcript and not 'Thinkprogressganda' you get the full story. Sorry to interfere with all the knee-jerking
    • MWeather, on 07/23/2008, -3/+6Link to the transcript, then! Why go through the trouble of reading it, then telling us we should too if you didn't link to it?

      At least you could have pointed out what he actually said.
    • bluto36, on 07/23/2008, -5/+2that's not their knee's
    • kayala, on 07/23/2008, -8/+3Are you familiar with autism? Autistic children can't just be slapped around a couple times and told to straighten up, and Savage's suggestion that children with this serious disability are faking it, or the product of bad parenting, is completely uncalled for and untrue. It's an insult to every family that's had a child with autism. Savage doesn't know what the hell he's talking about.
    • SleepyMcShuteye, on 07/24/2008, -2/+0I agree, nomo. I think a lot of parents are too lazy to spend time and try to understand their children, and instead look for a quick fix through medication when the children misbehave. That, and many are grossly misinformed when it comes to children and behavior. Kids are kids, they're supposed to be hyper, energetic, act goofy sometimes, and get in trouble periodically, that's how they learn.
  • socketman, on 07/23/2008, -24/+12Savage is my hero
    • MacBigot, on 07/23/2008, -3/+8Speaking as a conservative who DESPISES ThinkProgress.org, Savage is an embarrassment.
      • Munkoh, on 07/23/2008, -4/+2Thats because you are speaking as a conservative.
      • socketman, on 07/23/2008, -0/+1This is true. But we've got to have one bill maher/al franken/keith olberman kind of guy on our side to make outrageous comments that make liberal's heads explode.

        Maybe it is just the culture today - but I find some amount of trolling/griefing kind of entertaining to watch..
      • MacBigot, on 07/24/2008, -0/+1Ann Coulter is already doing a fine job filling the "outrageous right-winger" role without crossing into "nutjob" territory with the same frequency of Michael Savage.

        I'm more "entertained" by Dick Morris. Yes, the man is an absolute snake…but now he's our snake.
    • zhulik83, on 07/23/2008, -9/+4And my... If i was getting an "anti-cholesterol drugs." since i was two instead of some good ol ass whooping, i would have autism too. and add. and would be in jail right now for sure.
  • CobaltBlue, on 07/23/2008, -11/+17Michael Savage is so far gone I don't think you can even call him right wing. He's just freaking insane.
  • wildone71, on 07/23/2008, -19/+4Autism, ADHD, dyslexia ... Back in my day, they were just called dumb. Savage for President!
    • Munkoh, on 07/23/2008, -6/+3Love it!
    • kayala, on 07/23/2008, -1/+4I hope you never have an autistic child, because you'd probably do nothing to help the situation and resort to beating the poor child senseless. I wish you and your ilk would educate yourselves before running your mouths.
      • TheToad1, on 07/23/2008, -3/+1
        Beating the poor child senseless? No one is saying that, they are say a little consistent discipline would do a lot for today's kids. Ever wonder why cases of ADD, ADHD, and Autism are going thru the roof? Maybe you should educate yourself. It's this generation who can't take responsibility for anything, let alone the bad behavior of their children. Must be a disease. Just give 'em a pill.
      • kayala, on 07/23/2008, -0/+2Christ, could it be that an improvement in diagnostic medicine helps us catch more cases of these disorders? The ***** rate of cancer diagnoses skyrockets every time a new type of cancer is discovered. Doesn't mean that those sufferers just need a good slapping around! Lumping in autism with ADD and ADHD is not a very good tactic. ADD and ADHD are indeed a lot harder to diagnose and are quite often taken as personality quirks, but you need only see one truly autistic child to know that it's not just a product of bad parenting, lack of discipline, what have you. Look it up and learn a little before you run your big mouth.
  • mlrigsby, on 07/23/2008, -7/+21I love it when these guys just make things up.

    “99 percent of the cases, it’s a brat who hasn’t been told to cut the act out.”

    99 percent huh? Really? Why not just say "most", or "almost all"? Why try to make a "fact" you just pulled out of your ass sound scientific by attaching a random, made-up statistic?
    • rexcom, on 07/23/2008, -6/+1I think if you were trying to say that pretty much all people in a group are "something" but want to leave room for every rooms exception, 99% sounds like a good representation of what I'm thinking if I'm on a live broadcast and have to express myself quickly.

      Just a thought. Man, you people go and start way over analyzing things.
    • Ukonu, on 07/23/2008, -0/+1Do you think everyone who's ever said something along the lines of "I'll give 100%" was trying to sound scientific?

      I dislike right-wing pundits as much as the next digger, but it wasn't as if he was pretending to quote this 99% statistic from a scientific study. He was making an impromptu statement during his informal radio show. He was making a valid point about over diagnosis and, stupidly, forgot not to stray into hyperbole on sensitive subjects in public forums. It was mainly a dumb statement when you consider how quickly the media can sound bite you and destroy the whole context of your message. And it was dumb, when you consider how many ignorant listeners he probably has that will literally believe every word of the statement and not take autism seriously. But lets please not pretend he was trying to pull one over on the general population by using a percentage.
  • Hoogs, on 07/23/2008, -24/+12I love listening to Michael Savage. While I don't necessarily agree with everything he says, I do like his "tell it like it is" attitude. Definitely the most entertaining radio host out there.
    • kayala, on 07/23/2008, -3/+4Except that he tells it like it isn't. 99 percent of autistic kids to NOT need nothing more than to be slapped around and told to straighten up. It's sickening for him to trivialize a disability that afflicts so many children.
  • Munkoh, on 07/23/2008, -25/+18SAVAGE FOR PRESIDENT. You guys think this will hurt Savage? Hes been fighting you left wing nut jobs for ever especially now more than ever. I love how free speech runs one way, thats the left way. Don't even look at his ratings you'll beg for more liberal media air time then realize NO ONE LISTENS TO LIBERAL RADIO...

    Someone called him a McCain supporter? Bless your little retarded liberal hearts and minds.
    • omegared, on 07/23/2008, -4/+7what the ***** are you talking about. The left let him say what he wanted, they disagreed with what he said and pointed it out. What is wrong with that, is that not allowed? or should the left wing be censored so you don't get upset?
      Agreed savage for president, lets see how many votes the idiot gets.
      • Munkoh, on 07/23/2008, -6/+5If you read what people have said it would make sense. You know the stuff about canceling him and what not. But its OK. No one said anything about left wing censored, I censor them myself by not listening to the bull *****. Something you guys should think about.
      • omegared, on 07/23/2008, -1/+3i didn't realize the left could get people canceled. or is that just public opinion? you make no sense you believe in free speech yet you do not want the left wing opinions to be listened to. is that free speech if only one opinion is heard.
        sorry to tell you this, but maybe there are a significant amount of Americans that have "left wing" opinions.
      • Munkoh, on 07/23/2008, -3/+1Again you fail to understand the point. The point IS the left wants shows canceled all the time and they equal amount of air time to go along with that.

        ALSO I never said anything about not letting people listen to the BS the leftist say. ALL I said is I don't listen to them. And neither does the majority of radio listeners. THATS THE FACT, ask Air America how they are doing these days.
      • edjenkins234, on 07/23/2008, -1/+3That could be because people on the left have realized what a dead format radio has become?
      • omegared, on 07/23/2008, -1/+1"ALSO I never said anything about not letting people listen to the BS the leftist say. ALL I said is I don't listen to them."
        how is that different? so people shouldn't listen to them? sounds like the right wing always talks about getting rid of hollywood, moveon, dailykos, and any other org they don't agree with. Hell i think bill o'reilly compared moveon to the nazia's. how is that any different?
      • Munkoh, on 07/23/2008, -1/+0If the radio is such a dead format how come the left begs for equal radio times for them? How come they constantly try to cancel shows? Thats OK I don't expect you to reply to this because you have already answered this question with such a moronic post as "That could be because people on the left have realized what a dead format radio has become?" Good game thanks for trying, maybe you need to research.

        AND
        ""ALSO I never said anything about not letting people listen to the BS the leftist say. ALL I said is I don't listen to them."
        how is that different? so people shouldn't listen to them? sounds like the right wing always talks about getting rid of hollywood, moveon, dailykos, and any other org they don't agree with. Hell i think bill o'reilly compared moveon to the nazia's. how is that any different?"

        No one that I know of ("right wing") talks about getting rid of anything. They may talk about how stupid they are and how hypocritical they are (see Jesse Jackson, on the "N word.)" Now back to the SUBJECT which you seem to have forgot. I DONT PAY ATTENTION TO LEFTIST. That has nothing to do with anyone else, what other people do or say only what I DO. Now maybe you will understand the main objective of this post.

        For the record, I don't think people should listen to the left, its full of bull ***** lies. NOW you can attack me.
  • Seann7656, on 07/23/2008, -10/+5Ah, the Jeremiah Wright defense...
  • Onion575, on 07/23/2008, -11/+23Chill out guys. The guy has to talk for 3 hours every day into a microphone. People say things that they don't necessarily mean (like the 99% statistic), and I do agree with the point he was making, that doctors overdiagnose kids. Drugs = money.
    • TurnipFarm, on 07/23/2008, -6/+1Why are you defending this guy?
      • Onion575, on 07/23/2008, -1/+6Why are you offended by me defending this guy?
    • DerpDerpMD, on 07/23/2008, -3/+0yea, but doctors don't see any of that money, so why would they misdiagnose?
    • wishninja, on 07/23/2008, -1/+1doctors err on the side of caution because the early intervention very effective and can also help kids that just have a low IQ. If I was going to talk on the radio at least he should know what he is talking about or he should be prepared to be flammed.
    • Ladymongoose, on 07/23/2008, -1/+2What drugs for autism? People seem to be equating Ritalin and other ADD drugs with autism. There is ONE approved drug for autism, folks. It's called Risperdal. It is used sparingly and is simply not over-prescribed for autism the way Ritalin is/was. Autism and ADD/ADHD are NOT AUTISM. Of the dozens of autistic kids I know, not a sinlge one is on this drug.
  • Bluegrassen, on 07/23/2008, -15/+10USA the great nation of the offended. Come on people if you don’t like what Dr Savage has to say then don’t listen to him. I personally enjoy his in your face commentary.
    • source1984, on 07/23/2008, -3/+6no no, you're not getting away with that. It's Dr. WEINER, not savage. Dr. Michael Weiner.
      • hcl40u, on 07/23/2008, -0/+4Oh I see why he calls himself Savage instead of Weiner now. Weiner Nation just doesn't work too well for him.
    • wishninja, on 07/23/2008, -0/+1he is a product of monopoly so there really isn't much freedom in local markets. He gets his support from the red south and we a forced to have him on three different channels whether anyone listens or not in this area. ***** FCC *****!
  • Seann7656, on 07/23/2008, -9/+13He's actually a liberal working undercover to undermine the right
  • Swift2, on 07/23/2008, -5/+10It's appalling that this idiot ever got near a microphone. I'm not going to ask for his firing,, but I'd be a lot happier with the American people if they didn't listen to this poisonous a**hole. Hey, Savage fans: you're in love with a psychopathic nutjob, this Michael Weiner guy. If you like him, hey, I got some jackboots to sell you. I'm sure you'll like them.
  • brickbat, on 07/23/2008, -7/+14Michael Weiner Savage is the best proof that you can be successful even with extensive brain damage.
  • stinkymonkey, on 07/23/2008, -10/+12People,

    It's obvious we're all just to stupid to understand clear direct statements.

    For example, when I say "The ball is round", I hope none of you think that's what I really mean, because anyone with half a brain can clearly understand, I meant the ball is actually a chicken, and chickens are not round.
    • stix213, on 07/23/2008, -6/+4The clip was taken out of context moron. This is the equivalent of you describing a ball like object as "The ball is elongated and strangely has a square end to it, although at the center the ball is round" then cutting the clip at the end to what you stated "The ball is round."

      And then the moron, who wouldn't be bothered to check up on what Media Matters cut the clip from, assumes that "The ball is round" is your entire description of the object. Just like you the moron and all the other morons here are doing to savage's quote.
    • stinkymonkey, on 07/23/2008, -1/+2stix213,

      LOL.

      Ok, in your infinite wisdom, please explain what Savage is talking about.

      I bet you don't have an answer.



  • nomojunkscience, on 07/23/2008, -1/+6Interesting article regarding this: http://www.bookwormroom.com/2008/07/21/autism-diag ...
  • isiz, on 07/23/2008, -20/+6I ***** hate Digg, bye forever.
    • amoirae, on 07/23/2008, -3/+13Bye! We won't miss you! Don't come back now, y'hear?
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