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- cannibaljp, on 08/30/2008, -52/+344I know, I know - it's very tinfoil hat and crazy conspiracy, but can you honestly say that it's impossible, considering the points raised in the article?
- JoeMondo, on 08/30/2008, -83/+325Nothing is too far fetched to believe about the religious right extremists. They are dedicated to some fantasy of the 1950's, and are always happy to lie about things like pregnancy to preserve the illusion.
They knowingly lie about evolution, about abstinence education, about converting gay people and anything else.
The fact they they are so willing to lie ought to tell them they're on the wrong side. - barackoblogger, on 08/31/2008, -19/+174The most damning evidence is the fact that she did not go directly to a hospital once her water broke. Any woman who's had a baby (which I am one) is ALWAYS told by the doctor that if your water breaks, you should get IMMEDIATELY to the hospital.
Having your water break increases the risk of infection for the baby, and they typically would induce labor if you don't go naturally into labor.
You're telling me that a woman whose water broke then took an 8-hr, plane ride to Alaska, did not inform the airline that she was pregnant, and THEN did not get herself to the NEAREST clinic, but instead to a remote clinic?
Plus, she had a daughter who was out of school for 5 to 8 months?
This is typical, 1950s-style morality.
Let Bristol be the mother of her own child and not live in secrecy and shame. - ZebZ, on 08/30/2008, -19/+160Family photos have gone missing from her official Governor webpage, as well.
- alan7388, on 08/31/2008, -24/+157I'd say this story is nobody's business and the Palins should have their privacy respected, but several things do make this one a legitimate public matter:
1) One of Palin's great claims to character among the Republican anti-abortion base in the last few days is that she bore a baby even after the fetus tested for Down syndrome. If she is lying, she is lying about a significant part of her political claim to fame.
2) She is already suspected of lying about firing the state Safety Commissioner in "troopergate." A pattern of lies would be an indicator of character.
3) Most of all, as an anti-abortion executive, she would make the private lives and pregnancy decisions of every other woman in America a public matter potentially enforcable with poilice and jails. This obviates any claim to her own pregnancy decisions being accorded any privacy respect. "If you can't take it, don't dish it out."
4) Palin is not just anti-abortion, she is anti-birth-control, and an opponent of sex education for teens other than abstinence-only. So her 15- or 16-year-old accidently becoming pregnant is very relevant, since she wants to keep the knowledge and devices to prevent pregnancy out of the hands of every *other* teenage girl in America.
Apparently she and her family chose the traditional Catholic/Evangelical way: take the girl out of school for months claiming she has mono, have the baby in secret, and make up lies to cover it up.
Not everyone wants to (or can afford) to take this route. In particular, maybe Bristol would have preferred to have her child openly and without fear or shame. Maybe others want to make their decisions without terror of the law and the state persecution the religions conservatives would apply. - jeffness, on 08/30/2008, -27/+156I am a total skeptic about such claims, but the evidence is very convincing.
Everything is lined up to point towards a family cover up. Amazing. - duckley, on 08/31/2008, -3/+125She was in Texas when her "water broke". So, did she go to a local hospital?
NO. She got on an AIRPLANE ! And flew to Seattle while in labor.
In Seattle, she got on ANOTHER airplane while still in labor and flew to Alaska to have "her" baby.
Right. - dn11, on 08/30/2008, -15/+130yeah... who knows but a poster on daily kos said it best anyway:
"Do Obama-Biden a favor....don't post here or anywhere that is remotely associated with progressive political causes or their campaign.
If it's something you think is important and worth further investigation, by all means, send to the National Enquirer, Drudge, TMZ.com, SmokingGun.com, anywhere else but here.
Believe me, if there is any truth to this -- publications and sites like those will be all over it.
But not here. Not now. Not ever.
By the way, how many voters have you registered today? This week? This month?
Focus, people. That goes for me too. Palin is a bright shiny object. Ignore it. These are serious times that require seriousness from all of us. We have 60-days to make history and beat the longest of long odds. Don't blow it. Palin's a trap -- don't fall for it. Let the media do with her what they will. We have an election to win, not a human interest story to produce for People Magazine". - Samiyam, on 08/31/2008, -7/+97Her water breaks, she makes a keynote speech, then flies 8 hours to Alaska, and she's carrying a baby with Down's Syndrome. This either shows poor decision-making skills, or she had a desperate need to be back in Alaska for some reason. I'm just saying...
- duckley, on 08/31/2008, -7/+92Palin's daughter Bristol was OUT OF SCHOOL FOR FIVE MONTHS during the last trimester !
- Seaton, on 08/30/2008, -26/+104Interesting Tidbits:
1. Bristol Palin left school for an extended period of time, due to mononucleosis according to her family for the last 4-5 months of Trig's pregnancy. Some classmates claimed later that they had seen Bristol Palin pregnant.
2. Sarah Palin did not reveal to anyone outside her family that she was pregnant until 8 months into her pregnancy. Even then, she showed no signs of pregnancy. Alaskan news outlets commented on this, but did not go further. There are pictures of her at Super Tuesday (just a month before the baby was born).
http://www.adn.com/politics/story/339576.html
She is notably a very trim woman, so it would likely be difficult to hide a pregnancy.
3. There are photos showing Bristol Palin having gained weight, possibly significantly so in the abdomen.
4. Sarah Palin went into labor in Dallas just before she was due to deliver a keynote address at the Republican Governors' Energy Conference, and flew to Seattle, then Alaska while still in labor.
http://www.newsminer.com/news/2008/apr/22/palins-f ...
Supposedly, she was in labor during the 8 hour flight, and the crew and attendants did not know.
"Governor Palin was extremely pleasant to flight attendants and her
stage of pregnancy was not apparent by observation as she didn't show
any signs of distress."
This is extremely risky behavior, and you are advised by doctors, traditionally, not to fly once you are past 7 months pregnant. If airlines are made aware, sometimes they will prevent you from flying. Sarah Palin did not inform the flight.
5. Sarah has had four children before, and a prolonged labor that lasted a flight from Dallas to Alaska is extremely unlikely, as labor times usually decrease with the number of births.
6. There is also some rumor of an interview with a co-worker of Todd Palin at the oil fields in Prudhoe Bay (North Slope, where Todd Palin worked for BP), though I haven't been able to verify this. The co-worker claims Todd told him of the situation, supposedly.
7. Likewise, there were at the time a few classmates of Bristol's that claimed they had seen her pregnant.
8. Sarah Palin appeared 4 months before the baby's birth in Vogue magazine, and was "trim and lithe." - inactive, on 08/30/2008, -21/+95Sarah's actions, and pictures during the pregnancy definitely add fuel to this fire.
- shadowman99, on 08/30/2008, -19/+75Here's a photo of Palin on Super Tuesday. She looks pretty trim for a woman who's six months pregnant:
http://themoderatevoice.com/politics/sarah-palin/2 ... - ftblstr2319, on 08/30/2008, -41/+97Guys, lets give it up. Here is a pic after the pregnacy. She does indeed look like she's given birth. Given the large amount of fat on her body..
http://fr.news.yahoo.com/ap/20080830/img/pot-veeps ...
The daughter in the background does NOT look like she's had a little one herself. - OrangeCrush, on 08/30/2008, -10/+64A bit of research and fact-checking ought to confirm or debunk these claims. Was Bristol really out of school for months with mono? Any photos of her with verifiable time/date stamps, etc?
- heartsblood, on 08/31/2008, -6/+57A person who's entire career depends on her anti-abortion and abstinence only values?
- inactive, on 08/30/2008, -25/+74This has it all:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/30/121350/137 - chonguey, on 08/31/2008, -5/+53And here is a photo of what Sarah Palin looks like when she is actually certifiably pregnant. The clothes, hair, and late 80's photographic "look" etc all point to this being one of her first pregnancies and not the latest one.
http://www.daylife.com/photo/0aFc47u3szeI6/Sarah_P ...
The difference between that and her "pregnancy" earlier this year is night and day.
I smell a rat. - inactive, on 08/31/2008, -2/+48I gotta admit - I seriously doubt the rumors are true, but that's just bizarre. Honestly, I heard about that before I had even heard about the conspiracy theory, and my first reaction was "That's just seriously ***** up. Who does that!?"
- inactive, on 08/31/2008, -4/+48I don't see what that comment has to do with Obama - you must be really deranged if you think it does. I'm just observing that that is really ***** bizarre behavior. It has nothing to do with who she is, or what side she's on. If I just read a story about a random woman who did that, I'd be like "Man, that's just really ***** bizarre."
- Seaton, on 08/31/2008, -10/+53In my eyes, the only socially acceptable way to be the mother of your daughter's child is through legal adoption. A young mother conceiving a child is not deceitful, covering the act up with lies...is.
If Governor Palin is to be taken seriously as a VP contender, she needs to squash this quickly. - shadowman99, on 08/30/2008, -6/+48She's walking down the street in heeled boots?
Edit: No, don't go there on the down's syndrome. Plenty on people are born with downs that are simply victims of chance. - Syphon0928, on 08/31/2008, -2/+42uqdroma: I think duckley meant to say that Bristol was out for 5 months, including the months during the last trimester. It doesn't sound like duckley was saying there are more than 3 months in a trimester.
- JigoroKano, on 08/30/2008, -11/+49I'd like to believe you, but that picture is so small that I can't see *****.
- vbullinger, on 08/30/2008, -6/+43Look at this picture: http://www.adn.com/politics/v-gallery/story/339576 ...
That was on Super Tuesday. One month before the baby was born.
Eight months pregnant?
No. She wasn't pregnant at all.
Kudos to her for helping take care of the baby - that's the right thing to do - but shame on her for lying about it. I'm not a fan of abortion, either, so it's a good thing to have done this and all, but just don't lie about it.
Also, her daughter missed 4-5 months of school because of mono? Yeah, right... - lopla, on 08/30/2008, -11/+44You won't see the MSM picking up on this..
- beloitpiper, on 08/31/2008, -0/+34Here's the Mat-Su baby calendar for the day Trig was born. He's not on there.
http://www.matsuregional.com/nursery/show_day.php? ... - heartsblood, on 08/31/2008, -13/+46I'm kinda torn about this. In a way I want this to be to be true so there is more ammunition against the anti-abortion/abstinence only nuts. But at the same time I really hope it's not true because if it really is bristols son, she is gonna be marked for life. I really don't care how old you are, financial responsibility aside, a mother should never be ashamed to enjoy her child's company. If it turns out to be bristols, she'll never be able to do that due to the lengths her mother went through to cover it up.
- exscape, on 08/31/2008, -3/+35I'm indeed really scared of this woman - she's so incredibly unsuited to be next-in-line for US president that it's simply proposterous. OTOH I'm not an "Obama bot" (not even an Obama fan).
- bjornski, on 08/31/2008, -1/+30And a month premature, too.
Normally, that's a signal to "get your ass to the doctor, NOW!" not "you've got plenty of time to fly home to your private doctor".
Mother-of-the-year decision if true. - inactive, on 08/31/2008, -5/+33Good job. That photo was circa 2006. Must have been one heck of a long delivery.
- duckley, on 08/31/2008, -12/+40Palin's "water broke" while she was in Texas, so, did she go to a hospital?
NO. She IMMEDIATELY FLEW BACK TO ALASKA to have "her" baby.
RIGHT. - ambivular, on 08/30/2008, -6/+34link to sources, please
I don't care if it's true or not, because if it isn't true, then she still flew 9 hours while in labor which is pretty much criminally negligent. A four time mother should know that.
Also, there are a few other articles about it, if you google for Bristol Palin pregnancy or pregnant or something. I found the iReport by searching for that stuff on CNN - brian223, on 08/30/2008, -17/+45This looks like an early glimpse into the next national headline. "Palin Lies To Country During Acceptance Speech"
- Mejari, on 08/31/2008, -7/+34Actually, the daughter that is the subject of this theory is the one farthest back in the black, who is obscured by leaves, not the one directly next to Sarah Palin. And from what I can tell (like someone else said, the photo is so freakin small) it is not obvious at all that she hasn't just had a baby. I'm not saying this as an argument /for/ this theory, but I don't think that picture should be used as an argument /against/ the theory either. What we need is some proof one way or the other, I haven't seen any. It's sad that the Republican party has sunk so low in the past that I cant just dismiss this idea out of hand like I normally would.
- completerobot, on 08/30/2008, -7/+34It'd be a lot easier to take you seriously if you provided some evidence.
- cannibaljp, on 08/30/2008, -4/+31has it been debunked? i really haven't seen anything on it (either way)other than this iReport post...
And, yes, I know that that doesn't bode well for the authenticity of the information, btw...
but if it has been debunked, i'd like to see it! - rootsm3, on 08/31/2008, -19/+44True or not it doesn't take away from the fact that she is a horrible choice for VP.
McCAIN IS NOT ABLE - PaulTos1, on 08/30/2008, -10/+33Excuse me, I'm Paul Tosone, the writer of that iReport article. I'm not a liberal, or a smear artist or anything.
I don't contribute to "Crimes and Corruptions of the New World Order News" or to "yourfreepress" blogspot, or the Progressive Alaskin. These places have used my report without my permission,
I'm not a worker for Obama or the DNC or anything. I'm just a person who used Google after I noticed the story about her not announcing her pregnancy until almost 8 months. Everything I found, I was able to find from google and searching around the Anchorage Daily News and Juneau Empire newspapers. I didn't intend to smear Sarah Palin, I felt I presented a fairly balanced view in the article, including the part where I included reasons why the story is probably not true. However, I do feel if she is campaigning using family values, abstinence, and against birth control or abortion, she should be subject to some scrutiny. - barackoblogger, on 08/31/2008, -8/+32so she supposedly knew that the baby had Down's syndrome before giving birth (which would make it higher risk), but did not go to the hospital once her water broke?
- inactive, on 08/31/2008, -5/+28What fact? It makes it less likely that it's her daughter's, but it doesn't rule out the possibility, numb nuts. You're more likely to be struck by lightning than to win the lottery, but that doesn't mean nobody wins the lottery.
- organik, on 08/31/2008, -9/+32Enough with labeling everything "tin foil hat crazy conspiracy" that you personally don't think could be true. There are far too many people in this country unwilling to ask questions.
- bjornski, on 08/31/2008, -2/+25A sweatshirt, baggy shorts and a large bag....
That PROVES she was pregnant! - joshuasawyer, on 08/30/2008, -12/+35pro-life/anti-birth control, That has never made sense to me how can a person be anti pro life, but anti birth control.
- Seaton, on 08/31/2008, -1/+24BOTH omg.
- ichbeineinrcg, on 08/31/2008, -3/+25Jace, Ms. mother of 5: would you get on an 8 hour plane ride after your water broke 6 weeks prematurely?
I really want to know. Really. - Ravatar, on 08/31/2008, -5/+27Your 16-year old daughter becoming pregnant out of wedlock isn't really good for the evangelical base? I'm not saying it's true, but I also can't instantly discount it given some really odd circumstances.. taking your daught out of school for 5 months for mono?
- thegrantman, on 08/31/2008, -18/+39Taking care of a young child,especially one with Down's syndrome,is a full time job.There is no way she can fill the duties of a VP while properly taking care of her kids.Handing them to a nanny isn't what I consider family values.
- Seaton, on 08/31/2008, -3/+24Mainstream Media won't touch this with a 10 foot teleprompter...
- alothrop, on 08/30/2008, -5/+26who cares? are you serious? at the very least it was bad decision making to fly while in labor for 8 hours. what if she couldnt stop it from coming and there was a complication? if true it's a coverup that involved lying to a number of people for months on end, something i think a lot of people would care about.
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