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- slogans7, on 05/30/2008, -9/+37And he's supposed to be the expert on Iraq?
- SheilaNoya, on 05/31/2008, -11/+28Dear Mr. McCain,
Please keep talking. Please keep showing everyone how utterly clueless you are about Iraq and fighting terrorism.
Thanks,
An Obama Supporter - thodgson, on 05/31/2008, -6/+21He's the expert on the economy...no wait! That's not it either.
- DD2CC2U, on 05/30/2008, -9/+24McCain is getting pretty old. A person's mind starts to go in their old age.
- mamajama52, on 05/31/2008, -12/+25Hitler did this first. 1. Tell a lie. A really big lie. 2. Keep on telling it. (This works best if the news media are either bought or easily intimidated). As for the general public, most of them won't really believe that anyone in such an influential position can lie about such an important matter. Hitler's chief propagandist, Joseph Goebbels, figured this out.Google "Goebbels big lie" if you want the exact quote.
3. Then get really irate at anyone who questions your lie. 4. Call them unpatriotic and cowardly.
5. Keep on doing that until power is completely consolidated.
Karl Rove, whatever else one says about him, knows his history, and George W. Bush is also a master of the "Big Lie".
It looks as though John McCain is following in his master's footsteps. - typographics, on 05/31/2008, -0/+13snipergate wasn't a minor gaffe, it was a totally fabricated lie. she didn't switch someones name, or simply phrase a sentence wrong. she lied. how do you not see the difference?
- publiclurker, on 05/31/2008, -2/+11He always wears a lapel pin.
- tcbishop12, on 05/31/2008, -0/+7Fortunately for all of us, a lie does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become irrelevant because nobody sees it. The truth is by nature self-evident. As soon as you remove the cobwebs of ignorance and deliberate deceit that surround it, it shines clear.
- Pillage, on 05/31/2008, -1/+7The war is lost ya know.
- typographics, on 05/31/2008, -1/+7you say that like it is a bad thing...
- Jexie, on 05/31/2008, -0/+5Its Godwin for Christs sake....and do us all a favour and explain why calling out 'Godwin' means anything? Its just a pointless meme, a joke and nothing more.
- Dndlion, on 05/30/2008, -9/+14Pitiful.
- V3n0M, on 05/31/2008, -7/+12Graduating 6th from last in his class and being shot down 5 times makes one a hero? I'm confused.
Maybe all the information he gave the Vietnamese makes him a hero? Or is it all the torture he suffered then voted for (or at the very least "not against")? Please... enlighten me... what makes John McCain such a hero in your eyes? - inactive, on 05/31/2008, -3/+8Like the U.S. never had Guam, Midway, Wake, Somoa, and many other territories as federal states... your bash on Obama didn't work.
- FTWmovin2canada, on 05/31/2008, -1/+6You know the Republicans are in trouble when Obama is beating McCain on the National Security argument.
- PhilLesh69, on 05/31/2008, -0/+5Which would be worse? Creating the situation with appropriate troop levels, properly armed and supplied, and sending them into battle, or just simply hoping that reporting to the American people that the brave and loyal troops are fighting the insurgents, when the people making those statements know they are not properly equipped, and are not fully supported by their higher commands and their unit commanders who are told to continue to direct other units, even rapid response units to defend empty haliburton convoys. I mean, truly empty convoys who are billing the defense department for that convoy on a cost plus contract, meaning soldiers who are defending empty trucks, at the exepense of active dutry soldiers, are defending defense contractor convoys that are only meant to increase profits for a civilian company, like Dyncorp, or Halliburton or KBR, or Northrup Grumman, or who knows.
Do you know what "Cost Plus" means? They bill the government for their expenses, plus the GSA alloted profit. So they are motivated to increase their costs, in order to make more profit.
If it might be efficient to deliver 300,000 gallons of feul to a forward operating base, it is more efficient to have 300,000 gallons get blown up, and deliver another 300,000 gallons to that base, and charge the government for both deliveries, and both trucks, and both amounts of fuel. It is cost plus, after all. You only make a small percentage of profit on what the government spends. So you need to make sure the government spends a whole lot in order to increase your profits.
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=eisenhower+w ... - jman8888, on 05/31/2008, -1/+6Thank you. Please vote purely on issues, not party or crap like this.
Im a republican who would vote for Obama just because even though i dont agree on foreign policy(Think just dropping war is a bad idea) And Abortion. I would vote obama because 95% agreement ratio. - TheSwashbuckler, on 05/31/2008, -2/+6If McCain made a minor gaff here and there it would be one thing, but he's making lots of gaffs on the subject that he claims to be the expert on.
Experts don't make lots of gaffs on a subject that they're truly expert on. - kemp34, on 05/31/2008, -1/+5That's very key right there.
/s - jessehadden, on 05/31/2008, -0/+4Good. It's good to give up when you're wrong. and especially when you're killing and maiming people en masse in some desperate attempt to avoid admitting being wrong. Giving up is the sensible thing to do. Being the world's hypocritical, unapologetic bully is most certainly something to give up.
- inactive, on 05/31/2008, -0/+3The average citizen realizes we are at war, and that you as a soldier and many others are not in the right place. Over a trillion dollars has been spent on the war, but Bush could care less to spend some of it on domestic help. If the gov had that much money to spend, why they held back? Why they let people hit the streets here while jobs get shipped out of the country. It is not like someone can always follow those jobs, especially if you owe child support you are not allowed to leave the states. Open your eyes
- bsmang, on 05/31/2008, -0/+3Yeah, the Bush administration had a few people fooled. Some other people besides just him were wrong. Big deal. I wasn't one of them. Apparently you still are. What do you want, a cookie?
- hmunkey, on 05/31/2008, -0/+3The link is to a stupid rick roll that hijacks your browser.
- scrumdiddly, on 05/31/2008, -0/+3Hitler did it, but I doubt he was first.
- PhilLesh69, on 05/31/2008, -0/+3As someone in the neocon cabal said, "Be audacious, the greater the lie, the harder it is for the people to see it as a lie"
- inactive, on 05/31/2008, -1/+3They won't even be at pre-surge levels in a few months. McCain's statement wasn't an accident. It was a complete lie:
http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Barack_Obama_on_ ... - jman8888, on 05/31/2008, -7/+9my god i cant take the huff post seriously. its so anti-not-obama and probama. Pease not be huffpost
- hittnrun, on 05/31/2008, -1/+3Uhhh, Nobody with a fvcking brain whould EVER say there were 57 United States unless they were so clueless that they never paid attention to the number of stars on the US flag. Guess that's why Osama is scared of the "flag pin". errr, Obama... sorry. lol
- hittnrun, on 05/31/2008, -0/+2How do you feel about someone who doesn't know how many states are in the United States?? Can you believe the smartest mother fvcker in the United States claims there are 57 states?
- lderks, on 06/01/2008, -0/+2For me it would be a non-issue, if he could admit he made a mistake.
If he can't, this incident confirms us again McCain is on the same exact path as Bush. - boombye, on 05/31/2008, -0/+2I rather a constitutional lawyer than some dude who can't even tell the difference between the two warring factions in Iraq.
- Pillage, on 05/31/2008, -3/+5How dare you speak ill of the MESSIAH!!!!!11010
- boombye, on 05/31/2008, -0/+2So you only have two options? Telling people that troop levels being at pre-surge levels in a few month, is a lie. Secondly, the other option you have laid out is speculation based on your opinion. How would we abandon a people who want us out of their neighborhood? We did something they seemed to like, which was remove Saddam, but since then we've been more like an obsessed boyfriend or girlfriend who can't let go and move on, and keeps trying to the point where they basically drive the other person away. Right now they want us to let them be and go away, because we've been more of a problem than a big help. I mean we did do a good job removing the regime that was in charge there, but occupying has been a disaster. It's like China taking over America and expecting everyone to happily accept their rule over us, do you really think people are going to take that?
- absurdist, on 05/31/2008, -1/+3Ah, something like how the Swift Boat Vets for Truth smeared Kerry, a war hero? Except that in his case, the smears were all lies, while in McCain's case, the "smears" are what's on the record?
And yeah, he can get things done. Charles Keating can testify to that. Wait, if I'm not mistaken, he DID testify to that. - Stereotype77, on 05/31/2008, -0/+2Was Obama fooled? Where's his quote?
- cyberprunes, on 05/31/2008, -0/+2The surge did not work. The surge was supposed to give the Iraqi government time to get its act together while the US forces provided a more secure environment. That did not happen.
- Pillage, on 05/31/2008, -0/+2they do, they report on Olbermann when Olbermann gets his stories from them.
- inactive, on 05/31/2008, -0/+2Obviously not:
http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Barack_Obama_on_ ... - boombye, on 05/31/2008, -1/+3I doubt the kind of people who support Bush have a grasp on anything that isn't Nascar and Wal-Mart, let alone, I doubt they have any knowledge of any other cultures, but you don't have to be an expert about other cultures to know, that the Iraqis just don't like a bunch of rich white country club types who don't even interact with normal everyday people, to make decisions for them. So let them make decisions for themselves and let us leave them alone and stop giving them reasons to hate us more everyday.
Think of what we do to Iraq in terms of how obsessive people treat their significant other, they smother them to the point that the significant other doesn't want anything to do with the obsessive type, and the obsessive type just keeps on trying but only makes things worse because they don't know how to let go and move on. It's not like a Rob Schneider or David Spade movie, you can't just annoy people into liking you, that may work in stupid comedies, which we've gotten too much of, but you can't expect the same thing to work out in foreign policy, only morons who think life is like the movies think like that, especially people who don't associate with the normal everyday average joe because they're too rich to be seen in public with people like that. We need leaders that actually deal with normal everyday people, not leaders who hang out with Corporate executives or are Corporate themselves, like these Neo-Cons. - SheilaNoya, on 05/31/2008, -2/+4If we went in to "free" the Iraqis, then why are we still occupying their country with our military?
Maybe you missed the tens of thousands of Iraqis who were protesting in the streets May 30th. They want us OUT of Iraq and they don't want the U.S./Iraq security agreement to pass which will keep us in their country for an "indefinite period".
The vast majority of Iraqis want us to LEAVE and take our corrupt contractors and war profiteers with us when we go. - PhilLesh69, on 05/31/2008, -2/+4We're not sure anymore.
I think he was a pow. His mom is 92 years old. He was tortured. There is some reason that makes him qualified to lead the war party. I'm just not sure what it really is. But I know it exists.
Oh wait!, He was a good candidate in 2000 as a counter to Bush. Now he is only a good candidate as the continuation of Bush.
McCain is Bush 2.0.
That is definitely what we want. Bush 2.0! - cyberprunes, on 05/31/2008, -0/+2Your "real thought" does not address the argument. It only redirects it to another subject about the failure of the Democratic party. That's an issue that deserves debate but how about responding to the issue at hand.
- Noureddin, on 05/31/2008, -1/+3Agreed. Superkendall... you fail.
- zhaojon, on 05/31/2008, -0/+1Randy Scheunemann is an idiot. Instead of just admitting that McCain made a mistake and he was incorrect, he says "We are having this call about a verb tense and if you choose to write a story about Sen. McCain's use of a verb tense you need to hold Senator Obama to that exact same standard." and "If you're going to start fact-checking verb tenses, we're going to make sure we start monitoring verb tenses a lot more closely than we have in this campaign."
What a cry baby! Turning the question around as an attack on Obama! Grow up. - boombye, on 06/02/2008, -0/+1Hey we can probably go over like a half hour worth of Bush saying stupid ***** and laugh our asses off the whole time or be disgusted about it, either way, not a big deal. Maybe he was going to say "FITTY CEN---ERR-FITTY-SEVEN STATES! YAH FITTY 7"
- hittnrun, on 05/31/2008, -0/+1Its happening now. Do you losers think the United States was formed in a few years?
- PhilLesh69, on 06/01/2008, -0/+1That depends on who you are asking.
- boombye, on 06/02/2008, -0/+1To be honest, it'd most likely end up being the Fox news crowd. They'd figure out a way to put up with it.
- boombye, on 05/31/2008, -0/+1They're already having a civil war, and tens of thousands of them have already died.
- kreneskyp, on 06/01/2008, -0/+1when his campaign is centering around his "experience" and claims that "i don't need on the job training" then this is a very relevant issue. he is repeatedly showing that he is exaggerating his claims of experience.
if he hadnt tried to be the "experienced" candidate this would be a nonissue. -
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