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- inactive, on 09/10/2008, -24/+500"Two-party 'charade' must end, Ron Paul says"
.........McCain's aides argued that the Texas Republican should endorse McCain because he would do a "little less harm" than Obama........
CLASSIC!
http://campaignforliberty.com/ - inactive, on 09/10/2008, -22/+443After the way that the RNC treated Dr. Paul and his supporters at the convention they should not expect any support from him.
God bless Ron Paul. - YodaJones, on 09/10/2008, -42/+367Ron Paul is the last American politician ALIVE with any sense of morals and decency.
- sollycardy, on 09/10/2008, -12/+274From Campaign For Libery:
The Republican/Democrat duopoly has, for far too long, ignored the most important issues facing our nation. However, alternate candidates Chuck Baldwin, Cynthia McKinney, and Ralph Nader agree with Ron Paul on four key principles central to the health of our nation. These principles should be key in the considerations of every voter this November and in every election.
We Agree
Foreign Policy: The Iraq War must end as quickly as possible with removal of all our soldiers from the region. We must initiate the return of our soldiers from around the world, including Korea, Japan, Europe and the entire Middle East. We must cease the war propaganda, threats of a blockade and plans for attacks on Iran, nor should we re-ignite the cold war with Russia over Georgia. We must be willing to talk to all countries and offer friendship and trade and travel to all who are willing. We must take off the table the threat of a nuclear first strike against all nations.
Privacy: We must protect the privacy and civil liberties of all persons under US jurisdiction. We must repeal or radically change the Patriot Act, the Military Commissions Act, and the FISA legislation. We must reject the notion and practice of torture, eliminations of habeas corpus, secret tribunals, and secret prisons. We must deny immunity for corporations that spy willingly on the people for the benefit of the government. We must reject the unitary presidency, the illegal use of signing statements and excessive use of executive orders.
The National Debt: We believe that there should be no increase in the national debt. The burden of debt placed on the next generation is unjust and already threatening our economy and the value of our dollar. We must pay our bills as we go along and not unfairly place this burden on a future generation.
The Federal Reserve: We seek a thorough investigation, evaluation and audit of the Federal Reserve System and its cozy relationships with the banking, corporate, and other financial institutions. The arbitrary power to create money and credit out of thin air behind closed doors for the benefit of commercial interests must be ended. There should be no taxpayer bailouts of corporations and no corporate subsidies. Corporations should be aggressively prosecuted for their crimes and frauds. - Thinbev, on 09/10/2008, -11/+234Our two party system is such a scam. We constantly go back-and-forth, back-and-forth and nothing changes. It doesn't matter who's in power, Republican or Democrat... Their differences are purely cosmetic and completely irrelevant.
Our quality of life keeps going down, we always have wars, our troops are always overseas in over 700 bases and 140 countries, we always police the world and piss everyone off, we always get taxed like crazy, they always spend a lot and waste our tax money, they always regulate our lives, they always tell us what we can and can't put into our own bodies, the Federal Reserve stays in business and debases our currency... Nothing ever changes.
If America wants change, they need to wake up and realize that we're being scammed. The big corporate interests have bought out both the Republican and Democratic party. They never lose. We always lose. This has to stop. We need America to go back to its roots of freedom and personal liberty and we need to demand that our politicians follow the Constitution.
Visit: www.CampaignForLiberty.com for more info. - richmomz, on 09/10/2008, -9/+224How can a guy that looks and speaks so meekly have such huge balls to take on the establishment... and instead of being destroyed wins the support of millions in the process? Is this guy for real? He's like two scoops of awesome, personified.
"I lost my skepticism. I hope you lost your apathy." -Ron Paul - mickyji, on 09/10/2008, -8/+143You know that even they know what they are doing when McCain aide claims McCain would do 'little less harm'. What was McCain's line... Country first, or something?
- inactive, on 09/10/2008, -6/+132I agree 100% with Ron Paul's rejection of the 2 party duopoly, neither of which represents the "change" we so desperately need.
I also strongly agree that the media has "colluded" with the 2 parties to deceive American citizens. If the MSM was doing its job we would have a Revolution in this country. The MSM is every bit as culpable as the 2 parties. - blakecr, on 09/10/2008, -3/+121Be careful about a write in. In some states if you write in a Republican it is a vote for John McCain. Know the law in your state before you do that.
- sandsafari, on 09/10/2008, -19/+121I am still opting for a write-in for Ron Paul. USA First. Bottomline important message was do not vote for either McCain or Obama and support the future decline of our country.
- troydiggs, on 09/10/2008, -5/+104Help get these candidates into the debates!!!
- mediaspree, on 09/10/2008, -6/+95I think 77 is too old for a 4-8 year commitment in the highest office in the land. The Campaign for Liberty will produce some dynamic polititians who can take Ron's place as the champion of the constitution.
- Magnolit, on 09/10/2008, -13/+100Barr just offered Paul the VP ticket ..!
- Bananyonmous, on 09/10/2008, -24/+110Lets not forget about Jesse Ventura 2012...
- nobody98, on 09/10/2008, -8/+94Dennis Kucinich is a wise man on the democrats side.
- troydiggs, on 09/10/2008, -8/+91a charade it is. nader said it well talking about how every single one of these candidates *except obama and mccain* represent the vast majority wants. all of them represent the people better.
- gardengrocer, on 09/10/2008, -3/+86OPEN DEBATES Listen to all the candidates.Government should be transparent.
- rv361162, on 09/10/2008, -19/+101FISA = OBAMA
POW and no substance = MCCAIN
3rd Party = Change. - Sherman901, on 09/10/2008, -22/+99i'm writing ron paul in on the ticket when i vote. ***** obama and mccain.
- mlirblur, on 09/10/2008, -5/+79I gotta applaud Dr. Paul for taking such a mature, nonpartisan approach to viewing this presidential campaign. You won't find a more sensible opinion from anyone else in Washington.
- vincebodie, on 09/10/2008, -3/+71I just called the Commission on Presidential Debates at (202) 872-1020 as muckemuck suggested, and I was told that the criteria for including candidates in the debates are:
1. That the candidate have a mathematical chance at winning the election based on the number of states for which they have received ballot status.
2. That the candidate be constitutionally eligible for the office based on age, place of birth, citizenship, etc.
3. That the candidate be polling at least 15% in a major poll.
Now wait a minute... how can a candidate get to 15% WITHOUT BEING IN THE DEBATES?!?! Nice "chicken and egg" scenario they have put forth!
I was also told that I could log a complaint which would be passed on to the head of the commission, Janet Brown, AFTER THE DEBATES! I asked if there were any way to keep track of the number or nature of the complaints and was told that "no, there is not". Gotta love this "democracy"!!! - xero69, on 09/10/2008, -8/+75You mean I don't have choose between a giant douche and turd sandwich?
(Southpark reference) - mongolloyd, on 09/10/2008, -15/+79This is what I think Ron Paul's plan is:
He is going in the Republican primaries in 2012, so he can't run as an independent this year (it would alienate him from the Republican party) He won't get the Republican nomination in 2012 (but he'll get pubicity by being in the debates)... then he will run as an independent on a unified third party super ticket... the next 4 years are to grow and organize the movement, culminating in the 2012 run. Of course this is all speculation, but I think it makes sense. This is why he's talking about third parties coming together, getting in the debates, and not running 3rd party this year. What do you think? - enjoiskaterguy, on 09/10/2008, -5/+68Liberty is brewing!
- muckemuck, on 09/10/2008, -4/+66Open the debates
Spread this around and sign it: http://opendebates.org/yourrole/petition/
and call the Commission on Presidential Debates (202) 872-1020 and ask them to include the third party candidates.
You've listened to Obama and McCain for 6+ months - what do Barr, Baldwin, and McKinney have to say about the economic and foreign policy messes we're in? What would McKinney ask Obama? What would Barr ask McCain? - mongolloyd, on 09/10/2008, -1/+48It's not so much for him to win, but to keep spreading the message and getting it out to as many people as possible. J Mac is 72 and in way worse shape that RP, and he very well could be president. I think Ron Paul in 4 years will be in better shape than mccain now.
- inactive, on 09/10/2008, -6/+53TIME IS NOW! Let the people see real choice and change!
http://campaignforliberty.com/ - inactive, on 09/10/2008, -5/+51Not a fan myself, but can't argue with him on the two-party charade having to end.
- Kinsbane, on 09/10/2008, -5/+48Here's the email I got from Bob Barr:
Bob Barr Shows Leadership to Unify Liberty Movement
Asks Paul to Run as his Vice President
Atlanta, GA - Bob Barr, the Libertarian Party nominee for president, has invited GOP Congressman Ron Paul to be his running mate in the upcoming election. In a letter sent to Paul, Barr called Paul one of the "few American patriots" who exist in today's society, and asked him to "seriously consider this final offer as an opportunity to show true, lasting leadership beyond party politics."
Barr cited Paul's 1987 letter to then-GOP Chairman Frank Fahrenkopf, in which Paul stated that, "after years of trying to work through the Republican Party both in and out of government. . . concluded that efforts must be carried on outside the Republican Party."
Though recognizing Paul's personal investment in the Republican Party and his recent attempts to reform the party from inside, Barr said he disagreed with Paul's strategy. "Better options remain that will carry a message of liberty onto the ballot in November and beyond," Barr stated, adding at a news conference called today at the National Press Club, that "change in politics and public policy in America cannot and will not be done from within the current, two-party system."
Barr continued, "'The status quo will not change the status quo' and impact comes entirely from gaining votes in the General Election." That is why Barr said he would remain focused on the Libertarian Party's electoral effort and clear message, and why he invited Paul to join him.
"While you declined my offer to seek the Libertarian presidential nomination many months ago, I ask that you seriously consider this final offer as an opportunity to show true, lasting leadership beyond party politics," Barr stated in his letter to Paul.
Barr's running mate, Wayne Allyn Root, expressed support: "As the Libertarian Party vice presidential nominee, I believe in one thing above all else-principle. There can be no compromise on the ideals of limited government, lower taxes, lower spending, and more freedom for the American people. Those are the principles to which I've dedicated my life. The GOP and Democratic candidates only give lip service-at best-to these ideals and principles. It is only an act at election time every four years."
"I want to end the charade once and for all," Root continued. "I am willing to sacrifice anything to advance the cause of liberty, freedom, smaller government and to enable the American taxpayer to keep more of their own money and property. Understanding Dr. Ron Paul's reputation and name recognition in the freedom movement, I am willing to step aside as Libertarian vice presidential candidate if he would be willing to take my place. I will pledge to work day and night, just as I have as the vice presidential nominee, to support Dr. Paul. I believe this is a wonderful opportunity for the Libertarian and freedom movements. I encourage Dr. Paul to accept Congressman Barr's offer. The campaign is making this offer because we believe there is no sacrifice too large when it comes to improving the lives of the American people and American taxpayers."
Barr's letter to Paul can be found here.
Paul's letter to the GOP can be found here.
Libertarian Party presidential candidate Bob Barr represented the 7th District of Georgia in the U. S. House of Representatives from 1995 to 2003.
To donate by mail:
Barr 2008 Presidential Committee
P.O. Box 725007
Atlanta, GA 31139
To donate by phone:
Call 1-800-Bob-Barr - inactive, on 09/10/2008, -18/+62Shame on Digg if this gets buried!
- manbear, on 09/10/2008, -13/+56it is more like...
McCain: Me First
Obama: Me First
Paul: You First - d03boy, on 09/10/2008, -4/+47@ryland
the idea that the vote for 3rd party "does nothing" is a self-fulfilling prophecy and I'm a little tired of people not realizing that. Just vote for whoever the ***** makes the most sense... anyone besides dem or rep would be fantastic. Even the ***** pirate party for heaven's sake - JettaMan, on 09/10/2008, -19/+61Nobama 2008!
And ditto for McCain too. - ciaran036, on 09/10/2008, -6/+46I like the fact that his reason for not endorsing McCain was because of what his supporters wanted, instead of just what he wanted.
- miket, on 09/10/2008, -2/+42so if noone votes for a 3rd party candidate BECAUSE they have no support.....where, exactly, are they going to get this support from?
Aliens?
is showing your support for who you truely want as president really a waste? - richmomz, on 09/10/2008, -1/+39The goal is to get people thinking outside of the two party system and to make their own decisions, NOT to tell people who to vote for like the system currently does. A third party victory in this election is virtually impossible, but building a platform for third party legitimacy in the next election is a smart, and attainable, goal. Once again, Ron Paul is thinking ahead.
- peestandingup, on 09/10/2008, -11/+50I predict that America is gonna be kicking itself for not electing this guy when we had the chance.
- DaviDaviDaviD, on 09/10/2008, -5/+43What a shame RP won't run for a 3rd party, he has always said that he would not run though. I'm really glad his movement has grown to become as big as it has. Let's hope the next gen of politicians has been inspired by him.
- quesi, on 09/10/2008, -1/+39those were the things that the "3rd parties" agree on... Ron Paul is against the war on drugs.
- AndrewDB, on 09/10/2008, -0/+36God I wish I could digg you up a billion times for knowing that.
- notque, on 09/10/2008, -13/+48I'm voting Nader.
- Ihatepolitics, on 09/10/2008, -1/+38ron paul and nader on cnn
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEw0qKjP7hk - THEROC, on 09/10/2008, -7/+42I like ron paul as much as the next guy, but this shabby article doesn't push my buttons.
I demand the complete video of the press conference with nader, paul, mckinney and baldwin. - PhairOh, on 09/10/2008, -6/+42Voting for someone you do not believe in is the only wasted vote.
- mieses, on 09/10/2008, -0/+35The focus on winning totally misses the point of Ron Paul, his message, and even today's announcement. It's difficult to understand as we've been trained to look at politics like a sport between two teams. Ralph Nader, in a lecture, said "we're a nation of losers". His point was that the losers in politics shape the debate by taking risks. The positions of the risk-takers are then absorbed by main-stream parties. So, in the end, people who stick their necks out like Ron Paul deserve our gratitude (even if they are not "winners"). Keep voting for individuals while you still can!
- Colindean, on 09/10/2008, -9/+441.58 Diggs/minute and this isn't front page? What the hell?
- Kohaxx, on 09/10/2008, -5/+40Ron Paul really is a great American. I'm sure 20 years from now we will be honoring him as the founder of a great shift in political thinking in America (If we last that long).
- jotux, on 09/10/2008, -7/+39Nobama 2008
McSame 2008
I will not be voting for either one. - juankovo, on 09/10/2008, -2/+33McCain: Country first
Ron Paul: We the People first - sryan8913, on 09/10/2008, -1/+31The fact that McCain aides said they would do "harm" makes me face palm.
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