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- cywar, on 10/10/2007, -11/+185We should really not be surprised that the GOP would resort to all sorts of tricks to ensure Ron Paul would not have a first place win in Texas. After all, here in Texas, we are the home of big oil and back room deals.
This straw poll was so well regulated that only true Neo-con co-sponsors could possibly win. They don't like it when the peasantry tries to change politics as usual. - Jereome209, on 10/10/2007, -10/+179While Ron Paul supporters have every right to livid about this. I tend to think it only fuels the fire more rather then discourage RP supporters.
- soulmantim, on 10/10/2007, -8/+166Incredible. That GOP guy should be fired.
- prisoner24601, on 10/10/2007, -6/+125Do I misunderstand, or is Ron Paul actually suggesting the abolition of the IRS?
- Razmear, on 10/10/2007, -6/+91Consider this a lesson for the next event, check in first then go out and sign wave. Expect the GOP officials to play hardball in the best of cases and to play dirty when they can.
Still a great showing, but we probably could have taken 2nd if they let that group thru. - ajpalmieri, on 10/10/2007, -6/+90Yes, Ron Paul wants to abolish the IRS and repeal the 16th amendment.
- coodies4ever, on 10/10/2007, -3/+72i am no ron paul supporter - in fact i usually get irritated by the amount of paul stuff on digg
but i had to digg this. just deplorable tactics by the gop. thank god we have the internet to make sure stuff like this doesn't go unseen - NoTiG, on 10/10/2007, -1/+68"The vote was supposed to be until 1 or 2 pm, but GOP security prevented registered Delegates from entering the building who were wearing Ron Paul signs at 10am.
I was standing over by the Granny warriors when 2 delegates approached me and asked me to help them get into the convention center.
They had showed up at the door a little before 10am wearing Ron Paul shirts. The security guard told them to change into proper attire. They left and changed then came back and it was now 10:10/10:20 and the security told them the registration was closed.
Apparently everyone who showed up from out of town or with an online registration recpt. was denied access unless they got there before 10am and in proper attire.
Delegates who showed up, got their credentials and then changed were allowed to enter.
In the video the woman in red asks a Ron Paul organizer for her pass. He tells her the woman with the box has it. She runs to the woman with the box of passes, and askes if she has the passes, and the woman tells her no. So what was in that box, and why was she in such a hurry to get the box out of the convention center? It was in my opinon a lie and the passes were in the box.
The security guard is asked by me on camera who he works for, and he evades the question. If he works for the GOP then why not say "yes GOP" he says "the party" Who's party? Another candidate? Who told this security guard to deny access to Ron Paul delegates?
We counted about 12 or so people walking up to the door and being turned away every 10 min or so. This went on from 10am till 1:30 when I left. This does not count the delegates who showed up in Ron Paul shirts and could not or decided not to change and simply went home frustrated and out the $50 or $75 fee the GOP charges.
If they paid for credentials and were denied them, should they file a dispute on their credit card? Would hundreds of disputes on the GOP merchant account make national headlines, and force the merchant account provider to suspend or even file criminal charges against the account holder?" - RTourn, on 10/10/2007, -3/+68It's all fun and games until it's your Rights gets denied.
- nedzeve, on 10/10/2007, -22/+83Ron Paul is going to lower my taxes and give me back my guns. 'nuff said.
- chroko, on 10/10/2007, -4/+65I need to stop reading / watching anything on the internet because this crap just makes me so angry. Or maybe to go out and protest or something.The sheer ***** stupidity and arrogance of brutally retarded self-important douchebag officials like this brings great shame on the entire country - and it seems to be happening all over the place. Actually, I'd settle for a device that allows me to slap people over the internet.
These straw polls, while not official - are part of the process of democracy. I expect vote manipulation to happen in some 3rd world dictatorial ***** - not in what is supposed to be the greatest country in the world.
/And Ron Paul isn't even my top choice - Kucinich 2008. - shadekeiko, on 10/10/2007, -4/+63that's interesting. when I went to Austin a few weeks ago i saw signs everywhere for Ron Paul. And Austin is typically more liberal than the rest of Texas.
- rolf, on 10/10/2007, -4/+50AscendoTuum,
Congratulations, you just encountered a troll. Welcome to the internet. - pkonink, on 10/10/2007, -3/+49Personally I see comments like this on Digg, but I've read quite a bit about Ron Paul in the past weeks. None of these comments actually seem to represent his demonstrated views.
For instance, he is personally against abortion, and wants to do something like remove Roe v. Wade - however he also does not want to ban abortion. Because he is a strict Constitutionalist, he would rather let individual states decide whether to ban it inside their borders or not and leave the federal government out of the argument altogether. You may view this as a good or bad thing, he has also already voted in the past to not allow the federal government to restrict travel between states for abortion, meaning he (at least in the past) does not support interfering with a person traveling from a pro-life state to an abortion state. Do you get the picture? He is a conservative in the sense his viewpoints on individual liberties and responsibilities hearken back to a time I think a lot of people are only just rediscovering. He doesn't think the government, or federal government at least, should interfere in OR facilitate your life, as that is your responsibility.
Personally I disagree at heart with a lot of his views, for instance I do not think that radically privatizing everything under the sun is a good idea. Paying taxes is necessary and I believe completely in programs like social security - I think society through the government has a responsibility to care for the elderly and infirm. Despite this I support RP and will vote for him for president. Why? Because I believe he is outside of special interests. He votes for what he believes in, and he has stated that he is running to get the nation's finances in order and do away with despicable laws like the Patriot Act. He doesn't want to be president to turn the US into some radical ultra-libertarian society. And if you look into his political life, he presents himself as a very trustworthy person - calmly and consistently voting according to his stated ideals every time. He is the only or one of very few congressmen to actually return (unspent) money back to the government from his office's budget - every year he's been in office.
And he doesn't want to abolish taxes - he wants to ease it. I have heard him in an interview float the idea of replacing income tax with a national sales tax. While in his heart he probably would like to, I have not heard him talk about removing property tax nor do I think he would attempt to do that.
He does come off as an isolationist in regard to world affairs, but is that really all that bad right now? Look at how spread out our military is right now, and this administration and quite possibly the next (non-Paul) administration is looking to attack Iran. We can't afford this insanity, neither in terms of government funding nor in terms of wasted lives.
Getting back to the topic, either these people are wing-nuts who either know nothing about Ron Paul but like to be inflammatory or they are part of the same movement that is appears to be trying to keep Paul out of the mainstream or presenting him as some sort of kook or fringe candidate not worth mentioning unless it is with some modicum of scorn.
http://www.ronpaul2008.com/about/ - iamr00t, on 10/10/2007, -2/+46I love how that scumbag yes-man tries to tell them not to film him...then one of the people says "Why not, the government films us without permission!" Classic.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -4/+46ya like for one only letting previous delegates vote in it. theres like 100 people who bought tickets last i saw. and now they turn away half of them
saddam had less fraudulent elections
- PeppermintPig, on 10/10/2007, -1/+43I suspect the biggest issue is a lack of clear information in the paperwork. They paid to vote. They were denied an opportunity to vote. That's a business transaction that did not provide service as expected. They are entitled to their money at the very least!
- futureteg, on 10/10/2007, -2/+43actually if you read they came in Ron Paul tshirts with about 20 minutes to spare, and were told they couldn't wear Ron Paul tshirts inside, so they had to go change, these are the few people that had spare clothes in their cars. So the only reason they were a few minutes late, is because they weren't allowed to wear Ron Paul shirts
not suprising really, texas GOP has actually actively campaigned against him for his seat - LordSkywalker, on 10/10/2007, -6/+44Or she is just insane and making stuff up.
- chroko, on 10/10/2007, -5/+38A cut-off point - at 10 in the morning? Does that not make you even *slightly* suspicious? What kind of ***** arbitrary cutoff time is that when voting for real elections are open all day long? I'm rarely out of bed by 10.
And you answered your own hypothetical question - it's not hard to get 50 people on a bus. - NoTiG, on 10/10/2007, -4/+37From the actual witnesses: ":We counted about 12 or so people walking up to the door and being turned away every 10 min or so. This went on from 10am till 1:30 when I left:
I believe even exaggerated that would have made the difference to second place.
12 X 6 X 3.5 = 252 people. - GeneralReikan, on 10/10/2007, -1/+33I might be misreading his stance, but I believe he just doesn't want the Federal government to support public schools because it's not part of the constitution. Individual states can do whatever the hell they want. Which again brings us back to competition. Each state will be competing against one another to improve their public services to attract more citizens and thus more tax dollars.
- WilliamDavis, on 10/10/2007, -2/+33"texas GOP has actually actively campaigned against him for his seat"
Yeah, they really don't like the guy. They'd rather see democrats win than have Ron Paul screw up their gravy train. - rudyghouliani, on 10/10/2007, -5/+35And this is the reason why we ended up with Bush for two terms, they don't understand what the candidates stand for and just vote for who the TV tells them to vote for and then abuse everyone else that actually took the time to check out the candidates, F*** no wonder USA is screwed!
- RTourn, on 10/10/2007, -3/+32Then why not let the supporters in?
- maxhrk, on 10/10/2007, -5/+34then be a supporter yourself. and tell the people about it. if you dont do it. then you only know the despair. "it impossible that he going to win. It's impossible" it very pathetic thing to do. I dont care if Ron Paul doing it for publicity. It stupid to block a delegate vote.
- rolf, on 10/10/2007, -1/+29Nightschaos, you are an idiot. He wants to abolish the Federal Department of Education - which does NOT equate to abolishing public education. Federal involvement leads to things like "No Child Left Behind" Act. Public Schools are not at the federal level. They are financed locally, ask anyone who has to pay their balooning school/property tax on their house - they can tell you.
So Ron Paul can't even abolish it as President even if he wanted to. - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -5/+32so your opinion is.. you like being screwed?
we lost so just get over it? america is over? why try anymore?
im sorry but i dont agree with you - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -5/+32hes doing it to win, and to wake people up
he could give a ***** about publicity
also if he had no chance why would they be trying soooo hard to ignore him, lie about him, and subvert the political process - matador3, on 10/10/2007, -0/+26Their credentials were waiting for them inside...
- PeppermintPig, on 10/10/2007, -1/+27Full of hate any? You can support Ron Paul and vote for someone else. I see nothing wrong with that. Liberty allows for a wide diversity of solutions. Let's just hope we still have that liberty in five years.
- NoTiG, on 10/10/2007, -2/+27Not to mention that isn't even on his priorities. His first priorities are saving us billions to trillions of dollars by pulling us out of the 150 something countries we are currently occupying. I think that little tax break right there would result in such a visible effect that the beneficial changes would be apparent. His next priority would be getting the young people off social security which is a dead dog... so people can save their money how they choose and not have the fund robbed/raided by the government so when they are old and their money was pseudo saved for them they won't even have it. Then of course there is the income tax, and the IRS.
- VoteForRonPaul, on 10/10/2007, -2/+26Think ling and hard about this questions:
"Why does the government want to be so heavily involved in education as well as deeply tied to the mainstream media?"
Long live the Internet... it very well might be your last chance to save your liberty. - Fordi, on 10/10/2007, -1/+25Aww, how cute. You don't actually believe in fairness, even to your own party members.
- Xvash2, on 10/10/2007, -5/+29No, he wants to make competition with public schools legal. Not to abolish them, just to allow companies to compete. His belief is that the free market, when properly working, can deliver anything better and cheaper than the government.
- TaLoNxNL, on 10/10/2007, -11/+34More and more proof surfaces that America IS the Fourth Reich, but when will the Americans realize this,
when they're locked up in FEMAcamps? Anyway, hopefully sooner! - Sovereigndk, on 10/10/2007, -8/+30Why is the GOP scared of Ron Paul?
Same reason the DEM's are scared of Ron Paul.
Ron Paul stands for the TRUTH, and the current politicians just can't handle that, neither can the Fed Reserve! - WiseWeasel, on 10/10/2007, -12/+33It's difficult to tell what is going on in that video. It could be that they just didn't get their tickets like they were supposed to for some reason, and other people getting in already got theirs. I support Ron Paul and all, but the video doesn't seem like very good evidence of whatever claims they're making. Some kind of narrative account of the event would have been helpful...
- Elwar, on 10/10/2007, -3/+23No, Guiliani didn't show up.
- PeppermintPig, on 10/10/2007, -3/+23That's really nice of the candidates to let me own a gun. /sarcasm
It's none of their business whether I own a gun or not!
So your expertise on liberty comes from citing Switzerland? Ok...
You can't make people be free. All you can really do is give liberty.
nedzeve's statement may be simple, but that's no reason to make assumptions about his views. Ask questions maybe instead? - debuggercll, on 10/10/2007, -14/+34I thought the title was "Ron Paul delegates Experience Tranny at the Texas Straw Poll".
Color me mildly disappointed. - PeppermintPig, on 10/10/2007, -7/+27An individual defending themselves with a gun is a very simple thing, and ought to be easily understood.
Liberty is a simple concept, until you run into someone who doesn't understand and needs it spoon fed to them. - Lagstorm, on 10/10/2007, -7/+26This country is being taken away from us one day at a time. Good luck America. I'm outta here and many more will follow suit.
- Bossy, on 10/10/2007, -3/+21Everyone, take a minute and submit this story to CNN iReport and other sources.
http://www.cnn.com/exchange/ireports/topics/forms/breaking.news.html - ScionAltera, on 10/10/2007, -2/+20"Also most people are not smart enough to balance their checkbook, you really think they can handle saving for their retirement?"
Irrelevant. The government still shouldn't do it for them. It's called being "free" and it means you have to do ***** for yourself. - epsilona01, on 10/10/2007, -1/+19This is the same GOP that was involved in 'caging' during the 2004 election. As we have seen, they will do anything to achieve their goals. I hope everyone realizes that if one of those neo-con candidates gets elected we're all *****.
- straywolf, on 10/10/2007, -0/+18So...that so-called "security" guard didn't like being filmed. Tough nuts! If you guys pay attention to the video, you can see a security camera filming the entrances...so its all on tape somewhere anyways.
- Manitou, on 10/10/2007, -2/+19"He wants to take away things like public schools and such"
I don't mind the schools, but how dare he take away our precious "such"? (Are you related to Miss South Carolina?) - WilliamDavis, on 10/10/2007, -1/+17I agree with you. Calling this "Tyranny" devalues the meaning of the word. Political parties have always behaved like private entities. They just like to pretend they're public entities when convenient for them.
- NikoKun, on 10/10/2007, -0/+16This is despicable... File charges against them for this!!!
Maybe contact the media about it... This cannot go on, their actions are an attempt prevent certain voters from getting in... -_- And that is equal to vote fixing, or stealing the election... even if this is just a straw poll... -
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