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- sbuent, on 10/05/2008, -18/+365This is the best article about John McCain that I have seen--well-written, well-researched, well-documented (often in McCain's own words) and scary as hell. Should be a must-read for everyone who supports McCain--if you can read this, digest it, and still support him, then that's your right as an American, but I'd have to say I doubt your judgment.
- tonism, on 10/05/2008, -14/+216This is a must read. It is all there. One of the best articles I have ever read.
This article highlights McCain an an empty vessel, who has no substance or soul.
It also clearly demonstrates that all he wants is the title of POTUS, and has no intentions of doing ANYTHING for the people of America. - kdawg1012, on 10/05/2008, -11/+169Why more of the American people don't see this is beyond me. They let McCain define himself, when he should b defined by his record and facts.
- alapoet, on 10/05/2008, -10/+112McCain was never really the maverick he claims to be.
Even when he went against the Republican orthodoxy, it was for shallow, headline-grabbing reasons, as this excellent article makes clear. - glibpaxman, on 10/06/2008, -9/+110george bush's career as a pilot..... mediocre
george bush's career as a president.... failure
john mccain's career as a pilot.... disaster
john mccain's career as a president... ??? - sfgamergirl, on 10/06/2008, -9/+93FTA:
In its broad strokes, McCain's life story is oddly similar to that of the current occupant of the White House. John Sidney McCain III and George Walker Bush both represent the third generation of American dynasties. Both were born into positions of privilege against which they rebelled into mediocrity. Both developed an uncanny social intelligence that allowed them to skate by with a minimum of mental exertion. Both struggled with booze and loutish behavior. At each step, with the aid of their fathers' powerful friends, both failed upward. And both shed their skins as Episcopalian members of the Washington elite to build political careers as self-styled, ranch-inhabiting Westerners who pray to Jesus in their wives' evangelical churches. - Berkana, on 10/05/2008, -12/+93Maverick™
If this were a drinking game, with a drink for each time we heard that, we'd all be drunk by now. Ditto for the term "change."
Specifics, please! Platitudes can't run a country. (I'm talkin' to you, Sarah.) - franklymister, on 10/06/2008, -4/+73You dare anyone to prove you wrong?
Ok, is it putting your "country first" when you block efforts by the families of POW/MIAs to find out what happened to their loved ones in Vietnam?
Is it putting "country first" to put Sarah Palin on the ticket instead of a more experienced and qualified woman or man, just because it makes good politics?
Do you know what a community organizer does? As Obama's first job out of college, he chose to help other Americans with things like job training, health care for their families, and education for their kids. Since then he's had a stellar record of standing up for us in both the Illinois Senate and the United States Senate.
It's sad to hear people like you hating on Americans so much. We're a proud country of immigrants, hard workers, people who believe in equality, fair play, and reaching to be the best person we each can be. This isn't a country for whites only, it's not a theocracy, and it's not a one-party dictatorship that sacrifices its freedoms just because some thugs try to push us around.
If you have a problem with that, all I have to say to you is love it or leave it. - inactive, on 10/06/2008, -9/+77John McCain is not a hero.... he is a punk.
- rawg, on 10/06/2008, -8/+57I don't understand why everybody seems to thinks that John McCain didn't confess while he was a POW. He admits it himself in his own book and in interviews he gave after he returned. I'm not blaming the guy but there were other POWs who didn't make any confessions and far too many who died in POW camps or were left behind. McCain was a hero but he wasn't the only one and certainly not the most heroic.
FTA:
"I'll give you military information if you will take me to the hospital," he later admitted pleading with his captors. McCain now insists the offer was a bluff, designed to fool the enemy into giving him medical treatment. In fact, his wounds were attended to only after the North Vietnamese discovered that his father was a Navy admiral. What has never been disclosed is the manner in which they found out: McCain told them. According to Dramesi, one of the few POWs who remained silent under years of torture, McCain tried to justify his behavior while they were still prisoners. "I had to tell them," he insisted to Dramesi, "or I would have died in bed."
His value as a propaganda tool and bargaining chip was far greater than any military intelligence he could provide, and McCain knew it. "It was hard not to see how pleased the Vietnamese were to have captured an admiral's son," he writes, "and I knew that my father's identity was directly related to my survival." But during the course of his medical treatment, McCain followed through on his offer of military information. Only two weeks after his capture, the North Vietnamese press issued a report — picked up by The New York Times — in which McCain was quoted as saying that the war was "moving to the advantage of North Vietnam and the United States appears to be isolated." He also provided the name of his ship, the number of raids he had flown, his squadron number and the target of his final raid." - Reynardine, on 10/06/2008, -1/+44The references are *direct quotes* from military officials who knew McCain. Any one of those people could give Rolling Stone hell if they were misquoted. You can't get much better-sourced than that.
- franklymister, on 10/06/2008, -3/+45You mean the Navy.
He joined because both his father and grandfather were Admirals, and he figured that was his best hope for making it big. He quit the Navy when he found out he wasn't going to make Admiral himself, and figured he could have a bigger career in Congress. - franklymister, on 10/06/2008, -2/+44What do you mean, he's always stood up for POWs?
He has been the man blocking the efforts of the POW/MIA families to find out what happened to their loved ones.
Don't listen to me, the "liberal wingnut," listen to Vietnam veterans in their own words: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFM1xqqTX_g
If you don't believe Vietnam veterans, watch McCain for yourself as he attacks Dolores Alfond, chairwoman of the National Alliance of Families, reducing her almost to tears as she tries to ask about the MIAs left behind: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CazKanlYDg&feature ...
You can't just say "John McCain has always stood up for POWs" and leave it at that. You need some kind of evidence to back up your claim.
I'm not sure why you're defending a ticket that has a woman who supports anti-American secessionists, and a man who chose to make Communist propaganda videos when his brothers in arms kept their mouths shut, but in my America, that kind of thing just doesn't wash.
Sorry buddy, but these colors don't run. If you want to keep praising secessionists and calling Americans "wingnuts," I suggest you find a country you like better to go live in. - alabamasucks, on 10/06/2008, -9/+49I thought Tom Cruise was Maverick
- rawg, on 10/06/2008, -1/+38You missed the best line which comes right after that clip...
"In one vital respect, however, the comparison is deeply unfair to the current president: George W. Bush was a much better pilot." - jforjools, on 10/06/2008, -6/+42Well, apparently I need to start reading Rolling Stone again. I haven't read it in about 20 years. This was a very thorough article.
- AdInventive, on 10/06/2008, -5/+40What a scathing article.
The people that will condemn this are the ones that will not read it. They are the same ones that will refuse to follow up on all of the factual claims made in it and deflect it all.
It's well written nonetheless. Nothing I didn't already know in general, but well woven to portray the character of this broken person. - AdInventive, on 10/06/2008, -5/+40Says the Fox news robot mascot.
- Eagle193, on 10/06/2008, -6/+39I find it hard to believe that anyone would still respect McCain after reading this article, providing that all the information is correct.
- basye, on 10/06/2008, -1/+31No, he never was.
My father was an airman and worked on McCain's plane before...he's told me enough stories to solidify at least in my mind that this guy is and always was a man of poor character and judgment. - fugularity, on 10/06/2008, -0/+30How in the world can you people not take the simple steps to verify these damning stories? I mean, it's all right there: many direct quotes, personal references and agreements with the facts stated, and cross-references with his own history! WHAT MORE CAN YOU ASK FOR??? Just because you say the facts aren't backed up, doesn't make it true. But I guess no matter how bad it gets, you're just going to keep re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic, right?
- eviltandem, on 10/06/2008, -2/+32When you have no answer to the facts, attack the source.
Fox news has taught you well... - inactive, on 10/06/2008, -2/+31You can't reason with these people. They're the 20% who still believe Bush isn't the worst President in American history.
- brickbat, on 10/06/2008, -2/+30Maverick, Maverick, Maverick, Maverick, Maverick.
- haydesigner, on 10/06/2008, -3/+30Editorial... backed up by RESEARCH and FACTS.
Unless you somehow believe facts are irrelevant...? - kelstock, on 10/06/2008, -6/+32Haven't read an article as detailed and unsensationalized as this in a very long time. Refreshing and informative - thankyou R.S.
- bubblz, on 10/06/2008, -4/+30I am surprised, I didn't think I could like him any less but after reading this article its hard not to.
- CaLaVa, on 10/06/2008, -6/+32Wow, MavePrick.
- ansatsu29, on 10/06/2008, -6/+32The difference between John McCain and Barack Obama?
Barack Obama has a vision on how the US will be under his leadership than John McCain who is focused on putting his personal agendas first before his own country. Plus: John McCain is one fat liar. - emailowndme, on 10/06/2008, -1/+26I've learned to respect a man for his actions, not his words. McCain says he's "Stood up for veterans" but the reality is that he has voted against them damn near every chance he's gotten.
After this election I hope maverick returns to being a terrible western movie from the early 90's and we never refer to a politician as one again, because no politician we would ever have the chance to vote for could ever be a maverick, like any decent choice in this election, he or she won't make it past the primaries. - haydesigner, on 10/06/2008, -2/+27One of the more interesting things (to me) implied in the article is that McCain's father seemingly did *not* do anything special to get his son released as a POW.
He was in charge of the Pacific theater of operations, and could likely have brokered a special deal to get him released. Apparently, his father honored the military code of honor more than his son did. - inactive, on 10/06/2008, -6/+31John McCain only cares about one thing: John McCain.
I am convinced that if John McCain was offered a chance to gain the Presidency, and no one would ever learn about it, he would literally slit the throat of an innocent child to become President. Think about that. - fugularity, on 10/06/2008, -1/+26And the bias you are referring to is what exactly? The bias of reality? Oh man, I totally forgot the facts have a left-wing bias!!!
- doublefelix, on 10/06/2008, -0/+22Destroyed not one but two fighters by stalling out? Flying through a high power line and causing an international incident. Ignoring your instrumentation and flying directly into a SAM destroying a 3rd plane and getting captured in the process? Sounds like we've got the makings of a real Top Gun there Maverick.
- gab00n, on 10/06/2008, -2/+24Whenever someone self proclaims to be something, then you know that person is full of *****.
- bleutuna, on 10/06/2008, -2/+23Great article. Post it, send it, print it, give it.
- toetagger, on 10/06/2008, -1/+22All of the war vets I know would punch you in the face if you called them a war hero. Not John McCain - he promotes himself as such. Meanwhile, he blocked the efforts of people trying to find out about guys that are sill missing in Vietnam. He gets very low grades from vet organizations. The man is a pig.
- roccanet, on 10/06/2008, -5/+26It just blows me away that people cant see that in ***** general the majority of GOP politicians have been full of ***** for YEARS!!!!! Look at the records people. Its like the entire world can see this except these fools in nebraska and middle america - what is it going to take?
SHEEP!!!!! barry goldwater was the last honest republican in the national scene and hes been dead for a long time.... - inactive, on 10/06/2008, -7/+28John Mccain is Macbeth: Military man sacrificing honor for political power
- wlwatkins, on 10/06/2008, -11/+31The really sad thing is they never even talked of the 32 confessions he did gave, nor mentioned the pow's that state things of how the confessions actually got his fellow pow's killed....just google pow's...they don't hold back
The fact of the matter is He is right down scarey.....in an errey, pyschotic way.......That leaves him no dought to become elected.....then what will we do?
He states he won't help out programs, education is screwed, our loss of freedom on the internet much less his rule of thumb to veto everything he wants.
But, more inportantly why is Bush still in office? That is the same answer that will get McCain elected.....bigger than we will ever know It has to be! - barc0001, on 10/06/2008, -0/+20How about if even half of it is correct? That's some really crappy behavior described there...
- emailowndme, on 10/06/2008, -0/+19how about you read the article, specifically, the beginning, right when someone who stayed in vietnam in the prison camp with him. Granted he is only 1 man, but it's pretty clear, that his opinion is that McCain is the same party boy as ever.
- Aensland, on 10/06/2008, -1/+20Why? There's no problem with having a rational discussion of the facts. Rant-filled spews with no evidence to back them up, on the other hand, deserve all the burying they receive.
- Khanvalescent, on 10/06/2008, -2/+21He's just regurgitating fox news talking points. I counted how many times the words "community organizer" were used during just one night of their coverage of the Republican National Convention - 37.
- kiubo, on 10/06/2008, -4/+23"In his current campaign, however, McCain has become the kind of politician he ran against in 2000."
Well put. - dmbchris, on 10/06/2008, -0/+18What an amazing, thoughtful piece that really cuts down Obama's character. I especially like this quote:
"If you reached this page by clicking a link, contact the Web site administrator to alert them that the link is incorrectly formatted. "
ZING! - emailowndme, on 10/06/2008, -1/+19I hate to say it brother, but you really need to work on your spelling, I know typing fast can be ugly, but damn dude, you are just making us Dem's look terrible.
- tantobourne, on 10/06/2008, -5/+23that was a damned good read. dug.
- heystoopid, on 10/06/2008, -4/+21So as far back as 1967 John McCain donned the mask of Janus and the public saw the false facade and those who knew him saw behind the facade and through all his lies even then .
I pity the poor voters of Arizona only ever seeing an indistinct shadow of the real scumbag behind the mask.
As one could say the man is a total fake and a flake too , maverick my A***e , never has been , never will be , thank you Rolling Stone! - dougs55, on 10/06/2008, -0/+17The article confirmed a few things I'd suspected about McCain all along, unfortunately an article in Rolling Stone is preaching to the choir. People who really believe in McCain/Palin are going to continue to do so in spite of all evidence and logic.
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