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- joeshlub, on 10/12/2007, -8/+86the phrase "blogs discover" should translate to "bloggers fabricate"
- JCSaint, on 10/12/2007, -12/+57My god, they're all losing their minds.
- TroubleInMind, on 10/12/2007, -5/+46I thought covering up the fact that Bruce Willis killed Bin Laden was bad enough.
- Vetsin, on 10/12/2007, -8/+41Dear America,
I wanted to tell you about the weapons, I really did! But everyone thought it would be too embarrassing failing to locate the goal of two wars. We kept it down to just Osama, hope you don't mind. Not to worry you any more, but, these weapons were also stolen by terrorist forces. We're not too sure how they were able to smuggle them out, but we've got our top men on it. Our source also says that China, Russia, and North Korea are planning to use them against us. We're also trying to find out why Russia would use stolen munitions instead of their own, and will have you updated as soon as possible.
Love always
George Bush, Jr. xoxo - idugcoal, on 10/12/2007, -7/+35the majority didn't vote for bush in 2000. thought you might wanna know that.
- smackywentz, on 10/12/2007, -18/+44I guess this is how it feels for them when we say things about 9/11 Truth. I can see where they're coming from now, so without further ado I'll just say, you WMD-troofers need to get a life.
FACE! - alittletoohigh, on 10/12/2007, -5/+30Great Script! Have it on my desk by monday.
- afruff23, on 10/12/2007, -3/+24At night, the LGF come out to play...
GTFO ignorant ***** - PATSCRU, on 10/12/2007, -6/+27welcome to LALALAND!
- pintomp3, on 10/12/2007, -1/+20could have at least gotten the year right.
- Urusai, on 10/12/2007, -8/+26Then, doctor the polls so it appears that 51% believe it.
- saigumi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14Quote: "The stupidity of the majority never ceases to amaze me. "
Actually, it's forgetfulness. This "Iraq has WMD" thing didn't spring up 4 years ago. Or eve 7 years ago when Bush came into office.
http://www.cnn.com/US/9812/16/clinton.iraq.speech/
Note, the person accusing Iraq of hiding WMDs is Clinton. - MoneyGuy, on 10/12/2007, -6/+19Moon Bats of the Right!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -7/+20What a god damned fruitcake!!
With people like her on their side, the conservatives sure don't need enemies. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -13/+24Typical neocon tactic... keep saying it until 30% of the people believe it.
- bethlagarrison, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13This is pretty much an identical situation to the whole 9/11 "truth" movement, but the partisan bias swings the other way. Instead of a conspiracy involving the right, it's a conspiracy supporting the right.
Which means that when O'Reilly reports on this, he'll inevitably refer to it as a rock-solid theory instead of "unpatriotic treasonous nonsense from a bunch of traitorous loonies." - paulbjensen, on 10/12/2007, -6/+16This woman is premium crackpot - the Daily Mail (the paper she writes for in the UK) is a closed-minded, closet-racist piece of tabloid poo that worringly is read by a lot of people (including my mother).
If what she is saying has any element of truth, then please, SHOW ME THE BUNKERS...since the WMD have apparently been smuggled out of the country, the only evidence we can abstract of their existence is these bunkers of course! Surely they haven't 'disappeared' too? - Wacer, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12I wonder why Bush just wouldn't have some planted in the country and then show the world he was right? Could it be that hard to pull off?
- IbnDigg, on 10/12/2007, -8/+16Melanie Phillips is a right wing nutcase, taken seriously only by those who are in the job of catching nutcases and sticking them in institutions, and those morons at littlegreenfoozballs.
Her views on things other than Muslims are remarkable enough. Incredibly she believes that global warming is a "global scam" (1) and a money making opportunity (2). She also believes that evolution is nothing more than a crazy theory (3) and an inadequate one too.
As for anyone who is anti-war (the Iraq war of course), she says that the entire anti-war movement is made up of Islamic Extremists (4) and that London is the hotbed of terrorism. Amazingly when asked that why does she just not move out of the UK if it is so bad she responded "What, and desert the battlefield?". (4)
I could go on, but have little time to search for more sources, but I hope some of you at least get the point that this women is our version of Ann Coulter, and for what it's worth, I apologize on behalf of Britain for such an ignominious export.
1) http://www.melaniephillips.com/diary/archives/000253.html
2) http://www.melaniephillips.com/articles-new/?p=460
3) http://www.melaniephillips.com/articles/archives/001664.html
4) http://www.nypost.com/postopinion/opedcolumnists/66944.htm - EntropyMan, on 10/12/2007, -11/+19This is why blind cynicism is just as bad as blind faith. Liars run free and unchecked by reality.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+13Loonbats.
- Wacer, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10This article doesn't make sense. Why in the hell would Russia and China help them move chemicals to Syria? They would have nothing to gain from it. They would probably be happy the stuff was confiscated (if it did exist) by the Americans so the world inventory of weapons would be down and they could sell more.
- davecor, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11Saddam DID have a least one WMD - he gassed 5000 Kurds in one day. It's doubtful that was the ONLY one he had.
Imagine the cops show up at a house with a search warrant for drugs and the people say "Can you come back in a few hours?". A few hours later, the cops return and find no drugs... would that be a surprise?
That's essentially what happened when we defeated Iraq and then Clinton let the weapons inspectors get pushed around by Iraqi authorities and then eventually kicked out. There was PLENTY of time to shuttle any WMDs to Syria for safekeeping.
I've also heard the theory that Hussein had a lot FEWER WMDs than he thought - being duped by his own people who would take money to produce them. I remember an interview with an Iraqi chemist who was in on the scam and said they produced dummy WMDs that they pretended were live rounds of anthrax, sarin and smallpox. Who would be the wiser until they were fired? So imagine Iraqi officials keeping weapons inspectors away from dummy rounds that eventually test negative... LOL.. Ironic, eh?
Just don't blow off 5,000 dead Kurds... a WMD WAS used and it's unlikely anyone would only produce ONE. - bbhh, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9if this was true, wouldn't it be possible for the republicans to show the places where the weapons were stored and do "tests" to show that WMD's were at one point stored there. They could say that they had been moved before they were found by the US troops, sure it wouldn't be WMD's but it would better than nothing. i'm no political spin-meister, but i'm sure they could have turned this into good news.
also, am i the only one that, in a weird sick way, wishes this is true and that we'll all find out about it? - Junkyarddawg, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10Using North Korean trucks and French helicopters. Running on Venezuelan fuel.
Am I missing someone? Oh yeah, the mastermind of the entire operation: BILL CLINTON! - BohicaTwentyTwo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7"Hundreds of first responders to 9-11 have gone on tape saying that they heard explosions from controlled demolitions in building 7."
Not a single one of them said controlled demolitions, you added that part. - nonchai, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7A clue to the "unbiased" accuracy of her "source" - Dave Gaubatz - is the web site that the so called accurate "source" runs:
http://www.saneworks.us/National-Existence-category-3.htm - Afreyt, on 10/12/2007, -5/+10If I believe this blogger, which I don't, then either way, the current administration lied. Ergo, this is not news.
- censorme, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8I don't think this guy is as crazy as the article makes him out to be. There is a vast conspiracy against the U.S. and the west. It's hard to even call it a conspiracy when countries like Iran boast about their destructive plans. The cold war with Russia is showing signs of a revival as that country slips back into it's old ways. China is a stalking feline building a hunger for energy resources. I bet Syria or Iran will be the staging ground the next extremist attack. People need to open their eyes to what is brewing. Children are now beheading people yelling Allah is great.
- Wacer, on 10/12/2007, -7/+11No matter who you want to vote for, don't use this site as an advertising system.
- unloud, on 10/12/2007, -5/+9Okay, so even if there were WMDs (yeah right), that still means Bush's actions were dumb as *****. This conspiracy theory is impossible though for three reasons:
1) Bush was foaming at the mouth for any news of WMDs; the second he found any, he would have had lots of press and such to tout his brilliance. If they were stolen, they would be stolen after being anounced.
2) If they by chance were stolen too quickly, it would have been really easy to trace where they went. WMDs are hard to transport, and once you have a starting point to look from there are only so many possible ways they could go.
3) If they did go over the border to Iran or Saudi Arabia, then Bush would have even more reason to disclose that information. What more incentive is needed to pursue those countries other than "That's where they went"? Hell, the administration is saying that now without proof, if they had proof they'd be screaming it from buildings to cover their reputation.
Honestly, this is a good time though to find all the people who are idiots in "journalism" and write them on a list. Don't give these people any more of your time. - SaintStryfe, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Ya know, even if WMD are found by now, then really, it doesn't matter. if they were well enough hid to make them untraceable for 4+ years, they were well hidden enough to not be an issue.
or, ya know, they may not have existed outside of the Neocon agenda. - bigjimslade, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5
Wow! This is a crazy conspiracy. I can't believe they came up with something so crazy! I wonder what would happen if leftists tried to come up with a wild conspiracy of their own...maybe something like "911 was an inside job." That would be just plain nutty, wouldn't it? - Egoist, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3If this article is valid, they would help hide it because they would be in a world of ***** if found to be selling WMD while Iraq was under international sanctions.
- WombatControl, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I'm not sure those arguments hold up, even if your point may be right:
1) I agree Bush would be touting any proof of Iraq WMDs. However, if there was evidence that Iraq shipped them all out to Syria under our noses, that wouldn't exactly reflect well on the war. We were trying to prevent Iraq from shipping out its WMDs, which is exactly what happened anyway. It wouldn't cut the way that the Administration would have wanted.
2) It's easy to ship WMDs somewhere. Anthrax is a powder. Chemical weapons are no different than any other chemical. Handling the materials can be difficult, but that's it. A few trucks could ship out all the materials in one night in a coordinated operation. The manufacturing equipment could have been easily destroyed along with all the records. There's nothing difficult about filling a tanker full of VX precursor agents and shipping it across the Syrian border. The Iraqis were shipping thousands of barrels of black-market oil across their borders. A few additional trucks wouldn't have been much of a red flag.
3) They almost certainly went to Syria. There's no doubt that Syria is a state sponsor of terrorism, and there's also no doubt that they also have their own WMD programs. The problem is that it's not smart to fight a war on three fronts -- the hope was that a democratic Iraq would work to constrain Iran and Syria without the need for military force, but that's at least a generation away. It would not at all surprise me to learn that we know that Syria has Iraq's WMDs (or at least strongly suspect it) but that we're simply not in a position to do anything about it. - pintomp3, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8are these right-wing bloggers and pundits liars or delusional? they seem to spend an enormous amount of time trying to convince us the sky is pink.
- Mtdewrulz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@thedragon
Why shouldn't we be motivated by dollar signs? We only have a certain amount of money that can be used to try and help solve global problems.... doesn't it make sense to use that money to bring about the most good for the most amount of people? If you have about 17 minutes then I highly recommend the video that I shall link. It's a talk by a Danish economist named Bjorn Lomborg at the 2005 TED conference.
http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/62 - wowsah156, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7The thing about Melanie Phillips is that even though she makes all these crap statements she cant face her critics. In the UK she done a radio interview with the DJ James Whale on his late night show, but she would only do the interview if certain questions were NOT asked. And she chose the questions for Whale has well. Secondly she was too frightened to attend the broadcasting studio to face Whale so she conducted this bogus interview from her own home! Shes a total agrophobic! Phillips sole purpose is to be a propagandist for right wing think tanks in the UK. Thats her sole reason to exist. She is so scared of stalkers that she pays thousands of pounds each year for a limosuine service driven by a bodyguard. Melanie Phillips : scaredycow mouthpiece for industrial satanists everywhere!!!
- Pile, on 10/12/2007, -12/+15You know by default, most of the right-wing audience will believe this stuff anyway. They still think global warming is phony and that jesus is coming. They'll believe anything.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -8/+11Actually, I think the American people did that. The stupidity of the majority never ceases to amaze me. Looks like you joined the club. I'm curious, were you apart of that same majority that said the war in Iraq WAS justified four years ago? You probably wouldn't admit it now.
- dime, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4"I don't think this guy is as crazy as the article makes him out to be."
Especially because this guy is a woman. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Melanie Phillips is a British (media) whore and anal retentive.
I would like to lie with her and Ann Coulter at the same time, I would loosen them. - Hungryhaney, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Clinton did it!
LOL couldn't resist. - WombatControl, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5The UN documented the destruction of Iraq's WMDs? Have you ever read Dr. Richard Butler's UNSCOM report? When the Bush Administration cited that Iraq had 1000 liters of undeclared anthrax and the like, he was quoting what UNSCOM had said in 1998.
We know now that at least some of it really was destroyed, without the knowledge of the Hussein regime. However, it's still very feasible that some of it was shipped off to Syria. There was a large black market in Iraq oil that was being shipped through Syria and elsewhere. (http://www.ndu.edu/inss/books/Books%20-%201997/Imposing%20International%20Sanctions%20-%20March%2097/chapter1.html) It would be trivial to replace one truck that normally carries oil with a truck containing chemical, biological, or nuclear materials. Furthermore, at least one former member of the Iraq government has said that he personally knew that Iraq had WMDs and had knowledge of them being shipped across the border to Syria. (http://www.wnyc.org/shows/bl/episodes/2006/03/09)
I doubt this current story -- I don't think that the government would deliberately hide evidence of Iraqi WMDs if it would have saved them from all the crap they're getting now. I do think we made a good-faith effort to find Iraq's WMD supplies but that so much had been destroyed or shipped off between 2002 when it was clear that WMDs were an issue and 2003 when we invaded that we will never find anything conclusive. Saddam was no idiot, I don't think he honestly thought that the US would really invade, and he knew that it would be easy to restart WMD production once the threat had passed. Indeed, that's the conclusion that the Duelfer Report reached. (http://www.lib.umich.edu/govdocs/duelfer.html)
Did Saddam have WMDs before the war? I'd guess so. Were they a clear threat to the US? Possibly, depending on what he had, but it's not all that likely from what we know now. Did he ship whatever he had to Syria? It's hardly ridiculous to imagine that he would. Does this story represent any real evidence of that? Almost certainly not. - PhilLesh69, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3neoconvservative is the same in every country -- former communists who "grew up" and decided to become "conservative".
- Junkyarddawg, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Source?
- tracker1, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4@Axfire
But then again, there are plenty of people that believe that there are/were enough corrupt people for the Bush administration to be behind 9/11. - jquixote, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Far-fetched? Indeed!... Ludicrous? Maybe...
But, why fight them on this? Call them out..
Call for a bi-partisan commission to investigate allegations that the administration and the senate are telling lies to the American people. We will need thousands of documents relating to Operation Iraqi Freedom to be released under the Freedom of Information Act. If that is what the neocons really want, let's work together to make that happen. - betterth, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3@thedragon
"Do something about it?" "Fix it"?
If it were that easy, it would have been done. There is no fix for a global climate shift exasberated by human pollution. Messing with something as complex as our planets climate is a fast track to killing us all, and scientists realize that. Theres no fix all for the ozone layer, nor is there for temperatures. It's not as simple as "zomg if bush would just allow money to research, the whole world would be saved".
I'm not saying that it's a pointless or fruitless effort, only that there are a thousand other things that have immediate impact that we should be doing. We should be regulating household usage of gas and electricity. We should limit households to a certain amount based on their square footage. If they exceed the amount, they can pay a hefty "polluter" tax. We should legislate consumer electronics companies to build energy efficient standby modes that activate automatically. We should strongly promote turning off computers -- not "sleeping them" whenever possible. Steps like these could do more to reduce our global footprint that billions into research would. -
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