What is Digg?68 Comments
- stealthc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+44I'm in! I'll only Digg stories that begin with the letter ARRRRR!
- cambrown99, on 10/12/2007, -2/+35I'm forming a Pirate Party Diggers group. Who's in?
- johndi, on 10/12/2007, -4/+23It's interesting that when it's political that such a collaboration is considered collusion, but when it's hardware site begs for diggs in its forum it's practically encouraged.
- ghm101, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16Digg already has social groupings of people with shared interests; it is called a friends list.
Also, your private registered user only google group doesn’t give any air of liberty or openness to your activities.
How can anyone make a judgement of what you want to promote? - cambrown99, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13We'll hold a special meeting on September 19th. Arrrr!
- TalenKlaive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+14That's because political ideals and computer hardware have NOTHING in common. I'm not for or against any particular political party, but using a news site to promote your own ideals through a collaborative effort to "digg" articles is little shady at best, and at worst just plain wrong.
- Smoove, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11Posted twelve hours ago and no angry comments by BigDaveDiode? I hope he isn't down with a cold or something....
- MarkStrube, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6How has the government helped your commerce experience be more pleasant in the past few weeks?
And something else that freaks me out - you want to regulate the media? The FCC laying down giant fines for nipples and F words isn't quite enough for you? - Misos, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8This is a misconception of what libertarians desire. Libertarians desire a society in which the initiation of coercion is extremely limited and only used in extreme circumstances by the government. What libertarians desire is freedom - we are consistent about this. Republicans feel they should be able to control how people live, Democrats feel they should be able to control how the fruits of one's labor is distributed. Both are rotten deals.
We do not desire a society where it's "every man for himself," as many non-libertarians state we do. Charitable organizations exist to provide for the needy - they do this now, still, while the goverment takes our money and fails to provide for these people.
We want a society whose principles and actions are not decided by a few hundred men who mostly inherit wealthy backgrounds. We want a society where individuals are treated as sovereign entities that deserve respect, and where those who initiate the violation of that sovereignty are brought to justice. That's it, nothing more. - FTLJohnson, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9Also, the purpose of this list is, much moreso than the last list, to introduce Libertarians to one another and encourage them to use Digg's friends features... and to be discriminatory in what they digg amongst those submitted stories. Not to blindly click on every article that gets submitted. To truly 'dig' the stories they DIGG.
- MarkStrube, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5If it's spam, don't digg it. If spam gets dugg, that must be some pretty damn cool spam.
- FTLJohnson, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8by joining the free to join list, which you would also be free to unjoin at any time. (seems simple enough)
- ViperDaimao, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Don't knock BigDave too bad. I wouldnt have found out about the libertarian group if not for his inconsistant rant against the group.
- libertymls, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4The many misconceptions about libertarianism is one prime reason we are posting articles that will give the general public (and even lefties and righties) info and education on the subject.... if y'all would read some of the stories, instead of getting all wrought up that they stories are being posted by a group of folks with the evil intent to actually spread information ..... oh well, if you don't want to read the stories, don't. Your loss. Cant say we didn't TRY.
:-) - nreynolds, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6or original ideas.... but we don't really have to worry about that.
- Nonleg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4So hating Bush isn't an agenda? I seem to see a lot of articles from Thinkprogress dugg, and very few from Cato or the like.
- monergism, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I spotted your agenda in this post.
- TalenKlaive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6@zephc
"So what are your feelings on the Nazi Party?"
That might have been a low blow. To clarify, I don't really side with or against any major active political parties here in the states.
You see, to most people, my previous statement made perfect sense. But since I made a valid point against an argument you sided with, you chose to twist my own words against me. Oh, and correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't that one of the tactics that Hitler used to sway the Germans in his favor? - MarkStrube, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Yeah that'll be easy to regulate... right right? I know, lets make a law! No agendas!! Now, time to start on my agenda to pass said law...
- ccran, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@neo
Just rediculous. - streetstealth, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I think this is a very interesting development.
The formation of Digg parties was, perhaps inevitable, but it's fascinating to see how it parallels political action groups: Digg parties are, essentially, media action groups, banding together to promote releases they support through a common channel.
Technology's cool and all, but in my view, seeing the interaction of society and technology is much cooler. - Misos, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Your words show you do not know anything of libertarian ideology. Libertarians are not against group activity in any way, shape, or form. Libertarians place a heavy emphasis on the importance of the individual, yes, but that's because we care about everyone's freedoms and sovereignty. Libertarians simply dislike large government and the initiation of coercion. We wish to see the initiation of coercion minimized, and the scope of the government decreased.
Collectivism, which you also seem to know nothing of, pertains to societies where the group unit is placed above the individual. Online groups are not collectivist entities.
You may like supporting a government that can take your money to wage war in anyway it sees fit - I do not. I should not be forced to pay to enforce the views and principles of other people. - MarkStrube, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4"But when it is a group who wants to change the economic bearings of the planet or affect my personal civil liberties I think that is out of line."
Check up on what Libertarian means... they want to get rid of people controlling those things, giving you more personal freedom. If you don't want that, well, you should be pretty happy with the way things are going these days. - asdfasdf, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I've been trying to start a group like this for a very long time. (Look at the type of stories I submit, for example.) This is great.
- Smoove, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@ne0shell
What an insane rant. Globalists believe in world government, not in the elimination of government. They believe in regulation, not deregulation. State solutions, not free market solutions. Globalists are the polar opposite of free-market libertarians. Do you have any idea what you're talking about? You don't seem to. - Smoove, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@wangdang
That's ridiculous. Libertarians are generally pro-free-market, and fully understand the value in division of labor and economies of scale. "Individualists" who refuse to cooperate are idiots.
On a higher level, your statement reveals a deep misconception about liberty. The free market is about voluntary cooperation, not an individualist struggle of all against all. You are accepting Hobbes's premise that man is fundamentally a feral individualist, and that only by external force can cooperation be achieved. Libertarians don't believe that. If we did, we'd want an army of police protecting us from our fellow man, as you seem to. - Smoove, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"Surely you can appreciate that Libertarian evangelists are every bit as annoying as evangelists of any stripe who believe that theirs is the One True Way and others Need To Be Properly Educated."
If you really hate hearing people's opinions, why the hell are you frequenting a site devoted entirely to the expression of opinions? - migla, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2So, should there be no groups (and how'd you spot them) or groups for all persuasions and/or should the political topics be divided into subcategories for leftist/rightwing/laissez faire... ?
- eclectro, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Because we know that computer nerds have such wise and highly esteemed political views. That's also why so many of them are in office.
- monergism, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Other than high school level competency, what is the current slant?
- Kingy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4I bet the same people who complain about this being spam are the ones who digg the 2 year old flash videos and complain when people tell them they're digging dupes: "Diggs a democracy I'll digg what I like, its new to me anyway" - you know the type, hypocrites.
- ahawks, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Great... just what we need
- Shinta, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4I support any movement involving unslanting digg.
- shad0w, on 10/12/2007, -5/+6How is this not spam?
- Xevec, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Can anybody explain to me why the orginal owner took it offline?
- axiomflash, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3why?... Because if someone wants to promote CSS tips, that doesn't affect the laws that govern the way we live.
If people want to promote a product or information to Digg, I'd still consider it collusion but don't care. But when it is a group who wants to change the economic bearings of the planet or affect my personal civil liberties I think that is out of line. - Griffen37, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Actually, I think this type of organization and the influence it could have over the news people read is truly remarkable. Since any group with any set of beliefs could step up and do the same thing, I see no problem with it. It makes Digg work just like the US democracy. Very interesting.
- hobophobe, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I don't have a problem with libertarian ideas. I do have a problem with monolithic beliefs. The free market does not solve all problems efficiently or correctly, even if it does solve them. To paraphrase Mr. Show, if you ignore the cry of a hungry baby long enough, it will go away. You have to wonder if that's not the best way to solve the problem.
- KevinJ, on 10/12/2007, -5/+6w00t!
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Sorta...but ironic
Shouldnt libertarians focus on gathering people based on logical argument and not spamaganda?
Seriously, how do you expect to get respect if you are spamming with stories
I am a libertarian, I also hate spam - TalenKlaive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2@theotherme
Agreed, but I don't think comparing a hardware site begging for diggs and a bunch of supporters for one particular political party colluding to digg articles that support their parties agenda is something that is acceptable. - Nonleg, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3Funny how you only listed "neocons" in your problem groups.
- monergism, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4I've tried to be a Libertarian. It didn't go so well and I figured out why.
Libertarians are basically Anarchists with tall fences. Sadly the idea of "do as you please" and "don't hurt me or my family" don't work well as we are all connected. - axiomflash, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Mark, I am a civil libertarian myself, but regardless, every single 'libertarian' article I have seen on digg is polarized psycho-economics.
- theotherme, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4@ TalenKlaive
Hardware is more like politics than you think. There are die hard fan boys for all sorts of hardware regardless if the hardware has its faults. (Apple fan boys I'm looking @ you) - wicked42, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Libertarians STFU. I've read some of your BS on digg. (1 was too many).
To sum up your stupid thinking :Government makes mistakes, government abuses power, government spends all my money on things I don't want. SSSOOOO get rid of government and WE WILL LIVE IN PARADISE.
Grow the hell up and think of someone and something besides YOURSELF. Libertarian ideas can only work on a planet with 10,000 people NOT 6+ billion.
I finally see a bipartisan project for the Libs and Conservs. We should get together and beat some sense into the WORLD REVOLVES AROUND ME RADICALS. - SanchoPanzer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1The original Diggers were a proto-communist group in England in the mid-17th century:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diggers_%28True_Levellers%29
Please don't sully their good name with such trivialities.
PS Why do individualists have to hang out in groups? - ne0shell, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1NO I listed Libertarians, Michelle Malkin and the Neocon groups which have all come under attention lately by asking large group of users to promote agendas. If you know of a left wing group doing the same I'll be glad to add them to the list - I consider myself to be a paleoconservative (though I reject the false left vs. right ***** to be honest) and yeah, I have huge issues with the Neocons. From the actions they take they are either so far right as to be pro monarchy or so far to the left they seem to be coming from the right. I think I made myself perfectly clear in my position that I think it's wrong no matter who does it. I guess I could add the AOL blogging team and other corporate groups who game digg in order to promote.
- yasth, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Because most groups don't want to promote a particular thing. They want to promote cool and interesting to them.
The point of the libertarian group seems more to promote things that they want to use to teach others, or show others a point.
I come to digg for cool, and interesting not to have a group of people try to proselytize me. So therefore they are reducing the utility of the site. Now what if anything can be done about it is an interesting question. - ne0shell, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2I really have my doubts about this group being true Libertarians. Posting Mises articles which support complete de-regulation of business falls right into the globalists agenda. Maybe they don't read up on the economic theories of the flat earth crowd but I'm sure the writers at Von Mises do. I have heavy suspicions that this is a dis-info campaign of some sort and the fact Von Mises keeps it's donor list secret only strengthens that feeling.
- jellygraph, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2I wish they would stop...
its promoganda -
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