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- allenwrench, on 10/12/2007, -5/+103Guess the idea is to shoot for a few extra points on Tuesday- it won't matter if you lose them all and then some once it's in the news after the election. The NRCC knows this is illegal, but they've just factored the fine into the price, decided it's worth it, and announced they plan to continue making these illegal calls in the next few days in multiple states.
According to FCC rules, all prerecorded calls must "at the beginning of the message, state clearly the identity of the business, individual, or other entity that is responsible for initiating the call." At some point they have to give you the phone number of the caller. These calls originating from the NRCC start off "Hello, I'm calling with information about [Democratic candidate]." Then there's a 5 second pause, during which most people hang up. Then they start bashing the candidate, and only identify themselves at the very end of the call before they hang up. If you hang up on them, they call you with this message multiple times within a few hours to get you pissed off since you think it's the Democrats calling.
So they're basically intending to steal the election by breaking the law and they're banking on this not getting any media attention by Tuesday. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+64You fools! You've fallen into their trap!
It's really democrats acting as republicans acting as democrats acting as republicans sending out annoying robocalls pretending to be democrats. - Scruffydan, on 10/12/2007, -4/+46I guess it's to much to ask for to have good sensible and logical debates on the issues.
Why must politicians act like children? - Urusai, on 10/12/2007, -6/+43In Other News:
DESPERATE REPUBLICANS DESPERATELY PRETEND THEIR PARTY ISN'T SYNONYMOUS WITH CORRUPTION WHILE DESPERATELY LOOKING UP DEFINITION OF "SYNONYMOUS" - actorboy, on 10/12/2007, -4/+32If it's skewed, it's skewed by the readership. Democracy in action.
I guess you could bus in readers from other websites. - poxonyou, on 10/12/2007, -8/+30Details of this happening elsewhere:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/11/5/191647/511
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/ is also following this closely.
Massive media email contact list:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/6/15/34322/4810
How to fight back (from a PBX engineer):
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/11/5/212753/967
How to record the calls:
http://mathewgross.com/community/node/1284
* Contact CNN: http://www.cnn.com/feedback/
MSNBC: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10285339/ (viewerservices@msnbc.com letters@msnbc.com)
ABC: http://abcnews.go.com/Reference/story?id=54216
CBS: http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/feedback/fb_news_form.shtml
* Contact the DNC: 202-863-8000 http://www.democrats.org/page/s/contact
* Complain to the FCC: 202-418-1440, phone; 202-418-0232, fax.
* Yell at the NRCC 202-479-7000
* 1-866-OUR VOTE and get in the database if you get this kind of harassment - nonsequitor, on 10/12/2007, -1/+23Mr. carapi, what you've just posted is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read to it. I award you no diggs and may God have mercy on your soul.
- deesnutz, on 10/12/2007, -5/+24The Republican Party has now fallen to the category of
the parasites eating the ***** that my shoe just stepped in.
But hey, I guess when they realized that they've become so pathetic and desperate. There really isn't anything. That they could do that would degrade themselves even further.
Right now, Mark Foley looks like an angel compared to the Republican party as a whole. So much for the party 'of morals and ethics". Yeah, right!
Here's the new logo for the Republican party in 2006 & 2008 ...
http://www.democratgiftshop.com/cgi-bin/store/store.cgi/571511948/liberal_shop/375913 - Anth, on 10/12/2007, -5/+22Uh. The fine for the estimated 200,000 calls at $5,000 each is One Billion Dollars. $1,000,000,000. I dont think the NRCC has that in their budget.
The real question is can GW issue a pardon for a fine like this? This would have the unfortunate side effect of basically make laws like this meaningless for the party in charge. - ricree, on 10/12/2007, -3/+18@Scruffydan
Because unfortunately, there seem to be a lot of idiots who fall for it. - altjeringa, on 10/12/2007, -6/+20If you'd have pointed to an article that said the Deomocrats were doing this I woudn't have burried you. But stupid inflamatory statements don't do anybody any good. Be inflamatory all you like but please if you're going to start a flame, use some fuel. :)
- everfalling, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16a superb response! full of citation, facts and unbiased opinion! and not once stooping to low brow insults! bravo sir, bravo!
- hotwawu, on 10/12/2007, -8/+22There is a huge discussion of this tactic (of Robocalling people pretending to be the Democratic candidate) on Daily Kos. Take a look at http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/11/5/19137/4311
- Crizack, on 10/12/2007, -8/+22I actually got one of these calls today. Nice try Republicans.
- Tweekster, on 10/12/2007, -6/+17hell even the republicans actual pro republican message do that random call back for hours. and the democrats software too. its annoying as ***** by both parties.
- nreynolds, on 10/12/2007, -6/+17classy move guys. classy move....
- altjeringa, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12The story is about robocalls that intentionally mislead the person who answers the phone. Think the idea goes something like this. Most people hang up on a robo call within 5 seconds of picking up. If in 5 seconds all you hear is "We'd like to tell you something about candidate X" The seathing hatred you feel toward the caller who you believe to be Candidate X may make you not vote for candidate X ( if you're stupid ). If you are really stupid and actually listen to the call then you'll hear a bunch of bad things about Candidate X which given your low IQ you will likely believe. I can assure you the Democrats aren't making calls like this, they are listening to them. ;)
- everfalling, on 10/12/2007, -4/+14digg down plz. thanks
- bitcloud, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11The day people stop being shocked by dirty politics in a democracy is the day you cease to have a democracy.
- ahknight, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12I'm still shocked, but we haven't had a democracy for about six years now so it's not that.
- Berkana, on 10/12/2007, -5/+14I am so damn sick of the republicans now. Really. So damn sick of them. What's a conservative to do? I won't vote for candidates that are opposed to my values, (and in general, that's the Dems) but I detest the Republicans, because they've proven themselves to be rotten at every turn. May the republicans burn with guilt and shame for ruining true conservativism in the United states.
- altjeringa, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11it was a joke. i thought on a tech heavy site people might laugh. ;) and yes my typing cusks....
- brendanc, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13Not to fuel the fire or feed the trolls, but many people in the tech world (especially the web tech world) are going to be leaning towards a more liberal ideal.
There are several reasons for this, the biggest, most likely, is Net Neutrality. It's a very hot-button issue and it will affect everyone who works with the web for their job. (I am a web developer for a very small company in Northern Virginia, and I know it will affect us)
However, if you really go to digg for "unbiased" political discussions, you have a slight problem. Digg shouldn't at all be your only source for political opinion. Opinions are subjective, and as such, you should look for more sources if you want to balance out the spectrum you're in view of.
Just my two cents. - altjeringa, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11Cite sources, please.
- ZenMojo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10Why do people keep blaming the Democrats for ***** Republicans are doing? I swear, every ***** Republican article about underhanded voting tactics and tampering becomes, "See, that's the problem with the 2-party system!"
- everfalling, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9"This does not say that the Republicans are misleading."
o rly?
quote from article: "Bruce Jacobson, a software engineer from Ardmore, Pa., received three prerecorded messages in four hours. Each began, "Hello, I'm calling with information about Lois Murphy," the Democrat running against two-term incumbent Rep. Jim Gerlach in the Philadelphia-area district.
"Basically, they go on to slam Lois," said Jacobson, who has filed a complaint with the FCC because the source of the call isn't immediately known."
Jim Gerlach is a republican, and this quote directly states the call is misleading and inflammatory.
also:
"In North Carolina's 11th Congressional District, Republicans are going after challenger Heath Shuler, whose campaign said the calls are coming as late as 2:30 a.m." - ardenr, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Trolling at its finest at work. Yes, we do all know the Democrats aren't great and do underhanded things... But only Republicans can make me question my faith in Democracy. Then they whine and bitch about "partisan hacks" while spouting retorts like "wacko-lib" and never, ever stating sources... Then they call all liberals pussies and cry-babies. I've see blatant evidence of serious trolling on Digg, and they still can't get an anti-Democrat story on the front page... So they bitch all over the threads about how one-sided Digg is.
To make a long story short: Reality has a liberal bias, as do truth, facts, and with any luck, evolution. - Ludnix, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10@Tweekster, Digg is user powered, go make a digg on how the bad the democrats are if you've got a story on it.
- middleman, on 10/12/2007, -6/+12Dirty politics, how shocking.
- Tweekster, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7complaining online isnt a valid method of stopping the calls, report them for illegal harrassing activity. they will be fined for that.
- benitojuarez, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6hear me now and beleive me later mcatrage, that was funny.
- CandidateZero, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7This sounds like the typical underhanded stuff that comes out of the right-wing think tanks. Republicans seem to just be better at fighting dirty.
- bitcloud, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8vote for "nobody"
"nobody" will listen to you
you can trust "nobody" - megamahi, on 10/12/2007, -6/+11Thank god someone posted something about this. My house gets blitzed everyday with ***** calls from the NRA. Every day around 7:00, 10:00, 14:00, 17:00, and 20:00 EST. I want to call the damn operator and just get it reported but alas I don't pay the phone bill. :. Effing annoying though, out of the about 15 calls a day only about 4 of them are people we WANT to talk to...
- everfalling, on 10/12/2007, -6/+10(story about something bad the democrats did)
democrat: 'what? no story on this bad things the repubicans are doing? typical right wing media!'
(story about something bad the republicans did)
republican: 'what? no story on this bad things the democrats are doing? typical left wing media!'
bitch bitch bitch, all of ya. - faun, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5doesn't the US have a 'do not call' list?
http://donotcall.gov
Or does that only work for commercial calls? - 5hinmyoken, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6wow i live in germany, and whis is amazing. they actually try to fish voters by automated calls :D that seems pretty pathetic to me :D and i guess itll be common practice here within 5 yrs :D
- GoodBrain, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6I guess they needed to try something new since they got busted for mounting a denial-of-service attack against democratic phone banks in the last election.
What a bunch of sleazeballs. They better hope their tactics work, because if they fail, payback is going to be a bitch. Of course, if they succeed it'll be even worse for them. - SoLeft, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Robocalls are used by both parties. However, as noted in the article, it's the Republican Party that can't seem to follow the law or common decency when it comes to robocalls - they call in the middle of the night, repeatedly, and / or fail to identify their source.
Or, as in the 2002 New Hampshire Senate race, they use them to jam the lines for the opposing candidate's phone banks.
Anyone who wants more phone calls like this should vote Republican on Tuesday - or not vote at all. - JoCliMe, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Man, I get so many calls...from now on I'm gonna tally them up...and whoever calls least is who I'm gonna vote for.
- kevinkrejci, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I never trusted robots anyway.
- everfalling, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4wow. a flame over a blatantly obvious joke. good going man. like the insult on his typo there too.
- mtwolf, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3yep, political calls are exempts, as are non-profit, and i think it may be state by state.
- lilricky, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I would like to be the first to welcome our new robotic overlords!
- Kwipper, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Well that sucks then. Not voting means you're voting for someone, and yet none of the candidates are worthy of my vote. What the hell do you do in this situation?
- everfalling, on 10/12/2007, -5/+7republicans shifting the blame about democrats making up a story about republicans calling homes pretending to be democrats.
when will it all end?! - altjeringa, on 10/12/2007, -5/+7People still have phones home phones? God why!
- saigumi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3digg++ : Apple, Democrat, AJAX, Group-Think, Linux, Lies/Mistruths
digg-- : Microsoft, Republican, AOL, Thinking on your own, Windows, Honesty
The highest rated digg article ever would be:
"Democrat candidate develops new voting system in AJAX
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He's using a dual booted system with Linux even! Diebold
going bankrupt. Quoted: 'Bush will not win the next election!'" - DEEMTEE, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Interesting article. Last Saturday, I received a phone call at 6am on the dot. The caller ID was (908) 000-0000 and was from 'DNC'. It claimed to be from (a robotic) Democratic pollster and how I must vote Democratic, yada yada yada.
I knew there was NO WAY IN HELL any campaigner would call at 6am. I wonder if anyone else thought the same? Nice push-polling-like technique by those snakes. - omababy, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5@mtwolf - maybe republicans can spend more ass pennies...
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