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- oldhick, on 11/06/2009, -15/+59I know right? Democrats have had a super majority for how long now yet still it's the Republicans fault that the agenda isn't progressing. I'm sure the majority will find a way to blame these Republicans as well!
Being a Virginia native, I don't see our election as any type of reflection on Obama or his agenda. Deeds just ran a ridiculously awful campaign. In reality, Virginia liberals are pretty conservative. Deeds tried to run away from Obama early on and I think that really hurt him with his base. Then he focused on a term paper that McDonnell wrote. He never really presented a plan. Sadly for Virginians, there was little real debate. McDonnell simply ran a "don't screw up and say something like Macaca" campaign. Oh well, they were nearly identical candidates. - i23Photography, on 11/06/2009, -0/+44No way... Us Jersey guys HATED Corzine and we all wanted him out after the government shutdown in 2006, his hypocritical car accident, and his attempt to sell out toll roads to corporations... Not to mention he raised taxes and did nothing good for NJ.
Obama had nothing to do with my vote for Christie - novenator, on 11/06/2009, -34/+68Those 2 governorships are really going to make it difficult to get legislation passed in the US House.
- Hetman, on 11/06/2009, -15/+43Short answer. Nope. A little lonter answer. As long as health care bill pass I will be happy. His foreign policy is starting to piss me off. However the alternative is the GOPs foreign policy. Which started the whole mess in the first place.
- ajkrik, on 11/06/2009, -4/+24A moderate new third party that is fiscally responsible and socially (moderately) progressive is the only thing that is going to change this cycle of absurdity voters go through bouncing between these two douche parties. What does it take for it to be obvious both of these syndicates are run by polarizing self-serving losers? Will somebody PLEASE organize a third party?
- c010rb1indusa, on 11/06/2009, -5/+2475% of the US citizens cannot name their own Congressmen/woman. Most vote on party lines based on the current political climate. Most don't know squat about an individual congressional candidate. When Dems get cautious it makes the President less effective and less popular i.e 1994. The Dems backed away from President Clinton and got hammered in the midterms because of it. If they do nothing on healthcare, or even pass a bill with no public option, democrats will lose the majority again. If robust change are implemented by the 2010 elections, Dems can say they have done something and protect their majority.
- fiatjustitia, on 11/06/2009, -39/+57http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la- ...
You guys won some governorships? That's nice, but they don't have anything to do with passing new laws and won't have any influence over national politics.
The Democrats won another seat in congress and maintained another, and you Repubs think you "won"? - jimmysilvs, on 11/06/2009, -2/+19whatever happened to voting for what you believe is right rather than what will get you re-elected?
- FredFredrickson, on 11/06/2009, -5/+22I don't think Democrats are shaking in their boots after losing two governorships, especially when all they had to do for another congressional seat was sit back and watch Republicans implode in upstate New York.
- oldhick, on 11/06/2009, -8/+23I got to agree with novenator here. In VA, Deeds didn't even support most of Obama's agenda. He didn't campaign with Obama until the bitter end. There is little evidence that Obama had anything to do with the race in VA.
- DavidNiven, on 11/06/2009, -45/+60Inaccurate headline. The Republican wins have ALREADY made Democrats cautious on Obama's agenda. The only ones still foraging ahead full speed are Reid and Pelosi. The rest of the Democrats in Congress seem to have quietly backed off a little.
- cuervoman914, on 11/06/2009, -1/+15one is too timid, the other is too ***** insane.
- LackyB, on 11/06/2009, -4/+17I don't think you can ask someone to prove something and also declare their failure to prove said thing in the same post.
- BigGooseX, on 11/06/2009, -4/+16Reason why Corzine (Democrat) lost the NJ election:
1.) Highest property in the nation
2.) Plans to raise tolls 800% in less than 10 years time.
3.) Ridiculously corrupt democrats in local positions.
It has nothing to do with Obama or his agenda. - norwegianlegion, on 11/06/2009, -6/+18I really don't know how everyone reached the consensus that two local elections mean absolutely everything for the future of government at the federal level, national policy, Obama's re-election, etc. It's like saying a duel between two soldiers will determine who will win the war, it's just sensationalist, attention-grabbing *****.
- novenator, on 11/06/2009, -17/+29The Dem NJ gov was highly unpopular and wanted to hike the toll rates by 800%. The Dem running in Virginia wasn't a progressive.
The NY23 race is far more telling of the big picture. The district had not voted for a Democrat since the CIVIL WAR! The fanatics who have hijacked the GOP got their candidate of choice to run and chased out the other Republican in competition, and still the Democrat somehow won the district.
The polarization is not due to Obama and the Dems who have bent over backwards time and again to try to compromise with the GOP, who have proven that they only want to obstruct, derail reform, and attack. There's a certain point where this becomes appeasement, and the Dems will stop trying to be bipartisan. The negativity thus far has been squarely on the shoulders of the right wing. - DirtyBinLV, on 11/06/2009, -8/+19So the GOP is patting itself on the back for winning a Governors race in Virginia? They're *supposed* to win in Virginia. NJ was a good win for them, but look at the race Corzine ran. It was 100% based on job creation and 0% social issues. Incumbents in a bad economy are always fighting uphill, and Corzine capitalized on that perfectly. In the other high profile race (NY 23) the GOP played to its base, spent millions of dollars on, then abandoned their candidate because she wasn't ideologically pure enough, and ended up with a Democrat holding that seat for the first time in *100 years*. If Obama and the Dems back off of their agenda, they are cowards and they're going to lose their own base.
- aesthetigeek, on 11/06/2009, -4/+15Exactly which Democrats lost on Tuesday because of Obama's agenda? Zero, by my count. Which party lost out due to the Tea Party Agenda? The Republicans. They now have a Democratic Congressman in NY 23, where Republicans had held the seat for over a century. As a Democrat, I'm just dying to see more of the Tea Party agenda.
- ChuckDees, on 11/06/2009, -3/+14The liberal media really isn't very liberal are they?
The Democrats picked up two more votes in Congress this week. Not the GOP.
But they some how lost? Last time i checked governors do not vote in Congress.
This spin that the Democrats lost out this week. Is a prime example of just how unliberal the corporate media really is. Too bad this example will be lost on the right wingers who will still call it the media liberal. - supradave, on 11/06/2009, -7/+18In the national seat elections, 1 in CA and 1 in NY, both went to Democrats. The NY seat has been Republican since 1871 and prior to that was held by a Whig.
Explain how 2 governorships are a referendum against the Obama administration? - Thuktun, on 11/06/2009, -2/+12If they have no proposed solutions, what's all the legislation that the Republicans are constantly complaining about?
- pintomp3, on 11/06/2009, -2/+12Especially since the Democrats picked up two seats in the house.
- drmangrum, on 11/06/2009, -22/+31Way to not see the big picture Novenator. Republicans winning gubernatorial races in states that Obama had solidly won is a clear sign that people are pissed with the Democratic agenda. Gibbs can claim it's about local issues all he wants, but that's simply not the whole truth. Democrats, that includes Obama, Senators, Congressman, etc, were elected in large part to a massive backlash against Bush policy. The DNC could have put a retarded dog in a clown suit up for election, and it would have stood a good chance of winning the 2008 election.
People wanted the political climate to change. They wanted parties to work together again to create laws and policy that's good for all Americans. What we got is an even more polarized administration. - marx2k, on 11/06/2009, -1/+10Ya know...I don't see as many Support Our Troops yellow ribbons that I saw last year, but, I still see quite a few Calvin Pissing On * sticker, Harley Davidson stickers, a few NOS stickers and even a couple "here's the amount of miles I ran at the last marathon, I only tell you because I'm a douche" stickers.
How's that supporting the troops workin' for ya? Soldiers are getting ground to meat for almost a decade. Oh wait... that's right, sticker's don't mean jack *****, I forgot. - Number127, on 11/06/2009, -1/+9Exactly. Pay particular attention to what happened in this district, and ask yourself why the GOP had to choose between ideological purity and electability. I think that's a fascinating question, and one that conservatives really need to do some deep soul-searching about.
The answer, of course, is that the far-right ideology is becoming increasingly abhorrent to the electorate, but the GOP doesn't seem to want to accept that for some reason. They continue to try to move farther to the right, even though they've lost with that approach every time. I know it irks you to hear it, but they'd better prepare to move toward the center if they want to continue to be relevant in national politics.
Even Fox News gets it -- they've been making some big moves to attract the libertarian crowd in the last few months. - fiatjustitia, on 11/06/2009, -7/+15Novenator is right on the money. I know people in Jersey. They *hated* Corzine with a passion, regardless of which party he was part of. Everyone hated him. He was pretty much the Gray Davis of NJ, so it shouldn't be a shock to anyone that he got ousted.
- DebbieKat, on 11/07/2009, -1/+9We've swung too far to the right since Reagan. We need a hard left now.
- FredFredrickson, on 11/06/2009, -3/+11It's a sign of the times for Republicans. They have to get excited about the small wins, or else there isn't much to cheer about.
- btschul, on 11/06/2009, -0/+8http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_Two_of_the_Un ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_College_%28 ...
- Bagos1, on 11/06/2009, -11/+19And that ended well.
- Thuktun, on 11/06/2009, -2/+9@drmangrum
Sorry to blow a hole in your nice theory, but...
http://abcnews.go.com/PollingUnit/Politics/electio ...
"Just under half the voters in Virginia, 48 percent, approved of the way Obama is handling his job, rising to 57 percent in New Jersey. Most in both states, in any case, said the president was not a factor in their vote. " - Maddoktor2, on 11/07/2009, -0/+7When Governors can vote on health care and employee rights, get back to us, ok?
- AiR1890, on 11/07/2009, -3/+10Republicans just seem to be more interested in taking power, or taking it back. They never seem to have any ideas on how we should fix healthcare, or help people, or do this to make it better, it is only about power for these people. Then when democrats have more power they say that they are the victim, that there is a liberal bias in the media, that liberals are doing this, blah, blah, blah, and what about that democrat who won in N.Y, a area where a democrat has not won since the 1800s.
- fadeout, on 11/06/2009, -4/+11Uhm... we also just took a seat from that had been Republican since the Whig party existed, just because they'd prefer a Democrat over a right wing kook.
If you think that is a referendum against "Liberalism" I want some of what you're smoking. - fury420, on 11/06/2009, -5/+12..... Why would Obama supporters be rocking "Hussien Obama" bumper stickers?
The only people I've seen refer to Obama as Hussien have been from the right-wing, not left... Did I miss something? - rudsud, on 11/06/2009, -3/+10Because conservatives say so.
- BananaGrabber, on 11/06/2009, -6/+12Burried for the use of "agenda". Nothing irks more than when people say agenda like it's some nefarious scheme.
- belthize, on 11/07/2009, -0/+6You certainly can't rely on Wikipedia ...
Here's the exerpt about McNulty: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_R._McNulty
In 1988, Congressman Samuel S. Stratton of New York's 23rd congressional district announced his withdrawal from the race due to health issues. McNulty was selected to replace him on the ballot and was easily elected in what was then a heavily Democratic district, one of the few reliably Democratic areas in Upstate New York.
And here's the page on the 23rd district reference (linked to actually) in the above text http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York%27s_23rd_con ...
The area comprising this district has historically been one of the most Republican in the United States. Most of the area in what is now NY-23 has not been represented by a Democrat since the 19th century. A large portion, including the largest city, Watertown, has not been represented by a Democrat since the 1850s. In parts of the district, the last non-Republican Representative was a Whig.[1]
On the other hand further down that second page that claims it's been since the 19th century is what appears to be a list of all reps. In the last 100 years according to that there have been 15 dems and 8 reps.
Pretty self-contradictory. In any event there have been more democratic reps that republican ones in the 23rd in the past century and certainly more than zero dems since 1850. - fiatjustitia, on 11/06/2009, -23/+29that's right children, bury away, regardless of the facts i posted.
You're losing, and clicking a little red thumbs down button will not change the fact that you and your ilk aren't the ones in control anymore. - guitarcd, on 11/06/2009, -3/+9Please! How could the House and Senate Dems become even more spineless... excuse me, "cautious" than they continue to be even with the enormous mandate voters gave them in 2006 and 2008. This is another concern troll argument from the right, with the usual neocon Digg commenters here. Deeds and Corzine deserved to lose because they were lousy candidates, so the base wasn't going to fully support them, and the independents skewed to the less stupid candidate. Easy to predict.
The real indicator of what's coming is the Republican civil war that the NY 23 gave a preview of. The result is the first D ever in a district that could have easily remained R, except for the infighting in which the teabaggers, fundamentalists, and talk radio crazies are winning out over the rational conservatives. Any time you're calling for the head of people like Newt Gingrich not being conservative enough, you've lost all sanity and credibility with everyone except that hardcore 20-30% fellow Teabag-neocon-talk radio demographic, and I really hope a few of them finally wake up and see how far out they've gotten. - midnightliberty, on 11/06/2009, -4/+9Hopefully, before we are completely flat broke in a surveillance state with no freedom left and perpetual war for perpetual peace (oh wait we already have that one), people will learn that neither the Republicans nor the Democrats can be trusted. The Republicans suffered a legitimacy crisis after the past 8 years, now the Democrats are beginning to lose their legitimacy. Let's not turn back to the Republicans but instead demand an end to perpetual wars, our liberties fully restored, taxes drastically cut, and sound money restored.
- Kungfumantis239, on 11/07/2009, -1/+6No, not it has not.
The is simply the media trying to spin something their way. Funny how you sheeple are going along perfectly. - s73v3r, on 11/06/2009, -1/+6Basically, the guy was being a partisan douche bag trying to take a stab at the President.
- DebbieKat, on 11/07/2009, -2/+7Apparently, the analysts aren't aware that the democratic candidate running in Virginia was running on a platform AGAINST most of Obama's agenda and he was REJECTED. Corzine was just a poor governor.
- parabola9, on 11/06/2009, -11/+16The Democrats have become a protest party. They're great at complaining about the opposition, but when they have the opportunity to implement reforms, they have no solutions.
- ajwinder, on 11/07/2009, -0/+5They're voting tomorrow, assuming they have the 218 votes they need, but regardless, health care reform has been moving forward and 2 state offices going to the republicans isn't going to stop the democrats, not if they want to be elected. Democrats were elected to solve hard problems like this. And that's why the Republicans are scared ***** and angry. If the people elect representation to solve problems, and problems get solved, it's going to be very, very bad for Republicans nationwide.
- belthize, on 11/07/2009, -0/+5It apparently comes down to semantics and redistricting. The 23rd district has had democratic reps but many of the counties that currently make up the 23rd haven't. Those counties keep getting moved around such that they're always in a republican district.
This does mark the first time since the 1850's that most of those counties have had a democratic rep, but it's not the first time district 23 has had one. - marx2k, on 11/06/2009, -1/+6It's hilarious how quickly the GOP will eat its own.
- fury420, on 11/06/2009, -2/+7I too was wondering just what significance state governors could possibly have on national politics unless the party also has that state's legislature under control & some unusual circumstances happen that give the governor control over the fate of congressmen at a national level. (impeachment/removal from office, death, close or recall elections, etc...)
Did I miss anything? - Falldog, on 11/06/2009, -2/+7Good to know our elected officials are more interested in furthering their party than tackling real issues.
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