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- wherearemymeds, on 10/07/2008, -1/+36Thank you Diana!
Just curious, though......who ya' voting for this year? - ChessPieceFace, on 10/07/2008, -2/+37From the NPR article that the DailyKos post is based on :
"Regardless of his background, it was never a problem for anyone — including Republicans and Chicago's most powerful business leaders — to work with Ayers on Chicago's public schools. In fact, Ayers is widely respected in the field of urban education.
"It was never a concern by any of us in the Chicago school reform movement that he had led a fugitive life years earlier," said former Illinois state Republican Rep. Diana Nelson, who worked with both Obama and Ayers over the years. "It's ridiculous. There is no reason at all to smear Barack Obama with this association. It's nonsensical, and it just makes me crazy. It's so silly."
Nelson says her fellow Republicans "might snort when they hear the name Bill Ayers, because they know he comes from a wealthy family, they know he became a radical activist early in his life ... but beyond just snorting, I don't think anyone gives it another thought."
"I don't remember ever hearing anyone raise concerns or questions or concerns about [Ayers'] background," says Anne Hallett, who has worked closely with Ayers on the Annenberg Challenge grant and with Obama on education and other community and legislative matters. "And that included everybody I was engaged with," including prominent Republicans, and corporate and civic leaders in Chicago, Hallett adds.
Hallett calls this attack on Obama's association with Ayers and the Annenberg Challenge by further association, "a smear campaign. It's a political diatribe that has no basis in fact. The Chicago Annenberg Challenge was an extremely positive initiative. It was well-vetted, thorough, and the fact that it is now is being used for political purposes is, in my opinion, outrageous."
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?story .. - booksnmore4you, on 10/07/2008, -3/+35Yea, those of us who are EDUCATORS and who, er, were assigned a few Ayers articles in graduate school, are shaking our heads over here. Whatever Ayers was in the 60s, he is a rare-to-find outstanding educator and scholar today.
- tcbishop12, on 10/07/2008, -3/+32As the McCain campaign continues its steep nosedive, they are desperate to smear Barack and try to build on their lies about his religion, insinuate that Barack Obama has a deep relationship with William Ayers. William Ayers was once a member of a radical group in the 1960s.
The Truth: Barack Obama lived in the same area of Chicago as Ayers, and Ayers has been a politically active member of that community for years.
Considering that, it’s actually remarkable how little the two have to do with each other.
Early in Barack Obama’s career, he attended one reception in his honor at Ayers’s house.
They also were separately asked by a charitable organization comprised of prominent Republicans and Democrats - to serve on that organization’s board.
And that’s it.
There’s no friendship between the two, no relationship, no history of working together.
This whole manufactured issue was already hashed over in the primary, but the failing McCain campaign, desperate to change the subject from the state of the United States and the unpopularity of McCain's policies, are trying to revive this discredited attack once again.
If you believe we should get beyond the battles of the 60s to meet the challenges of the 21st century, reject these tired attacks and spread the truth.
The Truth Fights Back site will hook you up: http://www.truthfightsback.com/site/smear/253/ - paintgrl, on 10/07/2008, -1/+29From the NPR article:
FTA:It was never a concern by any of us in the Chicago school reform movement that he had led a fugitive life years earlier," said former Illinois state Republican Rep. Diana Nelson, who worked with both Obama and Ayers over the years. "It's ridiculous. There is no reason at all to smear Barack Obama with this association. It's nonsensical, and it just makes me crazy. It's so silly."
Nelson says her fellow Republicans "might snort when they hear the name Bill Ayers, because they know he comes from a wealthy family, they know he became a radical activist early in his life ... but beyond just snorting, I don't think anyone gives it another thought."
"I don't remember ever hearing anyone raise concerns or questions or concerns about [Ayers'] background," says Anne Hallett, who has worked closely with Ayers on the Annenberg Challenge grant and with Obama on education and other community and legislative matters. "And that included everybody I was engaged with," including prominent Republicans, and corporate and civic leaders in Chicago, Hallett adds.
Hallett calls this attack on Obama's association with Ayers and the Annenberg Challenge by further association, "a smear campaign. It's a political diatribe that has no basis in fact. The Chicago Annenberg Challenge was an extremely positive initiative. It was well-vetted, thorough, and the fact that it is now is being used for political purposes is, in my opinion, outrageous." - Echota, on 01/05/2009, -2/+27Obama has always been clear and truthful about Ayers.
But we knew that already,didn't we!
Obama/Biden 08! - niradg, on 10/07/2008, -2/+17This woman needs to give some interviews!
- datajl, on 10/07/2008, -2/+15Dugg. And as for SpenderH and bennny; both of yaw are freakin retarded.
your freakin racist admit it! - jstreveln, on 10/07/2008, -0/+12no the real issue is why did mccain pick a secessionist as a running mate? some one who hates our country so much she and her family belonged to a group that wants to secede from the US.you do know what that means?secede?like the south did ?civil war ring any bells?as in a traitor.she even spoke at one of their dinners.not when she was 27,but last year.and told them the were doing a fine job.
- ChessPieceFace, on 10/07/2008, -0/+12Munged the link.. try this one: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?story ...
- inactive, on 10/08/2008, -0/+9Please tell us who all of your neighbors are so we can judge you by their actions.
- Echota, on 01/05/2009, -0/+8rofl!!
- algaeturd, on 10/08/2008, -1/+9Awesome. At least not all of the republicans are high school dropouts and understand fact from fiction.
- grillcover, on 10/07/2008, -2/+9Our justice system is based on the notion that people can reform. It's how our penal system is structured. Look at Ayers' life and works-- his work in education and his redirected passions (as in, away from blowing things up and toward nurturing the minds of the youth) is proof enough to me and just about every rational American that he has reformed.
Get past your juvenile desire for "justice" in the punitive sense, and embrace the good in a misguided man's personal reform and good deeds. - progressiveEC, on 10/08/2008, -0/+6Barack was the president of the Law Review at Harvard. So regardless of how he got there he didn't finish five from the bottom in the class
- nihilville, on 10/08/2008, -0/+5But she did attend their events...
And here she seemed pretty supportive of them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwvPNXYrIyI - absurdist, on 10/08/2008, -0/+4Jesus Tapdancing Christ...
Are you going to post that same blithering drivel in EVERY Obama-related thread? - JumpingJack79, on 10/08/2008, -0/+3But he did graduate magna cum laude, which means top of his class.
This notion that Obama got accepted at Harvard because he (as a student!) had ties to some Saudi prince is probably total BS. Why would a Saudi prince want to "sponsor" some random black kid in Chicago? A plot to make him become president and make America muslim and bring terrorists into the US? Yeah, sure. And the next thing you'll say is that his Harvard education was sponsored by Al Qaeda, back when it didn't even exist. Well, another day another new conspiracy theory, I guess...
What's interesting though is that you would somehow disqualify Obama because he allegedly got accepted (and perhaps even graduated) at college because of someone he new. Why don't you then disqualify McCain as well? He didn't have to go as far as Saudi Arabia to get a sponsor - what got him into and through the Navy Academy were his father and grandfather (and not, for example, being a good student). - JumpingJack79, on 10/08/2008, -0/+21. Ayers never killed anybody.
2. 40 years ago he and the group set up a bomb to protest against the Vietnam war (a stupid war that killed more than 2 million people). That war has since ended, so he has no more reason to protest (well, he could have against the invasion of Iraq, which is similarly stupid and unnecessary and illegal in terms of the international law, but apparently he didn't).
3. He has lived among people ever since, has had a normal career, is a respected professional, and has never been a threat to anybody.
On what basis do you STILL label him a terrorist?
And what does Obama have to do with his actions from 40 years ago, other than knowing the man who has been a perfectly normal citizen since long before Obama met him? - fiatjustitia, on 10/08/2008, -0/+1Don't bother- these ***** get their criminal justice education from television.
- 140Suffolk, on 10/11/2008, -0/+1Thank you Rep Nelson for your stupid opinion. We will make up our own minds.
Ayers hates America, strongly feels it should be torn down to the ground. He used to work towards this with bombs, Now he works towards this by "reforming" education.
How? By pushing the idea that teachers should be community organizers.
By steering funds towards groups that divide us more and more by category: black, hispanic, native american. By steering funds towards groups and people that work to increase people's feelings of grievance.
And Barack is right there with him. - bongfarmer, on 10/08/2008, -0/+1There is a reason, its an effective strategy to rile up dumb people
- nihilville, on 10/10/2008, -0/+1So I guess she's in competition with her husband?
Every night, staring at each other across an insurmountable and diametrically opposed divide of political difference?
Ha Ha Ha... Sucks to be in their marriage! - onthetrail, on 10/08/2008, -1/+1Total crap you are low!
- SpenderH, on 10/08/2008, -3/+0And she called them "competition".
- SpenderH, on 10/08/2008, -5/+0I'm not saying he got bad grades. And the president of the law review is not selected by grades, so your assumption is unfounded.
- SpenderH, on 10/08/2008, -6/+0I'd tell you their names, but I'm more worried that you will judge them by my actions.
But seriously, if I have a coming-out party at their house, and they recruite me into their liberal programs, you can judge me by their actions. And my original post is not about Ayers, it is about a radical who pulled strings to get Obama into Harvard. I never alleged that Obama lived near al-Mansour. - SpenderH, on 10/08/2008, -8/+2Come on. You know the truth is that Sarah Palin was never a member of the Separatist party.
- bennny, on 10/07/2008, -20/+3Why has obama lied about it then if ayers is so respectable.
ayers is a terrorist was and is he got off on a technicality - SpenderH, on 10/07/2008, -22/+2First I don't care what Illinois state Republican Rep. Diana Nelson thinks of unrepentant domestic terrorist Bill Ayers. Second, the real issue in Obama's past is how he got into Harvard Law School. According to Percy Sutton, a former prominent lawyer for Malcolm X and President of the borough of Manhattan in NYC, Khalid al-Mansour, a radical anti-white racist and adviser to the Saudi Prince Alaweed, called him and asked him to pull strings to get Obama into Harvard. Why does Obama have ties to a radical like that when he was 27 years old a living in Chicago? The MSM must dig in to find out! Demand it!
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