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- peaceordeath, on 10/21/2007, -5/+50A bunch of sellout pricks. They're all on the same team. Sick.
- diggerydood, on 10/21/2007, -7/+41Dear Congress critters: It's time to stop being citizens of the Democrat or Repuglican party and start working for the USA.
- dagnabbit, on 10/21/2007, -1/+27'Reluctance' is the wrong word. Try 'refusal'. She's flat-out said they won't do it.
- luke374, on 10/21/2007, -2/+21***** the politics of it, an impeachment would make a statement that you can't get away with all this *****.
- undergrace, on 10/21/2007, -7/+23I think it's atrocious that the Democrats are sitting on their hands hoping somehow this inaction will poison the '08 election in their favor. I think we should revoke term-limits (as in, definite time in office, not maximum time possible) across the board and have the power to re-elect whenever the population calls for it - especially with these ***** committing such egregious acts against the very country they are sworn to "protect" and "serve". It's ridiculous that these scumbags can lie their way into office and then sit pretty drawing their huge paychecks (and watching their stocks in their corporate interests go up) knowing full-well that they're untouchable.
The political machine is broken and pretty soon all of our mechanics will be Chinese. - WayneCA, on 10/16/2007, -3/+18The reason the Democrats aren't impeaching Bush and Cheney is because they wouldn't have enough votes to actually do it. You need two-thirds of the Senate to convict him and the margin in the Senate is only 51-49. There's no way enough Republicans will vote for impeachment. It's political suicide and these politicians care more about their career than what is good for the country.
What Congress should do is challenge the constitutionality of Bush's signing statements and reduce the executive power he's been accruing over the last 6 years. Otherwise the next President is going to inherit the powers that Bush has created and they're not going to give them up.
"Absolute power corrupts absolutely." - Lord Acton - Glofern, on 10/16/2007, -7/+21Way to go Big Eddie!
- pintomp3, on 10/16/2007, -1/+14exactly. it shouldn't be about the politics, it should be about justice.
- heepajunk, on 10/16/2007, -4/+16I don't need any more convincing. What I need is for my elected officials to do their job and defend the constitution.
- Kingfisherx, on 10/16/2007, -1/+12Realize folks that as aware and pissed off as all of us technocrats are, the majority of the population only marginally gives a *****. Take a look at the voting numbers for proof of that. If impeachment is going to take off we need more anti-propaganda like that MoveOn.org ad which was perfectly tailored to the MTV attention span and destroyed all credibility of their mouth peace in under thirty seconds flat (why do you think the neo-cons went ape *****). Nixon was impeached because the populace was made aware via mass media. Mass media is controlled now. So you don't have the word going far and wide in any meaningful fashion. This means there isn't enough clamor by the folks with the kids and the mortgages for impeachment. Think about it.
- skyh, on 10/16/2007, -1/+11"Otherwise the next President is going to inherit the powers that Bush has created and they're not going to give them up."
I think you just answered your own question as to why the Democrats would never do something like that. - wynja, on 10/16/2007, -5/+15Why wouldn't they support impeachment? It's politically advantageous for them to do so. Could it be that Bush's staff with the aid of their warrantless wiretaps has compromised our Representative Republic? Could Pelosi and Reid be blackmailed into staying in line? That is the only plausible explanation for them not pursuing a politically advantageous position. I mean Pelosi would be president. The Republicans would all be swept away in the next election when the truth started to roll out of the impeachment hearing.
- DangerCollie, on 10/16/2007, -2/+12If they focused on impeachment, their approval rating would go through the roof. They're in the cellar for not taking a harder line with Bush. That's why we put them in there.
- syroncoda, on 10/16/2007, -4/+13what does it take to issue impeachment papers? can anyone print them out and send them in? do all the work for the politicians and get them to sign it. then photocopy a buttload of them and send them to every member of the senate and house... you know... for fun.
would it work? - DangerCollie, on 10/16/2007, -3/+12I'd rather not be re-elected for doing the right thing than win by being a spineless tool.
I despise pussies, regardless of party affiliation. - inactive, on 10/16/2007, -2/+11No impeachable offense huh? Can we just pay some slightly overweight intern in a beret to take one for the team?
- gjscds, on 10/16/2007, -3/+10Reid and Pelosi suck donkey balls. They made a whole bunch of promises to their left wing base, and then totally sold out their own people.
Democrats--take note: Your own people are throwing you under the bus. - hierophantus, on 10/16/2007, -3/+10Fake critical thinking. Buried as knee-jerk.
- kaelyiesta, on 10/16/2007, -1/+8Well, one thing for sure is that if the democratic party takes the white house in 08, imagine all the new executive powers they will have at their disposal. It's like calling the cops on a guy about to turn over his house to you to stop him from installing that illegal free cable. If they attack this administration too aggressively for watching cable tv illegally so to speak, how will they get to watch it for free themselves when they move in?
- mattmoto, on 10/16/2007, -2/+9A local conservative talk show host here in MA, Jay Severin, has been calling for Bush's impeachment for a while. It's refreshing to hear right-wing hosts like him break from the party norm and call for what they believe is best for America, not what their party tells them is.
- yournightmare, on 10/16/2007, -0/+6Ooh, what about anti-war, truly-believe-in-stated-GOP-principles, wartime veterans like me? Can you put me down with broad, over-generalized insults because I'm anti-war, too?
- skunkman62, on 10/16/2007, -0/+6Ron Paul FTW
- scooterbaga, on 10/16/2007, -7/+13I want the ***** impeached so my taxes don't pay for their ***** after he's not even in office... Camp David, security, etc.
Honestly they should rot in jail cells for the rest of there lives... I'd throw in for that.
It's not about ***** "political positioning" it's about breaking the law and getting people killed. - carter1337, on 10/16/2007, -2/+8Politicians are the scum of the earth.
- MacEnvy, on 10/16/2007, -2/+8The legwork has already been done, you just have to support it and lobby your representatives to do the same:
http://www.impeachpac.org/resolutions - hierophantus, on 10/16/2007, -0/+6So the architects of the expanded powers of the Executive under Bush either 1) disagreed with you on that, or 2) believed no Democrat would ever be elected after Bush. Otherwise they would have shown more caution in expanding Presidential powers (worst-case scenario from their POV: a Democrat with Bush-like power). Just another example of their short-sightedness, either way you look at it.
- SaintStryfe, on 10/16/2007, -1/+6Here's the problem with Congress:
When the republicans controlled Congress, they had a very strong majority. Not a super majority, but their numbers, plus a few democrats who would vote for them would be enough to do what they willed.
The democrats currently have slim majorities in both houses. Even if some republicans do work with them, they do not have enough votes to force the end of filibusters, or to override vetoes. The republicans further intimidate their rank-and-file to not challenge the party line by threatening withdrawal of funds, even on things like SCHIP which are generally very popular. So while democrats have a majority of seats, they don't have the power to dictate the agenda as the republicans did several years ago.
I'd ask those frustrated for patience - in 2008 it's looking that regardless of the presidency, the Democrats are going to get enough votes to let their agenda be heard. This is how politics is played and people need to stop assuming that the Democrats are spineless simply because they cannot.
As for impeachment, the real issue is that there's no good alternative. If Pelosi pushes Impeachment for Bush, then Cheney becomes president. I dont' think anyone wants that. If she does both of them, then she looks to be the next president, and that's a political tool against her.
Again, we need patience. We made huge strides in 2006, and in 2007 we've been keeping the republicans from doing more harm. The goal now is to win in 2008 and make it so the republicans have to act like legislators, rather then tyrants. - Rodman930, on 10/16/2007, -0/+5So your saying all we have to do is get Bush to say anything under oath?
- vegask, on 10/16/2007, -4/+9Is it time to pull the "Call Pelosi's office cause she wants an idea of how many people want impeachment" thing again??
"Hi my name is _________ and I would like to register my support for the impeachment of both President Bush and Vice president Cheney"
Direct: 202-225-0100
Switchboard numbers:
1 (800) 828 - 0498
1 (800) 459 - 1887
1 (800) 614 - 2803
1 (866) 340 - 9281
1 (866) 338 - 1015
1 (877) 851 - 6437
I remember someone doing this early last summer, I think its worth another go. - ginjuro, on 10/16/2007, -1/+6Such as...? (really good discourse tactic. broad-based accusation without example)
- inactive, on 10/16/2007, -7/+12"I don't see a connection between this and impeachment," Pelosi said, asked about a newly released secret memo on US interrogation tactics. A moment later, she side-stepped a repeat of the same question by elaborating on her goal to "bring the country behind a return to an America that honors the vision of our founders."
"I don't see that impeachment is in furtherance of bringing the people together in that way," she said.
"If somebody else out there has reason to think that they have evidence that the president has committed an impeachable offense that can pass the Congress, please let me know that," she continued, "but at the present time, I don't think that the justification is there for that."
FIRST, to impeach the president the congress will be opening up a large book of tales, full of colorful characters and wonderous webs weaved from deceit, trickery and bribery. what we need to understand is that the republicans and the democrats are the same team. we need to really start seperating the teams into for the corporations and for the people. once we start pointing fingers at bush and cheney, you also have to start pointing fingers at other guilty parties. i think that congress understands that this is a nasty saga in american history and the longer we can remain silent we save face.
SECOND, impeaching the president and all other guilty parties means that we will have to look into other congressional member's voting records as well as contributions and such. we might be left with maybe ten men and women onthe hill that are not infected with corporate disease. which is fine with me. i am ready for a revolution on the hill, but many are not. i believe that the only way we are going to fix our current place in the world is by we as a people being honest and being smart and not taking it personally. we must be honest about our willingness to be ran by criminals, we must be smart enough to get the criminals out and vote public servants into office and we must be able to not take the critisism too personally and accept it as a lesson to us all. this is what you get when you allow your country to be stolen by corporations.
THIRD, we in america really need to demand the impeachment of the president and any other congress member that has allowed our civil liberties be violated in the numerous presidential directives andrevision acts. we must demand the impeachment of the president and any member of congress who willingly signed off on the use of depleted uranium and other weapons of mass destruction on civilian populations. we must demand the impeachment of the president and any member of congress that was involved in the stranding, killing and subsequent neglect of the people of new orleans. those american citizens are a message to any american that believes they are safe with the current government in power.
FOURTH,
IMPEACH, INDICT, IMPRISON
"The act of writing up Articles of Impeachment is not difficult. You just write them on a piece of paper,"
-US Rep. McKinney (D-GA)
Remember what Bill Clinton was impeached for when reading the following ten reasons why George W Bush should be impeached:
1.North American Union, Amnesty program, Killing sovereignty
The open plan to merge the US with Mexico and Canada and create a Pan American Union has long been a Globalist brainchild but its very real and prescient implementation on behalf of the Council on Foreign Relations has finally been reported on by mainstream news outlets.
The framework on which the American Union is being pegged is the NAFTA Super Highway, a four football-fields-wide leviathan that stretches from southern Mexico through the US up to Montreal Canada .Coupled with Bush's blanket amnesty program , the Pan American Union is the final jigsaw piece for the total dismantling of America as we know it.
2.Illegal legislation / Re-writing law: Patriot Act, Military Commissions Act, Wiretapping
The party line often heard from Neo-Cons in their attempts to defend the Patriot Act either circulate around the contention that the use of the Patriot Act has never been abused or that it isn't being used against American citizens. Here is an archive of articles that disproves both of these fallacies.
Neo-Con government mouthpieces and others are claiming that the Military Commissions Act of 2006 , which heralded the official end of the "great experiment" of the American democratic republic, does not affect U.S. citizens, only illegal aliens and foreign terrorists. Recent history of how terror legislation was used to target American citizens clearly indicates the legislation will be used domestically.
Buried amongst the untold affronts to the Bill of Rights, the Constitution and the very spirit of America, the bill also contains a definition of "wrongfully aiding the enemy" which labels all American citizens who breach their "allegiance" to President Bush and the actions of his government as terrorists subject to possible arrest, torture and conviction in front of a military tribunal.
The wiretapping program violates the Fourth Amendment and FISA and will chill free speech. The Fourth Amendment protects the right of the people of the United States to be free from unreasonable searches and seizures and requires court approval except in an emergency. As a bipartisan group of legal experts?including Judge William Sessions, the former Director of the FBI under President Ronald Reagan?concluded after analyzing all the constitutional and statutory assertions of the administration: ?the Justice Department's defense of what it concedes was secret and warrantless electronic surveillance of persons within the United States fails to identify any plausible legal authority for such surveillance.?
Bush is also planning to abolish parts of the War Crimes Act of 1996 that makes it a felony to commit grave violations of the Geneva Conventions. He is systematically re-writing laws that could make him accountable for previous crimes against humanity.
3.UNESCO and UN treaties
For reasons inexplicable to most sensible Americans, in September 2002, President George W. Bush told the United Nations that the U.S. will rejoin the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO), a wild-eyed bunch President Reagan abandoned in 1984, noting that it was utterly corrupt and the U.S. had no business being a member of such a group.
4.Destruction of the Dollar
Former World Bank Vice President, Chief Economist and Nobel Prize winner Joseph Stiglitz has predicted a global economic crash within 24 months - unless the current downturn is successfully managed. Asked if the situation was being properly handled Stiglitz emphatically responded "no,".
Stiglitz caused controversy in October 2001 when he exposed rampant corruption within the IMF and blew the whistle on their nefarious methods of inducing countries to fall under their debt before stripping them of sovereignty and hollowing out their economies. Stiglitz agreed that the process of hijacking and looting key infrastructure on the part of the IMF and World Bank, as an offshoot of predatory globalization, had now moved from the third world to Europe, the United States and Canada.
5.New Freedom Initiatives
Enforced and mandatory psychological testing and drugging is now a proposed federal law, to be done nationwide under Bush's ' New Freedom initiative '. Bush established the New Freedom Commission on Mental Health in April 2002 to conduct a "comprehensive study of the United States mental health service delivery system." The commission issued its recommendations in July 2003. Bush instructed more than 25 federal agencies to develop an implementation plan based on those recommendations
6.Real ID act
The Real ID Act essentially turns your driver's license into a national identification card. Or at least licenses issued by 2008 will be. That's when the program is to start.
Congressman Ron Paul: "Proponents of the REAL ID Act continue to make the preposterous claim that the bill does not establish a national ID card. This is dangerous and insulting nonsense."
The Senate has passed the Real ID bill, creating a backdoor national ID card. After weeks of activism directed towards them senators knew the full scale of this horror but voted for it 100-0 anyway.
7.Lies that led us to war
The Downing Street Memo and other documents prove that Bush knew there were no WMD before the invasion of Iraq. Bush's WMD statements, in chronological order, were:
"Right now, Iraq is expanding and improving facilities that were used for the production of biological weapons."
-- United Nations Address, September 12, 2002
"Iraq has stockpiled biological and chemical weapons, and is rebuilding the facilities used to make more of those weapons."
"We have sources that tell us that Saddam Hussein recently authorized Iraqi field commanders to use chemical weapons -- the very weapons the dictator tells us he does not have."
-- Radio Address, October 5, 2002
"The Iraqi regime . . . possesses and produces chemical and biological weapons. It is seeking nuclear weapons."
"We know that the regime has produced thousands of tons of chemical agents, including mustard gas, sarin nerve gas, VX nerve gas."
"We've also discovered through intelligence that Iraq has a growing fleet of manned and unmanned aerial vehicles that could be used to disperse chemical or biological weapons across broad areas. We're concerned that Iraq is exploring ways of using these UAVS for missions targeting the United States."
"The evidence indicates that Iraq is reconstituting its nuclear weapons program. Saddam Hussein has held numerous meetings with Iraqi nuclear scientists, a group he calls his "nuclear mujahideen" -- his nuclear holy warriors. Satellite photographs reveal that Iraq is rebuilding facilities at sites that have been part of its nuclear program in the past. Iraq has attempted to purchase high-strength aluminum tubes and other equipment needed for gas centrifuges, which are used to enrich uranium for nuclear weapons."
-- Cincinnati, Ohio Speech, October 7, 2002
"Our intelligence officials estimate that Saddam Hussein had the materials to produce as much as 500 tons of sarin, mustard and VX nerve agent."
-- State of the Union Address, January 28, 2003
"Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised."
-- Address to the Nation, March 17, 2003
8.Buying fake news and engaging in domestic propaganda
In 2004, several news stations around the country broadcast a story on plans for a White House advertising campaign on the dangers of drug abuse. But the "journalist" who reported this story was not a journalist, and his report was actually produced by the Bush administration .
The nonpartisan Government Accountability Office, the investigative arm of Congress, ruled that this amounted to illegal "covert propaganda."
The GAO said the Department of Health and Human Services violated two federal laws when it created fake news footage to support the administration's Medicare drug benefit bill.
9.Hurricane Katrina response
The event paved the way for the standard government response to a crisis - sabotage the rescue efforts, dominate and enslave the victims, then reap the windfall from the tragedy.
Katrina was a trial balloon for widespread gun confiscation under the pretext of a crisis. Every aspect of government involvement with the event unveils scandal, corruption, deceit and criminal negligence.
10.9/11
Bush personally backed the FBI off Bin Laden before 9/11.
The Bush administration moved to block transparency of secret bank accounts, which in part facilitated the 9/11 terror attacks.
The demeanor of Bush on the day of 9/11, doe eyed, unsure, taking the decision to read an upside down book about a pet goat for half an hour after he's told about the biggest attack on America since Pearl Harbor.
Impeachment and indictment is the only way to go to save America and democracy. Bush is a figurehead but we need to show the world that he and his handlers are not our leaders.
- fishwhistle, on 10/16/2007, -2/+7They are all on the same team.Vote for change RON PAUL 2008
- weebit, on 10/16/2007, -2/+6What did the White House do? Threaten them? Bribe? What is going on here? Something is going on, or else the Democrats would of pounced by now. Republicans wasted no time going after a Democratic impeachment in the past. What gives?
- skyh, on 10/16/2007, -1/+5Problem is, the President picks half of those people. THAT is why it is important. Loved the analogy.
- Wargalas, on 10/16/2007, -5/+9Yes, I'm sure you'll win friends by calling one their proper name and the other "Repuglican"
- Observant1, on 10/16/2007, -0/+4this why to jail first and start the trials later like theyed do to anyone else for suspected serious crimes
- yournightmare, on 10/16/2007, -0/+4This Congress has had more roll call votes than any other Congress in history. And apparently you don't realize that passing more legislation simply means more bloated government. So first you guys bitch about "lefties" seeking bigger government, then you bitch when they don't pass enough legislation. You haven't really thought this through, have you?
- RGWX, on 10/16/2007, -1/+5Do you use that on the playground during recess?
- NonZionist, on 10/17/2007, -1/+5Why would it take ANY time at all? Congress puts impeachment on the table, then lets it sit there till votes become available. Meanwhile, Congress can proceed with the rest of its business, whatever that is.
The threat of impeachment at least keeps Bush from starting ANOTHER war. Of course, AIPAC wouldn't like that, since Podhoretz is "hoping and praying" for "World War IV". Maybe THAT's why Pelosi and Reid are silent: AIPAC has ordered them to stop. - socokoolaid, on 10/16/2007, -0/+4Forget impeachment. Hopefully they are carefully planning to avoid impeachment to peruse indictment charges, without giving Bush a chance to seize illegal control of the country.
- inactive, on 10/16/2007, -3/+6Yeh they sold out, only Mike Gravel is the only democrat worth voting for
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDwgthg5CDM - Tangaroa, on 10/16/2007, -0/+3That's easy, it's Christopher Dodd.
- delafere, on 10/16/2007, -0/+3BECAUSE they "took the previous administration's actions up to the next level," for starters.
- Shaman760, on 10/16/2007, -5/+8There is no hope for the USA with ***** like these running the country. We need Ron Paul.
- shadowsage, on 10/16/2007, -1/+4I don't really support any of them anymore but it makes sense why Ron Paul has so many fans. Everyone else is crooked and out for their own good while he's the outsider that might actually be true to what he's saying. Things would definitely change with him in charge, though whether it'd be for the better or not is up for debate.
Regardless, you're right, the political machine is quite broken and unless someone figures out a way to change it, it's going to continue being a machine that doesn't work for the people. - ginjuro, on 10/16/2007, -1/+4Aaaah. It's about passing legislation. And the lack of progress on that front couldn't possibly have anything to do with a standing filibuster in the Senate on pretty much any piece of legislation brought to the floor (except, of course, for the unchecked shoveling of more taxpayer money into the black hole called Iraq), maintained not by the do-nothing lefties, but by the goose-stepping RIGHTIES. Interesting observation, Nick.
ps. Your web site wouldn't be just a little bit RACIST, would it? Seig Heil! - glaster, on 10/16/2007, -1/+4Remember that the German Congress voted itself out of business and passed the power to the Hitler. History has many examples where Congress relinquish power and gives those powers to a dictator, from Rome to ...
- yournightmare, on 10/16/2007, -0/+3"P.S. Using "regime" to refer to the Bush Administration is a dead giveaway you wouldn't know political reality if it punched you in the nose,."
--"Regime," when referring to governments, means either 1) a form of government (a communist regime, a democratic regime, etc); or 2) a government in power. In a previous post, you implied that there was no behind-the-scenes group running the country. In this post, you imply that the Bush Administration isn't in power.
So now I'm confused because I can't tell if you just don't know what the hell "regime" means, or if some other entity besides the Bush Administration or a secret cabal is running the show. Which is it? - inactive, on 10/16/2007, -0/+2 I don't trust Ron Paul either.
- inactive, on 10/16/2007, -0/+2Congress:" To the people of the USA who are not paying us gobs of money,
Sit on it." -
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