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- manicallday, on 11/24/2007, -2/+58The DVD is called Never Get Busted Again, and these pictures are from Barry Cooper's previous life. That's what gives him his unique credibility. As a narcotics officer in West Texas, Cooper was a law enforcement star. That was partly due to his work ethic: Stopping 30 cars a day on the highways was routine for Cooper and his K-9 companion.
"We would pull over cars that had college bumper stickers, because we knew college kids often partied with marijuana," Cooper says. "We would pull over 'Vietnam Vet' plates, because a lot of our vets developed a habit over there."
"I feel bad about it," he admits. "I would look for Mexicans. I would look for black people. It works."
From NPR.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?story ... - Facekhan, on 11/24/2007, -10/+63"Driving left of center" also known as "oh crap I pulled over the wrong black man tonight!"
- pintomp3, on 11/24/2007, -6/+47the police don't racially profile and they don't have quotas. yeah, right.
- duggtodeath, on 11/24/2007, -3/+36In our current political climate, he was pulled over for simply being a Congressman :)
- reddevil3, on 11/24/2007, -6/+33C'mon, hasn't this guy seen that Chris Rock video? Always have a white passenger.
It is disturbing how many black people I know have been pulled over for no reason. - abran1984, on 11/24/2007, -2/+25I'm a white male and I've been pulled over almost a dozen times because I drove "the same car as a local drug dealer" - i.e.: you're young and drive a nice car so you must be doing something wrong.
- inactive, on 11/24/2007, -4/+26I know it's easy for people to gloss over the phenomenon of DWB "driving while black," but we tend to pay higher insurance premiums because of it. I was stopped 4 times last year. To get to my job, I have to drive through a white neighborhood and the cops just assumed that I was up to no good. Once I got stopped for driving 28 mph in a 25 mile zone. The cop repeatedly questioned me on why I was "in this area," even though I had already explained that I was on my way to work. I guess he couldn't believe that I could have a job.
- eddie_s, on 11/24/2007, -22/+44Note that the congressman is a member of a race based group, the Congressional Black Caucus.
- Humptydank, on 11/24/2007, -2/+21Because the Congressional White Caucus is just called "Congress?"
- nblsavage, on 11/24/2007, -1/+16do you ever listen to yourself you lunatic nutsac?
- Totalchaos02, on 11/24/2007, -1/+16Prefacing your statement with 'I'm not a racist' and following that with a racist statement (not that your was particularly racist) does not keep you from still being a racist.
- romistrub, on 11/24/2007, -10/+25Just for the sake of unbiased thinking... who/what says that the congressman *wasn't* driving left of center? I'm not entirely sure how bad the state of racial profiling is, but wouldn't this have to be established first, before cries of racism are given any merit?
- inactive, on 11/24/2007, -4/+17Old people tend to drive in the middle of the road. You obviously have never been stuck behind some old lady in an 88 cadillac on the expressway.
Also, the article says nothing about being in a part of town known for high crime. Stop making assumptions. - marmanukem, on 11/24/2007, -0/+13Wow what a ***** racist ignorant thing to say. Why don't you quit the ***** KKK and get your self a damn education you ***** bigot. ***** reported.
- zombies187, on 11/24/2007, -2/+13He deserves to be pulled over for wanting national health care? You can't really believe that.
- inactive, on 11/24/2007, -5/+16Taken from the Best of Craiglist:
Ladies and Gentlemen,
Allow me to introduced myself. I am a police officer. More importantly to this post, I am a police officer who is sick and damned tired of dealing with certain things on a day to day basis:
1) Contrary to what you might think, I am not an idiot. That ring on my finger is a BA from Texas Tech. My GPA was a 3.71 and I was in fact the president of my frat (which means I got a lot of stories that start out "So, this one time, we were ***** up, and...). So, when I make the mistake of mispronouncing your name (the last name with 17 ***** letters, only two of which are vowels), dont give me that look like I just kicked your puppy.
While I may not be an idiot, I am human and I do ***** things up from time to time. When I apologize for pulling you over because I thought your tags were out, just take the sorry and be on about your way. DO NOT get a high and mighty attitude. Our state has over 5000 traffic laws, I can find one to help you get over your tude.
2) No, I do not have "real criminals" I should be out looking for. Did you happen to notice the ***** Harley parked behind you with LED's blinking? Lemme give you a hint - if you see a motorcycle officer, our entire job relates to ***** drivers. ***** drivers are the ones who make your daily commute dangerous (Or, a complete standstill, once they wreck out). With that in mind, shut up about the other "important" things I "should be doing." Believe it or not, I tried to get this job. Dont act like you wouldnt like to get paid to ride a Harley for 8 hours a day. But, the main benefit of this job, is I dont have "Real criminals" to ***** with. No shagging calls, dealing with domestics, and so on. My worst days are telling someone they lost a loved one in a wreck I just worked. Which, brings me to my next point:
3) If I was a dick from the beginning of the stop, I apologize. I mean that with all sincerity. I am human. If I've dealt with 10 ***** before I stopped you or maybe delivered a death notification, I may have done the wrong thing and assumed you were gonna be one too. Believe it or not, after my shift on the way home, I'll probably reflect on my day and feel a bit ***** if our interaction stands out because I was a jerk. Yours wouldnt be the first citation I've "lost" because I thought I was being an overbearing prick at the time I wrote it. We all have our bad days.
4) No good deed goes unpunished. I know that. But, if I give you a warning - DO NOT assume I pulled you over for a ***** reason and then lost my nerve. Just because I didnt write you for 7 over the limit, doesnt mean I was profiling and you should set up a meeting with my Chief and your NAACP rep. You complaining that "He stopped me for nothin, oterwise he'd have given me a ticket," is ***** and, frankly, is the reason most of us have stopped giving warnings.
Profiling is *****, by the way. You're hauling ass past me at 70+ mph. I have to see your speed, if you have a front license plate, registration sticker, inspection sticker and if you're wearing a seatbelt in the split second you pass me. I couldnt give two ***** if your black white or green.
5) No, you may not see my RADAR gun. For a few reasons. First, I dont have to show it to you. You bestfriend's roommate's boyfriend who talked to a cop once is ***** wrong. I dont have to show it to you, I dont care what you heard. Second, I dont want to show it to you, because I dont want you out of your car. Why? You may not know that you're not gonna attack me, but I dont know that. If you're seated, you're less of a threat and I like feeling as comfy as I can. Also, I dont have a RADAR anymore. I have LIDAR. If you're gonna act like a lawyer on the side of the road, get your ***** squared away first and know what you're talking about. Finally, you cant see the LIDAR for your own safety. You feel that way your car rocks every time an 18 wheeler flys by? I'd rather not get sued becuase your stupid ass fell into traffic and got killed on my stop.
While I'm on my good pal LIDAR, it has some neat features. It's a laser beamed device, so - no, I couldnt have gotten the guy next to you. It's got a scope on it, and the scope's dot was aimed directly at your car's grill. Also, it tells me the distance in feet that i clocked you at. So, dont tell me, I couldnt have gotten you from that far, because I can. Its accurate to 2500 feet (half a mile or so), and I can clock you, get two swigs of coffee and eat three donut holes by the time you get close enough to see my motorcycle on the shoulder.
6) Arguements take place in court, not on the side of the road. No exceptions. And, yes, I will show up to court. Even on my day off. I get paid (by you, thanks for reminding me) OT to show up to court, and I'm trying to con my wife into letting me buy a new boat, so I need that money. Now, once we get to court, follow a few easy rules:
Dont lie. My bike has a video camera on it, and that box on my belt is a mic. The camera is hooked into my fixed 4 way RADAR, so it shows your speed (if I didnt clock you with a LIDAR unit, that is). Oh, and judges dont like all those cuss words you used out at the scene...
Dont yell at me outside the court room. This is not a personal matter to me, even if it is for you. After this, Im going home and watching my Texas Rangers ***** up another promising season. You will be the furthest thing from my mind.
Guys and gals, we are the same as you. We've got a home life that might suck, bills to pay, college loans, the damned team that never wins (Tech losing in the first ***** round! Damn you Bobby Knight), and so on. We have feelings, personalities, and dreams just like you. When Im at your window, look at my face. You met a hundred guys like me in college, and loved em. I was that guy a few years ago, and not much has changed. Im still a nice guy, treat me like one and you might just get a warning. - manicallday, on 11/24/2007, -5/+15Are certain neighborhoods now illegal to drive through at night now? When did that happen?
- zombies187, on 11/24/2007, -2/+11Calm down whitey. Caucusing needs no justification. There's like only 10 of them. They are no kind of threat to you. The hundreds of other congressmen don't follow anything they say, especially yours I bet.
- Five28, on 11/24/2007, -5/+14Danny Davis is a racist himself. He was stopped in an all black area of Chicago. How can a black man claim "racial profiling" when he was in an area that is all black? That makes no sense. He is playing the race card, as a lot of others like doing these days. Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Cynthia McKinney all come to mind. Interesting tidbit from a Chicago cop: "Went to a "Community Meeting" at an MB church on the West Side. Guest speaker was Rep. Danny Davis and he looked at the crowd (myself and my partner being the only palefaces in said crowd) and proudly trumpeted that if he needs a carpenter he only hires a BLACK carpenter, that if he needs an electrician, he only hires a BLACK electrician and when he needs to buy groceries at a store he only shops at a BLACK grocery."
I can only imagine if I were to say that I only hired whites or only shopped at white stores. I'd be dragged before a U.S. magistrate so fast that my head would spin. - PopcornDave, on 11/24/2007, -1/+9Does this mean that the officer in question's car doesn't have a dashboard cam? Seems like that would clear this right up, unless they don't come on until the officer stops the car.
- petewiz, on 11/24/2007, -0/+8"We have found NPR to be the biggest bunch of lying propagandists"
We meaning yourself and the voices in your head that agree with you?
"even worse than the BBC."
*GASP* No! Not the BBC! How are they in comparison to Fox News or the other talk radio stations? Oh that's right, it's not propaganda if you agree with it. - kuzotz, on 11/24/2007, -0/+8There aren't that many black congressmen.. Those two are like the white kids on my university campus that bitch about the Black Student Association. While asian americans, and hispanics, and the international students can have their cultural groups.
And its the fact that the Black Student Association welcomes in white people that are interested in getting involved. Hell theres a hispanic guy that is heavily involved with the BSA..... While you have the Korean Student Association that do their meetings entirely in korean, and if any American dares walks in and has a friend translating for them then they all give them the stink eye........
While the BSA is so damn friendly to whites and yet it gets crucified anyway.. - insomniac8400, on 11/24/2007, -0/+8Too bad he wasn't in Indiana. In Indiana since July cops are allowed to pull you over for no reason and call the stop a seat belt check to keep it legal. All we need is one high profile person to be stopped for no reason, to fight it and kill it.
- inactive, on 11/24/2007, -0/+7That's great that one black American has to take the burden of an entire group of people. I hope one day you get pulled over for being a serial killer pedophile rapist since you are upholding that large demographic. Maybe you should change yourselves, huh?
- Humptydank, on 11/24/2007, -1/+8Just for the sake of unbiased thinking, a quick survey -- please respond to this post if you've ever been pulled over for "driving left of center," and if so, tell us your race, and whether you received a citation or a warning.
- inactive, on 11/24/2007, -2/+9STFU Pig
"DO NOT get a high and mighty attitude. Our state has over 5000 traffic laws, I can find one to help you get over your tude. (sic)"
People like you give Cops a bad name everywhere. - Humptydank, on 11/24/2007, -0/+7That's a good story, but whenever you ask a question that starts with "How many..." that's an indication that an accurate answer should be quantitative, not a story. There are many studies out there, but let's take some handy representative data, that of 2006 police stops in Missouri as compiled by the State Attorney General's Office (http://tinyurl.com/23t5o6):.
That data set says Missouri performed 1,603,245 stops, 128,377 searches, and made 94,286 arrests in 2006.
In general, even after accounting for differences in population size, whites (against a base index of 1) were only .95 times as likely to get stopped, whereas blacks were 1.49 times as likely to get stopped. So more than half again as much. But if you compare two groups against each other, blacks are 1.90 times more likely to get pulled over than whites, and Hispanics are 2.15 times as likely.
So there's the short answer to your question -- "How many white males have been pulled over for little to nothing late at night?" If you're in Missouri, only half as many as the number of black males, and way less than half the number of Hispanics.
And just for fun:
-- Once they were pulled over, blacks were also nearly twice as likely to get searched as whites.
-- But whites were actually more likely to be found with contraband than blacks.
-- And just to top things off, blacks were twice as likely to be arrested than whites.
So that's one particular answer to your "How many" question -- if you tell me what state you live in we can be a little more detailed. - gquaglia, on 11/24/2007, -6/+12Typical tactic. Even the mention of racism scares the ***** out of most people. The summons will be dismissed, you watch. No one wants to be labels a racist and the congressman knows that.
- demonsnake69, on 11/24/2007, -2/+8Boo hoo hoo, this "cop" doesn't give a ***** about any of us so we shouldn't give a ***** about him.
- gquaglia, on 11/24/2007, -0/+6No they can't. They need probable cause or consent.
- DreadPirate, on 11/24/2007, -0/+6What's the matter Btzarro? You lack the intellectual capacity to argue, so you just have to fling insults around? Your comments are nothing but drivel, and I have yet to see you actually manage to contribute anything to a discussion besides pathetic insults that only serve to demonstrate your intellectual inferiority. As a matter of fact, I'm willing to bet you won't even come back here to defend yourself.
- cliffzdude, on 11/24/2007, -0/+6How many white males have been pulled over for little to nothing late at night? I have, once in my old college town and once just a couple of years ago. One time the officer claimed I spun a tire, it was raining, I was sober (I do NOT drink and drive) so he wrote me a warning and let me go. The other time, I was "weaving" within my lane. Again, wee hours, totally sober, but this time he wrote me a ticket for wreckless driving. Judge threw it out, as the cop didn't show to court.
I'm light haired, white, and each time as driving a boring 4 door, slow as ***** sedan.
I'm not saying the guy was racially profiled, just saying that in my personal experience cops pull you over for ANYTHING late at night, as its an easy DUI bust if you've been indeed been drinking. - inactive, on 11/24/2007, -3/+9When all else fails, play the race card.
- dezman2003, on 11/24/2007, -1/+7Damn that whitey the racist *****.
- inactive, on 11/24/2007, -0/+5Oops, that was actually racist of me. My bad. Okay, assume the person being lynched is black.
- inactive, on 11/24/2007, -5/+10Inbreeding right-wing filth.
- b05q, on 11/24/2007, -1/+6i have to confess to a deep, hateful prejudice. . . . . against congressmen/women.
- demonsnake69, on 11/24/2007, -3/+8To take it a step further, people on Digg would try to find justification in the lynching -- calling the victim an idiot or that he deserved it or something. Then of course there would be people who go, "If a white guy was lynched you wouldn't hear the white community crying about it."
- manicallday, on 11/24/2007, -3/+8Trust me profiling exist. It's how you handle the profiling that makes the difference. The car wasn't searched and nobody exited the vehicle because he obviously knows his rights. He definitely benefited from who he was. If this would have been the average citizen, then yes, they would have been searched.
- jbmcb, on 11/24/2007, -0/+5I'd say it's even odds that the police pulled them over for driving while black, OR he was driving like and idiot and got all huffy that the "I'm a congressman!" line didn't work with the cop.
I know people of all races who have gotten tickets for incredibly stupid reasons - usually it's at the end of the month when the non-quota quota, or performance review, or whatever, is coming up. - inactive, on 11/24/2007, -1/+6Stay off the drugs.
- inactive, on 11/24/2007, -0/+5I agree, it's obnoxious when people play the race card, and I really wish they'd stop, because it's just hurtful to everyone. You play the race card, nobody wins. Minorities suffer, the majority suffers, race relations suffer... And then there's an actual instance of racism, and by then everyone's just so jaded that no one even cares.
I'm not prejudging the situation. For all I know, the guy was in the wrong and just decided to play the race card. But at the same time, I feel it'd be naive to just assume that racially motivated behavior never happens,.and so I feel we must continue to take allegations like these seriously, lest we overlook actual racism. As tedious and painful as it may be, no matter how many times we get burned, we must continue to remain open to all possibilities. - gwolf001, on 11/24/2007, -1/+6No, I honestly believe that I am likely to make a potential mistake if I don't the ask the exact same questions, raise the exact same doubts on the word of anybody - black, white or purple.
When you choose to *selectively* apply your logic (of being doubtful) you are being neither rational, nor honest. - Derrekito, on 11/24/2007, -0/+5No I haven't. I'm white.
- Comatose51, on 11/24/2007, -1/+6During one of my college roadtrips, one of my buddies refused to drive my BMW through Georgia because he was black and his thesis adviser, a black guy from Georgia, warned him against it. Black guy driving a luxury car through Georgia is apparently a bad idea. Of course this isn't limited to the South. I've read an essay by a black student about how she would get routinely pulled over while driving her parents' Mercedes. Her white friend thought her hometown was really strange and out of touch with the rest of America until they found out they were both from the town in Massachusetts.
- Zenas, on 11/24/2007, -0/+5I often get pulled over for no reason and that's because us whites are the only group who don't scream racial profiling so the cops know we whites are an easy target.
- Pake, on 11/24/2007, -0/+5Agreed. Keep the possibilities open and wait for the evidence. I just think the guy is going about it all wrong by making a huge public announcement before going to court. To me, the idea of gathering public opinion before the evidence can be viewed by the public is shady.
- pegisys, on 11/24/2007, -0/+4racial issues are a problem in this country, they need to be discussed and dealt with or things are just going to stay the same. NPR deals with social issues so it's the perfect place for educated discussion on the topic, to say that you don't want to here it and racial problems are black peoples problem may not be straight out racist but it could be considered discriminatory
- gwolf001, on 11/24/2007, -4/+8As usual, the obligatory "lets not jump to conclusions here"/"who knows what really happened" argument shows up in a story about racial discrimination.
Its interesting to see that such forms of "unbiased thinking" or "pursuit of truth" isn't apparent with other news stories. - dmistry, on 11/24/2007, -1/+5Racism is making judgments on people based on their race. Pointing out race is racist, its called reporting. The race of the officers is relevant to the story.
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