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- MrBabyMan, on 10/10/2007, -2/+25Link is to copy of the complete text. Boing Boing article regarding this text is here: http://www.boingboing.net/2007/09/05/psychological-tortur.html
- sdloveless, on 10/10/2007, -0/+16About 10 or 12 years ago I worked in a college admissions office with a Vietnam war vet who had served 3 tours - two of those were artillery, the last was "intelligence". He had some horrific stories about the war, but the ones I remember best were the interrogation stories. The technique he said enjoyed the most was placing the POW, stripped naked, into an upright metal box that resembled a large wall locker with a bucket of cold mud in the bottom. They would close the locker and then go to work on it with a baseball bat or crowbar or something similar for a few minutes. Then they would pull the POW out, ask him a few questions and, regardless of the answers, put him back in the box and do it all over again. Sometimes they would do this for hours. He told me the POW was very rarely injured (at most, scrapes and bruises), but the psychological effects were immense.
He turned to Buddhism sometime before returning home after his third tour. I don't believe I have ever met a more gentle, soft spoken individual in my life. Go figure. - otheruser, on 10/10/2007, -1/+15An injustice committed against anyone is a threat to everyone.
-- Montesquieu
Montesquieu = The most highly read and most frequently quoted writer among the founding fathers of the American Revolution. - petebert, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9hey thats the book my wife got from her mother on our wedding day...
- syroncoda, on 10/10/2007, -3/+11funny how the file pops up an activex script
- alexkorova, on 10/10/2007, -0/+7I am sorry, but anyone enjoying torturing people is a sick *****.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6wait, you didn't tell us what 1,000,000 becomes!
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5someone needs to write a digest of this work...like all things created by the government, it's bloated and verbose to justify the money spent to produce it and to enhance its authority and legitimacy.
- Bubba3236, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4"Reappears Online"... getting stuff removed from the "online" is a better magic trick. My guess is it never really "disappeared"
- RedHerringHack, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5Amature.
- weeeezzll, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4"You shouldn't post something unless it totally original and 0-day new!!"
So what? There is an article on the front page of BoingBoing right now, that was posted to Digg a week ago... (Darby "WE SUCK" prank) Who cares? I don't normally visit BoingBoing, and might not have ever seen this if it wasn't posted on Digg. Get over your little bout of elitism and get a life... - ellecon, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4A basic understanding of human psychology and physiology is all that is needed to figure out how to torture a person. Some primary school children figure out how to torture their peers with no training whatsoever. Evil is not difficult;all it requires is justification and a willingness to act. Methinks fear and laziness has kept more people safe than deontological ethics, unfortunately. Turning the other cheek without being Passive-Aggressive and forgiving those who have wronged you without any attempt at revenge is true courage. Jesus, Mahatma Ghandi, Martin Luther King Jr.,and Nelson Mandela are examples of extraordinarily brave men who have proven that there are options to vengeance.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4The reason reports are declassified is because the old methods are obsolete. Wars are about convincing the population that your ideology is better than the opposition. Modern torture is called psychology. The most effective psychological torture is Scientology braining washing. Convince someone that they are thetan stuck in a body and that you need hours of clearing lessons. By the time you are finished, the person will walk over a cliff of his own free will just to escape the physical entrapment of the body.
Think about it, where else can you find civilian guinea pigs to try mind control and brain washing techniques. Invent a religion and get paying clients to experiment on. Infiltrate the top with military personnel and you have an organisation that Hitler could only dream of. One person becomes 10. 10 becomes 100. 100 becomes 1,000. 1,000 becomes 10,000. 10,000 becomes 100,000. 100,000 becomes 1,000,000. World domination without lifting a finger and all done voluntarily. - jostheller, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Did you ask why they used the bucket of mud? I would think that if I was being tortured, I wouldn't be too worried about a bucket of mud...
When I was in HS I worked with this Vietnam vet at Walmart who held a masters in Psychology. He was extremely nice, professional, and one would not think he had been through anything like war. Anyways, we were talking once and I somehow found out about his degree and asked why he was working at walmart with a masters in Psychology. His response was (keep in mind this is what I remember from a conversation 10+ years ago) "I was walking with my company through the jungle in nam and we came into this clearing which was a trap. We had heavy fire from all sides. I was shot a few times but was still alive. they piled all the bodies of my comrades in a mound. I pretended that I was dead and just laid under them for a couple of days until I knew it would be safe to get out. I was the only surviving member of my company. When I got back to the states that really ***** me up pretty good. I got the masters because I needed to try and understand the psychological shock my body was going though... ". It was a pretty gripping story he told. I couldn't image pretending to be dead for days while your friends dead bodies are lying on top of you. - badjoke, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4It's "Deja Vu", by the way.
- aliengoods, on 10/10/2007, -3/+7The way it should be done. Thank you.
- Ratteler, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3That's part of his torture technique.
- danarama, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Sure they know deeper awareness and compassion conquers all. I'm not sure they ever forgave but they definitly found something more.
- jonesin, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4That link isn't working for me. However, here's a link via the BoingBoing article in the comments to the PDF http://www.filefactory.com/file/d82805/
- igyigyigy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2No, HE thinks he was being witty.
- edrift101, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2These are just a few of the techniques that our country is using currently, but remember "The US does not torture."
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1What an evil nation. I'd be ashamed to be called American.
- SJKat, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Look, all it takes is to go to a library. If a nut is smart enough to put the linked stuff into publication, he sure as hell can study the basics on his own from psychology publications. Those nuts are sometimes called "politicians" or "lawyers".
- Ratteler, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Now we might finally have a way to get the truth out of Cheney.
- AlfaSub, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2These studies were commissioned by the Air Force. This suggests that its intention was to judge the effect different kinds of torture would have on OUR pilots, not to be used as a manual for torture as is implied by the article.
Of course given the current fiascoes our idiot executive branch is putting the nation into I'm not at all surprised that it has been resurrected in a different context. - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2God. Don't tell us what you do every saturday night!
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -2/+3Montesquieu, FTW. A genius of his time...
- danarama, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1There's been 40 years of research left unreleased with ever increasing budgets. Imagin how sophisticated and brutal these techniques are now. Leaves me feeling sick.
- LungGravy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Question for any psych peps out there:
Does anyone know of any support for, or theories attempting to explain, the following:
"Clinical psychiatric findings in the same study regarding placebo reactors found greater responsiveness characteristic of individuals who are more anxious, more self-centered, more dependent on outside stimulation than on their own mental processes; persons who express their needs more freely socially, who are talkers, and who drain off anxiety by talking and relating to others. In contrast to the placebo reactors, the nonreactors are clinically more rigid and more emotionally controlled than average for their age and background. No sex and I.Q. differences between placebo reactors and nonreactors were found (83)"
If true, this is interesting to me. - SJKat, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1You know, the way _we_ did it in Nicaraqua was to just beat the ***** out of them, spoon out their eyes and so forth. Go figure.
- blacklotus135, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I believe thats to throw off sensory perception. Things get "weirder" when you're standing in a mushy liquid.
Try this experiment at home: Fill the bathtub, strip, turn off the lights so its pitch black, and stand naked in the tub for as long as you can (10, 20 minutes)
You'll see the weird effect of the water on you as you move - 3leggedHorse, on 10/10/2007, -1/+2Sweet now some ***** r gonna pay.
- rarson, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1I've never seen someone butcher the spelling of the word 'diarrhea' so badly.
- profpan, on 10/10/2007, -0/+1Those who are saying this was all about understanding what was done to U.S. soldiers, and not a study in how to conduct torture, are pollyannas. Google MKULTRA and you'll see plenty of evidence that the good old US of A was very involved in devising methods of torture and attempted mind control.
The ultimate conclusion was that the simplest methods are the most effective -- witness what's happening at Gitmo and elsewhere. Just deprive a human of contact with others, ***** up his sleep, disorient him and make him uncomfortable while he's awake, and you've broken him. Ask Jose Padilla. - SJKat, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2Or maybe you just have the attention span of a work-drone-tv-slave. Go figure.
- ramiro, on 10/10/2007, -2/+2These articles were studying what the communist countries were doing to American and civil prisoners, you bunch of asshats!
- rarson, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1I think he was being "witty."
- Psamtik, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0There is a German documentary about this called 'The Net'. It is by Lutz Dammbeck and also discusses LSD, Ted Kaczynski, the invention of Internet, and how they're all connected. Kicker: Kaczynski's codename during LSD mind-control experiments was "Lawful".
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -1/+1dukeeey- Alex Jones is a propagandist from the powers that be. Just realize that this ***** is using actual truths- horrific truths- yet he works for the very creators of this horror show. Do your research before you buy his ***** hook, line and sinker.
- COMCON4US, on 10/10/2007, -0/+0Torture by any othr name is mearly...
- Bubba3236, on 10/10/2007, -2/+0Chuch Norris isn't fictional, therefore Bauer is a wuss
- SJKat, on 10/10/2007, -2/+0If you'd bothered to read the paper, that's what it was all about.
Congratulations, you are a "brainwashed" moron. Now go watch some more TV, maybe this time the guy won't get the girl. - spyrochaete, on 10/10/2007, -4/+2Digg.com - yesterday's BoingBoing articles... TODAY!
Really, there's SO much rehashed BB content on here lately. Deja view. - tony134340, on 10/10/2007, -3/+1I'm glad the govt is done with all the behind-the-scenes torture tests they used to do.
Or are they 0_o! - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -4/+2I wonder if any of my college professors wrote any of these articles. I've gone through this type of torture... it was called my undergraduate degree.
- dukeeeey, on 10/10/2007, -5/+3http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1025207215019783053
- eean, on 10/10/2007, -3/+1They didn't have Internet in 1961...
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -4/+2With all the ***** up people running around, I don't find it particularly constructive to spread this knowledge...
- eean, on 10/10/2007, -3/+1They didn't have Internet in 1961...
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