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- 0Zeitgeist0, on 05/02/2008, -1/+13This will proof that there is no difference between the Dems and what the Reps stealing the election in 2000... The only solution is to tear down the current undemocratic process and recreate a system where the people, NOT the DELEGATES, will have the central power to elect our leaders.
- Lyk4n, on 05/02/2008, -0/+12If she wins through superdelegate manipulation the Democrats will disenchant all of their younger party members and they will lose those people.
- Szandor, on 05/02/2008, -0/+8Do we really need or want the Bush & Clinton dynasty to continue?
- Lyk4n, on 05/02/2008, -1/+5Vote Gravel..
- villageatheist, on 05/02/2008, -3/+7I'm voting Nader if she steals the democratic primary. There, I said it.
- shadus, on 05/03/2008, -0/+3The honest truth of it is, black, white, mexican, asian, whatever your ethnic heritage is... if you're poor or middle class both the republicans and the democrats have been pissing down your back and telling you its raining. The sooner people understand that... the soon something *might* get done to fix it... *shrug* but, at this point most people just don't give a ***** they're already so disenchanted.
- zephyr42, on 05/02/2008, -1/+3Can we have more than 2 parties while we're at it....
- Lyk4n, on 05/02/2008, -1/+3No.
- Lyk4n, on 05/02/2008, -1/+3The leaders of the Democratic party do have a right to have a say in what principles the party follows. However the system is way more bloated than it should be.
- inactive, on 05/03/2008, -0/+2Nazz, that's not the trouble. The trouble is systemic. For example, the Democrats and Republicans are automatical entered onto every ballot in every race in which they enter a candidate. A third party has to fight to get on each ballot, or each voting district one by one. There are many, many other rules that make it impossible for a third party to compete
- inactive, on 05/03/2008, -1/+3I am hoping she does "steal" the election. Maybe that will show blacks how the Democrats have been using them as pawns for the last 40 years and giving them nothing back.
- Lyk4n, on 05/03/2008, -0/+2It would not..
- cheesejaguar, on 05/03/2008, -1/+2Yes, that's it. Tear the democratic party apart from within. Bwahahahahaha.
- Lyk4n, on 05/03/2008, -0/+1Blind feminism only harms our country. I understand women still have some ladders to climb, but Hillary is not qualified to do this. Not because she is a woman, but because she is evil and nothing but old school politics..
- inactive, on 05/03/2008, -0/+1This is the Democratic Party presidential primaries. The Democrat system works with delegates. This group should be working on changing that through democracy rather than threatening people with 0,13% of the American population.
"Be democratic or else!" Sounds like Bush. - pseudononymist, on 05/03/2008, -0/+1People seem to have short memories. How long ago was it that Hillary was on the receiving end (and still is to some degree) of the barrage of criticism for her lack of authenticity, lies and failing candidacy (especially after Obama's 11 straight wins). Hillary supporters and Republicans were laughing at how much of a free pass the media seemed to be giving Obama. So why all the hoo-haw when the media finally pounces on Obama? It might not be justified, but that's the currest state of politics and media in this country--it's Obama's turn to get roasted a bit on the fire.
And Barack Obama needs this criticism now. It's far better if he faces it at this point in the primaries where he's already virtually guaranteed to win the Democratic nomination, rather than once the general election campaign kicks into full gear. It's giving voters the chance to see how Obama handles controversy and personal attacks, and I think most people have been impressed, even if they don't totally trust him; that lack of trust comes from a lack of awareness combined with media's need to sensationalize. But the good thing about sensationalism is that it can't last. The stories get beat to death MMA style in a matter of weeks, and then the media has to find something new to throw in the ring. The Wright story won't last, even if Wright doesn't shut up. He's already made a parody of himself, Obama has disowned him, and no one is going to be willing to get into it again. All that we should be focused on at this is getting Obama voters out in Indiana and North Carolina so we can put this silliness behind us. The sooner Democrats realize Obama is their candidate, Hillary supporters have licked their wounds and Obama supporters have made reconciliations with them, the sooner we can focus on keeping McCain out of the White House. - Gemfinder, on 05/03/2008, -0/+1Personally, I'm not especially worried about the superdelegates. We've had a rash of endorsements since Pennsylvania, and this despite Hillary's victory there. The national campaign knows it's going to be down to the superdelegates when August rolls around and they aren't letting the dust gather on their feet.
- Tralobyte, on 05/03/2008, -0/+1What are you talking about?
- wonderchemist, on 05/03/2008, -0/+1The price that will be paid is that McCain will be president.
- TrevaLVF, on 05/03/2008, -0/+1They might get the funds and more voter support to get the power-base at local and state levels to reach the House and Senate, which increases an alternative party candidate's chance of winning the EC vote. Give the leaders of both major parties more time to continue driving away voter support and the funds will follow the voters.
- TrevaLVF, on 05/03/2008, -0/+1They lost numerous Kucinich supporters who will write Kucinich's name on their ballot. No guarantee they'll have Kucinich's support for the Dem nominee. They lost Mike Gravel, who dropped from the Dem party race and is now running for president as Libertarian, and they lost his supporters. They lost Cynthia McKinney and many of her supporters. She's running for President as a Green Party candidate. A few decades ago they lost Ralph Nader, whose been running for president (and getting votes) as an alternative party candidate since the 1996 election. They've been losing scores of voters. (I'm one, now gladly non-partisan.)
If any Ron Paul supporters worried about giving the Dem. nominee an advantage by writing in Ron Paul as their presidential choice, I doubt if they have any cause for concern. Their revolution to either transform the Republican Party, or pull their support is still fairly young. The elitists running the Dem. party have been alienating voters and tenured public servants for years. - inactive, on 05/03/2008, -1/+1It will be more than a little absurd if Hllaray manages a Clintonesque theft of the nomination based on her "electability" given that the party will lose much of the youth vote and most of the black vote. How does that make her more "electable"?
- theNazz, on 05/02/2008, -1/+1There ARE more than 2 parties in the US... they just don't have the funds and power base to compete fairly in a national election.
- Tralobyte, on 05/03/2008, -1/+1Hillary '08
Hillary '12
Chelsey '16 - Tralobyte, on 05/03/2008, -1/+1A Hillary/Obama ticket might keep many young voters.
- kipani, on 05/02/2008, -2/+2we'll see what happens



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