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- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -32/+149This is an outstanding article, probably the best I've ever read from Digg.com -- People, newspapers and blogs--please reprint and share.
- axel2k1, on 10/12/2007, -16/+102Ron Paul gets a lot of my respect. But I think he's got it wrong. We're not "in danger" of dictatorship. We're, in effect, already there.
The Patriot Act gives the President dictatorial powers, and Bush has even said that, even if the law were later rejected, he'd enforce its use anyway. That, my friends, IS the definition of dictatorship. - Satanael, on 10/12/2007, -6/+71I believe this man just stole my vote... If only the media cared enough to report on him over the death of Anna Nicole or the Imus controversy...
- dogster, on 10/12/2007, -21/+83Take the folding money in your wallet and write on every bill
'Ron Paul For President' - betterth, on 10/12/2007, -15/+71This is a decent read.
Outstanding? Definitely not. The best on Digg.com? A horrifically far bet from anything close to the "best" of Digg.
My favorite that I've found on Digg was that short story by Asimov. Now that was truly spectacular. - Nydas, on 10/12/2007, -10/+65Ive already donated $100 to his campaign, and will donate another $100 after my next pay check. For those who don't have an income or cant afford to donate, just get his name out there. Im making it my mission to mention his name every time politics come up in a discussion. Let us win back America.
- Jeffmr1, on 10/12/2007, -7/+48Why do all of the Ron Paul haters always resort to name calling or pointing out the "really obvious Ron Paul conspiracy"? Now that i think about it, i don't remember seeing more than three comments opposing Paul's views with actual political arguments...ever.
- Uprising, on 10/12/2007, -28/+69I'd have to second that, it's an amazing piece, absolutely pulled me in when I read it.
- DocBoss, on 10/12/2007, -14/+53My Dream Obama vs Paul in the 2008 election. No matter who wins it's gunna be a party.
However this is just a dream as I know America is to stupid and its going to be Clinton vs. McCain and we are gunna get 4 more years of *****. - korbink, on 10/12/2007, -7/+44@lava
Bill Maher is a douche bag tool and he was an even bigger douche during this interview. Why would you ask about the Civil War when he's running for President. Don't you think he should have questioned him on current issues? - jnosanov, on 10/12/2007, -6/+42Most people commenting on this item agree with Ron Paul, and those that do not seem unable to even form an argument against him and his views. They simply dismiss him as a "nut."
Given the options, Ron Paul is my kind of nut. - warmonger48, on 10/12/2007, -7/+41Ron Paul: One of the few Republicans I would vote for: NOT A NEO-CON!
- ssjdoob, on 10/12/2007, -7/+39Sad, but most likely true. This is what a generation of federalized public education gets you.
- geekee, on 10/12/2007, -7/+38"My Dream Obama vs Paul in the 2008 election. No matter who wins it's gunna be a party."
I hope you're not implying Obama is anything like Ron Paul. Ron Paul wants to cut social programs, while Obama wants to create a socialized health care system. Obama is not much different than Clinton on policy. Clinton seems to shift her position more based on the latest poll, however. - danconia, on 10/12/2007, -6/+35Ron Paul is the man. Never seen a politician with integrity like his.
- ssjdoob, on 10/12/2007, -7/+36Funny how the same article from a blogger shows up on the digg main page with only 115 diggs (at this point), while the original article hosted on infowars.com never did with over 375!
- ShBm, on 10/12/2007, -8/+36Paul was good in that, but I hate Maher. He was such a douche in that video. It's like Ron Paul feels exactly the same way as I do on everything.
- specsaregood, on 10/12/2007, -2/+26That's funny; seeing as you have a potleaf as an icon next to your username. I'd think you would be all for a Republican Candidate that is adamantly opposed to the war on drugs and has an Industrial Hemp bill already put forward in congress:
http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/473/ron_paul_introduces_hemp_bill_US_congress
http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul179.html
Search on the internet for him and educate yourself. - t3soro, on 10/12/2007, -2/+24you're a ***** idiot if you vote strictly based on the letter next to someones name.
- Sendss, on 10/12/2007, -2/+23I consider myself a liberal and would have no problem giving Ron Paul my vote.
- williamdyer, on 10/12/2007, -2/+22@lava
Do you think McCain is still a viable candidate? Ron Paul is a Republican for peace. That's the only kind of Republican that stands a chance of winning. - BeefBaron, on 10/12/2007, -2/+22It is sad but true, the elite DO own us.
That is why everyone slaves away for jack all money believing one day they'll be at the top.
Till they retire and are flat out broke! - specsaregood, on 10/12/2007, -3/+23Hrm...
Ron Paul voted against the Patriot Act.
Ron Paul voted against the War in Iraq.
Ron Paul voted FOR going into Afghanistan.
Ron Paul voted against regulating the Internet.
Read some of his columns here:
http://www.house.gov/paul/legis_tst.htm
and you will find he is no follower of the current Administration.
And believe it or not, he actually VOTES the way he says he is gonna vote. The current administration is not one of his biggest fans. - specsaregood, on 10/12/2007, -10/+30Welcome to the club.
Ron Paul will be stealing a lot of votes once his grassroots supporters really get rolling. First the internet, then to the streets.
Welcome to the Revolution or Reloveution (your pick)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwRXp8ZMdNQ - macguy815, on 10/12/2007, -2/+20The current republicans are "neo-cons" i.e., not true republicans. Ron Paul is a true republican (small government, small taxes, etc)
- Jeffmr1, on 10/12/2007, -3/+20@thewaterboy
You have to remember this guys a Republican, Bush is a neo-con. Completely different. - ssjdoob, on 10/12/2007, -5/+22I know he will, but how could anyone put something like that into percentages?
- there, on 10/12/2007, -2/+19"Americans still have more liberties(though fading fast) than any other country on the plane"
Too much TV patriotism turns a mind to mush bro.
In the Netherlands you are free to curse the government till you are blue in the face but the government will still require a warrant to spy on you They have less police and military (per capita) yet still have far less people in jails (again per capita). They have no death penalty and don't use torture. They can get hookers or have a gay marriage. They can even ask the police for directions to buy weed.
By those standards... the US today is the fricken Soviet Union.
A few decade ago I would have agreed with you but today "seat o the pants" I'd say the US has dropped to the very back of the pack among first world countries when in comes to liberty. The "war on terror" is largely to blame for this but Europeans and other nations have also made great strides in civil liberties since WW2. IMO they have now taken the mantle (although I'm not sure I would include the UK in that equation.. since it appears to be becoming a surveillance state)
Incidentally I'm not from Europe (my parent were though) but I call a spade a spade.
The only think one might argue in support of the US in this regard.... is that "freedom" is a very imprecise term and not an exact description of a political system. Some countries are free in one respect but not in another dependent on the law. So if freedom means "greater GDP" to you... then the US is slightly ahead. However if freedom means more social justice (less crime, better health care, better services, longer lives, more evenly distributed wealth) than the rest of the first world is slightly ahead.
I'd be very wary of using wealth/capita as the only measure though. Did you know the elitist Nazis had far higher GDP/capita than any other nation in the world at the time? In fact the difference was significantly greater (as a percentage) than say the US and other first world nations today. - BrewmasterC, on 10/12/2007, -4/+20Ron Paul just gave a rousing speech at Iowa State University:
http://www.lectures.iastate.edu/lecture/3946
His thesis is that the root of most U.S. government problems is straying from the constitution. These are the points I picked up on:
9/11:
The war in Afghanistan was a token one. We should pursue Osama into Pakistan. Ron Paul characterized Pakistan as run by a military dictator who overthrew a democratically elected government, and has manufactured nuclear weapons outside of the NPT. If there was any country we should have liberated after Afghanistan it should have been Pakistan.
Iraq:
We wouldn't have been in this mess if congress hadn't violated the constitution and went to war without having a declaration of war. Ron Paul introduced a bill to make a formal declaration of war against Iraq (even though he didn't agree with it), but his colleges didn't have the spine to even bring it to a vote. Blame should rest on the shoulders of the neo-cons. Morally he Dr. Paul felt we should clean up toxic weapon waste, but guilt for the death and destruction should go squarely on the shoulders of Bush and his ilk. The quicker we leave Iraq, the quicker they can sort out the mess.
War on drugs:
Why was it that congress had to pass a constitutional amendment to ban alcohol at the federal level, but not marijuana? If we really want to ban certain compounds at the federal level we should pass a constitutional amendment, and most probably repeal it 14 years later when we see it is a disaster. If California wants to legalize marijuana and Iowa wants to make it illegal that's fine. If Iowans want to go smoke weed in California they should be allowed to. Such is the way in a free republic.
Abortion:
If California wants abortion on demand and Iowa wants strict control that is fine. If an Iowan wants to travel to California to get an abortion no federal law should stop them. Such is the way in a free republic.
Monetary Policy:
Congress should do real audits of the federal reserve. Also, our currency should be fixed to a basket of commodities so the congress is not allowed to deflate the dollar without being lynched.
The Draft:
If the U.S. was in a major war the American people would volunteer in droves. We should abolish selective service, and possibly ban drafts with a constitutional amendment. It would be very hard for Congress to pursue wars against the people without their support. - GRTWHT, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17Even though I'm sick of all these Ron Paul posts:
@geekee, "There domestic policy is basically that the only role for govt. is to enforce laws that protect individual liberty."
Please explain what's wrong with that idea. Seriously, if that's what libertarians believe, they I guess maybe I'm one.
I don't believe the government's purpose is to protect us from ourselves, make being politically incorrect a punishable offense, or to tax all of us that work for a living so they can turn around and give OUR money to freeloaders that live a better lifestyle than a 'working stiff'
I also don't believe that the government's purpose is to attempt to regulate what we say or do becuase it's not 'christian' or 'moral', to tax us into bankruptcy to fund their elitist lifestyles and wars that increasing appear to be completely contrived to improve big business and the stock and commodities markets.
Obviously, this means I'm not comfortable with either of the extremist points of view, so Libertarian is starting to sound very interesting to me. - flohoff60, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17He ( the candidate)also has to pay the $25,000.00 fee in order to be in the debates.? Now how are we going to promote Ron Paul in SC when the powers that be are not in the least interested in what the people want but what the people can pay?
I guess it's not "government for the people, by the people" is it?
This is what is happening folks.....
People need to raise some noise over this - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+18I first heard of Congressman Ron Paul from a back jacket blurb from "The Creature From Jekyll Island (A small Georgian island): A second look at the Federal Reserve System (what the author calls a 'Creature')".
The book has an unfortunate title, but the information contained therein is some of the most astonishing history of world finance and politics and those who run them both. While a wise man told me never to trust a person who has only read one book, if you adopt a world view just based on the contents of that book alone, you are pretty close to a true understanding of what we call "Money" and how it shapes everything we see and do as Americans.
Strong State's Rights, Fiscal Responsibility, Personal Freedoms and Liberties. You have my Vote, Sir.
book link: http://www.realityzone.com/creature.html
(amazon sells it as well) - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17You should realize by now that Ron Paul isn't your typical neocon Republican. He'd be more likely to appoint libertarians, progressives, and traditional conservatives. He'd also help break apart the two party system. You're not voting for a Republican, you're voting for someone who can help change the entire paradigm.
- watoowatooir, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17Media is forcing the American public to believe their choices are either Clinton or Obama or some other ... if you are voting ignore what media chooses for you, choose your candidate and vote Ron Paul
- gazwilwah, on 10/12/2007, -3/+17Ha! The US has been a dictatorship for decades.
Think about it.
Reagan/Bush... Bush...Clinton...Bush...Clinton? - taylbx3, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14He expressed a desire to have the matter decided at the state level - where it belongs
- NetJoe, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14Take a close look at Ron Paul's voting record. He does NOT vote the party line. He's very consistent about voting based on a strict interpretation of the constitution.
- DocBoss, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15Well their policies and views are quite different economically however I get the vibe that both of them are trying to run to help improve the *****-hole our county has become and not just to be President (like Clinton and McCain). However both are quite liberal in many social aspects, and I think from both of them we would see less War On Terror War On Drugs and War On Homosexuals.
- chuckytaylor02, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12how can anyone hate ron paul? This man speaks so much truth... I hope he survives until the election!
Kennedy tried to bring down the federal reserve and restore it to its constitutional place.. and look what happened to him.
SERIOUSLY look into what this man believes about the future of America. He is more patriotic than I can spit at.
ps. Nothing is more patriotic that questioning your government. - darthhelmer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13Perhaps some wisdom from one of our Founding Fathers?
"The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions, that I wish it to be always kept alive. It will often be exercised when wrong, but better so than not to be exercised at all. I like a little rebellion now and then. It is like a storm in the atmosphere." --Thomas Jefferson to Abigail Adams, 1787.
"God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion... We have had thirteen States independent for eleven years. There has been one rebellion. That comes to one rebellion in a century and a half, for each State. What country before ever existed a century and a half without a rebellion?" --Thomas Jefferson to William S. Smith, 1787. ME 6:372 - faskippy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13"Maybe it was a good topic, but I felt it was poorly written. I even found a couple of typos."
Well, if you are more worried about typos than the content, that may be a good place to start, with regards to learning. The point is, this man has the understanding of what is wrong, and what to do about it. Much more than I can say about ANY politician in the 26 years I've been an adult. Kinda gets me excited for the future of our Country. Just think... - watoowatooir, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13The reason that you see Ron Paul on front pages is that it reflects users true opinion not a media propaganda, these are true people who care more about truth and integrity
- faskippy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11@jmg4j ...Have you heard about the NORTH AMERICAN UNION you dingleberry?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12You should research the North American Union yourself, theres a lot of compelling info on it
- Satanael, on 10/12/2007, -4/+15There were various efforts put forth in the past some years to prevent a draft... If people were working to PREVENT a draft, then yes, we were in danger of a draft to some extent in the past.
- gmason08, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12phaed "Its simple. Ron Paul = Republican = Current Administration = Corruption Galore.
Bush's views were comparable the first time we elected him. Look what we got instead. Do we not realize the lie machine that gets these administrations elected? Lets hope America is not that stupid to fall for it again."
Thanks for your comment above as it provides an opportunity to point out a very important fact, of which most Ron Paul supporters are already aware (painfully). Lie Machine? What machine? The man is treated as if he does not even exist by any "media" outside of the Podunk Tribune. Do you remember "shrub Bush" being ignored like that? What machine are you referring to? phaed and anyone else that cares about fair elections, do you not find it even the least suspicious that this man, Ron Paul, is treated as if he is not even running by the Big Megaphones? If you have not been following Ron Paul this has probably escaped your notice but if you look at the facts you will see the lengths the major media has gone to stifle Ron Paul's message from even being heard. That fact should disturb anyone and cause them to at least examine for themselves why his message has been suppressed. One example, he is frequently not even listed as a candidate even though he has declared his candidacy while people without so much as an exploratory committee are listed and numerous articles are written/TV pieces are presented about the later? What the hell is that all about. It would not be too surprising if he were a declared candidate for the You-Never-Heard-of-them Party Nomination but he is a Declared Candidate for the Republican Party Nomination, WTF?
BTW-I know many Diggers think the Ron Paul supporters are a) paid operatives and/or b) 10 people w/ multiple screen names. That is absolutely Not the case. a) Ron Paul, due to the fact that he is truly an honest straight-up guy that will not sell out to anyone, has almost no campaign money, certainly not enough to afford to pay me even minimum wage, I do this (gladly) for free because I know what he is/what he is about and I have never had the opportunity in my 30 years of being able to vote to have a candidate available remotely near Ron Paul's quality. b) the other people on Digg supporting Ron Paul are doing so for the same reasons and are real, individual people not multiple screen names, once you know the facts about Ron Paul you will understand that this is true and why it is true. - CannedMango, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12sounds like a pretty good plan to me. Can't get rid of all the money now can they?
- sivsta, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12Anyone remember that southpark episode where you have to choose a candidate for president. "you have the option of choosing between a douchebag and a turd sandwich".
It seems to me Ron Paul may be the exception. The average American can relate more to him than every other millionaire candidate.
Vote R.P., so we can break the: "Every election seems like it's choosing the lesser of the two evils....." - ssjdoob, on 10/12/2007, -6/+17For more info on Ron Paul, search for him on YouTube and watch some of his congressional speeches.
- synapz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11@phaed:
You clearly have not listened to Ron Paul speak or viewed his voting record. As difficult as it is to believe, his integrity is amazing. He's Honest Abe reborn. Check him out. -
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