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Presidential Candidate Mike Gravel calls for Impeachment!
gravel2008.us — An official statement by Mike Gravel.... "However, today I want to unequivocally state: without Impeachment first, what I or any other worthy Presidential candidate wants to accomplish is very unlikely to happen. Our words will in fact become another empty campaign promise and another sad political fantasy."
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- zappa717, on 01/25/2008, -7/+138Go Gravel!
- Roger, on 01/25/2008, -22/+2So Gravel or Ron Paul?
You guys sold me on Gravel then switched over to Ron Paul. Make up your mind people!- UtopiaInTheSky, on 01/25/2008, -4/+21It's about the issues and what's being done by whom, not about a particular person and "celebrity" status. If you want to be told who to like and ignore reasons why, then watch FOX News.
- Roger, on 01/25/2008, -6/+5"If you want to be told who to like and ignore reasons why, then watch FOX News."
Or read digg, since this is now Ron Paul central.- UtopiaInTheSky, on 01/25/2008, -1/+4I haven't seen a Ron Paul article on the front page for... Two weeks? There are significantly fewer articles about him these days.
- kidcodea, on 01/26/2008, -0/+6GRAVEL IS THE MAN!
balls of steel! what an oportunity to vote. Gravelution!
www.gravel2008.us
- Roger, on 01/25/2008, -6/+5"If you want to be told who to like and ignore reasons why, then watch FOX News."
- UtopiaInTheSky, on 01/25/2008, -4/+21It's about the issues and what's being done by whom, not about a particular person and "celebrity" status. If you want to be told who to like and ignore reasons why, then watch FOX News.
- hiimcliff, on 01/25/2008, -14/+2gravel is a true mavrick. but being a mavrick wont get you votes. barack to me has a better strategy. fool the republicans into thinking you agree with them to get their votes on your agenda.
- brownrabbit, on 01/26/2008, -0/+1This isn't about votes. Wake up.
- Garbagio, on 01/25/2008, -2/+22@ hiimcliff
This guy would NOT have my vote, but he most certainly has earned respect with this letter. Anyone thinking this is a letter or gimmick for gaining votes needs to read it again, and again, and again until they realize that this is an elected SENATOR that has written a PLEA to the people to impeach as it is the last vestige of governmental freedom available. If impeachment is drowned, then the US would have no choice but to effect a civilian/military coup to overthrow abusive officials. There won't be any letter writing or voicing opinions. This is against the democratic ideals that have been set from the days of old and it's even more excruciatingly obvious than ever.
If this government is waited out, we would in effect be saying that the manipulation and OPENLY ADMITTED deception of the country is perfectly acceptable for future presidents. At the risk of sounding dramatic, these are the final hours for your country, for its more-than-tarnished reputation and for its future generations' well being. Already, you are almost certainly committed to lay the debt of the country on the infants you hold in your arms. Your gap-toothed teenager won't be playing baseball laughing with friends and family; he/she will be looking for work while his parents are trying desperately as well to manage their family. Having been warned time and time again, there will not be pity from the rest of the world for the citizen's ignorance and inaction.- principle, on 01/25/2008, -0/+6Well said!
- principle, on 01/25/2008, -1/+12If you care for your country then sign Congressman’s Robert Wexler petition now!
http://www.wexlerwantshearings.com/ - rollem, on 01/26/2008, -2/+2And in other news, dog bites man.
- JewelD, on 02/05/2008, -0/+1Sentaor Gravel is still on the slate - VOTE for him TODAY - super Tuesday!
You can still make a difference!
- Roger, on 01/25/2008, -22/+2So Gravel or Ron Paul?
- LosAngelesAG, on 01/25/2008, -5/+86Fight On, Senator !!!
- didiman, on 01/25/2008, -19/+4Maybe Gravel and Kucinich can share a room at the asylum.
- martalli, on 01/26/2008, -0/+3...or the history books.
- compdude32, on 01/25/2008, -12/+2Gravel thinks he is a worthy presidential canadiadate and you people don't think he is nuts?
- kidcodea, on 01/26/2008, -2/+5i think hes too good for retarded people who make retarded comments.
what he wants to fix is exactly that. empowering you thru knowledge- cmackattack, on 01/26/2008, -0/+2
If you haven't watched these two video yet, I highly recommend it.
Interview - The End of America - http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=aW9PulYpjGs
Lyndon LaRouche: - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyULc8y0ffQ
- cmackattack, on 01/26/2008, -0/+2
- kidcodea, on 01/26/2008, -2/+5i think hes too good for retarded people who make retarded comments.
- didiman, on 01/25/2008, -19/+4Maybe Gravel and Kucinich can share a room at the asylum.
- s35wf, on 01/25/2008, -37/+17IMPEACH the SOB's IMPEACH BUSH, IMPEACH CHENEY!
VOTE DR. RON PAUL 2008!- d03boy, on 01/25/2008, -3/+13or Gravel
- legendxx, on 01/25/2008, -1/+12why didn't 'the' afford the same psychotic all caps spree you were on there?
- ethanpack, on 01/25/2008, -2/+2Priceless. Just a guess, but
- R1ng00, on 01/25/2008, -2/+10Stop with off topic Vote Ron Paul ***** .... i like him too but this is not helping him get votes when you start annoying people with random acts of Ron Paul spam. It also makes think the very bad world cult....
- entrophize, on 01/25/2008, -50/+13Who is this Gravel character and why should we care what he says?
- pintomp3, on 01/25/2008, -3/+21because he is a man of integrity and action. he single handedly filibustered to end the draft during the vietnam war and got the pentagon papers released. the man is a hero, it's a shame how the corporate media treats him.
- dinsy, on 01/25/2008, -1/+6same way they treat any true patriot.
- kidcodea, on 01/26/2008, -0/+4you should care. google him. ill start:
http://www.therealnews.com/web/index.php?thisdatas ...
his view on his mainstream running mates
- d03boy, on 01/25/2008, -4/+12I hope you're not a voter...
- aphexmandelbrot, on 01/25/2008, -2/+14"What is Google, and how do I use it?"
- xadhominemx, on 01/26/2008, -0/+1What is sarcasm? How do I understand it?
- FoghornLeghorn, on 01/25/2008, -2/+2Ad hominen anyone?
- R1ng00, on 01/25/2008, -2/+7It's comments like this that make me ashamed to be American.
- moin1097, on 01/26/2008, -3/+1If it's any consolation, I'm ashamed you call yourself an American also.
- bearsandbulls, on 01/26/2008, -2/+2He's a true patriot, why did you type something and think we would care what you had to say you are nobody he is former Senator
- pintomp3, on 01/25/2008, -3/+21because he is a man of integrity and action. he single handedly filibustered to end the draft during the vietnam war and got the pentagon papers released. the man is a hero, it's a shame how the corporate media treats him.
- wufoo, on 01/25/2008, -5/+101I respect Gravel, even more now.
- TypeEE, on 01/25/2008, -1/+8Gravel, Kucinish and Paul, are they the only honest politician?
- NnyCW, on 01/26/2008, -0/+5I'd say you could probably add Russ Feingold to that list...but yeah, it is sadly quite a short list.
- goptexan1, on 01/26/2008, -6/+0Yes, a short list of Loonie Toons.
- NnyCW, on 01/26/2008, -0/+5I'd say you could probably add Russ Feingold to that list...but yeah, it is sadly quite a short list.
- kidcodea, on 01/26/2008, -0/+6you probably would respect him even more if the 6 months of videos and links that didnt make the frontpage , actually did...
one these days im gonna do a all links all videos in one page GRAVEL.- goptexan1, on 01/26/2008, -4/+0That will be a short rant.
- TypeEE, on 01/25/2008, -1/+8Gravel, Kucinish and Paul, are they the only honest politician?
- GreenGrassyNoel, on 01/25/2008, -33/+5Dick Cheney for president?
- banq59, on 01/25/2008, -2/+9Impeaching him too
- BadseedJR, on 01/25/2008, -2/+6Dick Cheney for puppet master
- soot, on 01/25/2008, -3/+40Good for you, Mike.
- woodrow8292, on 01/25/2008, -27/+5Wow he's on the ballot in 20 whole states. He should do real well in the election. I see him getting about .020% of the vote.
- d03boy, on 01/25/2008, -4/+14welcome to the media blackout of 2008
- Iconoclast25, on 01/25/2008, -6/+3. . . if that . . . he's the artic's answer to denny the demented space hobbit.
- kidcodea, on 01/26/2008, -2/+4why should you be proud of a nation that welcomes mediocrity and bans from media any hint of intelegence?
american society is the laughin target of the world for a reason.- Iconoclast25, on 01/26/2008, -0/+1Well, clearly *you* have the "intelegence" to participate in the media, but that does not preclude you, gravel and the rest of the sock puppet libtards from being "laughin" stocks in your own right. Thanks for playing; come back when you're old enough to vote. HANDDA
- Proctor, on 01/25/2008, -3/+32Only the Intellectual Elites of Washington have enough sense to Impeach the current administration.
- merdiesel, on 01/25/2008, -5/+115At this point, the title could say "Garfield calls for impeachment" and I would digg it.
- mike17032, on 01/25/2008, -18/+3And doing that will do just about as much as this nonsense article does.
- pintomp3, on 01/25/2008, -9/+28go gravel, you are the only one left seeking justice.
- RepublicansSuck, on 01/25/2008, -8/+28GRAVEL '08!
- Jazzillion, on 01/25/2008, -5/+67"Think how many people in 1938 Hitler had in jail in Germany. Then take that figure and match it to how many people our free quote government has in jail today and you will find that the United States of America has six times more people in jail per capita than Adolf Hitler had in 1938 at the beginning of the Second World War." -Gravel
Not that's a staggering fact from an individual who's perspective is on personal liberty and the right of freedom, which is a good enough reason to listen to anybody.- matstars, on 01/25/2008, -15/+5What does this have to do with Bush? Did he directly jail those people?
- jgzman, on 01/25/2008, -2/+14Do you think Hitler 'directly' jailed his people?
- compdude32, on 01/25/2008, -3/+3Um... yea and what was the population of Germany in 1938 compared to the US today
Also the number of people in jail is completely irrelevant, it is the reasons why they are jailed that is relevant. Hitler jailed people who spoke out against him, there was no jury of your peers in the Nazi courts.- redone, on 01/25/2008, -2/+8What part of "per capita" did you miss?
- Wootery, on 01/25/2008, -3/+6"Hitler jailed people who spoke out against him, there was no jury of your peers in the Nazi courts."
Yeah. Not like you can be sent to Guantanamo Bay for the rest of your life without trial. Oh wait.
- n0gnuz, on 01/25/2008, -5/+8Bush is a stooge for the Israel lobby, but come on: Mass imprisonment of civilians began with prohibition laws decades ago. Is Bush responsible for all the authoritarian laws passed in the last 70 years? People seem too blinded by partisan hatred to see the real anti-freedom factions in society. Neo-liberals want everyone who thinks the 'wrong' things about women and minorities imprisoned. The 'neo-conservatives' want everyone who thinks the wrong thing about Zionism or current US foreign policy locked up. Liberal authoritarians want anyone who sells drugs within 100 miles of kids incarcerated; conservative authoritarians want anyone who even considers getting high thrown in a cell.
Bush has presided over some frightening changes, but they are simply the latest in a long line of offenses against American liberty.- norman619, on 01/25/2008, -5/+2You are a stooge of the mindless.
- dinsy, on 01/25/2008, -0/+3All the more reason to get started in the other direction by impeachment. Gotta start somewhere.
- norman619, on 01/25/2008, -7/+2Really? Guess what? If we legalized drugs many of those in jail/prison would be free. A free society still has rules and laws which MUST be followed AND enforced. Sounds like you feel we shouldn't enforce our laws. Sorry but you really need to look at why the people in our prisons are there and why the people in Hitler's prisons were there. You will find very different reasons. But I don't expect someone ignorant enough to say what you said to have the grasp on reality needed for clear thought. If you hate Bush that's fine but don't pull ***** out of your ass to justify it.
- goptexan1, on 01/26/2008, -3/+0BRAVO!! Well said! Thank you.
- Proctor, on 01/26/2008, -4/+2The people put in jail in the United States are put in jail because they have gone through due process of law and received their sentence as way of the Constitution.
- goptexan1, on 01/26/2008, -2/+0Send them back to where they came from.
- matstars, on 01/25/2008, -15/+5What does this have to do with Bush? Did he directly jail those people?
- orangetiki, on 01/25/2008, -17/+4Lil late don't you think?
- norman619, on 01/25/2008, -3/+1It's a worthless political statement designed to get the kind of response you are seeing here on digg by the simpleminded hate bush crew. In other words he's fishing for political brownie points.
- supernaut, on 01/25/2008, -2/+21yet another senator!
let's get this ball rolling!- brownrabbit, on 01/26/2008, -0/+2Unfortunately he is a non-active Senator. Write your active Senators in typed or written format and mail it today. Even if it is just a page that has your signature on it and says - IMPEACHMENT NOW PLEASE.
Bless freedom and truth and human power of uniting in cooperation around these values.
- brownrabbit, on 01/26/2008, -0/+2Unfortunately he is a non-active Senator. Write your active Senators in typed or written format and mail it today. Even if it is just a page that has your signature on it and says - IMPEACHMENT NOW PLEASE.
- Misinformant, on 01/25/2008, -2/+28Better late than never
- goptexan1, on 01/26/2008, -2/+0Better never at all. Too late We have kooks running for Pres. and things are going to get a lot worse before they get better.
- SuperVepr308, on 01/25/2008, -21/+3In America, someone's ass just called for a scratch. These two events have nearly the same real world relevance
- CrudeDarkness, on 01/25/2008, -5/+9and bush is too busy giving the "one finger victory salute" to care:
http://digg.com/comedy/BUSH_SAYS_F_K_YOU - mogebier, on 01/25/2008, -37/+8Blah blah blah... all I hear from nutbags like this guy is the sound of Charlie Brown's teacher.
- didiman, on 01/25/2008, -12/+4That's the universal language for liberals.
- manetheren, on 01/25/2008, -15/+6It's too bad that he seems like a crazy old man when he was actually invited to the debates due to his harsh tone. In terms of ideas I'm very much in line with him. Gravel as Vice? Gravel as anything would be cool.
- ElAssoWipo, on 01/25/2008, -6/+19"But I do not have the balls or the integrity to present an impeachment resolution. And impeachment resolutions have been voted off the table by the vast majority of Congress so I accomplish absolutely nothing other than saying I too have an imagination."
Gravel's a decent man, but the majority of Americans want impeachment. They've been asking for impeachment since 2006 (as a majority). Congress chooses not to listen. These people will spend the rest of their days in some tropical paradise, playing golf and living in mansions that YOU paid for. Like Nixon did despite being a war criminal.- tsotha, on 01/25/2008, -12/+2No, the majority of Americans do not want impeachment. You can be sure it would be happening if that were the case.
- Garbagio, on 01/25/2008, -1/+6HAHAH, yeah right. The majority of the population wants disposable, easy, and convenient. You think that the majority of people that want impeachment are willing to go the distance to get it done? Hell, there's enough of us that are here just bitching on Digg. I'm not American but I'm keeping an eye open, an ear out, my voice ready and a tight fist to criticize my government as well as commend them when necessary. I certainly hope things work out for you guys and gals but they won't if there isn't 'work' getting done by the people that can make a difference.
- redone, on 01/25/2008, -1/+1Senators can't impeach. It's up to the House to impeach, the Senate to judge.
- tsotha, on 01/25/2008, -12/+2No, the majority of Americans do not want impeachment. You can be sure it would be happening if that were the case.
- humanerror, on 04/03/2008, -6/+47I donated $200 to Mike Gravel's campaign this month. I'm eating plain rice and ramen until payday, but I don't regret it!
- leerayIG88, on 01/25/2008, -4/+1you could eat some big macs and whoppers.
- Stemer, on 01/25/2008, -9/+2I'm sure the old geezer will appreciate your 200 bucks since he can't seem to take care of his own finances. He has filed for bankruptcy, not once..but twice! And oh yes ...I'm sure the illegal aliens will appreciate your donation to him since he is against the deportation of illegals.
- theRIAA, on 01/26/2008, -1/+4Dey' Took Err Jerbs!!
- goptexan1, on 01/26/2008, -2/+0Yes, heand McCain love those illegals.
- m4lomb, on 01/25/2008, -13/+21Impeachment and EXECUTION. Bush is a TRAITOR so he should be hang until he is dead. The man must be given a fair trial, but if he is found guilty, as he should, we must set the example and execute him.
- nfkiller, on 01/25/2008, -2/+7They don't kill enough politicians these days. Bush had retards executed in Texas > Bush is a retard = ?
- BabyWookie, on 01/26/2008, -1/+2Death penalty is barbaric and I do not believe that Gravel supports it, even for Bush.
- joshuaer, on 01/25/2008, -16/+1How have i not heard of this guy before today
- mempko, on 01/26/2008, -0/+1You watch too much tv
- bambam630, on 01/25/2008, -14/+39If this was Ron Paul you all would be creaming your shorts but since it's Gravel you dismiss him.
- BadseedJR, on 01/25/2008, -7/+31If this was Ron Paul, there would be 100 people saying "No more Ron Paul spam," or "Paul is crazy and will never win."
- TheDHC, on 01/25/2008, -0/+37I'm an ardent Ron Paul supporter, but I'll never dismiss a politician who isn't afraid to name names. mike gravel is a breath of fresh air to American politics. it's a crime that he was never given a fair chance. I'll always remember this fine man.
- duggreen, on 01/25/2008, -0/+4Many previous RP supporters have graduated on up to Big Mike once they learn about him. Whoever gets elected will have some fighting to do once they're in office. Ron Paul is smart and capable, but Gravel is tougher and much more experienced.
- 10GunSalute, on 01/26/2008, -0/+2Ron Paul is a ballsy kind of guy, I'm surprised he's not calling for impeachment too.
- waynetheman, on 01/26/2008, -0/+4He seems to be a tad bit shrewder than Gravel and Kucinich (not necessarily smarter, just more experienced politically.) He seems to be taking the long-term approach of getting into office first, THEN addressing the problems.
Plus, he's a Republican, and he stands to lose a lot more from such a call than Democrats do.
- waynetheman, on 01/26/2008, -0/+4He seems to be a tad bit shrewder than Gravel and Kucinich (not necessarily smarter, just more experienced politically.) He seems to be taking the long-term approach of getting into office first, THEN addressing the problems.
- IndiePinkAngel, on 01/25/2008, -21/+20I am NOT an avid Bush supporter. However, for everyone is always talking about impeachment... will you people read a history book and/or learn how our government operates please? Bush is not going to be impeached. I'm also waiting for someone to realize that the president of the United States is not all powerful. Everyone hates Bush for the Iraq war. Wake up people. Congress sent us there too. Democrats AND Republicans. Don't buy the lines you are being fed, lines that are ONLY political rhetoric and nothing more. Pay attention to who you vote for and stop just bitching about the president. He/She can't do anything without the support of other government officials. If you really want change... if you really hate the system, read up, pay attention. Know who your Congress is... don't just say "impeach the president." That's just silly. That wouldn't solve anything and it's not actually an option. If Bush should be impeached, there are plenty of other presidents in our history who should have been as well.
- heebeejeebie, on 01/25/2008, -9/+6Thank you for saving me loads of typing. Was about to say the same thing. Totally agree that people forget that Congress was gung ho for war at the time. Be prepared though because a post is coming that says- they were duped by phony intelligence. Of course they all saw the same intel and interpreted it the same but that's a simple fact and won't matter.
- dinsy, on 01/25/2008, -1/+4I don't really care to defend Congress but they were: a) lied to on a huge scale and b) told they if they didn't go along they were "helping the terrrists". Not to mention were all scared ***** they would be anthraxed.
- IndiePinkAngel, on 01/28/2008, -0/+0I see not everyone seems to want to also blame Congress, because of course, they are not responsible politicians. Anywho, thanks for the support. Americans today hate to look at anything with any kind of historical perspective, or even looking back a few months. We always live in the here and now... which is why we never learn anything and seem to always repeat the same mistakes.
- faskippy, on 01/25/2008, -4/+12Yes, you're right. Most in Congress DID vote for the sending troops. I think voting those bastards out first would be the thing to do. But that does not detract from the fact that the designers of this facade should face a judge for their crimes. The first order of business should be to reverse what has been done to the Constitution and rule of law by Bush and Cheney. That, in my opinion will only be done by electing a new President who (a) voted against going into Iraq, and (b) actually honors his oath to defend the Constitution. If you use this formula to choose a President for America, it only leaves you 2 possible candidates now. I don't care how many times some schill says the word "change", if they haven't shown by their actions in the past that they won't be bullied into disgracing it, then they just aren't a safe bet. We stand to lose too much at this critical time for our Country. Promises are just not enough.
- IndiePinkAngel, on 01/28/2008, -0/+0I'll agree wtih you totally about voting for someone who wasn't for the war. I care the most about someone who has flip flopped. I'm just sick of avid nonsupporters claimng innocence when they voted for it. I agree with you completely.
- Chunken, on 01/25/2008, -5/+5If Clinton was impeached for getting a BJ then Bush should be impeached for wrongly murdering thousands of innocent people. I know the chance of getting him thrown out of office and into jail for his crimes is very low, but it would sure make many of us feel better. At least we tried to bring justice to these criminals instead of sitting back and watching it happen and shrugging our shoulders.
- IAmLegend24, on 01/25/2008, -3/+5Clinton was impeached for perjury.
- vbullinger, on 01/25/2008, -4/+24No. Congress did not vote for going to war at all.
What DID they do?
They voted to give Bush the power to do whatever he wanted to do: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLV7zDhKzDY
I'm serious. They did not vote to go to war with Iraq. They voted to give Bush the power to do whatever he wanted, without him even expressing what he wanted to do so.
I'm a Republican. I hate Bush. Gravel and Kucinich are awesome. They will have high-level positions in Ron Paul's cabinet.- 10GunSalute, on 01/26/2008, -0/+3Dugg for being a true Republican.
- geor6cle, on 01/25/2008, -1/+12vbullinger is correct, there was no declaration of war from congress. the administration strongarmed thier way into it.
- R1ng00, on 01/25/2008, -0/+4You're right -- Congress is complicit in Bush's crimes and that is why they do nothing. The problem we all face is our government not just Bush is out of control and until we stand up and make them ALL accountable we will get no where. In fact we are doomed to repeat the same mistakes over and over until we break the cycle of electing criminals to office. It's no different then personal relationships - a lot of people pick losers over and over and until they see that pattern and change it -- nothing in their lives will change.
Hence nothing in our lives will change until we see and admit there is a problem and actively pursue changing the problem.
- heebeejeebie, on 01/25/2008, -9/+6Thank you for saving me loads of typing. Was about to say the same thing. Totally agree that people forget that Congress was gung ho for war at the time. Be prepared though because a post is coming that says- they were duped by phony intelligence. Of course they all saw the same intel and interpreted it the same but that's a simple fact and won't matter.
- jetboyterp, on 01/25/2008, -18/+4"...what I or any other worthy Presidential candidate wants to accomplish..." Are you kidding me? "worthy"? Does anyone really care what guys like Gravel, or Kucinich, really think?
- swrostmore, on 01/25/2008, -3/+13The real question is, does any worthy Presidential candidate care what the huge percentage of Americans that agree with Gravel and Kucinich on impeachment really think?
- chrissandvick, on 01/25/2008, -10/+1You've got the same the same delusion that "most" Americans agree with Kucinich and Gravel as the Paulians have about their guy.
- swrostmore, on 01/25/2008, -3/+5The difference is that national polls of impeachment support register 50 -60%, while national polls of Ron Paul register 1%
- chrissandvick, on 01/25/2008, -6/+2Well googling impeachment bush brings up a 1st page filled with links to democrats.com, afterdowningstreet.com, rawstory, impeachpac and mediamatters. All liberal/lefty sites And it looks like they are all referring to the same jan 2005 Zogby poll commissioned by afterdowningstreet. I don't buy it. Call it ad hominem if you like but I don't think these sources or Zogby is trustworthy. The first link I found that comes from a more ideological neutral source was USA Today/Gallup Poll. http://www.pollingreport.com/bush.htm 62% against starting an impeachment investigation and it was run in 2007. There's another one on the same page from 2006 that's closer but still against 42%-50% against.
It one sense it's irrelevant to both you and me. Even if all the polls in 2008 show the majority is against you'd still be for impeachment and even if all the polls were for it I'd still be against.
- chrissandvick, on 01/25/2008, -6/+2Well googling impeachment bush brings up a 1st page filled with links to democrats.com, afterdowningstreet.com, rawstory, impeachpac and mediamatters. All liberal/lefty sites And it looks like they are all referring to the same jan 2005 Zogby poll commissioned by afterdowningstreet. I don't buy it. Call it ad hominem if you like but I don't think these sources or Zogby is trustworthy. The first link I found that comes from a more ideological neutral source was USA Today/Gallup Poll. http://www.pollingreport.com/bush.htm 62% against starting an impeachment investigation and it was run in 2007. There's another one on the same page from 2006 that's closer but still against 42%-50% against.
- swrostmore, on 01/25/2008, -3/+5The difference is that national polls of impeachment support register 50 -60%, while national polls of Ron Paul register 1%
- chrissandvick, on 01/25/2008, -10/+1You've got the same the same delusion that "most" Americans agree with Kucinich and Gravel as the Paulians have about their guy.
- chrissandvick, on 01/25/2008, -10/+1Just the hard left.
- Chunken, on 01/25/2008, -1/+3I care what he has to say. He's much smarter than Hillary or Obama or any of the republican candidates. If the media gave him fair share he would probably become president.
- swrostmore, on 01/25/2008, -3/+13The real question is, does any worthy Presidential candidate care what the huge percentage of Americans that agree with Gravel and Kucinich on impeachment really think?
- tomasII, on 01/25/2008, -18/+4Gavel is irrelevant. Just another pathetic attempt to make people know who he is.
- vbullinger, on 01/25/2008, -2/+5How can you call someone irrelevant when you know so little about them that you can't even spell their name correctly?
Doing a great thing is not an attempt to make yourself relevant.
- vbullinger, on 01/25/2008, -2/+5How can you call someone irrelevant when you know so little about them that you can't even spell their name correctly?
- BannedTwice, on 01/25/2008, -22/+3Who? ***** him, no impeachment no way, no how. ***** lib tards.
- zippy757, on 01/25/2008, -6/+22...have you ever wondered why the top dem's don't push for impeachment..?
Because in an impeachment, the gloves come off and many people testify, under oath, and what the American public will see is the republican side drag in democrats to testify, many of which were briefed and had the same knowledge as Bush...and so the result will be while the American public will finally get a thumbs up/down on Bush, in the course of getting that vote, they will also see key dem's in the same light...thus harming the democrats....
An impeachment will only win the battle, but lose the war. It's a bad idea...especially during an election year....t- zappa717, on 01/25/2008, -1/+18What you say about exposing the dems also is true, which is why the truth SHOULD come out, espically in an election year.
- waynetheman, on 01/26/2008, -0/+2"An impeachment will only win the battle, but lose the war."
Only if you consider the goal of the "war" to be getting Democrats in power. Bleh. Like the Reds and Blues are really any different.
Ideally, the whole sordid affair would cause a complete political revolt. Wouldn't that be something. - IndiePinkAngel, on 01/28/2008, -0/+0You are most likely absolutely right.
- mcgoo, on 01/31/2008, -0/+0The American People have a right to a government that is honest and peaceful. I am asking the House Judiciary Committee to begin hearings on H. Res. 799: Impeaching Richard B. Cheney, Vice President of the United States, of high crimes and misdemeanors. It is a well known fact the Office of Special Plans (OSP) was setup to discredit intelligence produced by the Near East and South Asia (NESA) directorate in the Pentagon leading up to the invasion of Iraq. As the executive branch continues to expand its powers under the "unitary executive theory", isn't it time that Vice President Cheney be held accountable for his actions under the law?
- SwedishNinja, on 01/25/2008, -10/+7"Think how many people in 1938 Hitler had in jail in Germany. Then take that figure and match it to how many people our free quote government has in jail today and you will find that the United States of America has six times more people in jail per capita than Adolf Hitler had in 1938 at the beginning of the Second World War." -Gravel
lol, Godwin.- tsotha, on 01/25/2008, -5/+3He's right about that, but it doesn't have anything to do with Bush.
- tsotha, on 01/29/2008, -0/+0Do you take anything for that?
- tsotha, on 01/25/2008, -5/+3He's right about that, but it doesn't have anything to do with Bush.
- alphonseragusa, on 01/25/2008, -3/+24I am an Independent who wants progress and not bickering.
That being said, wasn't Clinton impeached for a BJ? Surely, W has done worse, no?- tsotha, on 01/25/2008, -10/+51) Clinton was not impeached for a BJ
2) No, W has not done worse. - chrissandvick, on 01/25/2008, -6/+7Not quite, he was impeached for perjury about a BJ. If you ask the left Bush eats children for breakfast but as to what would actually hold up under a real investigation?
- vbullinger, on 01/25/2008, -4/+4You can't investigate Bush's crimes: he squelches it.
See for yourself: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-371925900 ...
- vbullinger, on 01/25/2008, -4/+4You can't investigate Bush's crimes: he squelches it.
- pintomp3, on 01/25/2008, -0/+4silly american, impeachments are for blowjobs.
- tsotha, on 01/25/2008, -10/+51) Clinton was not impeached for a BJ
- mrhuhk, on 01/25/2008, -4/+4http://www.digg.com/politics/Immigration_officials ...
Digg this one if you really think impeachment is important! - IAmLegend24, on 01/25/2008, -6/+5Impeachment will never happen, and if he had the support to start the impeachment process it would just be months of hearings, and millions of tax money wasted only to have Bush cleared of all charges.
- Shananra, on 01/25/2008, -4/+10Wait, what does this article have to do with Scientology?
- ronaldinho, on 01/25/2008, -5/+1Um, it doesn't, RTFA
- Spoomeister, on 01/25/2008, -2/+6He's still running? He's not in any of the debates, so I assumed he'd dropped out.
/sarcasm - razorsedge555, on 01/25/2008, -4/+3Does this mean every other candidate knocked out of the primaries will call for impeachment?
Will Hillary get revenge for what they did to her husband?
If they were all Scientologists, they wouldn't have this problem. - Chunken, on 01/25/2008, -1/+18Mike Gravel is awesome. He's my #1 choice for president. Too bad the media screws guys like him over (and screws us over at the same time).
- ragingranny, on 01/25/2008, -1/+6Mike Gravel IS awsome--but Dennis Kucinich actually has introduced articles of impeachment against Cheny, and reportedly will bring up Bush next. In my book that makes him a hero. And what coverage has the media given to any of this? Where are either of these men in the debates? Oh, no, we get hours and hours of coverage of Anna Nicole's baby and Brittany's latest. What America really needs to know. And the media seems to have decided who's going to win. OR at lease narrowed our options. Most of my friends had never even heard of Kucinich, or Gravel for that matter. (they have now)
- onyxrev, on 01/25/2008, -0/+3http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOchzHhE6OM
- ragingranny, on 01/25/2008, -1/+6Mike Gravel IS awsome--but Dennis Kucinich actually has introduced articles of impeachment against Cheny, and reportedly will bring up Bush next. In my book that makes him a hero. And what coverage has the media given to any of this? Where are either of these men in the debates? Oh, no, we get hours and hours of coverage of Anna Nicole's baby and Brittany's latest. What America really needs to know. And the media seems to have decided who's going to win. OR at lease narrowed our options. Most of my friends had never even heard of Kucinich, or Gravel for that matter. (they have now)
- wil2200, on 01/25/2008, -2/+27america - you ***** up big time when u let the assholes in the MSN marginalized Gravel and Kucinich and even Paul - and you sat there and took it like the good little patriots you are
your country has been hijacked, the rule of law usurped - and none was done to serve your 'patriotic ideals', it was done to get away with criminal activities and get rich - Roger_Ramjet, on 01/25/2008, -11/+0Pathetic candidate trying desperately to get noticed by a lame lowly rated cable network. Is there anything more patethic?.
- msmith, on 01/25/2008, -1/+10Our president, by several orders of magnitude.
- vbullinger, on 01/25/2008, -1/+10You.
- voteobama4, on 01/25/2008, -4/+3Hear Hear
- dinsy, on 01/25/2008, -0/+1here
- matstars, on 01/25/2008, -7/+3I love people who say he's "a worse version of Hitler." He definately has all the makings of the leader of the third reich! I agree! Just don't let him get the RHINELAND - FRANCE STAND UP TO HIM!
/sarcasm - msmith, on 01/25/2008, -3/+4"Yeah, but somebody else was just as bad!" What a cowardly defense. You cannot defend the behavior of the White House by pointing a finger at Congress, or anybody else.
- matstars, on 01/25/2008, -4/+2Nobody is pointing fingers. It is not a defense in the sense that you claim it is. It's a fact. The role of president is not totalitarian ruler. There is a system of checks and balances. If he is over-reaching his powers then why do I only read about any *MATERIAL* impeachment or any other checks and balances being utilized on Digg which come from rawstory, thinkprogress, huffingtonpost, southpawblogs, liberalwhinyrats, or any of these other "thinktanks" and not ANY major media outlet? (nota bene: Key word is material.)
- phufufoo, on 01/25/2008, -2/+8I don't even know why there is even two parties. It should just be everyman for himself. ***** choosing sides. There shouldn't even be private debates on TV. They should require all candidates to fill out a pamphlet which display their point of views on key issues and then a background check out their voting records then mail it to every house hold. Maybe instead of all this ***** on TV and the internet people could just sit home and read whats in front of them. Too bad this won't ever happen and most American's don't even read.
- exili, on 01/26/2008, -0/+3I read your ***** and loved it. Parties for what?
The real problem though is improving the voting system.
- exili, on 01/26/2008, -0/+3I read your ***** and loved it. Parties for what?
- chall85, on 01/25/2008, -1/+7Kucinich (though he just dropped out - not sure what Gravel's waiting for...) has been calling for impeachment for a couple years now. If you want to help get impeachment a hearing, go to http://www.wexlerwantshearings.com/ and sign up.
- onyxrev, on 01/25/2008, -0/+5Gravel's waiting for November 2008 - when people vote for him.
- duggreen, on 01/25/2008, -0/+2Gravel has said he won't drop out. Those of us who'd like to imagine we have a fraction of Big Mikes personal integrity will be at the polls to vote for him in November no matter how low he is polling. There's still time to stop and think.
- happystinky, on 01/25/2008, -0/+22[sHAKE SHaKe!]
WAKE UP!
The purpose Gravel and Kucinich are writing letters and giving statements of impeachment is that they know 'tomorrow' - after they announce their withdrawal from the race, their voice will no longer have the potency that it does right this moment. They want to affect change and they know - if ever - this is the moment to do it. It's smart and it's honorable.
Everyone on stage should have the courage and Integrity to do the same and if they don't, then they can't fully be counted on to protect our constitution. NO leniency should be taken on ANYONE who is out to destroy our constitution. How can we as a nation sit back and let it happen? How can those who seek office not only acknowledge, but demand that the current administration be called out for their crimes!?
Honestly, the argument some people give that impeachment is useless; that it is a waste of tax payer money and that it takes our attention away from putting someone in office that can affect change... Are you serious? If you agree with that, you've fallen victim to strategic silencing by the media and the administration. Congrats. You've been pwned.
The letters of Impeachment serve their purpose if they draw the attention of the masses of Americans who we all know typically do not pay attention to anything that isn't supported by 'A Major News Headline'! Sadly, that's how opinions are formed in this country. People skim the headlines. And, it IS important that the people realize the REAL state this country is in. If our trusted leaders don't have the guts to stand up and make a statement, who will? It would only serve to take this country further down the dark path to destruction that we're currently on.
I think we can all see, change is NOT going to happen the way things are going! And, it will not happen based at all, based on the direction the current administration....I mean, the media....I mean, the current administration....has guided this election process.
Putting our attention on the current debates is great. But, as we can all see, we are LOOSING the battle to put a worthy leader in office! Obama? Clinton? OMG! All the good that putting attention on the debates is doing us, so far.
Those that support impeachment will generally be those that support the likes of Kucinich, Gravel and any other candidate that actually offers any hope of saving this country - yes, including RP. It's the mindset of change. So, not supporting impeachment is just cementing the disease deeper into the cells of this Nation.
The time to stand up and demand immediate change is right now. Not tomorrow. And, only a small handful of brave people are doing anything about it. I very much respect what Gravel and Kucinich are doing and IMHO anyone who doesn't needs to think long and hard about reality and what's really happening here.
This country needs change and it needs awareness. Two presidential candidates calling for impeachment on the same day is a good thing and a very smart use of power for the combined efforts of Kucinich and Gravel. I wish every candidate who drops from the race would ring the bell of impeachment on their way out the door while they still have some of the spotlight to draw attention to the fact that this once great country built on democracy is very, very near collapsing in on itself and our children may never know the freedoms we grew up BELIEVING in.
Go Gravel! Go Kucinich! Who will be next???- Shay2, on 01/25/2008, -1/+7Gravel's NOT dropping out. He'll be in it until November- he's hinted at becoming 3rd party. Gravel in '08!
- NotAChickenHawk, on 01/25/2008, -2/+21"Without Impeachment before we choose the next Administration, we as a Nation will be setting a legal precedent. We will saying yes to the systematic destruction of the Constitution and Bill of Rights engineered by Vice President Cheney and President Bush, and will be formally agreeing to the end of American Democracy. We, as Americans, will be giving our approval and consent to the idea that the Vice President and President are indeed above the law, that they are in fact a law unto themselves. "
If these words were spoken by Hillary, or Obama, or Romney, or McCain, they would not be dismissed so easily - and they are no less legitimate if Mike Gravel says them instead. The truth is the truth and what's right is right no matter who speaks it.- goptexan1, on 01/26/2008, -2/+1The administsration is not above the law, but what about this spineless Congress you elected? They've done everything but help the situation. Bush does not have total authority. Bush turned liberal and then you elected worse liberals to congress! What can you expect, you did it, afterall.
- GrandCzar, on 01/25/2008, -1/+3"If We The People do not take action to demand accountability in the form of Impeachment, we become passive accomplices to the silent overthrow of American Democracy."
WORD! - n0gnuz, on 01/25/2008, -3/+4Great. Can we also do something with the Israeli operatives in the White House who orchestrated this war: Elliot Abrams, John Hannah, David Wurmser, and Elliot Cohen?
Daniel Levy, former advisor in the Israeli PM office: 'If Rice is getting too active with her peace-making quest, then T+T (Yoram Turbowitz [Olmert's chief of staff] and Shalom Turgeman [Olmert's diplomatic advisor]) can always be dispatched to Elliot Abrams at the White House, who in turn will enlist Cheney to keep the president in tow.'
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?ite ...
Funny how we always want to hang Othello, but overlook Iago. - gkiltz, on 01/25/2008, -8/+1It's a free country! He can "Call For" anything at all.
The fact that he's not a serious candidate and has not collected more than 2% support anywhere does not matter--Bottom line: It's an election year for congress also, next week is the 1st of February! It would be naive at best, if not downright delusional to even consider holding an impeachment trial in the lame duck session, and making Dick Cheney president for a month!!
I know that you hate George W Bush more than you hate any 5 other things except yourself!
You have a right to your opinions.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it's time to grow up now and think about what you'll be doing a year from now -
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