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- jlfb, on 06/05/2008, -4/+43unfortunately, I fear you are correct THEPEACEMAKER as an American-born person of Jewish descent I am sad to see zionist warmongering in perpetuity. Surely there are peaceful alternatives to these problems. Let's seperate "Zionism" from "being Jewish." They are not the same thing. I am guessing that the vast majority of civilian populations the world over share similar concerns and opposition to the corporate war-for-profit we currently see more often than not.
- magicjohnson, on 06/05/2008, -19/+49I'm glad we don't have Bush in for another four years; he'd completely disregard poll data and go guns blazing into Iran
- xwfilm, on 06/06/2008, -2/+2621 million people want us to bomb Iran?
- Halbermunken, on 06/06/2008, -7/+27All it takes is another fake gulf of tonkin type of event and people will sheepishly ask to spill blood.
- Hangly, on 06/06/2008, -1/+21Ah I see. Iran blacked our eye because it controls its own resources, sets its own prices, makes its own deals and won't let the US spy on them.
Give me a ***** break. I hope you were being sarcastic. - pintomp3, on 06/06/2008, -0/+20wrong, we have been at war with iran. we overthrew their democratically elected government. we shot down one of their passenger airliners. we paid saddam to go to war with them and gave him weapons to use on them. we invaded the countries to the east and west of them and when they offered us a truce, we put them on the "axis of evil". we are the bully, not them.
- LowROI, on 06/06/2008, -9/+28In other news; at least 7% of the US population have no idea what the ***** is going on with the middle east, but will blindly follow the President into another war.
- Hefelumpman, on 06/06/2008, -1/+18http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_population#By_ ...
2.1%
I think it's reasonable to assume that just because someone is Jewish, it doesn't necessarily mean they want Iran to be bombed. - thepeacemaker, on 06/05/2008, -17/+34In the last few days we had all three candidates kowtowing to the Israeli lobby and trying to outzion even the Zionists ...really bizarre and shameful behavior. With the Zionist leash around their necks, candidates of either party will wag their tails and attack Iran, regardless of the American public's interests.
- ZenMojo, on 06/06/2008, -0/+14Haaretz had a poll showing that 67% of Israelis favored diplomacy with Hamas. Meanwhile you've got hardliner ***** in the US and Israel making all of us look like idiots.
- Bodieslikesheep, on 06/06/2008, -3/+17"So what?" - Dick Cheney
Read the quote from the Nazi general from the Nuremburg trials...
It never is the will of the people to go to war, always the leaders...
Ron Paul says that it wasn't the American people who invented this war on terror, only a select few, namely the Neo-cons, but the American people shouldn't be punished....but the leadership in Washington.
"Not since WW2 has there been a war to that of the benefit of the American people." - Ron Paul
It is time for the American people to start voting in people who accept and support pro-freedom, pro-liberty values and lead by action, not by words. - Jareth86, on 06/06/2008, -1/+15***** you buddy. I'm Jewish and I do not support military action in Iran of any kind, nor does anyone else I know.
And you know what else; I voted for Obama. Suck it. - rationalist, on 06/06/2008, -1/+1425% of the population still support Bush, and 30% still believe Iraq was behind 9/11. You find the survey surprising? The most surprising thing about is is how low the number of loonies is. Perhaps there is hope after all.
- DalamarArgent, on 06/06/2008, -2/+15Vote McCain for 4 more years of Bush idiocy imo. Another pointless war!
- inactive, on 06/06/2008, -2/+14*if need be*. That's ok, as long as it is not based on imaginary WMDs and lies.
- inactive, on 06/06/2008, -2/+14You're an idiot. Iran is many times stronger than Iraq. They have Moskit/Sunburn missiles which are the most powerful cruise missiles on the planet, and mountains overlooking the Gulf from which to launch them from mobile carriers. Kiss goodbye to the 5th fleet if Iran is attacked. Even Israeli military experts are talking about this, in fact have been talking about it for several years. Iran is many orders of magnitude stronger than Iraq was in the first Gulf War.
In addition, they have something like a million man army. All they have to do is roll across the border and block the overland supply routes to our troops in Iraq (the military planners - thanks Rummy! - decided in their wisdom to have most of the equipage an materiel come overland from Kuwait rather than by air into Iraq). If that happens, then our troops will be pinned, it will be Stalingrad II.
Stop swallowing the propaganda that America will always crush an opponent. You swallowed that going into Iraq against a broken army and a bunch of raghead insurgents - and 4000 dead soldiers later we still haven't won. The Iranian army is significantly more powerful and well equipped. If we go against Iran, whatever the idiots in power say, there will HAVE to be 'boots on ground', unless we nuke the whole of Iran, which won't happen (not good for Israeli children to be playing in fallout). - Bodieslikesheep, on 06/06/2008, -0/+12There is a lot of aggresion and intimidation in your post....
You may be able to scare those who are ignorant, but the people who know something are aware that no one is to blame here but big government.
Al-Quada was created by the U.S. in the 70's....There was an english coup backed by Truman in the 50's by the CIA. Google it.
Everything we face is a result of our actions. When we will be put down the guns, and start to realize that continueing these acts weighing so heavily on humanity are the wrong choice.
The only way we can make in difference in the U.S. is by electing or running as candidates promoting TRUE change from the constitution up. - Nerys, on 06/06/2008, -3/+15I have a simple solution for Iran. LEAVE THEM THE ***** ALONE. Its NONE of our god damned business. Is that so hard ? but then w could not continue to siphon all this money into private organizations raping the american people.
When we have not one single NUKE left then and ONLY then will we have even the SLIGHTEST bit of place to discuss others posessing nukes. Period. - ExRe, on 06/06/2008, -4/+15I am actually surprised that this number is so low. I know a lot of crazies who think we need to bomb Iran and a few who want to nuke the entire middle east.
- digitronix, on 06/06/2008, -0/+11More appropriate question: What % of the US population is Zionist?
- Murdats, on 06/06/2008, -3/+14Your point? its a republican who got us into Iraq
- nblsavage, on 06/06/2008, -4/+15Of course if the poll was taken by a right-wing org and someone called them on it, you'd be the first to defend the results wouldn't you Spaz 'ol shoe?
- rationalist, on 06/06/2008, -3/+13The thing I like most about Spaza is his predictability - he never deviates from making lists of statements that are 100% wrong. Must take an admirable degree of effort to be so consistent.
Forget the fact that the survey, which was funded by several organizations including the conservative publication Foreign Affairs, was conducted by famous, respected, veteran pollster Daniel Yankelovich.
The accuracy of a poll does not depend upon its sample size but rather on both the representativeness and randomness of the sample (and, no, those aren't contradictory). If sample size were the only measure of accuracy, then Digger's collective opinions would be more representative of the entire US population than any poll you'd read. Surely you aren't saying we are all right and you are wrong, Spaza? No, you are simply ignorant of how polls work.
But, wait, what is this on page 21 of the actual PDF of the survey, which was linked right at the top of the article you obviously didn't even read, much less click through to?
"This sixth edition of the study was based on telephone interviews conducted between March 18, 2008 and April 1, 2008 among a nationally representative sample of 1,006 adults, 18 years and older. It covered over 25 different issues in more than 110 different survey questions. The margin of error for this study is ±3%. "
I'd say "pwned", but that is too mild a word to describe the depth of your foolishness. Instead, I'll just say that you make McCain seem positively brilliant by comparison - inactive, on 06/06/2008, -2/+12"The danger from Iran is grave, it is real, and my goal will be to eliminate this threat," Obama said in a speech to a conference of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, a pro-Israel lobby group.
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSWAT0095 ... - benecere, on 06/06/2008, -0/+10You ARE aware that Iran made every concession that we are asking -- plus some, and they did it before we ever even asked, You know that, RIGHT?
Chaney turned 'em down flat. The only reason I can fathom for his doing that is because war is a profit-maker for Halliburton, damn fun for Dick, and any lives lost are of the common kind, thus expendable. Dick is evil! Those who elected him are suspect as far as I'm concerned, since he's always been evil.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/artic ... - pintomp3, on 06/06/2008, -0/+9please don't confuse zionists with jews. there are more christian zionists in the US than jewish zionists. there are also plain old chickenhawk war mongers who watch fox news.
- Halbermunken, on 06/06/2008, -5/+14No of course not. But it doesn't help when the entire imperialistic PNAC neocon agenda is based on Machivellian/Straussian deception.
They lied about Iraq and their lying about Iran. Too bad since it doesn't really help US interests, not even safety. Operation Ajax one blowbacked miserable and so would a more major plan setup by the neocons. - l800LEMMINGS, on 06/06/2008, -2/+11probably the same 7% that swears by fox news and think it's manifest destiny for world domination
- TonyLocNE, on 06/06/2008, -1/+10So... We're going to war with Iran?
- Bodieslikesheep, on 06/06/2008, -9/+18Obama is heavily backed by the CFR - which supports the Neo-con philisophy of divide and conquer. They believe western ideals should be shared down the barrel of a gun.
McCain is nothing but a CFR military-industrial complex puppet.
Don't kid yourself for a second that there are other "average-American" supporter candidates other than Ron Paul in this election. - And Yes, he is on the ballent.....and NO, he has not dropped out. - Hangly, on 06/06/2008, -1/+9I don't think so, not this time. That boy has cried wolf one too many times.
- FishThePirate, on 06/06/2008, -0/+8Iran is not a threat. To some of it's neighbors maybe. To us, no. They won't use nuclear weapons, even if they had them. The country is a theocracy, the Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is the one who's really calling the shots and he has said on numerous occasions that nuclear weapons are incompatible with the Islamic faith. He blames the United States for many economic problems in Iran, but he does not want a war. Ahmadinejad is the elected figurehead of the government, but that doesn't mean he has total control. I suggest that everyone read for themselves about the policies of the Ayatollah. You may actually start to understand more about Iran, and (dare I say it) realize that Islam is not the big scary enemy of the "free world" that the media wants you to think it is. Go, READ for yourselves, YOU ask the questions, don't wait for others to feed you the question AND answer.
Additionally: Have any of you even considered what would happen if Iran used nuclear force against another country? Do you really think they're that stupid? They would be wiped off the face of the planet. The international community wouldn't even debate it. - Nerys, on 06/06/2008, -0/+8Except its for all the wrong reasons. The countries on list #2 ? those were the SMART countries who realized we had NO GOD DAMNED BUSINESS BEING THERE !!!
NOW if the decision was to invade Saudi Arabia (the source of 11 of the 17 terrorists on 9.11) Then MAYBE I would not be so pissed about all this.
Oil? ***** OIL. Bring ALL the troops home. Not just from iraq but from ALL COUNTRIES
THAT will save us what a trillion a year?
NOW MANDATE and FORCE all auto makers to make Electric Cars or CEASE doing business in my god damned country.
There thats another TRILLION dollars saved PER YEAR and massive amounts of pollution ELIMINATED.
Just thin for a moment. Just think for one single moment what would happen if we INFUSED 2 TRILLION dollars a year BACK into our economy Not into the economy of the top 2% of the wealthy but into the economy of the bottom 90% of us drones working our asses off.
The EV alone would save me $3500+ dollars a year and would cost me NOTHING since the payments would be lower than what I pay now in gasoline per month. and this is just the DIRECT savings on my own gasoline spending. NOT the millions and millions of secondary expenses since EVERYTHING from products to shipping to YOU NAME IT would get cheaper. There is NOT ONE THING you can think of that you have to pay for that is not in one way or another affected by having to pay for gasoline. Just you try and name one thing.
Next eliminate the income tax. Eliminate half the laws and departments in our government. Eliminate paid lobbying. Make it a felony of the highest degree to "pass" or "vote" a law without being FULLY aware of what it is your voting or passing.
Make ALL laws absolutely accountable to the EXACT NO interpretation wording of the constitution AS IS HOW ITS SUPPOSED TO BE DONE.
If its unclear the process is in place to make it clear its called an amendment. USE IT. Stop ignoring it and doing whatever the hell they want to do.
Repeal the patriot act. Repeal the mill come act. Repeal the Telecom act.
Put bush in prison as a lesson to future politicians and repeal ALL of his signing letters and ALTER how that process works in the future.
ELIMINATE "Fee Simple" title and Eliminate the "same" format of title for vehicles. RETURN US to allodial title where we ACTUALLY OWN out land and actually OWN our cars.
THATS how you will fix this damned country. - kemp34, on 06/06/2008, -0/+8I agree. That trick needs to die a death that should have happened long ago.
NO MORE GOVERNMENT SPONSORED BS TO ENTER WARS.
I mean, damn... - josereyes0, on 06/06/2008, -4/+11Check again Magic, both of the presumptive nominees are ready to take action against Iran if necessary.
- Laminarcissus, on 06/06/2008, -0/+7I think this explains a lot. In the novel of the same name, the "seven percent solution" referred to the 7 percent cocaine, 93 percent saline solution that Sherlock Holmes injected himself with that induced delusions about the evilness Dr. Moriarty.
I guess Bush and Cheney's drug of choice is different, but they still lead to paranoid delusions of evil masterminds. - Rabbittt, on 06/06/2008, -1/+8Well, it was sorta sarcasm, but mostly it was mockery..
- Hangly, on 06/06/2008, -1/+8Good policy is based on hubris and delusions of grandeur.
- Rabbittt, on 06/06/2008, -11/+18In case anyone doesn't already know, America and Iran are already engaged in warfare, though it is economic and political, rather than military.. And Iran is kicking the ***** out of America right now: they drove out the CIA, they got their oil trading in Euro's, they are making billion dollar deals with China and Russia..
America is flinching and twitching it's trigger finger in response to this black eye it's received.. America has no economic, political, or moral power any more, so the only option for control of an adversary is TOTAL DESTRUCTION.. Pretty simple..
Our ship is going down and the Captain is throwing a temper tantrum on deck.. How quaint a picture.. - Spudster, on 06/06/2008, -0/+7"just like every war we have been in. 1941 and 2001, do you want a 2008 or 2009 like those times? if we are on the defense, we will lose."
So are you telling me that a bunch of poor cave dwelling radical muslims on the otherside of the world have the military and tactical power to take down the United States in the same manner that the whole industrialized nation of Japan attempted and couldn't succeed to do during World War 2?
I'm trying to hold back my laughter. - Laminarcissus, on 06/06/2008, -0/+7I do love it when two bipolars meet on an upswing.
(or one schizophrenic talks to himself) - Fordi, on 06/06/2008, -0/+6(Original comment edited for grammar and spelling - seriously, learn ***** English, man. Hell, at least learn to use paragraph breaks...)
"You know MJ, I hope that one day, either Hamas or another faction from Iran bombs the ***** out of your city and everyone you care for - except yourself - dies, so you can eat your words."
Nice sentiment there. Do you wish death on many people? I mean, I'd make an argument here, but the liklihood of anyone eating their words here is slim. MJ won't because he won't be wrong, and you won't because you don't have enough room in your mouth, with all the ***** and bile streaming out of it.
"It's sad, but I think it will take something like that for this country to wake up. We have, over the past 7 years, been taking the fight to them - just like every war we have been in."
Yes! Brilliant! The best way to protect yourself is to START fights! Why didn't anyone think of that before?! Oh, right. The USMC did. Forgot about them.
"Remember 1941 and 2001? Do you want a 2008 or 2009 like those times?"
You're seriously logistically comparing Pearl Harbor to the Twin Towers? Do you know NOTHING of history?
"If we are on the defense, we will lose, and that is what yours and many like you lefties think: 'Oh just be calm and quiet, maybe they wont hear us and pass us by; that screwed up religion has been at war for a thousand years, thats all they know.'"
Actually, what us 'lefties' think is, "There is no proper reason to attack the sovereignty of another state unless that state is taking action against us." Since Iran is not, I don't see why we need to attack them.
"You dumb liberals signed the same thing Bush did, so dont play off that you were tricked. If you were truly tricked, you are dumb. Isreal will take care of Iran, don't you worry about that."
No, I'm quite sure *I* wasn't tricked. And you know what? I subsequently voted against every incumbent in the following election - as did many others.
"The good thing here is that now that we have Iraq a democratic nation - OMFG, did i just say a democratic nation?!?!?! Holy *****, has that ever been done in HISTORY there??? - because if they weren't, then it would be Israel fighting Iraq, Iran, and Syria... "
Don't know your history that well, do you? Iraq was a Republic from 1958 to 1963, when the US helped to install the dictatorship that eventually became Hussein's reign. That's close enough to a Democracy for the US to claim the title (we're a Democratic Republic, FYI, not a pure democracy - which would suck ass).
"Just suck it up and realize that it took YEARS in Europe to clean up after the 2 wars, but look at it now."
Yes. Because World Wars I and II are similar to the recent wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Do you have no sense of scale?
"You damn peace whackos, move to ***** Holland or something; get out of my country where men and women fight for something; get out of a country that had to fight battles time after time, to give you what you have today; ..."
How about you GTFO of the US? You like to go on about how people fight for 'something'... well, guess what: that something is the Constitution, part of which is the Bill of Rights.
You can claim you fought for 'freedom' or 'security' or 'prosperity' or whatever other nebulous cause makes you feel self-righteous - but you were fighting in defense of the US Constitution and in defense of its people.
The fact that you can then come home and intellectually *trample* on that document, *decry* those rights, and *insult* those same people - this indicates to me that you were a morally unfit soldier, soldier.
"... and stop bashing Bush, he was a lot better than 1/2 the presidents we ever had. Be glad Bush was more moderate than Reagan, because Reagan would have had the middle east beggin' for our forgiveness..."
I honestly don't know how you can defend Bush. He's a proven liar - or at least a proven idiot for passing mistruths unchecked. He sent us into Iraq, with forged evidence and despite the world intelligence community. He's presently *breaking* the economy... eh. I don't feel like listing his crimes against the office of the President *again*. Just, you know, read a ***** book or something, man.
I don't know; I hate to use the ad hominem here, but I guess that MARINES does, in fact, stand for "Muscles Are Required, Intelligence Not Essential, Sir!" - cheezintern, on 06/06/2008, -1/+7It's part of the job. The candidate that is the biggest friend of Israel wins mega political contributions for themselves and the party. You'd be kowtowing too if you were a candidate.
- pintomp3, on 06/06/2008, -0/+5that's because the press is more free in israel than it is here. you can find more opposition to israel's policies in israel than you can find in the states. groups like AIPAC represent neither the jews in america nor the jews in israel. they make america, israel, and the entire middle east less safe. they also create misplaced animosity towards jews, the same way islamic terrorists create animosity towards muslims.
- RickyBarnes1960, on 06/06/2008, -0/+5That would be an encouraging survey result if it, in fact, represents genuine truths of opinion among the entire population. That is one for debate. Those who advocate preemptive action forget that, to be consistent, one ought to advocate such action in all occasions of perceived threat. Unfortunately, there are perceived threats among radical reactionaries right here at home. That would seem a rather more pressing problem and, in any event, would leave few among us safe from reprisals. At any rate, those who pressure for preemptive military action are usually the same among us who have little understanding of authentic and effective reasoning skills.
Let us not descend to punishing crimes before they have been committed. That's a road few but the thoroughly insane will survive. - Spudster, on 06/06/2008, -0/+5You've got to be kidding me! Peace and understanding is the right answer to Iran? Towelheads are real human beings like us and are not hellbent on destroying us? Stop indoctrinating us with your lies, it's clear that you hate America and want us to lose the war on terror. I bet you don't even wear a flagpin...
- monoa, on 06/06/2008, -1/+6lol. Does Spaza *ever* not get buried, except on posts with 3 Diggs where the only other commenters are right wing, neocon, fascist half-wits?
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