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- 7come11, on 07/16/2008, -3/+47This isn't that surprising considering McCain has espoused Bush's policies from the get go
- neognostic, on 07/16/2008, -3/+33Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me three times, just shoot me. (I never voted for him BTW, not even for Governor)
- jcannonb, on 07/16/2008, -1/+21Duh? Maybe they believe that because he will?
- JigoroKano, on 07/17/2008, -1/+13Buried for not understanding the power of statistics.
If the 1,800 is an unbiased, random sample, then it is more than enough to get a good estimate for even an infinite population. - relaxeder, on 04/17/2009, -2/+13John McCain says openly that he shares far more in common with President Bush than he disagrees with him, so that's hardly news.
- BossKey, on 07/17/2008, -0/+10Uh, let's see...yet another four years of war and recession (hallmarks of both G. H .W. Bush and G. W. Bush)...
...no thanks - Lyk4n, on 07/17/2008, -1/+10ZOMG! Obama's a Muslim Communist Drug Abusing Socialist Liberal Facist Hippy African American Arab American Hating Black Panther!! Wait.. What? When will you and your kind get tired of spreading lies? If it takes lying to win do you still sleep at night? Think about this: if your side has to lie to win, are you on the right side? Does your side even deserve to be heard anymore?
- rearlgrant, on 07/16/2008, -2/+11A comment worthy of the name AssJuice.
- Alphabet, on 07/17/2008, -0/+7You need to enroll in a college and take some statistic classes.
- miamidolfan13, on 07/17/2008, -0/+5http://www.bluetidalwave.com/2008/07/mccains-lobby ...
- pintomp3, on 07/17/2008, -2/+7According to CQ, Senator John McCain has voted with President Bush 100% of the time in 2008 and 95% of the time in 2007.
- Lyk4n, on 07/17/2008, -1/+5His voting record from 10 years ago isn't important anymore.. Opinions change to fast in the political world for that ***** to matter..
- Clugenheim, on 07/17/2008, -6/+10Poll: 100% of me says both candidates suck
Probably the only 100% true poll in all of polling history. - rearlgrant, on 07/16/2008, -0/+4Given your voting record, I'll take odds on your fate. ;-)
- mst3kcrow, on 07/17/2008, -1/+5I am in the same boat. McCain sold out to Bush (see his opinion on CIA and water boarding, his vast support of other piss poor Executive decisions). Obama sold out to the telcos (see FISA). Now two candidates that I would like to see: McCain with the Repubs (pre sellout, torture is wrong McCain) and Clark with the Dems. I am writing in Russ Feingold as he is the only person besides Wesley Clark I have confidence in as president. I would like to vote for Bob Barr as the Libertarian nominee but he has way too many problems with his political history.
- Rotzooi, on 07/17/2008, -0/+3A maverick, LOL. McCain is part of the same extreme ring-wing neocon clique as Bush is.
- Lyk4n, on 07/17/2008, -0/+3Man, I was hoping for Rick.. Who wants to watch Hitler when Rick Astley is out there somewhere just waiting to sing for you?
Here, in case anyone else feels cheated:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0 - jamessavik, on 07/17/2008, -0/+3Dole and Bush were bitter rivals with McCain in past primaries because they had very different ideas about how things should be done. McCain lost to Dole and Bush in those primaries because he was "too liberal" for the republican base.
- LilJimmyNordin, on 07/17/2008, -0/+2And it has that undeniable ring of truth, too.
- rewinn, on 07/18/2008, -0/+2McCain can't fool ALL the people ALL the time.
But he hopes he can fool ENOUGH, so that voter suppression efforts can win it for him. - LunaticFringe, on 07/17/2008, -0/+2We live in an age where politics is once against flipping. Republicans are now fiscally liberal and Democrats are now fiscally conservative. It's quite cute that nobody else has the balls to say it. Where Democrats want to preserve the prosperity of America by securing the economy and expanding to renewable sources of energy, Republicans want to spew out money in every direction to continue grasping at their precious oil.
Spoilers: The US is the only country to have such a low tax rate. The trade off is that the country doesn't hold any economic security. The Republicans dangle low taxes and people bite without thinking where that money comes from. It's part of the reason we spend far more than we bring in, and it's one of the likely ways we'll enter a second Great Depression. - vinod1978, on 07/18/2008, -0/+2@Pusod - If anything Bush is more similar to Hitler then Obama.
Bush has invaded countries, killed innocent civilians to be killed, and is perpetuating the hatred of Islam. That seems closer to Hitler then Obama who wants to get us out of Iraq, and bring the country together. - AmerPatriot55, on 07/17/2008, -0/+2Obama is ALSO a CFR member! Check it out! That is why the NWO/Rockefeller/CFR boys told him to vote for the FISA if he wanted to stay ahead in their horse and pony show, even though he had PROMISED his followers that he would NOT vote for this TERRIBLE piece of legislation!
Change he will NOT! It's just a word, and he will break his promises again and again! Ask him about the Federal Reserve, NOT a government agency but a group of PRIVATE BANKSTERS! They CREATE inflation, bubbles, deflation, recession, and coming soon to America, DEPRESSION when the Fed bails out Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae at 5 TRILLION that the American taxpayers will have the additional burden! - vinod1978, on 07/18/2008, -0/+1@BotchaMcCoola - Have you looked?
1. Libertarians do not support having government invest in renewable resources.
2. They believe that the government should have absolutely no say in our children education.
3. Have no heath care plan. They believe the market will decide what to do. (How is that different then what is happening now?)
4. They want to remove social security & Medicare - which would leave millions of fixed income Americans either homeless or worse, dead.
5. They believe that the US should never interfere in foreign issues, and while I believe that now we are involved too much, libertarians want to go to the other extreme by doing absolutely nothing.
6. They believe in complete deregulation and remove the need for licenses. They didn't go into specifics on their site - but what does that mean? Anyone can start selling alcohol, tobacco, or pharmaceuticals without having any oversight?
source: http://www.lp.org/platform
Granted - they have some good points, but overall their system would destroy the country even worse then the current administration. Besides their actual policies, do you think they would ever get any traction? No. Your vote has been made, and it has been wasted. Thanks for playing. - NoDisk, on 07/17/2008, -0/+1I recommend learning about the film prior to dedicating 2 hours to its execution.
Therefore:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeitgeist_The_Movie
And, for the record, it DOES contain numerous factual errors.
But it's still interesting. Plus, George Carlin. - HallEffected, on 07/17/2008, -2/+3zeitgeist has so many factual errors it's ridiculous
- vinod1978, on 07/18/2008, -0/+1I was about to Digg you up, but then you said "libertarian"...
- vinod1978, on 07/18/2008, -0/+1@goofrey137 - Remember that election polls that a small percentage of a diverse set of people and then they use formulas to populate what the entire country would do. That's how they get their numbers. The formulas that they are using to come up with these percentages of support do NOT take in consideration the large African American community that would turn out, and the large young people that would turn out to vote for Obama. Remember that democrats voted twice as much as republicans (except for Florida & Michigan), and those numbers have not been calculated into these polls.
This is the 1st time in a long time where the polling numbers regarding an election are absolutely worthless. - inactive, on 07/17/2008, -0/+1Hmmm... I went to the website and looked at their sources. Which ones do you think are wrong?
- vinod1978, on 07/18/2008, -0/+1@ patpl22391 - So he he wants to stop global warming by drilling more oil that will increase our carbon footprint? He says one thing and means another. Maybe that is why you are so confused. Don't just listen to any politician one time - continue to see if they change their story...and McCain DID. In 2000, even I as a liberal liked him. But the McCain of 2000 is not the McCain of 2008.
- eviltandem, on 07/17/2008, -0/+1He was considered a maverick. Then he started running for president. Now he's about as Bush/neo-con as you can get.
- mithrasinvictus, on 07/17/2008, -1/+2Theres an old saying in tennesee, I know its in texas probably in tennesee. It goes: "Fool me once, shame on, shame on, you, you can fool me but you can't get fooled again"
- Lyk4n, on 07/17/2008, -0/+1They won't work in a world as advanced as ours, maybe 200 years ago, but not anymore.. A nation must take car of its citizens, especially the homeless and invalid..
- goofrey137, on 07/17/2008, -1/+1and yet obama isnt slaughtering him. how does does he get more than the 20% that support bush to back him?
- insinuate, on 07/17/2008, -1/+1Zeitgeist is just another Loose Change, a peice of *****..
- eviltandem, on 07/17/2008, -4/+4@pintomp3
So I'm supposed to ignore where he stands on issues today, and instead focus on where he stood on issues years ago? Ignore how he tells us he will vote and act today, and instead vote based on how he would have acted and voted years ago?
Rationalize much? McCain is not this guy you seem to think he is. - Iztikeit, on 07/17/2008, -1/+1"He's more popular than JESUS!!!!"
- Lyk4n, on 07/17/2008, -1/+1With how terrible our government does anything, including hiding lies and keeping secrets do you really think there are people sitting back and planning anything? We can't even airlift bottled water to NO let alone plan the whole world's take over..
- radiofrequency, on 07/17/2008, -3/+2Barack Obama is "different" from Bush only because he's affiliated with the democratic party. In reality, he's as easily manipulated, naive, and inexperienced as George Bush was at the start of his presidency.
After Obama's egghead advisors are through with him he'll understand less about his positions than he does today. Look at his flip flops during the campaign alone. Compare Obama's career with that of John Edwards or Hillary Clinton and you'll see he's an empty suit running on personality. The road to Hell is paved with good intentions. - HallEffected, on 07/17/2008, -2/+1who ever said that the president runs the country? i always thought congress were the ones who pass the legislation... and it'd be awfully hard for the illuminati/evil underground lizardjews/whoever you think is running the world to rig nearly 600 elections every few years..
- BotchaMcCoola, on 07/17/2008, -1/+0-100
Please have a closer look at Libertarian positions. - mwrl, on 07/17/2008, -5/+3Lets face facts, no matter who wins, we all lose.
- BotchaMcCoola, on 07/17/2008, -3/+1These jokes are getting a bit lame. Plus it appears some of the lower classes actually believe Obama is a Muslim. Please consider the Libertarian positions.
- henrikakselsen, on 07/17/2008, -4/+1***** YOU FRANK!
- BotchaMcCoola, on 07/17/2008, -3/+0I think you may be pleasantly surprised by the Libertarian positions.
- patpl22391, on 07/17/2008, -6/+2Why is he considered a maverick then if he has "espoused Bush's policies from the get go"? McCain is NOT like Bush. Several reasons why I did not support him in the primaries -- He believes that we have to "stop global warming!!", and he is still opposed to drilling in ANWR, campaign finance reform is a limit on our first amendment rights. He was apart of the gang of 14. He has not been a reliable conservative by any means. That's probably why he still has a good chance to win his election, he's in the middle of the road, while Obama (while rushing to the center) is still pretty far to the left on the issues.
- patpl22391, on 07/17/2008, -6/+2feel free to add all the years, not just the last two.
- clippypog, on 07/17/2008, -8/+3why put a spin on Obama at all? -Obama's made the far more intelligent choice. Not standing for anything at all, he's quite smart about knowing people elect a government nowadays because of what it can do for them.
- Idiggapony, on 07/17/2008, -8/+3I still don't really understand which candidate thinkprogress.org supports. Please put a few hundred more thinkprogress.org articles on the front page, so that I can try to figure it out.
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