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Poll: Americans Believe McCain Will Continue Bush's Legacy
thinkprogress.org — Recently, the McCain campaign tried to distance Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) from President Bush ’s record, claiming that Sen Barack Obama (D-IL), not McCain, would constitute a third Bush term. But Americans aren’t buying the spin.
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- 7come11, on 07/16/2008, -3/+47This isn't that surprising considering McCain has espoused Bush's policies from the get go
- Idiggapony, on 07/17/2008, -12/+3It's fine if you hate Bush, hate McCain too, and plan to vote Democrat. There are plenty of reasons for doing so. But why go and say something so utterly wrong as this? McCain and Bush have very different political views. They were bitter political rivals in 2000. They appeal to completely different groups of voters. Of all the various ways in which the frenzy-inducing left-wing sites like thinkprogress are trying to get people to vote against McCain, this "same as Bush" thing is one of the least convincing.
- patpl22391, on 07/17/2008, -6/+2Why is he considered a maverick then if he has "espoused Bush's policies from the get go"? McCain is NOT like Bush. Several reasons why I did not support him in the primaries -- He believes that we have to "stop global warming!!", and he is still opposed to drilling in ANWR, campaign finance reform is a limit on our first amendment rights. He was apart of the gang of 14. He has not been a reliable conservative by any means. That's probably why he still has a good chance to win his election, he's in the middle of the road, while Obama (while rushing to the center) is still pretty far to the left on the issues.
- Rotzooi, on 07/17/2008, -0/+3A maverick, LOL. McCain is part of the same extreme ring-wing neocon clique as Bush is.
- eviltandem, on 07/17/2008, -0/+1He was considered a maverick. Then he started running for president. Now he's about as Bush/neo-con as you can get.
- vinod1978, on 07/18/2008, -0/+1@ patpl22391 - So he he wants to stop global warming by drilling more oil that will increase our carbon footprint? He says one thing and means another. Maybe that is why you are so confused. Don't just listen to any politician one time - continue to see if they change their story...and McCain DID. In 2000, even I as a liberal liked him. But the McCain of 2000 is not the McCain of 2008.
- pintomp3, on 07/17/2008, -2/+7According to CQ, Senator John McCain has voted with President Bush 100% of the time in 2008 and 95% of the time in 2007.
- patpl22391, on 07/17/2008, -6/+2feel free to add all the years, not just the last two.
- Lyk4n, on 07/17/2008, -1/+5His voting record from 10 years ago isn't important anymore.. Opinions change to fast in the political world for that ***** to matter..
- eviltandem, on 07/17/2008, -4/+4@pintomp3
So I'm supposed to ignore where he stands on issues today, and instead focus on where he stood on issues years ago? Ignore how he tells us he will vote and act today, and instead vote based on how he would have acted and voted years ago?
Rationalize much? McCain is not this guy you seem to think he is.
- rewinn, on 07/18/2008, -0/+2McCain can't fool ALL the people ALL the time.
But he hopes he can fool ENOUGH, so that voter suppression efforts can win it for him.
- neognostic, on 07/16/2008, -3/+33Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me three times, just shoot me. (I never voted for him BTW, not even for Governor)
- rearlgrant, on 07/16/2008, -0/+4Given your voting record, I'll take odds on your fate. ;-)
- mithrasinvictus, on 07/17/2008, -1/+2Theres an old saying in tennesee, I know its in texas probably in tennesee. It goes: "Fool me once, shame on, shame on, you, you can fool me but you can't get fooled again"
- jcannonb, on 07/16/2008, -1/+21Duh? Maybe they believe that because he will?
- AssJuice, on 07/16/2008, -21/+3Well we know Obama is Done. I wonder if he will turn into Gore Gain some weight and go back to his roots slinging Rock and abusing his wife. I guess we will need to wait and see.
- rearlgrant, on 07/16/2008, -2/+11A comment worthy of the name AssJuice.
- Monk22, on 07/16/2008, -17/+3Poll: 1,800 Americans Do Not Constitue The Opinion Of All Of America
fixed.
buried as well for a worthless poll base of 1,800 people pretending that is somehow even close to covering the opinion of 300 million.- JigoroKano, on 07/17/2008, -1/+13Buried for not understanding the power of statistics.
If the 1,800 is an unbiased, random sample, then it is more than enough to get a good estimate for even an infinite population. - LilJimmyNordin, on 07/17/2008, -0/+2And it has that undeniable ring of truth, too.
- Alphabet, on 07/17/2008, -0/+7You need to enroll in a college and take some statistic classes.
- JigoroKano, on 07/17/2008, -1/+13Buried for not understanding the power of statistics.
- Clugenheim, on 07/17/2008, -6/+10Poll: 100% of me says both candidates suck
Probably the only 100% true poll in all of polling history.- mst3kcrow, on 07/17/2008, -1/+5I am in the same boat. McCain sold out to Bush (see his opinion on CIA and water boarding, his vast support of other piss poor Executive decisions). Obama sold out to the telcos (see FISA). Now two candidates that I would like to see: McCain with the Repubs (pre sellout, torture is wrong McCain) and Clark with the Dems. I am writing in Russ Feingold as he is the only person besides Wesley Clark I have confidence in as president. I would like to vote for Bob Barr as the Libertarian nominee but he has way too many problems with his political history.
- soot, on 07/17/2008, -2/+13John McCain says openly that he shares far more in common with President Bush than he disagrees with him, so that's hardly news.
- Idiggapony, on 07/17/2008, -8/+3I still don't really understand which candidate thinkprogress.org supports. Please put a few hundred more thinkprogress.org articles on the front page, so that I can try to figure it out.
- Pusod, on 07/17/2008, -11/+2OOOOOOHHHH NOOOOO! I think Obama will be MUCH worse than Bush... Watch this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTp_atr2G9E- Lyk4n, on 07/17/2008, -0/+3Man, I was hoping for Rick.. Who wants to watch Hitler when Rick Astley is out there somewhere just waiting to sing for you?
Here, in case anyone else feels cheated:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0 - Iztikeit, on 07/17/2008, -1/+1"He's more popular than JESUS!!!!"
- vinod1978, on 07/18/2008, -0/+2@Pusod - If anything Bush is more similar to Hitler then Obama.
Bush has invaded countries, killed innocent civilians to be killed, and is perpetuating the hatred of Islam. That seems closer to Hitler then Obama who wants to get us out of Iraq, and bring the country together.
- Lyk4n, on 07/17/2008, -0/+3Man, I was hoping for Rick.. Who wants to watch Hitler when Rick Astley is out there somewhere just waiting to sing for you?
- Zanzabar33, on 07/17/2008, -9/+2what they dont tell you is that only 15 people were asked...
- clippypog, on 07/17/2008, -8/+3why put a spin on Obama at all? -Obama's made the far more intelligent choice. Not standing for anything at all, he's quite smart about knowing people elect a government nowadays because of what it can do for them.
- jamessavik, on 07/17/2008, -0/+3Dole and Bush were bitter rivals with McCain in past primaries because they had very different ideas about how things should be done. McCain lost to Dole and Bush in those primaries because he was "too liberal" for the republican base.
- p0s3r, on 07/17/2008, -8/+1Obama has outright stolen Bush's foreign policy and energy policy. Obama really is Bush's 3rd term. Except with more Muslimness.
- Lyk4n, on 07/17/2008, -1/+10ZOMG! Obama's a Muslim Communist Drug Abusing Socialist Liberal Facist Hippy African American Arab American Hating Black Panther!! Wait.. What? When will you and your kind get tired of spreading lies? If it takes lying to win do you still sleep at night? Think about this: if your side has to lie to win, are you on the right side? Does your side even deserve to be heard anymore?
- BotchaMcCoola, on 07/17/2008, -3/+1These jokes are getting a bit lame. Plus it appears some of the lower classes actually believe Obama is a Muslim. Please consider the Libertarian positions.
- vinod1978, on 07/18/2008, -0/+1I was about to Digg you up, but then you said "libertarian"...
- henrikakselsen, on 07/17/2008, -4/+1***** YOU FRANK!
- BossKey, on 07/17/2008, -0/+10Uh, let's see...yet another four years of war and recession (hallmarks of both G. H .W. Bush and G. W. Bush)...
...no thanks - addicted68098, on 07/17/2008, -7/+1Obama = Bush
McCain = Bush
Bush = ?- BotchaMcCoola, on 07/17/2008, -1/+0-100
Please have a closer look at Libertarian positions.- Lyk4n, on 07/17/2008, -0/+1They won't work in a world as advanced as ours, maybe 200 years ago, but not anymore.. A nation must take car of its citizens, especially the homeless and invalid..
- vinod1978, on 07/18/2008, -0/+1@BotchaMcCoola - Have you looked?
1. Libertarians do not support having government invest in renewable resources.
2. They believe that the government should have absolutely no say in our children education.
3. Have no heath care plan. They believe the market will decide what to do. (How is that different then what is happening now?)
4. They want to remove social security & Medicare - which would leave millions of fixed income Americans either homeless or worse, dead.
5. They believe that the US should never interfere in foreign issues, and while I believe that now we are involved too much, libertarians want to go to the other extreme by doing absolutely nothing.
6. They believe in complete deregulation and remove the need for licenses. They didn't go into specifics on their site - but what does that mean? Anyone can start selling alcohol, tobacco, or pharmaceuticals without having any oversight?
source: http://www.lp.org/platform
Granted - they have some good points, but overall their system would destroy the country even worse then the current administration. Besides their actual policies, do you think they would ever get any traction? No. Your vote has been made, and it has been wasted. Thanks for playing.
- BotchaMcCoola, on 07/17/2008, -1/+0-100
- mwrl, on 07/17/2008, -5/+3Lets face facts, no matter who wins, we all lose.
- BotchaMcCoola, on 07/17/2008, -3/+0I think you may be pleasantly surprised by the Libertarian positions.
- miamidolfan13, on 07/17/2008, -0/+5http://www.bluetidalwave.com/2008/07/mccains-lobby ...
- LunaticFringe, on 07/17/2008, -0/+2We live in an age where politics is once against flipping. Republicans are now fiscally liberal and Democrats are now fiscally conservative. It's quite cute that nobody else has the balls to say it. Where Democrats want to preserve the prosperity of America by securing the economy and expanding to renewable sources of energy, Republicans want to spew out money in every direction to continue grasping at their precious oil.
Spoilers: The US is the only country to have such a low tax rate. The trade off is that the country doesn't hold any economic security. The Republicans dangle low taxes and people bite without thinking where that money comes from. It's part of the reason we spend far more than we bring in, and it's one of the likely ways we'll enter a second Great Depression. - radiofrequency, on 07/17/2008, -3/+2Barack Obama is "different" from Bush only because he's affiliated with the democratic party. In reality, he's as easily manipulated, naive, and inexperienced as George Bush was at the start of his presidency.
After Obama's egghead advisors are through with him he'll understand less about his positions than he does today. Look at his flip flops during the campaign alone. Compare Obama's career with that of John Edwards or Hillary Clinton and you'll see he's an empty suit running on personality. The road to Hell is paved with good intentions. - goofrey137, on 07/17/2008, -1/+1and yet obama isnt slaughtering him. how does does he get more than the 20% that support bush to back him?
- vinod1978, on 07/18/2008, -0/+1@goofrey137 - Remember that election polls that a small percentage of a diverse set of people and then they use formulas to populate what the entire country would do. That's how they get their numbers. The formulas that they are using to come up with these percentages of support do NOT take in consideration the large African American community that would turn out, and the large young people that would turn out to vote for Obama. Remember that democrats voted twice as much as republicans (except for Florida & Michigan), and those numbers have not been calculated into these polls.
This is the 1st time in a long time where the polling numbers regarding an election are absolutely worthless.
- vinod1978, on 07/18/2008, -0/+1@goofrey137 - Remember that election polls that a small percentage of a diverse set of people and then they use formulas to populate what the entire country would do. That's how they get their numbers. The formulas that they are using to come up with these percentages of support do NOT take in consideration the large African American community that would turn out, and the large young people that would turn out to vote for Obama. Remember that democrats voted twice as much as republicans (except for Florida & Michigan), and those numbers have not been calculated into these polls.
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