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- speedofquality, on 03/14/2008, -0/+3I have a feeling that if this plan was as idiotic and irrational as you think you would allow others to see how idiotic and irrational it is. Possibly you are a war monger or have stock in some defense company (which also makes you a war monger) or possibly just a paid (these guys got billions) individual who does nothing but run around and bury Ron Paul threads all day? If you are... shame on you, you should be hanged for treason against your country (after you've had a fair trial and been found guilty by 12 of your peers of course).
- MissaMarissa, on 03/20/2008, -0/+2Delegates do NOT have to vote for McCain. Its party rules, but not laws.
How the hell do you think Lincoln got the nomination? - MsTweetie, on 03/21/2008, -0/+2bingobongony thinks he/she's so smart...
From Restore The Republic website:
WE'RE WINNING THE NOMINATION WITH THE DELEGATE PROCESS EXPLAINED IN DEPTH HERE : A MUST READ
Written by Gary Franchi
Thursday, 20 March 2008
Daily Paul - Dr. Steve Parent - I was an administrator for the Democratic party for over 6 years and i am well educated in the nomination process, I left the party to support Dr. Paul so I know what I am talking about.
Our founding fathers set the system up like this to assure that there would not have false or fraudulent support for a candidate thus forcing THE PEOPLE to become involved in the election process and to show actual support for their candidate.
They wanted to make sure they would protect us from VOTE FRAUD and to make sure that a candidate did not win a beauty contest but instead win an election.
Any candidate and their supporters can do exactly what we are doing if they chose to do so and i am sure from the reports we have received that Mccain does not have real support or he would have the delegates he needs registered as delegates to vote for him in the up coming convention.
If you doubt my post go and research it yourself PLEASE here : http://www.gop.com/images...
PLEASE EVERYONE COPY AND SEND THIS TO THEIR EMAIL LIST AND MEETUP HEADS AND ANY OTHER RON PAUL FORUM THERE IS.
If you can be a delegate because it is too late to register you can still help us at the convention.
Use these 2 links and help us win.
Link : http://www.gopconvention....
Link # 2 : http://msp2008.com/volunt...
I know many of you are new to the election process but don't worry.
I am going to go into some depth of how this all works so read and then read again if you need to.
Did you know that the delegates can actually vote to unbind thier delegates that are bound by state rules? Did you know that delegates can actually overturn and previous vote? Did you know the delegates have control of the entire process?
The MSM is not reporting how to become the nominee in a situation like this so i will tell you to stop getting your info from the MSM.
I know many of you are bummed about Dr. Paul not getting more votes in the states popular vote BUT THAT IS BECAUSE YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW THE ELECTION SYSTEM WORKS : Let me explain to you the reality of how to become the nominee.
First stop looking at who wins each states popular vote for most of these states the vote by the people is really nothing but a straw poll and have no real bearing on who will become the nominee. The only way this matters is if 1 person receives 1191 delegates that are bound by state rules to be committed to that candidate. So if a candidate like McCain now has 906 delegates now but he doesn't reach 1191 WHICH HE WILL NOT most of the delegates the state awarded him mean nothing and keep in mind in most of the states most of the people that represent the 906 for McCain are actually Ron Paul supporters. NOW there is no possible way that anyone in the race can achieve this goal now because of the major split in state wins by the candidates.
Normally Convention Delegates do not matter because the convention is not brokered and we have a clear winner because someone has 1191 delegates. BUT THIS YEAR IS DIFFERENT. This will be a brokered convention there is no way around it. Do you see how the ronpaul campaign strategy will work.
When a candidate wins delegates by winning a primary that does not mean there are actual people that won acting as delegates- these are virtual delegates.
What do I mean by virtual delegates: A virtual delegate is just a number - there are no actual people YET that will go and vote for the candidate who won the particular state at the national convention. We call these people convention delegates
The actual delegates are voted on (in most states) at a statewide delegate caucus after the Primary (which is just a giant preference poll) Who can be delegates? Anyone. In closed Primary states they must be registered Republicans, in Open Primary states they can be Republicans, Democrats, Independents.
View the hard count of actual pledged delegates here : http://www.thegreenpapers...
And we have lots of delegates.
Out of the 2,380 delegates sent to Minneapolis St. Paul in September-
-463 delegates are bound all the way through the convention some of those 463 are Ron Pauls people.
- 565 delegates will be bound through one ballot. That is, they have to follow the results of the state election on the first ballot. After that, if no candidate has a majority of delegates, they are free to vote as they please and McCain will not receive over 50% on the first ballot.
- 383 will be bound through two ballots then they are free to vote for whom they wish.
- 318 will be bound through three ballots then they are free to vote for whom they wish.
I am not going to list every state and what the break downs are, just do the math from these numbers or look for yourself here :
http://www.gop.com/Images...
Bottom line is less than 1/2 of the delegates are bound by state party rules. Now do you see how we can win this thing?
So what happens now you ask? You look at the number of delegates that Dr. Paul has that are uncommitted to the other candidates and will support him. These delegates are not decided by the popular vote ie: straw poll of the people. Since no one will have enough delegates to skate them through to the nomination we now must look at how many delegates NOT VOTES but delegates Dr. Paul has that are 100% uncommited to the other candidates and will be 100% for Dr. Paul and are free to vote for whom they wish.
This race will go all the way to the convention for there is no other way for someone to receive the nomination until the convention.
The RNC will convene its annual Winter Meeting - and voters will continue to cast their ballots in the nation's primaries and caucuses. Candidates for delegate and alternate delegate to the convention will be elected - and thousands of convention participants and guests will begin planning their trips to Minneapolis-Saint Paul The first week in September 2008
SO WHAT DOES ALL THIS MEAN?
This means that all of the people that registered to become a delegate for Dr. Paul can go to the convention and cast their vote for Dr. Paul, now think about what I just said : Do you think for one second that all the people that voted for Dr. Paul and filed to become a delegate will not show up at the convention to vote for the good Doctor? Of course they will just like they battled the rain and the sleet and the 15 below zero winter weather to knock on doors and wave signs spreading our message.
Now I assure you that even though we didn't win the popular vote in many states WE DID PICK UP THE MAJORITY OF DELEGATES THAN ALL THE OTHER CANDIDATES IN MOST EVERY STATE EXCEPT A FEW. So yes they won the straw poll and we won what counts which is delegates.
Doesn't Dr. Paul need to WIN 5 states to be on the ballot at the convention for the nomination?
NO THIS IS NOT TRUE for people were just confused on how it actually works.
We only need the majority of delegates from 5 states to be put on the ballot NOT THE POPULAR VOTE OF 5 STATES and I assure you we have picked up the majority of uncommitted delegates for Dr. Paul in more than 5 states.
Do any of you remember seeing posts by myself and many others that said BECOME A DELEGATE? There is still time in most states to become a delegate for the convention and we are picking up more of them every day.
So please STOP! you worry too much because you do not understand how the election system works and you thought we lost didn't you? I assure you we have not!
The fact is Dr. Paul is a genius in his strategy and we are further ahead in delegates than you think and we can win the nomination.
I hope this gives a better understanding of how we have been winning even though most of you thought we were not.
NOW LET'S KEEP WORKING FILE TODAY AND BECOME A DELEGATE BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE!
Info on how to become a delegate here :
http://www3.webng.com/ron...
Radio interview of some good points : Look for Monday KNARR March 17th : http://mp3.rprradio.com/1...
Dr. Steve Parent
- JSlayes, on 03/14/2008, -0/+2Look I don't see people at the Grassroots level supporting anyone but RonPaul. People can and do change there minds on a daily basis. Dr. Paul has not even gotten a fair shake they give all this free media attention to Clinton and Obama. You can think whatever youwant but remember this. If Clinton and Obama win or McCain wins it is the end of the United States and the begining of the North American Union. callme names whatever you want just remember what i sadi cause it will happen.
- jtmedia01, on 03/14/2008, -0/+2Sounds like the current system is a corrupt club that has run its scam long enough to monopolize it for only their self serving interests. Doesn't look like it will be easy for the common people to regain their government but i am excited that there are many out there who are determined to try. Never thought I would see the day when logical, truthful and freedom preserving platforms represented by true champions of the US constitution such as Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinnich would be locked out and treated as if they are out of touch with reality by what seems to be a mob mentality of those who run the Republican and Democrat parties. Why is it a requirement of our candidates to be in skull & Bones, and CFR ? Who is running this government anyway? The people or some organized crime group? Why is there no accountability? Why do the "speeches" or the party ever reflect the desires of the people once they are given office? Our government is out of control and they have shut the doors to those who wish to restore order, integrity, and the constitution!!! Become a Ron Paul delegate and participate in order to reopen the doors to the current closed party systems --- seems to be a reasonable approach to an election process taken hostage through corrupt, illegal and unfair practice.
- jtmedia01, on 03/14/2008, -0/+1I call you a crazy freedom loving patriot and logical human being who loves his constitution and country! Cheers!
- icodetoad, on 03/14/2008, -0/+1IMPORTANT to vote for Ron Paul: McCain, who has a long history of melanomas, is stalling the release of his medical records, despite immediately releasing them in previous campaigns, and won't say why the delay. All he has to do is say the word to release them, less time than fielding questions, and he's casting doubt harmful to his campaign. We need more delegates for RP in case McCain drops out and one of the other open-borders' candidates drops back in in order to block Ron Paul from a win.
- FreedomThread, on 03/26/2008, -0/+1me too and JSlayes IS right!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6sImL18c5k - thomaso, on 03/21/2008, -0/+1I second the comment
- inactive, on 03/12/2008, -8/+4That is if "just 10%" could get elected delegates. They won't.
I alos LOVE how you are planning on shutting out everyone by booking all the hotels in the area. PROVES that you are simple minded children. The major hotels near the convention center have been booked FOR MONTHS already. The only ones being shut out are you.
Simple math...John MCain has clsoe to 1000 delegates that MUST vote for him. By the end of the primaries, that will be well over he majority needed. He will also have 500 or so pledged ones. You are NOT going to get that many people who are going to go against the will of the people. And if you did, Ron Paul's career would be OVER. People don't take too kindly to a guy who runs on the platform of restopring democracy and then subverts it. That s why Ron Paul does NOT approve of this. Ask him. He knows it would destroy him politically. - inactive, on 03/12/2008, -10/+3This is the most irrational and idiotic thing I've ever seen posted to Digg. Buried.
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