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- OPR8R, on 11/12/2009, -21/+101Not that I agree that the Obama administration is trying to drive the country towards Socialism, but it's interesting the see people's feelings towards it. People act like it's concocted by the devil himself, but all it wants to do is help those it sees are less able to help themselves. Why is that such a horrible thing?
- eliot2000, on 11/13/2009, -23/+80Damn. You caught us.
I suppose it's time to come clean. We've kept it up for long enough. We liberals have decided to turn America Socialist. And we would have gotten away with it if it weren't for you durn kids and your teabagging.
It was a two part operation. the first step was to change the definition of "socialism". You see, to turn America into a socialist country under the traditional definition would be almost impossible. The government would have to take possession of the means of industrial production, for one. Think about that for a moment: how can our government take control of the means of production, when the means of production happen to be located in china and Mexico? Socialism also means that everyone gets an equal cut, and with the American constitution being the way it is about property rights, that would be almost impossible without completely disregarding the constitution and our entire system of government altogether. Because it was so hard, we decided to bring our evil, nefarious goal closer and more easily attainable.
Here's BIG SECRET number one: we've moved "socialism" to a place that falls to the left of exactly where we are now. It's lots easier to make America a socialist hell on earth now. Think about it: with his desire for universal health insurance and customer protections, venerable Nixon was more than liberal enough to qualify as a socialist under our current definitions. Under this new definition, if Obama turns off a light after leaving the room- which conserves electricity and is therefore liberal, he has become a socialist dictator. SUCK IT "real" Americans!!! (twirling moustache)
BIG SECRET number 2 is even worse. You'll never see it coming. You know how we're going to take over health care, take away your doctor, and make you wait 6 months for a check-up? We're not actually going to do anything like that. That's a diversion. While you guys are panicking about how the health care bill does not specifically prevent IRS black ops agents from deploying sniper teams to take out schoolchildren before they can get check ups, we're doing something secret- making it so insurance agencies have to drop rates, making it harder for them to behave unethically, and making health plans that are cheap enough for anyone to have insurance if they want it, public or private.
Think about it, you're at work a few years from now, and HR is talking about your plan options, there's the private plan, which has good coverage for 120 a paycheck, or the public one that also has good coverage for 110. You might be tempted to choose the $110 option, and BANG- you're a socialist too. Just like us. You might want to get gay married.
And if you choose the $120 option, BANG, you're still a socialist, because you're paying a lower rate because the private company had to lower their rate to compete.
You might choose neither, and do the true capitalist thing, and pay retail, but if you do we'll just get you with medicare when you retire. BANG! hahaha!
And you were worried about Obama-concentration camps for white Christians.
Suckers. - ThsGuyRightHere, on 11/12/2009, -19/+74Okay look. Any change from the status quo is by definition a step towards something-ism. Health care reform is a step towards socialism. Relaxing gun control laws is a step towards anarchy. Passing pretty much any punitive law is a step towards fascism. Get over it.
- lennynumberone, on 11/12/2009, -43/+90Texas, the state most would rather drive around than through.
- HenryKillinger, on 11/13/2009, -9/+50Yeah, man, ***** paying taxes to support other human beings. I don't involuntarily pay to support the police and fire departments just so they can stop murders and fires in -other- peoples' homes. Lazy ***** should deal with their own problems.
/s - rizzo2008, on 11/12/2009, -4/+42I dunno I always thought having 80 mph limits on the interstate in Texas was kinda cool and it gets me places faster.
- OPR8R, on 11/12/2009, -17/+53You see, that's the big difference. Liberals see money as an obstacle to achieving human needs (safety, shelter, health) and happiness. Conservatives see money as the end goal and our culture reflects that. You see your attitude as being correct, but others around the world and in the US see it as selfish, greedy, and shortsighted. I mean really, what does it matter if you die with a billion dollars? To me it makes more sense to work for something long lasting and sustainable. "I worked to rid my country of poverty" vs. "I worked for a new big screen TV and bragging rights".
- JoeF8577, on 11/12/2009, -18/+53FEAR
- eliot2000, on 11/13/2009, -5/+37ps:
That birth certificate really is fake, it's an Arby's menu, if you look closely. Joe Biden is really William Ayers in a rubber mask. The real Joe Biden was swallowed whole by Ann Coulter during her yearly feeding ritual several years ago. - thoarod, on 11/12/2009, -24/+52So, does anyone want to tell me why the Republican Texas legislators who all voted against the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 (i.e. the stimulus bill) now want $3 billion of it for NASA jobs?
*Text of the letter sent to the President is below. Current co-signers include: Sens. Cornyn and Hutchison, and (26) Reps. Barton, Brady, Burgess, Carter, Conaway, Culberson, Edwards, Gohmert, Gonzalez, Granger, Al Green, Gene Green, Hall, Hinojosa, Jackson Lee, Eddie Bernice Johnson, Sam Johnson, Marchant, McCaul, Nuegebauer, Olson, Paul, Poe, Sessions, Smith, Thornberry.
October 5, 2009
The Honorable Barack Obama
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20500
Dear Mr. President,
We write to you regarding the summary report recently issued by your Administration’s U.S. Review of U.S. Human Space Flight Plans Committee. As you know, that Committee’s goal was to evaluate all available options to support a vigorous path of human space exploration, returning to the Moon, and eventually going on to Mars. These are national goals that the Congress has supported in NASA authorization legislation passed overwhelmingly in both 2005 and 2008.
The Committee found that the U.S. human spaceflight program, as currently configured and budgeted, cannot meet the goals of supporting meaningful human exploration beyond low-earth orbit and that additional funding is necessary for NASA to conduct a viable exploration program. Specifically, the Committee found that it is possible for NASA to carry out a feasible exploration program only if its budget is increased, at the minimum, by $3 billion annually above the Fiscal Year (FY) 2010 budget request. Boldness does not come cheaply, and in a venture that is inherently risky, we have an obligation to provide the adequate resources to make these worthy goals safe, attainable, and sustainable over time.
As you know, a robust space program that enables us to explore new frontiers is critical to maintain both America's proud tradition of exploration and its leadership in space. Equally important, in these times of economic uncertainty, human space flight can, as history has proven, spur the development of technologies that enhance our national and economic security, maintain our global competitiveness, and inspire generations of students to enter the fields of science, technology, engineering and mathematics, where we are today being challenged--and in some cases out-paced--by other nations.
America is still the global leader in aerospace, but a lack of funding and commitment to human space flight would deal a critical blow to that industry that could set its progress back by decades and would cost thousands of jobs, not just in Texas, but across the country. Your leadership in identifying a strong path forward in human space flight, based on the findings and options presented by the Review Committee, will help guarantee NASA has the adequate support and resources to maintain American leadership in human space exploration.
We agree with the Committee’s statement that such an exploration program will be a source of pride for the nation, and we believe that it will continue to be for Texas as well. Regardless of the specific details of the plan for implementing a vigorous and effective exploration program, the Review Committee has made it clear that additional funds are essential, and that time is of the essence in moving forward with whatever program on which you and Congress can reach consensus. As you know, the Committee's report comes very late in the budgetary process for FY 2010. Any path forward will require additional funding not currently within the allocation of NASA's appropriations committees.
Therefore, to ensure the U.S. maintains its leadership in human space exploration, we respectfully ask that you include in your promised amended budget request for NASA's Exploration Systems a request to Congress to reallocate the necessary funds for NASA from the funds that we anticipate will remain available from the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 (ARRA). As of last month, less than 15 percent of ARRA funds had been expended.
Since the stated purpose of the stimulus package was to secure good jobs and stabilize our economy, there is no better investment that could be made than the addition of up to $3 billion to NASA in FY2010, and the projection of at least that level of increase, as recommended by your Committee, at a 2.4% rate of inflation in the out-year projections included in the initial FY2010 Request. The NASA civil servant and contractor workforce is comprised of highly skilled and dedicated individuals performing the kinds of work and developing the industrial base that we as a nation must have in today's global competitive economic environment.
Thank you for your attention on this matter. - kward711, on 11/13/2009, -6/+30"Name ONE "centrist" position Obama holds"
Afghanistan - Massawyrm, on 11/13/2009, -1/+25Rick Perry won our state election with 36% of a 5-way split. Most of us think he's a total knob and can't wait for him to get his ass kicked next year.
- novenator, on 11/13/2009, -8/+31That's funny, wasn't Gov. Perry booed at a Tea Party event not too long ago? Yes he was: http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/06/cornyn-called- ...
- kward711, on 11/13/2009, -5/+28to add to that, same-sex marriage.
- TotalHalibut, on 11/13/2009, -6/+29No he isn't and it's safe to say you don't even know what socialism is.
- tezla, on 11/13/2009, -0/+22driving in the us must suck when 80 mph is considered fast
- detcade, on 11/12/2009, -7/+28Your comment is a step towards baby-killing-ism
- elliotys, on 11/12/2009, -25/+45The funny thing is actually how centrist Obama is. If they think he is liberal, they should come to my house. I would scare the ***** out of them with my over-enlarged bleeding heart.
- SpeedSteamBoat, on 11/13/2009, -4/+22Marijuana.
- drmangrum, on 11/12/2009, -16/+34Willing to bed you've never even been to Texas. It's not a bad place. Low taxes, good jobs, decent weather, super cheap cost-of-living, tons of good colleges.
- novenator, on 11/13/2009, -8/+25Some people would yell, "YOU SHOULD HAVE LEARNED HOW TO SWIM BEFORE YOU GOT IN THE WATER!! to a drowning man, I see from some comments in here.
- detcade, on 11/12/2009, -3/+20...mongering
- BasalCellBossk, on 11/13/2009, -10/+26Anybody who is screaming 'socialism!' over Obama immediately outs themselves as either stupid, or mentally ill.
- BasalCellBossk, on 11/13/2009, -8/+24If you want to live in the most advanced civilization, you have to put something back into it.
It's not these imaginary spongers that are parasites on the system, it's you retards who want to hoard your money and give nothing away. You do nothing for your society. Nothing. - 1234brandon, on 11/13/2009, -0/+15"driving in the us must suck when 80 mph is considered fast"
Yep, it does. It's 55 where I live. - SpeedSteamBoat, on 11/13/2009, -3/+18"What is your issue?"
Hypocrisy is the issue.
If they think government spending is so out of control (basically their entire argument against Health Care reform), they need to stop "wasting" it themselves.
Of course, the reality is that it's only "waste" when someone else does it. If it's THEIR bridge to nowhere then it's "helping their constituents" and "just doing their job."
Hypocrites. - kublerross, on 11/13/2009, -7/+22What a ridiculous statement
If 'poverty is a billion dollar business' at least it benefits many. corporate rape of us all is a multi-trillion dollar business that benefits a select few. Why so many in this country are so passionate about defending the rights of their masters is beyond me. - wafla, on 11/13/2009, -1/+15@eliot2000 wins Digg?
- novenator, on 11/13/2009, -4/+18Gotta digg u up for that. I love to drive fast and can't stand ridiculously low speed limits.
- 5thdigg, on 11/13/2009, -0/+13I've lived there.
It's the people. - wafla, on 11/13/2009, -3/+17He's not even trying to do healthcare reform. He's doing health insurance reform. He's not even close to liberal there, since the "reforms" are leaving the insurance companies in existence.
- IHaveIssues, on 11/13/2009, -8/+22But the people ....
- Atario, on 11/13/2009, -15/+28***** Rick Perry.
- SpeedSteamBoat, on 11/13/2009, -9/+22@mejf2loy: The Soviet Union was never socialist. It was only totalitarian. The same goes for basically all "communism" states. They were/are all dictatorships with a control economy. Nothing communal about it.
- novenator, on 11/13/2009, -11/+23There is plenty of free market capitalism for you in Somalia. Look how good that is turning out!
- magamiako, on 11/13/2009, -0/+12Just wanted to say: Awesome! But why did you have to give away all of our secrets!?
- noahgelman, on 11/13/2009, -18/+30What's wrong with Socialism?
- wafla, on 11/13/2009, -1/+12Leave while you still can, Skywise!
- mollydog12, on 11/12/2009, -15/+26don't know anybody who doesn't want to help the less fortunate. everyone i know pays their shirt in taxes and contributes privately to charities as well.
the resistance comes from knowing how many people take a cut out of the money before it reaches anyone in need. poverty is a billion dollar business. by the time the government, the "non profits", and all the others have fed at the trough there is damn little left for the people who need it. that's the problem. - zacharytelschow, on 11/13/2009, -15/+26Can you please tell me when we had capitalism? I'd love to know.
1. Government regulates free market.
2. Politicians claim failure of free market.
3. Politicians seize more power for themselves.
4. PROFIT! - novenator, on 11/13/2009, -9/+19It is the red-scare term of modern day America. The conservatives here are trying to say that Europe is a wasteland because of their socialist policies, and they have scared so many people into believing it, that it has become a bad word suddenly.
- eliot2000, on 11/13/2009, -0/+10Totally! We'll be wearing tall fur hats soon! they'll be mandatory, and you'll have to apply for them at ACORN offices. I heard selling medicare at cost, despite selling it at cost, would cost the taxpayers $62 Octillion dollars!
I like that one, but you touched on my favorite: we evil liberals are going to throw you in jail for not signing up for health insurance. Sure, you're talking about the same law that allows you to be thrown in jail for not mowing your lawn, getting a fine, and then refusing to pay that fine for decades, but it's theoretically possible.
We're going to smash all the baby Jesus statues used for nativity scenes also. Check the law, it says nothing about preventing the government from doing that. Additionally: nothing in the law says a chimpanzee can't join the basketball team! - OPR8R, on 11/12/2009, -15/+25People's aversion to socialism comes from the perception of waste created by social programs? I reject that notion. By that rationale, the free market system should be viewed as the worst set of ideals every put forth by man.
IMO, people's aversion to socialism comes from propaganda of the 50's, 60's, and 70's, used to fight the spread of communism, thusly advocating capitalism and the free market system. And it's gotten to the point, that over time, anything that isn't raw, unfettered capitalism is just un-American. - Elranzer, on 11/13/2009, -4/+14Gov Perry is a few sandwiches short of a picnic.
- lennynumberone, on 11/12/2009, -19/+27I've been there, and I have friends who have moved there, so I base my opinion on more than superficial prejudices.
- brainflakes, on 11/13/2009, -12/+20Y'know, you could move America a long way "towards socialism" and it'd still be more right wing than a lot of European countries. It's all relative.
- govtdoesnotwork, on 11/13/2009, -2/+10Sadly, under Michael Moore's & the MSM's brand of NewSpeak, the answer is a blinkered, biased "yes."
- Landthatilove, on 11/13/2009, -0/+8There are roughly 300 million American citizens. If the government gave every man, woman, and child 2 million dollars each, poverty would end and it would cost a lot less than the government is spending to "end poverty". Anyone that believes the crap that the government does is about "helping" anyone other than the politicians in our governments quest for power, is not just a fool. They're a damned fool.
- xOrion73x, on 11/13/2009, -2/+9"because he has every right to do it with HIS own money, but not with MINE ?"
Are you a citizen of the United States? Are you too greedy to understand that the PRIVILEGE of living here is NOT FREE? Your taxes are Not your money.. your taxes are your obligation to help out with society. If you don't like it, you have two choices.. GTFO, or go jobless and learn what the rest of us who give a ***** about other people are trying to help.
How much of MY money did the Bush Dynasty spend tooling around in the desert?
I would rather MY money go towards helping our infrastructure and towards helping our own citizens have better lives, Not half-assed cooked up wars to further financial gain of the super wealthy. - wafla, on 11/13/2009, -2/+9We should be so lucky.
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