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- sarixe, on 04/28/2008, -6/+37what happens when you trust a facet of the government to investigate the president? THIS!
- moxley, on 04/28/2008, -1/+19You know, this current situation reminds me of France in the late 1700s, except it is much worse here and now.
Remember how they resolved that? Cause I think it's fitting.
The entire ruling class....slice. - TheThirdLevel, on 04/28/2008, -3/+21Would we let Al-Qaeda investigate itself over things like this? Of course not.
So why does our government do it? - sentime, on 04/28/2008, -1/+18This is horrible, news organizations might lose their Pentagon sources and will no longer be able to push ***** propaganda. omg oh noez :D
- Stormwern, on 04/28/2008, -1/+17How surprising, let's hope the next president has the guts to go after this and everything else covered up by the administration.
- inactive, on 04/28/2008, -2/+15You FAIL to see any ethical breach? You have got to be kidding. These are clear and definite shills. They were ordered to deliver White House talking points. Many had military-industrial ties and so benefit from continued war efforts.
You are downplaying the White House's obvious attempt here to fraudulently make its failing war effort look better. You are quite yourself a rightwing disinformation shill trying for damage control. - wafla, on 04/28/2008, -1/+13Didja have a chance to read the article? Article = good news. Title of this Digg = wtf!?
- dogshaft, on 04/28/2008, -0/+12Pentagon Suddenly Suspends Bush War Propaganda
There, fixed it for you. - macinit1138, on 04/28/2008, -0/+11Changing the terminology of fascism is becoming a big hit with this administration.
I guess that's why re-education centers are used in later stages of dictatorships, to keep up with flood of new terminology that was introduced earlier. - davidlow, on 04/28/2008, -0/+8It's not just the propaganda tactics, either.
- jessehadden, on 04/28/2008, -0/+7I remember when comparing things to the Nazis was the de facto end of the discussion, for on-line forums. That was before the Bush administration.
- lickmyback, on 04/28/2008, -2/+9No surprises here. Most American news media are doped in a similar fashion, it's like political product placement.
- dggeek, on 04/28/2008, -1/+8The problem is that they were presented as independent analysts, when they were handed their talking points by the administration. It is propaganda.
- lnf69, on 04/28/2008, -4/+10Funny how you actually got voted down for clarifying what most of the other commenters seemed to have missed. It's like "No, I don't want to know the truth, I just want to stick to my ideas."
- neozeed, on 04/28/2008, -0/+6What? Does that mean the rest of the 'infowarriors' won't be here to bury everything as they have to allow the citizens to have free and open communications?
Here is a hope that one day (like uh today) we can kick the NSA the ***** out of America, and that the 4th ammendment can once more again be enacted.
It's too bad we'll never have any freedoms again. the Terrorists (CIA/NSA) have still won, despite a temporary DoD setback.... And don't think for a moment the DoD will stop with its illegal activities. - mrcoderga, on 04/28/2008, -0/+5That's like asking the next dog to give up his bone. Good luck with that.
- geddon, on 04/28/2008, -0/+5Let's not forget about military expansion and racial intolerance!
- BlacklabelSAR, on 04/28/2008, -0/+4Brought to you by the Ministry of Disinformation.
- kakwakas, on 04/28/2008, -3/+7RTFA
- ctrlfreak13, on 04/28/2008, -6/+10Buried as inaccurate, the title is entirely and completely misleading, the article deals with the Pentagon ending briefings for ex-military officers who often appear as military analysts. Though it is about how the Pentagon fed manipulated information to these people in order to shape the media. It, however, is not about suspending some sort of investigation and I find it depressing that so many people commented without actually reading the article, or looking at the REAL title of the source article.
- cdigioia, on 04/28/2008, -3/+7Buried. The title is not just misleading, it's completly fictional. The investigation hasn't been suspended, the war propaganda has been suspended.
- dggeek, on 04/28/2008, -1/+5By the media. Don't get me wrong, I'm not going to argue that this was illegal. But it's definitely unethical propagandist technique by the government and (if they knew) the media. Whether or not you think this was illegal, I think most of us can agree that it was deceptive and continues a detrimental trend of this administration to hide, twist, and falsify information important to its citizens.
- jaxcs, on 04/28/2008, -3/+7you don't like the democratic agenda, that's fine. Not everything there is fully formed. But for someone to say that they like propaganda, that is just stupid. What you are really saying is that you can't be bothered to hear anything that has even a chance of changing your mind. You like your ignorance served straight up!
- inactive, on 04/28/2008, -0/+4They need to start naming names! By the time this all comes out those people will be unmemorable and long gone and the next admin will have their own new batch of dis info messengers.
- inactive, on 04/28/2008, -1/+4Remember those old seatbelt ads with the tagline "you can learn alot from a dummy"? I think this administration interpreted them as "you can learn alot from the Nazis", specifically when it comes to propaganda.
- Stormwern, on 04/28/2008, -1/+4That's an interesting parallel actually, the internet would be the new printing press.
- BohicaTwentyTwo, on 04/28/2008, -3/+6Its a shame that the Pentagon needed to hold briefings to counter the horrifically biased fourth estate in the first place.
- mrcoderga, on 04/28/2008, -0/+3
I heard that all the municipal, state, and federal jurisdictions within the United States are due to be updated soon such that all civilians outside of government will be responsible for policing themselves in good faith, joining the progressive path of justice blazed by leading self-policing American organizations increasingly prevalent throughout US government, corporations, and military.
Ahaha just kidding.
The hypocrisy and disjustice of "self-policing" policies among the specially privileged continues unabated in the United States.
But are you enabling their behavior?
Do you really like to be abused, like a wife who gets beat by her husband?
Like the beaten wife, do you tell everyone it's all OK, and that you love the one who beats you?
I'm just asking.... - Tenlow, on 04/28/2008, -1/+4I dugg it even after figuring out that the title was wrong, just because it's all valid info... minus the title.
- fluxion, on 04/29/2008, -0/+3" On Sunday, The New York Times reported that since 2002 the Pentagon has cultivated several dozen military analysts in a campaign to generate favorable coverage of the administration’s wartime performance. The retired officers have made tens of thousands of appearances for television and radio networks, holding forth on Iraq, Afghanistan, detainee issues and terrorism in general.
Records and interviews show that the Bush administration worked to transform the analysts into an instrument intended to shape coverage from inside the major networks."
it is explicitly illegal for the government to propagandize american citizens.
but democrats seem to care about this violation of the law, so automatically this whole investigation becomes some giant liberal conspiracy designed to waste your tax dollars. attack the messenger. america at it's finest. - jab9990, on 04/28/2008, -0/+3Committing the crime is easy, getting away with it is the hard part. Having been raised in a completely sheltered and corrupt environment, Bush is the kind of person who thinks he's smart enough to commit any crime imaginable and get away with it. This fundamental ignorance is what makes a criminal go out and take risks that normal people would recognize as idiotic. Now we're seeing the aftermath, his many crimes are becoming public knowledge, and he and his allies are scrambling wildly to avoid being held accountable. This is the most dangerous time for America, because the absolute worst crimes are always committed trying to cover up some other crime.
- Pherdnut, on 04/28/2008, -0/+2Write the Reps involved and thank them for this. Remember Dodd's stand against the Telecom immunity in December? It makes a difference.
- MrSlumberjack, on 04/28/2008, -0/+2Yea.. this probably would have hit the top 10 if the title was accurate. This is some ***** up *****.
- Daedalus81, on 04/28/2008, -1/+3Disclosure.
- secrity, on 04/28/2008, -0/+2Bush doesn't care, he has been able to make himself invincible.
- inactive, on 04/28/2008, -0/+2haha RP would, but as for the current leftovers running for prez... I highly doubt it. mrcoderga put it best.
- secrity, on 04/28/2008, -0/+2Mil spec ASTROTURF!
- lolinyerface, on 04/28/2008, -3/+5=D
- inactive, on 04/28/2008, -9/+11Americans are so stupid. I'll let you figure out why.
- mrcoderga, on 04/28/2008, -0/+1I KNOW NOTHING! --- Sgt Shulz of Hogan's Heroes TV show. Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil. --- Someone else
- londubh, on 04/28/2008, -1/+2The title is misleading. The real title of the article is: Pentagon Suspends Briefings for Analysts
- desertDenizen, on 04/28/2008, -3/+4Buried for botching the title. (Looks like an honest mistake, maybe missing the word "pending" or some such.) Important article though; perhaps another version of it will rise to the top.
- mrcoderga, on 04/28/2008, -0/+1Actually, seems like both what you say, and what the article title says, are imminent. But your catch was a good one.
- marcomc2, on 04/29/2008, -0/+1The media knows. The government knows. Everybody knows. The media is controlled. The votes are fraudulent. Everything is clear, except to a couple of million retarded Americans in *****. We need a strong voice. We need Hunter Stockton Thompson to be alive and young. Everything is pretty much doomed in my mind. Who knows, maybe I'm wrong. I certainly hope so. But there's little hope so far.
- songfire, on 04/28/2008, -1/+2BTW, did you read the original article that this one refers to? Some of the "analysts" themselves have come out and said that they regret taking a part in this. Many knew that they were deceiving the public, and they knew that that was the purpose of their briefings. The media is culpable too, but to say that the administration is clear of any ethics violations is just wrong.
Even if all of the analysts did agree with the administration's point of view, why would you want your government to be so monolithic? I want a government that has some balance in its views, to understand things from multiple viewpoints. Dissent can be a form of problem solving, and it is a form the adminstration rarely uses. - jessehadden, on 04/28/2008, -1/+2Problem is, the ruling class now has access to weapons, money, and raw power that the French aristocracy would have never been able to have dreamed of. A modern "revolution" in the United States would be more accurately described as a population reduction.
- kemp34, on 04/29/2008, -0/+1"Bush has been a really great president. Reminds me of myself." - LBJ
- Charlotte_Web, on 04/28/2008, -1/+2...except that most diggers seem to be commenting based on the title alone.
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