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- dBass, on 04/15/2008, -3/+56Talk about a "Judas"! What party is she in again?
- jbdobd, on 04/15/2008, -5/+57Silly Hillary to bring that up in front of a group of people who are so clearly an example of the most elite in America - Steelworkers.
- FINITEONE11, on 04/15/2008, -15/+61Hillary Clinton? more like Bitchy McBitcherson.
- DumbKid, on 04/15/2008, -5/+42Bitch, please
- colincornaby, on 04/15/2008, -7/+37Everytime I see her say something like this, I have to pause, and remind myself that she'd still be better than McCain if she ends up beating Obama.
It's getting harder to feel okay about that though. - callinthelaw69, on 04/15/2008, -4/+34"The Clinton campaign later said the disgruntled reaction to her remarks came from Obama supporters in attendance."
Uh huh. And the sky is green and water is yellow and grass is red. - mrshickadance9, on 04/15/2008, -5/+34I hope she cries again when she loses to Obama. It's hilarious watching her cry.
- MotherGinSling, on 04/15/2008, -10/+39Hillary must be a self-hating masochist to keep hammering away on this.
- FINITEONE11, on 04/15/2008, -2/+30EASY THERE SOCCER MOM
- uptown, on 04/15/2008, -3/+30Notice that she pauses. She does this because she's trying to decide whether to continue her line of discussion due to the audience rumbling. It's not rubling of support .... it's distaste for what she's talking about. And it's probably people that realize she's exploiting the situation for personal gain rather than telling voters how she's going to help them survive the current recession.
- lundeja, on 04/15/2008, -3/+27The audience doesn't have a mic on them.
- PhilLesh69, on 04/15/2008, -1/+22I hope that was sarcasm.
The US sold out on the steelworkers in the 80's. She took part in it, as part of her "35 years of experience" - PhilLesh69, on 04/15/2008, -0/+19You do know that this has been analyzed up and down, inside and out, and all around. If McCain faces Hillary in the general election, most of the moderates and undecideds, and many democrats will vote for McCain. If McCain faces Obama in the general election, it is a close match, and even possible for Obama to win.
It is also just common logic. Hillary is a polarizing candidate. The people that support her will support her blindly, and the people who absolutely despise her will oppose her blindly. Moderates and independents also have a bad taste for Hillary.
McCain's campaign, and even McCain himself has said many times, even in the past few days, that they would much rather go up against Hillary because they understand this dynamic. - Fordi, on 04/15/2008, -1/+20Turn up your volume. Most people are booing and saying 'No!'
- aboyd, on 04/15/2008, -12/+27I'm voting for Obama, so I want to be clear that I'm not normally a Hillary supporter. Having said that, what are you guys hearing that I'm missing? There was some low mumbling at the beginning when she was welcomed, and then similar mumbling when she made her comment about Obama. Both "mumblings" sounded like very tame expressions, and I could not judge if they were positive or negative.
It seems good to say that Hillary sucks for making a mountain out of a molehill, and I'm glad the story gained no traction. But this seems like we're really reaching for it, guys. A few people go, "meh," and we decide that she was soundly booed? I don't get it. - rebotfc, on 04/15/2008, -0/+14Listen to it with decent headphones , the crowd are clearly saying 'No'.
- PhilLesh69, on 04/15/2008, -2/+15Do you mean that the carefully screened audience, vetted and cleared before being offered an invitation, turned out to be Obama supporters?
I thought we all knew that after september 11th, 2001, no politician will ever speak in front of an audience that wasn't verifiably 100% behind them.
We all know that they even set up "free speech zones" a mile away from most venues, implying that everywhere else there is no free speech.
It isn't just Bush that does that. Both parties' national conventions used "free speech zones", both in Boston and in NYC in 2004. - tharju, on 04/15/2008, -3/+14she kept saying this fund raising event in "San Francisco". I see what u did there Hilary.
- PhilLesh69, on 04/15/2008, -1/+11Because it is funny how the media and Hilllary (and even McCain) are trying to turn this into an insult towards rural Americans, while in reality, the people it allegedly insults agree with what Obama said.
Northeast Elitists, you know the new york journalist, or the politician, or the bankers and brokers who own them, don't understand the rest of America. They would say things like "those gun nuts" or "the angry and irrational uneducated labor block" as an insult. So when someone says "The people who have lost their jobs, who are uncertain about the future are angry, bitter and cling to their guns and their religion" they cannot understand that this actually is something these people can identify with. They all love their guns when you get into western PA, moving west into the middle finger of west virginia (the part where Wheeling and Moundsville, Weirton, Triadelphia are) into Bridgeport OH, St Clairsville, and all the way across OH into Indiana.
At least, when I went to College in Wheeling at the end of the 80's, I met a lot of people that would stand up and cheer if Obama made that statement to them. They all owned guns. They all resented the fact that the only remaining "steel mill" was actually just a nail factory making nails on a basically robotic assembly line, employing a dozen people total, using japanese steel. I think if you asked them if they were "bitter" they would have said "***** yes, I'm bitter! Not only am I bitter, I am ***** pissed off to high hell!" - PhilLesh69, on 04/15/2008, -1/+10You know what? You actually can say that to someone going through hard times. They'll know that you have empathy for them
If you walked up to a homeless person and said "Damn, dude. It must suck to be homeless. Aren't you pissed off?" The guy would probably say "Don't you know it, man! This is *****! It is horrible!"
If you walked up to an unemployed steel worker and said "Doesn't it suck that all of the steel mill jobs are now in Japan and China? Aren't you bitter? Doesn't that piss you off?" the guy would most definitely say "Hell YES! This is unamerican greedy *****! You bet I'm bitter!!!"
It is elitist if you don't understand that the people supposedly being insulted are actually being insulted by the people calling an empathic candidate "an elitist" because that just shows that the people making that accusation are northeast elitists who have no clue about the plight of the average working class American. The people calling "elitist" to those remarks have only New York City and Washington DC as a reference point. I know how they think, I live outside DC, work downtown next to the white house, and travel to NYC regularly. But I've grown up all over the country, including in Harrisburg PA, and went to college in Wheeling WV, and have never gotten absorbed in the egocentric delusion of living in a world where every option is at your fingertips. I know that's how it is here, but I still recognize that it isn't that way when you get over 120 miles outside of one of the 11 major metropolitan areas in this country. People who live inside those rings live in the first world. Move outside, and much of the country looks like a 3rd world country. People living in schoolbuses with wood burning stoves, people living in trailers on the side of a cliff alongside a highway. You name it, anything goes.
But it is very modern and every convenience known to man is at your fingertips when you go to DC or NYC. So the others are just backwater fools, and Obama insults them by saying they are bitter. Or at least, the other two elitist candidates think that way. - BrendanSheehan, on 04/15/2008, -1/+10The Clinton Party - will at all costs, and if you can't win destroy your opponent.
- lickmylovepump, on 04/15/2008, -3/+12EASY THERE CRABBY McCRABBYSON.
bitch. - incredibilistic, on 04/15/2008, -1/+10This is getting old. Get beyond this crap for God's sake!!! If we're going to talk about how out of touch Obama and keep this in the news then we need to keep replaying the tape of Hillary getting off the plane in Bosnia and then post all three times she "misspoke" about he trip there.
- orangedude, on 04/15/2008, -1/+9Whoa there, why so bitter?
- SwedishNinja, on 04/15/2008, -0/+8LEAVE OBAMA ALONE!!!
- vocalyouth, on 04/15/2008, -2/+8He was just being honest about western pa. I've lived here my entire life and he didn't lie or exaggerate one bit. I don't even see anyone up in arms about this locally. Heaven forbid a politician say something true about people from an area. The people who are "outraged" have never been to western pa. Take a look around the dead steel mills and vacant houses all over places like johnstown and talk to the locals and you will see exactly what he was talking about. It's a depressed / depressing place. Obama's honesty on it made me like him a lot more.
- theaceoffire, on 04/15/2008, -0/+6My favorite line: "The Clinton campaign later said the disgruntled reaction to her remarks came from Obama supporters in attendance."
^_^ Must have a decent number of em. - Goobernatorial, on 04/15/2008, -0/+6I didn't know Hillary had a digg account.
- zephyear, on 04/15/2008, -1/+6durrhurrdurr, blind paultard speak
obama and clinton are similar yes, but you can't compare either to mccain
and don't give me your "durrhurr WAR WITH IRAN PAKISTAN" ***** speak
obama is left of center, clinton is center, and mccain is top right, and based on his republican pandering recently, far right soon - yournightmare, on 04/15/2008, -2/+7He didn't criticize them for their religious views. In fact, he didn't criticize them at all.
- hierophantus, on 04/15/2008, -0/+5Comedy gold.
- somespecial, on 04/15/2008, -1/+6Pittsburgh is not a small town.
- jinchoung, on 04/15/2008, -1/+6yep, listen to the audio and then look at her faltering reaction. it probably sounds loud and clear for her but the recording is only getting her. it's the "howard dean effect"... spin jockeys should get a mixing board... maybe a laugh track.
- BN2L, on 04/15/2008, -0/+5First off I like Obama but to be fair to Hillary it wasn't the crowd jeering it was maybe one or two people.
- SwedishNinja, on 04/15/2008, -0/+5Oh yeah, well you're a homosexual communist nazi queer!
See, I can use nonsensical ad hominems too! - orangedude, on 04/15/2008, -1/+6No, you're taking it the wrong way. He's saying A (people suffering hardship) --> B (increased tendency to cling to religion/guns/anti-immigrant). Not the reverse, that most religious people are bitter.
Also, you should realize why he made these statements when you read the whole context that the quote came from. He's saying that when people start caring about voting based on issues such as gay marriage and guns, they lose sight of one of the underlying problems in the community, which is the lost jobs and faltering economy. - quisph, on 04/15/2008, -1/+6His words imply no such thing. If some religious people INFERRED that, it's their mistake.
- inactive, on 04/15/2008, -0/+5The Odyssey gets only average mileage (17/25), despite the VCM.
- blake_mooney, on 04/15/2008, -0/+4HAHA, small town Americans don't cling to guns and religion...? That's a laugh!
- BrPyne, on 04/15/2008, -0/+4I don't know about you but the lady just pisses me off. If I want to hear Obama bashing I'll turn on Fox News, if I want to hear the people discussing the issue I'll read some digg comments. It just so happens Obama is the best candidate and everyone on digg knows this.
- mali1, on 04/15/2008, -0/+4You must be a Ron Paul supporter.
- RebeL5K, on 04/15/2008, -1/+5Clearly you haven't checked the polls recently, then. Hillary HAD a 26% lead, but due to a series of indiscretions like Bosnia, Tuzla, Penn, Columbia, etc. she is now just 4 percentage points ahead of Mr. Obama.
And the poll has a margin of error of 3%. - orangedude, on 04/15/2008, -0/+4Source?
- Fordi, on 04/15/2008, -1/+5sooooo.... pegged?
- rottencod, on 04/15/2008, -0/+4Yeah, isn't it annoying when millions of people who are normally apathetic about their political future start getting involved in the system and demanding a voice in our government? God, I hate that too. I wish people would just shut up and take what they have coming from whoever happens to be in whatever office is responsible for screwing them. At least Digg would be quiet. Maybe full of political prisoners fearful for their lives and afraid to speak their minds, but quiet.
- kreneskyp, on 04/15/2008, -0/+4i think they would be equally as bad. The only chance is if mccain really is just pandering to the republican base and returns to his pre-campaign days where he leaned to the left.
- ivansusanin, on 04/15/2008, -0/+4Gay Steel Mill: http://www.jibjab.com/view/162011
- innocentsinner, on 04/15/2008, -1/+4I understand what he was getting at. I'm just saying that the reactions are understandable.
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