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- inactive, on 11/21/2007, -14/+244Get our nose out of other country's business, save billions of dollars to be spent paying down our debt to China (who has us by the proverbial gonads) and get out troops home to protect our own borders instead of some country that we shouldn't have invaded in the first place... If you don't think those ideas are good ones, you're out of your mind and probably have a tough time reading this because I've used words with more than 3 letters...
- inactive, on 11/21/2007, -14/+159Ron Paul believes:
The war in Iraq was sold to us with false information. The area is more dangerous now than when we entered it. We destroyed a regime hated by our direct enemies, the jihadists, and created thousands of new recruits for them. This war has cost more than 3,000 American lives, thousands of seriously wounded, and hundreds of billions of dollars. We must have new leadership in the White House to ensure this never happens again.
Both Jefferson and Washington warned us about entangling ourselves in the affairs of other nations. Today, we have troops in 130 countries. We are spread so thin that we have too few troops defending America. And now, there are new calls for a draft of our young men and women.
We can continue to fund and fight no-win police actions around the globe, or we can refocus on securing America and bring the troops home. No war should ever be fought without a declaration of war voted upon by the Congress, as required by the Constitution.
Under no circumstances should the U.S. again go to war as the result of a resolution that comes from an unelected, foreign body, such as the United Nations.
Too often we give foreign aid and intervene on behalf of governments that are despised. Then, we become despised. Too often we have supported those who turn on us, like the Kosovars who aid Islamic terrorists, or the Afghan jihadists themselves, and their friend Osama bin Laden. We armed and trained them, and now we’re paying the price.
At the same time, we must not isolate ourselves. The generosity of the American people has been felt around the globe. Many have thanked God for it, in many languages. Let us have a strong America, conducting open trade, travel, communication, and diplomacy with other nations. - malakite33, on 11/21/2007, -11/+104I have to friends service in the Armed Forces currently, one in Iraq and one in Japan on a Navy ship. The one in Japan literally spends all day on a ship just changing the oil all day and lubing up pistons. They just sit there, in the harbor, looking at the Japanese base. Please, vote for Ron Paul and get my friends home and off these meaningless nation building missions that they don't agree with.
- Shigatsu, on 11/21/2007, -7/+83Doesn't have a shot? CNN think's he might now... they rank him 4th... still 4 too low for my taste but hey, your right, we can keep trying
- mghwom1, on 11/21/2007, -7/+83I can't imagine anyone other than Dr. Paul taking the role of president at this point. It just wouldn't be right.
- VIrus9, on 11/21/2007, -7/+61First, there's no such thing as "Ron Paul style isolationism". He's not an isolationist.
Isolationism is when a nation refuses to trade or have diplomatic relationships with other nations. Ron Paul is against this philosophy. Instead, he advocates that the United States does not interfere in the internal affairs of other nations.
Israel and Palestine need to work out their own solutions. It's none of America's business. - stealthc, on 11/21/2007, -2/+49To quote something I saw on the lewrockwell.com blog,
"Calling Ron Paul an isolationist would be like calling your best neighbor a 'hermit' because he doesn't do donuts in your lawn or throw bricks through your window." - scoobydoo84, on 11/21/2007, -11/+58 Ahhhhhhhhh, the sounds of an honest, intelligent, and competent politician opening his mouth!! So refreshing!!
It only took one Thomas Jefferson, and all we need is one Ron Paul!! Revolution is at hand!! - vawksel, on 11/21/2007, -5/+46My friends all said Ron didn't have a chance when talking about him six months ago, they are not saying that anymore... Not that they are saying he WILL win, but they stopped saying he doesn't have a chance.
- knomevol, on 11/21/2007, -3/+44My question is why view these laws that violate the Constitution as legitimate enough to have to "restore Constitutional liberties"?
If the United States Constitution is the supreme rule of law (which it is), then no new law undoes the law of the Constitution or the rights guaranteed by the Constitution.
In other words, don't say we are going to restore the Constitution. The Constitution does not need restoring because laws that violate the Constitution are null and void, period. - patriotwarrior, on 11/21/2007, -13/+47Why do Americans allow themselves to be cattle and cannon fodder for Israel?
- faxxy, on 11/21/2007, -1/+32This is about following the accepted procedure.
http://ronpaullibrary.org/document.php?id=976
Statement Regarding Impeachment of Vice President Cheney
Ron Paul Speech to Congress
November 6, 2007
Mr. Speaker, I rise, reluctantly, in favor of the motion to table House Resolution 799, Impeaching Richard B. Cheney, Vice President of the United States, of high crimes and misdemeanors, and in favor of referring that resolution to the House Judiciary Committee for full consideration. I voted to table this resolution not because I do not share the gentleman from Ohio's desire to hold those responsible for the Iraqi debacle accountable; but rather, because I strongly believe that we must follow established protocol in matters of such importance. During my entire time in Congress, I have been outspoken in my opposition to war with Iraq and Iran. I have warned my colleagues and the administration against marching toward war in numerous speeches over the years, and I have voted against every appropriation to continue the war on Iraq.
I have always been strongly in favor of vigorous congressional oversight of the executive branch, and I have lamented our abrogation of these Constitutional obligations in recent times. I do believe, however, that this legislation should proceed through the House of Representatives following regular order, which would require investigation and hearings in the House Judiciary Committee before the resolution proceeds to the floor for a vote. This time-tested manner of moving impeachment legislation may slow the process, but in the long run it preserves liberty by ensuring that the House thoroughly deliberates on such weighty matters. In past impeachments of high officials, including those of Presidents Nixon and Clinton, the legislation had always gone through the proper committee with full investigation and accompanying committee report.
I noted with some dismay that many of my colleagues who have long supported the war changed their vote to oppose tabling the motion for purely political reasons. That move was a disrespectful to the Constitutional function of this body and I could not support such actions with my vote.
I was pleased that the House did vote in favor of sending this legislation to the Judiciary Committee, which essentially directs the committee to examine the issue more closely than it has done to this point. - MrMan42, on 11/21/2007, -3/+34The only people with the power to end that conflict are Israel and Palestine. Don't hold your breath.
- BigManOnCampus, on 11/21/2007, -1/+32Agreed in principle, which is why I support people like Ron Paul. My ideal president would:
1) End all foreign aid/subsidies.
2) End borrowing, enforce balanced budgets except in cases where the U.S. is invaded.
3) Keep as much of the military research going as possible, but reduce foot-soldier numbers.
4) Build a fence on the borders that are not respected.
5) End all corporate welfare. - Corrosionx, on 11/21/2007, -4/+30"military industrial complex generates a large portion of our economic wealth."
No they don't they syphon it from the taxpayers to themselves. They are getting richer while the poor is getting poorer and the middle class is slipping into poor class more and more...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_broken ... - kpdude, on 11/21/2007, -3/+28I think that whatever Paul mentions is correct. If USA doesn't starts minding its own business, it would be in more economic burden from where it would be hard to get back on. Time to wake up else China is knocking on the door to be next superpower!!
- BEloftyIRONS, on 11/22/2007, -3/+28We still have troops in Germany. That war has been over for sixty years. My god our country has literately become that awkward guy who just doesn't get that the party is over.
- cv6nick, on 11/22/2007, -4/+29Ron Paul makes sense. Enough said.
- romistrub, on 11/21/2007, -8/+32I don't mean to be a ***** disturber, but here's my two cents (CAD):
Please take care of your own before you try and manipulate the world. I understand that you have business interests abroad that must be... "protected"... and I, for one, cannot stop you. But please, my respected brothers to the south, admit some introspection! Realize that all empires, divided and grasps extending, inevitably fall to enemies accumulated. Whichever comes first: a patriotic hunger for "expansion" (of democracy; of freedom; of ideologies) or a materialistic hunger for resources, one fuels the other. And while the added hunger of either expansion or consumption is fed by the other, the home, the mother that raised her ravenous children, cripples in starvation.
Please think about what you are doing, and good luck to all of you.
/Drama - Tenbatsu404, on 11/21/2007, -4/+27He will save well over a trillion dollars a year by reigning in our military from around the world while halting subsides to countries like Pakistan and Israel. This way we can continue to fund the welfare state at home and pay down the national debt. He also wants to restore the value of our money by supporting competing currencies and backing our dollar with gold, silver, and other precious commodities.
- dracostimpy, on 11/21/2007, -2/+24I think all any Ron Paul supporter expects of those who bash him is that they tell us their better solution, so we can weigh it against Ron Paul's position. If Herk and chico know for a fact that Ron Paul will destroy America, please explain why so we don't make an epic mistake and please tell us what we should be looking for in a candidate. Then, we can debate the points they make to determine if they're in fact right or if, as I suspect, they're just a couple of blowhards with no realistic solutions of their own.
You see, that's the fundamental difference between a Ron Paul fan bashing on Hillary or Rudy versus Herkimer bashing on Ron Paul; when we rip on Rudy, we explain why he's wrong and why Ron Paul is correct. When Herkimer bashes on Ron Paul, he asserts that RP is wrong without any factual support and without endorsing a separate position that he feels is better. In that respect, Herk and friends are making a deliberate effort to remain judgment proof, since taking a position would enable RP supporters to engage them in a debate that they'd surely lose. Thus, until the bury brigaders pick a candidate of their own or start endorsing positions, all they are is hatchet-men and should be regarded as such.
**ATTENTION BURY BRIGADE**: I double-dog DARE you to just once take a position on any of the major issues in the upcoming election and provide historical/factual evidence that supports your position over that of Ron Paul. Failure to do so only affirms my previous statement that you exist on digg solely to attack Ron Paul rather than to engage in meaningful debate that would help undecided diggers to make up their minds. Thus, ignoring my petition is a tacit admission that you are not truly concerned with adding to the political dialog and should thus be dismissed by diggers as political operatives rather than actual contributing members to the digg community. I await your reply, but I won't be holding my breath. - inactive, on 11/21/2007, -5/+27Its amazing how many people I talk to and read about online that say they are going to move if Ron Paul is not elected...That is catching on more and more. I was thinking about the UK or even New Zealand.
But seriously, the entire list of candidates besides Paul is a joke, They are carbon copies of each other and past presidential molds. They will continue America's imminent demise and lead us down a dark economic and war riddled future. Paul or bust, and that's no joke. - byrdgang, on 11/21/2007, -1/+22The point that you missed is that we are not only wasting money in places like Germany, Japan, and other places where we are not engaged in a war, we are also keep these service men and women in places were they are not being adequately utilized. Also, they are kept from their family members and friends so that they can work on a ship in Japan? How is that helping national security?
I guess that the days of the military being used for national security are gone. - OnGard4Liberty, on 11/21/2007, -1/+22"I am a friend of the Free State Project. Check it out...and if you like it, join and continue the effort!" -- Rep. Ron Paul
http://www.freestateproject.org/intro/ron_paul - krenzo, on 11/21/2007, -0/+20Sitting on a navy ship in Yokosuka harbor is not such a bad deal. You should be more worried about your friend in Iraq.
- DaveDepraved, on 11/21/2007, -2/+22the pentagon is a money pit, not a money generator.
- dracostimpy, on 11/21/2007, -1/+20Tell us how you'd run the country if you were President, Herk and chico. I'll consider you both qualified candidates since you are both highly-pedigreed anonymous comment trolls, so now I just beseech you to impart your great wisdom upon us all so that we might save our struggling nation. Please tell us HOW we can make America great once again?
- jeffiek, on 11/21/2007, -0/+19You know they're null and void. I know they're null and void. The man in blue with a gun DOESN'T know they're null and void.
- AsusMobo, on 11/21/2007, -1/+17So....its ok with you that every dollar you pay in taxes, just pays interest? Do you live your life like that? Damn I'd hate to see your credit card debt.
- LeeSoong, on 11/22/2007, -3/+19GO RON PAUL!
http://www.ronpaul2008.com/about - twilightsaturn, on 11/21/2007, -2/+18Geez...all I have to say is I hope he wins...Please save our country and vote for Ron Paul. Go and donate on his website too if you can. We really need to spread the word about him.
- spyd3rweb, on 11/21/2007, -3/+19You really need to get a hobby or something.
- kaelyiesta, on 11/21/2007, -7/+22You really think a man that wants to halt installation of military bases and occupations of foreign sovereign nations is an isolationist? Wow.
- sdigroup, on 11/22/2007, -1/+16Wake up America!! Its time to take our country back. Vote Vote!!
- PeppermintPig, on 11/21/2007, -2/+17Kerry brought nothing revolutionary to the table, and fairweather revolutionaries are a dime a dozen. That said, there's no reason to kick sand in peoples faces while they're motivated, nor would it be accurate to say Ron Paul is just another politician. Even though he can capitalize on his position in the running by speaking out radically, that's not to say that he would be any less forthright if he were a 'top tier' (whatever that's worth) candidate.
- Drahkar, on 11/21/2007, -3/+18I don't see where you get the idea that the Military Complex generates money. It takes Federal money and puts it into the pocket of a few private groups. But that's not generating anything. That's just shifting public funds into private pockets. Any Military action is a Expense, not an Income.
- dracostimpy, on 11/21/2007, -1/+16Please explain how the gold standard would bankrupt the country overnight, citing specific examples of countries throughout history who have been bankrupted by the gold standard compared to all the fiat currencies throughout history that didn't fail.
Also, please explain how the trillion we've spent in Iraq is better spent there than, say, on developing our OWN massive energy source in the Colorado/Wyoming oil shale and/or ANWAR, or better yet by just building a solar farm the size of Delaware in the middle of Nevada somewhere that would provide enough clean power for the whole country? I'm of the opinion that a trillion bucks would have gone a LONG way to establishing energy independence instead of propping up our dependence on foreign oil and reiterating our commitment to future massive military spending to protect that dependency. China and Russia can duke it out over Iran's oil then, since we won't need any of it.
As for the CIA, I don't think Ron Paul wants to get rid of it so much as make it accountable for the actions it undertakes, since it is a government entity and thus should behave a bit more responsibly than it does when it backs dictators like Saddam, Musharraf, Pinochet, etc... He acknowledges the need for good intelligence and a strong military, but he doesn't like the Pentagon's complete lack of accountability considering it hasn't balanced its own budget in over a decade and it claimed to have "lost" over $2 trillion.
As for the other agencies such as EPA, CDC and FDA, yeah they pretty much all suck and the facts are easy to find if you care to do a little research. How about you pick the federal agency you like best and let me know, then I'll highlight for you why it does more to fail at its mission than to succeed. Please don't pick the DEA, because that one is just WAY too damn easy.
In short, this man wants to return the country to the productivity it had in the century prior to the establishment of the Federal Reserve and abandonment of the gold standard. That doesn't mean we'll be living on candlelight and salting meats for lack of refrigeration, and women and minorities will still be allowed to vote. Instead, Ron Paul wishes to turn back the clock to the same unprecedented growth that brought this nation from a fledgling colony to THE global leader in the span of less than 200 years. Damn right I want to return to the rate of progress we had back then. - inactive, on 11/21/2007, -2/+17What, like "noChild left behind', and the "Patriot Act"? He voted against both................
- jdaniel284, on 11/21/2007, -2/+16Wow, you think membership to the UN is what defines an "isolationist"? You sir are the type of fool that crafty ambitious politicians LOVE.
- matador3, on 11/22/2007, -1/+15http://www.teaparty07.com
Sign up! - MrFunions, on 11/22/2007, -1/+15I have no doubt that if all of our troops came home and suddenly we were attacked out of nowhere, the American people would rise up so fast and so hard those people who attacked us would wish they were never born. As it stands now our military is spread thin across the globe and they can't recruit anyone into the military anymore. Sending a message that we weren't going to deploy troops for stupid reasons anymore would probably increase military recruitment.
- Selfless, on 12/18/2007, -1/+15"Ron Paul wants to end vital services that are provided by the Federal government."
Just my opinion but:::
Funny how you choose to tie the phrases "vital services" and "Federal government" in one sentence. Last time I checked... my heart, liver, and lungs were 'vital' but not the Federal Government!! Much of the 'services' you have listed aren't effective or efficient in their supposed function. I suppose if you're a firm believe in Karl Marx (i.e., Ten planks ---Communist Manifesto) then go right ahead and keep dreamin'. But as Milton Friedman said, in effect - "It's a great mistake to judge policies and programs by their intentions rather than their results" The illusion you've been made to believe (Big gov is good, and helps all, and makes everything fair for all) is precisely the type of "progress" Ron wishes stop. If there was anything close to a"vital service" for the Fed Gov. its ensuring our freedom...not fairness. Ron would see to it the Fed Gov is contained to that function - m0tbaillie, on 11/21/2007, -1/+15I hate to say this, but pretty soon you'll be able to say that the war has cost over 4,000 American lives, as we're pushing about 3800 and change. =( sad.
- EarlOfLade, on 11/21/2007, -1/+14If you like Ron Paul, you would hate Denmark!
- Stryder81, on 11/21/2007, -6/+19I've said it before and I'll say it again. If this man doesn't win, I'm moving to Denmark.
- kpdude, on 11/21/2007, -2/+15i guess Ron's talk makes sense. If USA needs to get back its stand, it needs to wake up, else it would be in deep ***** and China and India would overtake it soon enough!! Stop worry about other's business, mind your own business!!
- PeppermintPig, on 11/21/2007, -4/+17We're not voting for President of the Planet.
We've been ESTABLISHING these corrupt governments. Much good interventionism has done. But then again I know jack ***** about foreign policy. LOL - faxxy, on 11/21/2007, -8/+20Introduce Ron Paul to those who don't know him with this:
(w/George Carlin)
http://kickapathy.com
without George (who don't like foul language)
http://kickapathy.com/1 - jeffiek, on 11/21/2007, -0/+12Beseech? I can just picture Herk and chico running for a dictionary.
- TruthforAll, on 11/21/2007, -1/+13Yeah, because we've been doing such a wonderful, benevolent job so far... someone has been thoroughly brainwashed.
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