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- raphinaus, on 07/04/2008, -9/+215we're entering a new age of madness. they'll do it, and they'll get away with it, if you Americans don't get off your butts and do something about it.
rights are never granted. they are usurped or defended. - XanderDee, on 07/05/2008, -6/+125My god I never though that any sensible person would want to set off a nuclear bomb on civilian city again. I mean once America uses a nuclear weapon the it will not be undone it will be open season for every nuclear power on the planet, never mind the fallout political and radioactive.
- c0ri, on 07/05/2008, -5/+102I guess people really don't realize the implications of something like this. It doesn't just do initial damage. It continues killing for generations through cancer and other diseases. Come to Japan and talk to people, they will tell you.
- avengingturnip, on 07/05/2008, -6/+92These people are absolutely delusional, functionally insane. What has happened to America?
- Berkana, on 07/05/2008, -4/+83Expect this if we nuke Iran: They would likely blockade the straight of Hormuz, the bottle neck through which Saudi oil tankers must pass to come to the US, and if not, they may just create a massive oil spill at the straight and set it on fire. Perhaps sink a tanker or two. Watch as the price of gas skyrockets. They would likely do this because then oil would become too expensive for us to buy, even for our military. Then we would print more money via the Federal Reserve to try to buy more oil, and OPEC would see that dollars we are paying them are essentially useless money we make up out of nothing, worthless crap that we devalue by printing as much as we want, and the value of the dollar would collapse. That is likely how Iran would fight back.
Expect a war with Iran to spark a war with Russia, and possibly China. Imagine the collapse of the US. Imagine martial law. Imagine the elections being called off. Folks, this is what pre-emptively nuking Iran would bring. - SaraLiberty, on 08/16/2008, -0/+73The government has a history of lying to the American people and the world in order to further it’s ideology regardless of the cost in money, lives and blood. The people aren't buying the propaganda. Terrorism is the way in which governments who all eventually turn bad in the end wrench freedom and rights from the people. Hitler had his own parliament building burned down in order to get his country behind a war and blame it on the 'communists." We are beyond that stage and now the PNAC manifesto neocon chicken-hawk war fetishists are salivating at Iran. They're marketing a hostile corporate takeover (war) applying the same soundbite scripts as they used with Iraq and Afghanistan.
Let's not be saying in 2012 that we were 'fooled' about intel on Iran!
Google: Halliburton sells Iran nuclear technology
or click http://tinyurl.com/6gzplc
Yea, its true. So lets keep paying Halliburton billions of dollars of our money to setup up other countries too so we can destroy them and 'rebuild' for taxpayer funded, no bid cost-plus government contracts. "We have to destroy the village in order to save it."..As if their Iraq profiteering mess isn't bad enough: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chXjCtkymRQ - TheTaoOfBill, on 07/05/2008, -3/+69If we pre-emptively strike any country with a nuke I am getting as far away from any major city I can because I guarantee it will be us who will be hit next. The nuclear countries of the world are not going to let us get away with that ***** and I would fully understand a nuclear country's choice to launch nukes back at us if we decide to pre-emptively launch a nuke.
- sphira, on 07/05/2008, -6/+70Only madmen take a Pacific Paradise like the bikini atoll in the Marshall Islands and blow it up!
the indigenous population was relocated - sounds like an ultimatum was in there somewhere -
"The United States government enrolled some of the Marshallese into a secret medical experiment called Project 4.1. The intent of the project was to study the effects of radiation on human beings."
Oh ok - so we fight a war to depose despots - and casually perform tyrannical acts -
Madmen infest our government - the PEOPLE'S government
They were there then, and they are there now
It is up to us to root them out! -
Paul is our next best chance - momentum through the next four - - SaraLiberty, on 08/16/2008, -2/+56It's not only about oil.
The war fetishists and PNAC schemers now want Iran because Iran's local central bank is not under control of the Federal Reserve.
The corporation of the US (following orders under direction from the Fed banking cartel) is after Iran to get control over their local central bank to integrate into the Federal Reserve system. They want Iran and Syria because they are not under control of the Federal Reserve. Control the currency and the flow of money, control the entire country in the palm of your hand. It's yours to do whatever you please. Oil is secondary. A "fringe benefit" icing on the cake.
The hostile corporate takeover (war) against Iraq, the war against Afghanistan, the war against the Balkans, Bosnia, were all to get the control over the *local central bank* under the Federal Reserve system. This was the real issue. We serfs were sold lies. Control the currency, you dominate the entire country. This was one of the primary reasons for the hostile corporate takeover (war) on Iraq. to get the control over Iraq's local central bank under the Federal Reserve system. The central bank in Iraq is now completely under full control of the Federal Reserve. Not of the corporation of the United States, but of the Federal Reserve monetary system. Mission accomplished. Iraq will now be (ab)used to setup permanent military bases for launching future attacks on other non-conforming countries such as Iran and Syria
Also FYi, Afghanistan, the Balkans, Bosnia, in Serbia, Kosovo, were invaded and bombed just the same - to gain control over the local central bank into the Federal Reserve system. If you study after how the banking system has been affected and changed in those countries after the takeover, you will understand the country was bombed to get control over the local central bank.
These hostile corporate takeovers (wars) are over bringing these countries (so-called "rogue states") under control of the monetary power. Whatever country isn't going along with this, they want to stay independent in their printing of money, they're going to go after them. And use the corporation of the US's military power, weapons, to do it for them.
When a country has control of their own money, they can do what they want. They are FREE. The people that are behind the control of the Federal Reserve System don't want countries that are "free" from their system. Their intentions are of a global rule and one currency. It's economic slavery and a one world currency. They have been breaking and bankrupting third world nations for generations. Now that they are getting the unions, EU, NAU, AU, etc. the truth of their plans is leaking out.
They want Iran and Syria because they are not under control of the Federal Reserve.
That is why they don't like Chavez in Venezuela. Because he has control over the Central bank and of the most important bank in Venezuela.
It's the same thing in North Korea.
Are we starting to see a pattern here yet?
"The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people
from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie.
It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers
to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie,
and thus by extension, the truth becomes the greatest enemy of the state."
~ Dr. Joseph M. Goebbels - Hitler's propaganda minister
"Wherever the standard of freedom and independence has been or shall be unfurled, there will be America's heart, her benedictions and prayers, but she goes not abroad in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well wisher to the freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator of her own." -John Adams
"Every government degenerates when trusted to the rulers of the people alone. The people themselves are its only safe depositories." - Thomas Jefferson
"The liberties of our country, the freedom of our civil Constitution, are worth defending at all hazards.
As long as the people are virtuous they cannot be subdued; but when once they lose their virtue they will be ready to surrender their liberties to the first external or internal invader. If virtue and knowledge are diffused among the people, they will never be enslaved. This will be their great security." --Samuel Adams - gigione, on 07/05/2008, -5/+56We need to vote out every member of congress except for Ron Paul and a few others.
- roho76, on 07/05/2008, -3/+50I just don't understand the rational of stopping a country from getting a nuclear weapon, and using said weapon, by using a nuclear weapon.
Am I ***** retarded or something? - SaraLiberty, on 08/16/2008, -1/+42"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross." --Sinclair Lewis (American Writer, 1885-1951) http://tinyurl.com/56awfu
- tajitj, on 07/05/2008, -4/+43The religious fanatics are trying to full fill Revelations.
- Berkana, on 07/05/2008, -4/+39If we go to war with Iran, I will call the Democrats who refused to impeach and cuss them out and tell them this is as much their fault as it is the fault of the Republicans and Bush.
- Parapadrifter, on 07/05/2008, -7/+40And all because they want to control their oil. Time to develop again what Tesla did from the patents President Hoover took. Pulsating DC current is the key to converting the ZeroPoint Energyfield aka "Dark Matter" into useful energy. 80% of the universe is this Zeropoint Energyfield, it does contain energy, how do we utilize it?
- ArbitraryTask, on 07/05/2008, -3/+33This truly could be the beginning of the end.
- btschul, on 07/05/2008, -3/+33We had a chance to stop this. We could have elected Ron Paul. But, everyone just sort of went along with Obama's ***** generic campaign slogans, and now there is no hope for change. Well, America was fun while it lasted.
- Ransack, on 07/05/2008, -1/+30A pre-emptive nuclear strike on a non-nuclear nation would be considered a heinous war crime. Forget about Iranian blockades, every nation on the planet would blockade the USA.
- lazerus9, on 07/05/2008, -0/+28Have you seen any sign of sensibility?
- roho76, on 07/05/2008, -1/+28Also I will add. If the President and the Members of Congress do decide to go forward with this, I will personally go to Washington and put their heads on a stick. And I am sure I am not alone. You have been warned.
Get ready, people. All hell is about to break loose. - lazerus9, on 07/05/2008, -1/+26My full quote is:
Rights are never granted!...They are either usurped or defended!
Lazerus9
Obviously I agree! - InetRoadkill, on 07/05/2008, -2/+26Israel (thru AIPAC) is pushing with all its might to get the US to obliterate Iran. Unfortunately, there are enough whackjobs in the US who are looking forward to this so they can meet Jeebus in person and enough politicians who are willing to pander to them to make it happen.
You've got 3 nations beholden to religions fanatics playing chicken with each other in the name of God. There is no sensibility or rationality in any of this. Combine this insanity with the lust for control of the middle eastern oil reserves, a nuclear arsenal, and a retarded chimp looking to make a name for himself with nothing to lose, and the stage is set for a major disaster. - btschul, on 07/05/2008, -1/+24To quote George Carlin: "Nobody seems to notice, Nobody seem to care."
- RobotCitizen, on 07/05/2008, -0/+21"Go back to bed America. You are free... to do as we tell you."
Bill Hicks - dawnraid101, on 07/05/2008, -5/+26Iraq's infastructure was completely in disarray for years previous, they had no backbone to support an army, their soldiers were miltia. Iran on the other hand is ***** organized.
- FMWatkins, on 07/05/2008, -0/+21Well put. One more quote I think will fit in well here.
"Give me control of a nation's money, and I care not who makes her laws" - Mayer Rothschild. - TonyLocNE, on 07/05/2008, -0/+21And that's exactly what Scott Ritter, former UN Weapons Inspector, says would happen if we were to ever invade Iran.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=8XQan1qo8T4
I'm not holding out hope for this country. - SaraLiberty, on 08/16/2008, -0/+20FMWatkins: Absolutely. Thank you. + another:
“I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous than standing armies…if the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of currency…the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of their property until their children wake up homeless on the continent that their fathers conquered.” ~Thomas Jefferson, 1743-1826 - inactive, on 07/05/2008, -0/+20"Their intentions are of a global rule and one currency."
For those who doubt:
http://www.singleglobalcurrency.org/
http://www.iht.com/articles/2000/01/31/edpaul.2.t_ ...
http://www.onecountry.org/e104/e10402as.htm
http://www.ecommercetimes.com/story/58347.html?wel ...
http://www.wto.org/english/news_e/sprr_e/ital_e.ht ...
http://www.wto.org/english/news_e/pres98_e/pr113_e ... - Waiting2awake, on 07/05/2008, -1/+21I used to hold the same view - but tell me, why is Afghanistan justified again?
They offered up OBL in exchange for evidence that he was responsible for 911. The US said essentially "We are the US, we don't need no stinking proof!" and the world went along with the US because, they had been relatively on the side of good.
Then came the lies over Iraq
the lies over the WMD
the lies over ties to OBL and Saddam
the Anthrax mailings (What ever happened to that BTW?)
The outing of agents
the torturing
the secret prisons
etc,
etc,
etc,
etc,
etc,
Makes you wonder if Afghanistan was truly justified or maybe they were lying for months before we caught on. Maybe we didn't just catch their first major lie? - Waiting2awake, on 07/05/2008, -1/+21It is almost like there is only one party isn't it?
Makes you think how long it has been going on for doesn't it? - eliot2000, on 07/05/2008, -6/+25Afghanistan was a justified war, Iraq is our Generation's Vietnam.
And if we let it happen, Iran will be our Poland. - lebreezy, on 07/05/2008, -3/+22The stage is set for a ***** up situation for all Americans. This is just another thing that Bush is trying to screw up before he leaves office...I wish McCain or Obama the best of luck when trying to recover all the the Bush administration has damaged. You kind of have to feel sorry for the next guy.
- joe39275, on 07/05/2008, -1/+20If we attacked Iran under an Obama regime, the only good that would come from it is that people would realize both parties are *****.
- Hiltonizer, on 07/06/2008, -2/+20467 diggs and still not front page... looks like congress runs digg now too
- jana67, on 07/05/2008, -1/+18If we survive that long....
- thewebmind, on 07/05/2008, -0/+17What is particularly appalling are the things that no one - not the news media, not the majority of Congress nor the White House - are talking about, including the proposal Iran made to the P5+1 on May 13, in which the Iranians said that they would be willing to consider a plan for a multinational enrichment consortium in Iran with Iranian participation. This plan was first outlined in March not by an Iranian but by a former US Ambassador to the UN, Thomas Pickering. You can watch him make his case here:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=kGZFrFxVg8A
Instead, Congress is proposing harsher sanctions and a naval blockade of Iran, which, under international law, is an act of war. Rep. Paul has spoken out against this bill, as mentioned in this article. You can help stop this resolution from passing by writing to your Representative demanding that they oppose this bill by going here:
http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/involved/hconres3 ... - silentboom, on 07/05/2008, -2/+19When Obama and McCain say "all options are on the table" they mean ALL OPTIONS. They certainly would do it, at least with tactical nukes. Many tactical nukes are almost as devistating as one big one. Iran would be much tougher than Iraq, especially since Russia and China would be angered by us doing it.
- kabes, on 07/06/2008, -1/+17
"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."
-Albert Einstein - liberalnurse, on 07/05/2008, -1/+17No, your the sane one, they're ***** retarded or something
- TopherT, on 07/05/2008, -3/+19Nukes are built NOT to be used, If Iran had nukes this whole scenario would be settled, no one goes to war with a country with nuclear weapons. If we are to have peace between us and Iran, it is nuclear proliferation which offers the only hope. Someone PLEASE give Iran nukes.
- silentboom, on 07/05/2008, -2/+18America has been bought by supernational corporations and the Bush regime has international interests, they don't care one bit about our Constitution. We the people mean nothing, they don't even care about increasing taxes anymore because they can suck the value out of the money in your pocket by inflation. The middle class is the most resistant to globalization so they will be pushed downward until they accept socialism just to survive. If that doesn't work they will go the fascist route and give subsidies to companies like Walmart lobbies who will give you checkups at their clinics and cheap medication, soon to open Walmart hospitals or something like that. It doesn't matter if your tax money goes right into a socialist program or is handed off to a corporation who does the same thing. Either way, you are led to being a child of the government and your choices are heaviliy influenced or removed. That is why we need subsidies minimized along with socialist programs. The choice need to be back in the hands of the large and powerful middle class. We must fight for our way of life with ever passing day.
- Kent4jmj, on 07/05/2008, -5/+20Public Schools
- inactive, on 07/06/2008, -1/+16Don't be an idiot and blame all Americans... I support Ron Paul, I donated quite a bit.. He still has my support as I cannot in good faith vote for anyone else. Don't blame Americans, blame the American media. The media: lies, distorts and puts their agenda ahead of truth. hmmm wait.... OK blame Americans.
- lexynuzum, on 07/05/2008, -1/+16Nuking for peace is like ***** for virginity. Our government is retarded. Do they think we're going to buy this crap? I think it's about time the American public start protesting outside Washington's door---DAILY! We've let this abuse by our government go on too long. They are (not) declaring wars in our name, and smearing the good reputation the founding fathers had intended for us to have. Let's get off our computers and out in the streets!
- FMWatkins, on 07/05/2008, -0/+14You know, such quotes should be part of the school curriculum. A quote and then an explanation. A new one at the end of each day, at the end of the week there's a summary and discussion about them all.
These quotes and their histories are like knives cutting through decades of socialist propaganda.
They are as powerful as they are sobering. History is merely repeating itself, albeit with better technology. - tog2476, on 07/06/2008, -1/+15www.campaignforliberty.com, if you want to stop talking and do something about it, that is the site you need to go to. Ron Paul tried to show us the way, and we shut him out because Obama promised to change the country. Wow, now Obama is going back on everything he said now that he is the Democratic nominee. Imagine that. When are people going to realize that the ones they try to black out of the media, and keep us from seeing are probably the ones we should be listening to. Kill your television, stay away from Fox News, CNN, and ABC, NBC is decent if you must watch t.v. news. They have infiltrated it all. Now all we can do is pray that Ron Paul gets elected from the floor, we are still trying to make that happen. Join in if you wake up. www.campaignforliberty.com is where the real change is happening.
- UKLooney, on 07/05/2008, -0/+14How can America call itself a Christian country? Surely 90% of congress will rot in hell, along with the majority of the population who stand by and do nothing. And I'm afraid it is too late to attempt to try and educate the masses, the Elitist plan is way to far advanced. Come November, there will be no way back...
- db0255, on 07/06/2008, -2/+15I like how even though it has 600 diggs, because it mentions Ron Paul, it's not making the front page. The algorithm is getting smart!!!
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