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- brandonchicago, on 08/29/2008, -10/+174If Pat Buchanan could say this about Obama, you have to wonder how many other people this speech truly affected. I just hope that people get to hear the whole speech and not just the snippets that the MSM puts out to push their own agendas (*cough CNN, *cough Fox News).
- sharpfork, on 08/29/2008, -6/+147Buchanan: "This is the finest convention speech, I've ever heard!" "It wasn't a liberal speech, it was a unifying speech."
If I hadn't watched the video, I'd have thought he was taken out of context or something. He genuinely liked the speech. I agree with Pat Buchanan on something... - Berkana, on 08/29/2008, -5/+122I loved Olbermann's summary:
"There you have it: we had to stop Pat Buchanan gushing over Obama's speech for the sake of time. Perhaps that will tell you the story better than anything we could say."
Nice. ^_^ - Rusticles, on 08/29/2008, -7/+99I'm a republican and I'm voting for Obama
- madjoyish, on 08/29/2008, -6/+64I'm almost tempted to believe he just wants to skew the election by pinning Obama as a centrist, but... no... he actually kind of seems genuine? Amazing. I mean, I agree with him; it was a great, unifying speech... but wow.
- ElatusDeus, on 08/29/2008, -4/+61Maddow's face really exemplifies that moment. She looked as if the world was coming to an end.
- Drifton, on 08/29/2008, -3/+56Haha that is awesome.
I love how Rachael is looking at him like "Who the ***** is this, and where is Pat?" - fhbeano, on 08/29/2008, -14/+60>> I'm going to write in Ron Paul...
Boy, great idea. Even though Ron Paul (as much as I also like him) hasn't got a chance in hell of winning the election, write him in and do your part towards leaving a crack that McCain might squeak through into the White House. It may sound good in your head to write in Paul, but the reality we're stuck with is this: The next president will either be named Obama or McCain. Period. Accept that and decide which one you prefer, and vote that way. Or, throw your vote away with a write-in, but accept the fact that if a candidate gets into office who you don't like, you didn't do anything to stop it. - dinobot, on 08/29/2008, -4/+45... cats & dogs living together, mass hysteria~
- StupotAce, on 08/29/2008, -5/+41Did hell freeze over?
- vroom101, on 08/29/2008, -5/+35Excerpts from United States Senator Barack Obama's magnificent speech "The American Promise" on 8 August 2008, via "Video: Barack Obama at Mile High -- "The American Promise" posted by Sam Graham-Felsen on August 29th, 2008 at 12:42 am EDT at http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/samg ... (my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/samgrahamfelsen/gG5l5C):
Excerpt #1: ". . . But I stand before you tonight because all across America something is stirring. What the nay-sayers don't understand is that this election has never been about me. It's been about you. For eighteen long months, you have stood up, one by one, and said enough to the politics of the past. You understand that in this election, the greatest risk we can take is to try the same old politics with the same old players and expect a different result. You have shown what history teaches us -- that at defining moments like this one, the change we need doesn't come from Washington. Change comes to Washington. Change happens because the American people demand it -- because they rise up and insist on new ideas and new leadership, a new politics for a new time. America, this is one of those moments."
Excerpt #2: ". . . The times are too serious, the stakes are too high for this same partisan playbook. So let us agree that patriotism has no party. I love this country, and so do you, and so does John McCain. The men and women who serve in our battlefields may be Democrats and Republicans and Independents, but they have fought together and bled together and some died together under the same proud flag. They have not served a Red America or a Blue America -- they have served the United States of America. So I've got news for you, John McCain. We all put our country first."
Full video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZCrIeRkMhA - inactive, on 08/30/2008, -1/+30Okay who divided by zero?
- NoireStar, on 08/29/2008, -4/+32Keith summed it up in his usual way ... I loved it, especially after listening to Buchanan discuss the lack of "red meat" and "what Obama needs to do" the day before.
Btw, even Fox News was left speechless for a few seconds!
"THE TIME IS NOW!" - Clusterfrak, on 08/29/2008, -0/+27Preach it brother same here. McCain picked Palin as his VP. Why? becuse he wants the Hillary and evangelical vote. (still trying to wrap my head around hillary and evangelicals) If Mccain wanted a qualified female republican I would have gone for Elizabeth Dole oh wait she's to liberal for the evangelicals. You know during the vice presidential debates biden will chew her up and the right will portray him as a misogynistic tool.
- S5S5S5, on 08/29/2008, -3/+26His speech gave the Chinese Olympics a run for its' money, lol,
80k stadium with more US TV viewers (38 mil) than for the Olympic opening ceremonies. - metapop, on 08/29/2008, -24/+46i've always appreciated pat buchanan, and i think he's right on... now isn't the time for partisan hacking, it's for identifying and supporting truth... i'm going to write in ron paul, but he's right- this was a great speech.
- bubba9999, on 08/30/2008, -1/+22Dugg up for voting your conscience instead of down the party line.
I wish more people did that. - chassach, on 08/30/2008, -1/+21This is the speech in full on video.
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=ato7BtisXzE
Yes, I know some people have ideological problems with Obama. They should, however, listen to Obama's speech to see if they actually do: low taxes, uninterventionist foreign policy etc sound like classic Republican ideas to me and a conciliatory line on social/moral issues (for instance, an attempt to look for common ground on abortion and gay rights that implies that he is not just going to drive a truck over other people's moral stances). He combines that with a clear personal commitment and track record with family values that his opponent's rather unpleasant history of cheating on his wife can't boast.
But, ignoring the ideological divides, sometimes I wonder whether there is any doubt in many non-ideological people's minds about this choice.
If you were appointing to a strategic position in a company that had just lost a lot of money in the last cycle, lost its trading position and failed in its main strategic push and you had two candidates:
1. A 72 year rich old guy and associate of the old CEO. He is of course well past normal people's retirement age. He is from a highly privileged background who had finished at the bottom of his class at military academy. He repeatedly has senior moments and fumbles key facts about the current situation with the company in his interview. His message is essentially that the existing policies of the company are correct but need a 72 year old like him to run them until he is 76 (or 80? I am not being ageist here but, if you are 76, have you not moved on in life from the 9 to 5 or in the President's case 7 to 10? And when you baby boomers were in your 40s and 50s were you not ready for the batton to be passed to younger men and women?)
2. A 47 year old man from a unprivileged background who was top of his class at Harvard and has no ties with the existing failed strategy (indeed spoke out against the key strategic push when it was popular and was launched). He insists at interview that there is a need for change and presents a clear, detailed, practical and unextreme strategy for changing the direction of the company. He presents his ideas at interview in an extremely cogent manner.
If shareholders money were on the line I think I know which candidate would always get the job. - sockpuppets, on 08/29/2008, -3/+23I really like Pat Buchanan. While i disagree with many of his opinions I respect the guy for being intelligent and well spoken about them.
- mochaman, on 08/29/2008, -2/+22 At least Pat Buchanan knows because he was a speech writer himself for Nixon, but I find It amazing that the partisan hacks over at Fox Noise could not bring themselves to recognize a great speech when the hear one. These right winger live such delusional existence, even if you were to hit them with the truth in their faces they would denied it stick their heads in the sand.
- arcangelgabriel, on 08/29/2008, -2/+20Pat Buchanan? I had to run outside after watching to make sure the world wasn't about to swing into the sun...
- WillFight4Beer, on 08/29/2008, -1/+18You make it sound like the neocons have any right to the label "conservatives". Classical conservatives care about small government and low spending, exactly the opposite of the warmongering modern republicans. People need to realize that the democrats are now the party of fiscal responsibility, and that the old labels are ineffective. The only administration with a surplus in recent history was that of Bill Clinton.
- c010rb1indusa, on 08/29/2008, -3/+20It looks like Pat was almost speechless. For someone like him who has been on the right of everything and has been involved with Washington for a long time, for a political speech to throw him off balance and be flabbergasted like that is just amazing. Obama is right, something has been stirring...
Obama
Biden 2008 - 16x9, on 08/29/2008, -2/+19President Bush isn't a conservative in any way, shape or form. No real political conservative would do the things he's done. That's why his support has dwindled to the point where the only people who are still behind him are closet fascists and those too ignorant to know any better.
That's my long winded way of saying that while politically I lean to the left, I'm not one of those who are convinced that true conservatives are foolish or evil. In other words, our current administration doesn't reflect them any more than it does me.
Obama '08 - brandonchicago, on 08/29/2008, -2/+18And here is the full text for anyone who would like to read it.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/08/28/politics ... - FreddieD, on 08/29/2008, -0/+15This time with no lip syncing!
- bagelmaster, on 08/30/2008, -1/+16I'm registered Republican but I dance the line depending on issues. Voting Obama in November though.
- ProKid, on 08/29/2008, -4/+18I'm a registered Democrat and I mainly watch MSNBC. But I do love Pat Buchanan.
- SpinningHead, on 08/29/2008, -1/+14Did you actually listen to the speech? He referred to keeping AKs out of the hands of criminals. Are you a criminal? Incidentally, I am a liberal gun owner.
- krebcycle, on 08/29/2008, -0/+13Pat Buchanan is a social conservative, he is pro-life for example.
He's a bit of an isolationist, and he wants to cut taxes. I don't know how you could call him a liberal. - kephas, on 08/30/2008, -0/+12Republican here as well. This will be the third presidential election I vote in and it'll be the first in which I vote Democrat (you can figure out what that means). Now I see that the country is headed in the wrong direction, and with someone I used to support in the driver's seat. I think it's time for a new driver with different directions and I just don't see that with McCain.
- TheRedNewt, on 08/30/2008, -0/+11@Logrusmage
As opposed to McCain who is going to continue a bloated military budget that we can't afford and continue creating conflicts while promising to lower taxes?
Obama will lower taxes...for everyone except the top 1% - ScottMitchell, on 08/29/2008, -1/+12Ron Paul is a horrible impromptu orator. I like his stance on many issues, but he is absolutely awful at live interviews and in debates. He doesn't do a good job organizing his thoughts and making a statement with a beginning, middle, and end. He jumps around too often, and comes across sounding like that crazy uncle we all have.
Don't get me wrong, he's clearly a bright guy and has some interesting ideas. He's just not very good at communicating them on the spot, IMO. - bluevillage, on 08/29/2008, -2/+12There WILL be a reverse Bradley effect: many people who are voting for Obama who don't want to admit to their redneck neighbors say they're "undecided." Take it from me, Pulse of the Nation.
- mrsteveman1, on 08/30/2008, -1/+11"Buchanan is OLD SCHOOL conservative aka paleoconservative aka reform NOT Bush conservative."
So in other words, he is ACTUALLY A CONSERVATIVE. - acroyear2, on 08/29/2008, -3/+13I think Maddow is so cute.
And I know, I know. She's gay. I'm the male equivalent of a "fag hag". - mephitix, on 08/29/2008, -2/+12I'm confused, if you're writing in Ron Paul are you saying that Obama and McCain are exactly the same in terms of who is more evil or who you do not like more? Going along with fhbeano, if you like one of them a lot less than the other, then wtf is the point of voting for a guy who doesn't have any chance of becoming President? You're essentially voting for your less-liked candidate to become President.
So there is the question I'm asking you -- do you think Obama and McCain are equally non-likable? - BossKey, on 08/30/2008, -0/+9I can understand this. Buchanan was Nixon's speechwriter. If Buchanan was evaluating the speech as a fellow speechwriter, looks like he couldn't help but evaluate it on its professional merits as a speech and not its ideology alone.
I see it as being like when your team plays against a rival sports team whom you're battling intensely, and yet when the rival team executes a brilliant play against you, you say "Damn...that was good," and you mean it. - hiikeeba, on 08/29/2008, -6/+15I'm writing in Ron Paul because I don't like either choice. And I won't vote for someone I don't support.
- swrostmore, on 08/29/2008, -2/+11The second best part of this video is the guy chanting "impeach Bush" in the background right as Buchanan is talking about centrism.
- benroy, on 08/30/2008, -1/+10Sarah Jessica Parker is still unattractive, so....no.
- lolupissed, on 08/29/2008, -3/+11He said he wanted to take AK47s from criminals. Are you a criminal?
- relaxeder, on 04/17/2009, -3/+11I only ask this out of my own curiosity, but what the ***** do you need an AK-47 for.
- inactive, on 08/30/2008, -0/+8People may or may not agree with Pat Buchanan's politics, but above all he's intellectually honest and one of the greatest political thinkers of our time. If someone like an Obama or a Kennedy gives a great speech, Buchanan is going to tell you he did, even if he disagrees with every one of the guy's core policies. If not for his (inexcusable) lapse of judgment regarding his denials of the holocaust years ago, he could have been President. I am happy, however, to see him whenever he is on TV...even if I don't always agree with what he's saying, he is one of the very few commentators that you can be pretty sure actually knows a good amount of what he's talking about.
- akchrs, on 08/29/2008, -0/+7I dugg you down for whining about being dugg down.
- EtherGnat, on 08/30/2008, -0/+7Yes, it's so horrible to have a Presidential candidate people are actually enthused about.
- ROMMExL, on 08/30/2008, -1/+8I'm not a Republican and I'm voting for Obama!
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Yeah, that makes me a Democrat... - inactive, on 08/29/2008, -0/+7Don't cross the streams!
- kingcam, on 08/30/2008, -1/+8This is hilarious. I have always said that the best part of Buchanan is that you know he means what he says, I mean if the guy was willing to write a book, a good one (if flawed) at that, about how Churchill was one of the bad guys then you know he isn't lying about the election.
- bagelmaster, on 08/30/2008, -1/+8Obama is not going to take your damn guns away. There is a political process to go through, and all those people sitting in the House and Senate will not allow them to be taken away. The President is only one person in the Government. People often forget this...
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