What is Digg?Sponsored by Dragon Age: Origins
Can't get enough Dragon Age: Origins? Play the flash game. view!
DragonAgeJourneys.com - Play the free companion flash game to Dragon Age: Origins.
135 Comments
- pintomp3, on 10/12/2007, -21/+149buchanan, that doesn't sound native american.
- EntropyMan, on 10/12/2007, -13/+124Good point. Before Europeans arrived in the Americas, there were zero incidents of university students going on shooting rampages with guns.
I blame Pat Buchanan. - SpaceMonkeyZero, on 10/12/2007, -1/+55He was diagnosed Autistic at the age of 8, and his parents refused to acknowledge it. They pushed him to be "normal" without any sort of support for his problems.
Mental illness is what caused him to do it. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -7/+56People like Pat are just blowhards, nothing he says is important.
Koreans are good citizens and rarely depend on government assistance unlike the white trailor park trash that actually believes Pat. Koreans work hard and are part of the multi-ethnic face that keeps America rolling. - SnuKs, on 10/12/2007, -9/+49How about I blame white people for the Oklahoma bombings? How do you feel about that Buchanan?
- chenyu768, on 10/12/2007, -10/+47wait wait wait, doesn't an Asian going postal and shooting people just confirms that we are now so assimilated into American culture that we got crazy whacked out pychos like columbine too.
- chenyu768, on 10/12/2007, -14/+49WOW Pat, i am just baffled by these comments, the amount of hate and anger this guy has, i wonder if he blames loosing the Presidential nomination on immigrants too.
"Almost no attention has been paid to the fact that Cho Seung-Hui was not an American at all, but an immigrant:"
ummm, every newspaper, printed "Cho Seung-Hui, a south Korean national, with legal us residency". which i thought was odd cuz he's been here since he was 8 which makes him pretty American to me.
and to us immigrants making trouble, umm in California us Asians make more than you white folks, and i don't think Columbine, Kent State, Oklahoma, BTK, Zodiac, Jeffrey Dahumer, John Wayne Gacy, Charles Manson, and on and on and on. - coolian, on 10/12/2007, -16/+42He's a schmuck and a douchebag rolled into one. I guess that makes him a schmuckbag.
- tnee, on 10/12/2007, -9/+24I too blame immigration. What douchebag let in Pat's ancestors?!
- CodeAlchemist, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15Cho's parents live about a mile from my house (Fairfax County, VA). I hope that they and all the other Korean immigrants who have moved to our area always feel welcome and understand that this ass-hat doesn't speak for all Americans.
- merreborn, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13Y'all missed Hal Turner's take on the situation.
Ya see, according to Hal, word got around campus that Cho had a tail. According to Hal, Asians are part lizard.
That crazy racist bastard makes Buchanan look good. - ViperDaimao, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11dunno tenken, all I see here are conservatives disagreeing with Pat, as most conservatives do.
- ezweave, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11The best part about his nonsensical, epithet laced rant... his made up numbers.
The highest percentage of foreign born residents existed between 1880 and 1930 (as high as 13%, now its around 10-11%), not after the Immigration Act of 1965. That data is readily available to all Americans (even an immigrant like me!) from http://www.census.gov/ and other places.
Not to mention that the exact same attitudes were applied to: Irish-Catholic, Polish, Jewish, Hungarian... etc over a hundred years ago. We have a word for it too: "ignorance". - newstart, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12Pat Buchanan you forgot that some of the 32 people killed were also immigrants. And one of them Prof. Loganathan from India who taught environmental engineering at V.Tech for more than 18 year and was so much dedicated that he told his family to bury him in V.Tech campus whenever he dies. And this is the treatment you mete out.... SHAME ON YOU PAT
- douggmc, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10While I don't agree with the characterization of the VT by Buchanan at all ... I don't think the concept of what he is saying is so far out of line ...
When excessivly large numbers of people immigrate in such a short period of time, they tend to not assimilate into our culture as quickly/efficiently. They tend to build little communities and stay among themselves. It is not what America is about. Please know that I'm not saying people should "lose" their ethnicity and native culture ... but it is imperative to a certain degree to be part of our "melting pot" successfully. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -10/+18The reason modern American society hasn't integrated into the Native American culture is because we kicked their asses when we got here.
- SpaceMonkeyZero, on 10/12/2007, -11/+18Buchanan is a ***** *****. Plain and Simple.
He doesn't speak for mainstream republicans or even conservatives. - shirosamurai, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11Remember people, this is the guy who thinks George Bush is too LIBERAL!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8SpenceMasta:
I say bring in the national guard. Use fire hoses, use rubber bullets, use tear gas. These people are mostly illegally in this country, the fact that they're demonstrating like that is infuriating. I think I'm a moderate on this subject, I really feel for the downtrodden trying to make it in our country but when you go out and demonstrate like that it's insulting. I think we should just round these people up and put them in labor camps or something. - popothebright, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10> " Cho was among the 864,000 Koreans here as a result of the Immigration Act of 1965, which threw the nation's doors open to the greatest invasion in history, an invasion opposed by a majority of our people."
I'm pretty sure the majority of Native Americans opposed Pat's people coming here. And the numbers of immigrants (as a percentage of total US population) were far higher during the great waves of Irish, Jewish and Italian immigrants coming at the turn of the last century. It should also be noted that those immigrant groups were some of the hardest working in American history and made this country great.
The history of America is the history of ethnic "invasions" (as Mr. Buchanan would say) -- each of which made America better.
Mr. Buchanan, like most conservatives, would like to pull the ladders up upon achieving a position of comfort. - kittymeow, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10What is "American" heritage ? Each successive wave of immigration (Jews, Irish, Italians, Asians) has transformed America from its white protestant roots to what it is now. Honestly, immigration and its transformation of current American culture is a plus. Otherwise, I'd be bored out of my mind and eating the same bland food every day.
- douggmc, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8or maybe an alternate way to say it is:
We need to better control the rate of immigration so these folks can get the support they need to successfuly integrate into our society. We welcome, want, in fact need these people ... but they can't come to our country and expect it to be a "little italy" in a sense that also has all the benefits of America. They need to assimilate and become Americans. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8^ comment spam.
- angusm, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Buchanan seems to feel the problem is that Cho belonged to a culture that couldn't 'assimilate' in Western society. Given that this kind of rampage killing has become such a distinctive feature of American life recently, it sounds to me as if Cho assimilated just a little too well.
He may have been Korean by birth, but at heart he was as American as Klebold and Harris. - jtb4, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9I think he's a little over the top, but he has a fundamental message that is difficult to ignore, and this causes many to have an uneasy feeling. We can't be protectionist in this world environment, but we need to look at how minorities are becoming majorities in this country, and there is no other way but to embrace change. Just my 2 cents...
- JoshuaGross, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Yeah, because Americans never commit crimes, and have never killed massive amounts of people in the past or in the present....
- wonderworm, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6You are more correct than you know. If you look at muslim immigrants in countries around the world, they otherwise assimilate without problems until they reach about 10-20% of the population. At that point they begin to try to change the parent country into an islamic state with islamic rules of law. And that is also when they become bold and turn to violence.
France and England are having Major problems just as Thailand and Indonesia are and it is simply from too many muslims entering the country and then asserting their religious (insane) beliefs upon that country through violent means. - cywar, on 10/12/2007, -7/+12Go watch this video and then tell us again how Buchanan is so wrong.
The video shows an incident at the recent Amnesty rallies.
See how the American is treated by the police.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/may2007/100507illegalscheer.htm - thinksage, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8From dictionary.com
rac·ism- [rey-siz-uhm]–noun
1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
3. Pat Buchanan - altjeringa, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5My American Heritage is driving me crazy. On the one hand it tells me that because my family has been here since the begining I have more value in this country. On the other hand most of my family has be charletins, theives, loosers, or at best middle class, so perhaps I should migrate to another country because I'm not worthy of living here.
Oh hold on, perhaps you ment "American Heritage" in the Idealistic sense? Well that heratige tells me that any man who does a days work deserves a days pay. It tells me that the value of a man is what he does. It tells me that if an immigrant does better work than "citizen" the immigrant should get the work. My American Heritage is very simple, judge people based on what they do, not who they are. - altjeringa, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8The minorities are becoming majorities? Cute. You fail to understand that the the minorites have been becoming majorities in this country since 1776. The Irish, the Italians, the Polish the Chinese and Japanese, all threats when they began immigrating. Now they are as and in some instances MORE upstanding than the "people who were here first".
This country is founded on a set of ideas including liberty, capitalism, and most importantly individuality. A person whose family has been here for 10 generations has no more right prosperity in this country than the man who just walked accross the border from Mexico. It's what YOU do that earns you place in our society. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Ever hear of a chain gang? If we aren't going to deport them I think we'd be better off rounding up these people and making them pay their debt to society, and why not have them work for a low wage while we're at it? The only "***** moronic" thing about illegal immigrants is that we're not just turning a blind eye to their activities, but we're welcoming them with such open arms that we treat them at hospitals and educate their children. Do you have a better plan on how to deal with illegal immigration?
- altjeringa, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I disagree but you've a good point so I'm digging you up.
America has never been a melting pot. It's a cute illusion but ulimately just an illusion. The metaphor I prefer is tossed salad. You've got your tomatos and your crutons, your lettuce and your onions, they rub off on each other a bit and ultimately it's the medely that makes it good. Ethinic enclaves add to the flavor of American life, the allow for the cultures of other nations to ferment an grow within our borders, and much what comes out of those enclaves makes this nation a better place to live.
The downside of course is that people get to caught up in their enclaves. A great example of this is White Middle America, it like the La Raza movement, has become so engrossed in it's on importance that all it has to offer is a seething mass of hatred. It's strange but I find the people least likely to assimilate into American Society are those of use who have been here the longest. - mandarin, on 10/12/2007, -6/+10no hes racist bigot...period.
- LogicBomB, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5And I thought we ran out of things to blame. Good for him!
- misfit410, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6Even the most hard core right wingers know PB is a nutcase
- mlock2k, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Pat don't scare me as long as no one listens to him.
Pat Buchanan / Bill o'reilly will someday run together for president
Under the fair and balanced campaign. - altjeringa, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I think Pat hits one nail squarely on the head. People are becoming more and more isolated, the sense that the guy sitting next to you in class matters is disappearing. What Pat doesn't get however is that this has very little to do with race or ethinicity, the problem has to do with urbanization. When you are packed densly into a city you see hundreds of people a day, they can't all matter. Many of us in the city are alone, we left our families either in some other country like Texas. The interdependency of people in the city for the sake of efficiency has gone way up, but our interdependecy emotionally has dropped to almost nothing. People don't have support groups unless we band together and build things like the "Texas Cultural Center." But there are those of us who simply aren't joiners and so fall through the cracks whether we're from Texas or Korea or Bangladesh doesn't really mater.
What happened at Virginia Tech was sad but it had nothing to do with immigration or guns. It had to do with estrangement, just as Columbine had to do with estrangement. This guy, and those kids, went through the same thing and because we haven't learned how to weave the fabric of cumminity in our fast paced lives.... it's going to happen again. - ArnoldTPants, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Bush is too liberal. There is nothing conservative about him at all. He is more liberal than Bill Clinton.
- relaxeder, on 04/17/2009, -2/+4I hate that karate chop thing he does with his hands every ***** time he talks.
- davesbrain, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2In a way he's right, immigration in the Americas has brought nothing but problems since the first Europeans set foot on the Caribbean Islands.
- polymorphist, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@rosstizma
You are absolutely on the money! It's imperialism, plain and simple. It's something that only America can practice. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -8/+10@Tenken
Find whatever posts I made where I said that I was anti immigration. What have I said that blames the VT shootings on legal immigration? I have commented on the Virginia Tech story before, and said that if students (or at least the professors) were allowed to carry concealed weapons this massacre would either have never happened or it would've ended much sooner than it did.
This is blogspam, and I've only been taking the 2 seconds to point it out because everything of this nature comes from the left and we are seeing way too much of it. We see Think Progress, Crooks & Liars, Raw Story, Media Matters, etc make it to the front page multiple times a day. We see crappy blogs like this almost daily, and they're always left wing. How many editorials of editorials do we need to see, anyways?
The only political movement other than the Moveon.org wing of the Democratic Party that has any support on Digg is the Libertarian/Alex Jones/Ron Paul crowd, and while I agree with them on some of what they say (by no means all of it) they too are spamming Digg and really should just stop it already. - SpenceMasta, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3white people are losing dominance and influence over the modern world, white people who care are panicking
- Lavarock, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2It had everything to do with schizophrenia, a chemical imbalance inside the mind of the killer. That specific problem went away when he shot himself. It's imprudent to blame society and urbanization and video games and immigration and Youtube and devil rock music and masculinity issues. The man was crazy, plain and simple– not more crazy than past shooters, and the fact that he was physically able to shoot more people does not inflate the issue to a grand scale where we have to start pointing fingers at society. What if a man fired a shot off over a simple domestic dispute, hit a propane tank and killed 34 people? That wouldn't mean society is crumbling. It's just a number, a tragic number, but unrepresentative of any societal ills. If the same circumstances led to Cho attempt the same act, but halfway through he slipped on a puddle and got knocked out, people would not talk about it as much.
It would be less insane to blame the architects of the buildings for not making it easier to get out. - SpaceMonkeyZero, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3He definitely doesn't speak for America.
There's one person to blame first. The shooter. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5/sigh
The native Americans clearly opposed us coming, so we killed them, it's not a difficult concept. We did not emigrate to America, we took it. - diggerphelps, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2That's right.
Put the blame for VA Tech squarely where it belongs: on (MC) Hammer. - Kevin108, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Blog spam!
Pat Buchanan's views, as usual, are somewhat radical but he brings up a striking and valid point. Far too many immigrants - legal and illegal - bring their culture with them and expect it to be honored like their religion. That's why you have to press 1 for English everywhere you call in your own country.
Legal immigrants DO need to assimilate into our country, our culture, and most importantly our language.
Illegal immigrants need to be rounded up and sent home. Criminals are criminals. The numbers are terrifying when yous start calculating what kinds of crimes illegal immigrants commit and what they cost their gracious host (America) and her tax payers (us). - Lavarock, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2VIRGINIA TECH WAS BECAUSE OF ANYTHING YOU WANT IT TO BE
-
Show 51 - 100 of 135 discussions
© Digg Inc. 2009
— Content created and posted by Digg users is